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does anyone know of any? the only one i can think of is that it may prove healthier to your lungs, and of course an injection would prove more useful and efficient than smoking, but if that's the case then we should all just smoke more. right?
i love marijuana!
blastfast
12-15-2005, 01:22 PM
Injecting marijuana is a stupid idea, why would anyone do that? Just get a vapouriser if you don't wanna smoke it.
I can think of a significant disadvantage with that...the disadvantage being looking like a smackhead just for wanting a toke.
Injecting marijuana is a stupid idea, why would anyone do that? Just get a vapouriser if you don't wanna smoke it.
I can think of a significant disadvantage with that...the disadvantage being looking like a smackhead just for wanting a toke.i'll set aside my first words that were going to be shared with you...
actually...the doctors responsible for bringing us up-to-date with marijuana discoveries in health, inject the cannabinoid THC directly into the specimens. you didn't think they just smoked them out...did you?
blastfast
12-15-2005, 01:41 PM
Sorry, i'm a little tired. I was thinking in terms of plant matter, not the pure cannabinoid. I'm thankfully not that stupid :)
Sorry, i'm a little tired. I was thinking in terms of plant matter, not the pure cannabinoid. I'm thankfully not that stupid :) thankfully i'm not that stupid, either. i knew europeans were more clever than that.
beachguy in thongs
12-15-2005, 07:32 PM
There's that spray there coming out with. I guess it's been developed.
Fortunately, they say the best way for you to obtain all of Pot's medicinal qualities is to smoke it.
beachguy in thongs
12-15-2005, 07:34 PM
you didn't think they just smoked them out...did you?
There's a picture in The Medical Journal Number 4 of a rat, sitting in it's cage, passing a joint with Dr. Neemoyhowser.
Harvesthetic
12-15-2005, 07:40 PM
There's a picture in The Medical Journal Number 4 of a rat, sitting in it's cage, passing a joint with Dr. Neemoyhowser.
lmao scientifical satire is subtle but great :D
yeah ganj, the injection of thc could be less harmful, but i fear the negative connotation of ganja will certainly not be diminished by proposing that right now. maybe wait until a further stage of debate to offer that. certainly the asthmatic and lungpatients in general could be helped by this. ironically enough cannabinoids cĂ*n resolve lung problems.
peace, thx for interesting post
Harvesthetic
12-15-2005, 07:41 PM
*takes a huge toke though* :D
beachguy in thongs
12-15-2005, 07:48 PM
*takes a huge toke though* :D
*puts out cigarette after seeing that post*
Nochowderforyou
12-15-2005, 08:24 PM
Injecting marijuana is something I wouldn't do. For one, how fun is it to feel a prick in your arm and carefully slide a needle into one of your main veins? Doesn't sound like much fun to me. Anything that would be injected would have to be synthezized THC, not actual THC cabbanoids from a plant...I think anyways.
And yes, there is a new medical spray out there called "Sativex" Here is their site:
www.sativex.com
Although, from reading about synthetic THC, it is found not to be as effective as actually smoking the real deal.
chris420
12-15-2005, 10:06 PM
There is marinol which has been on the market for a while and was used for medicinal purposes ( I'm not sure if marinol is still on the market ) to treat hospital patients that qualified for this treatment. Marinol is a synthetic composition of the THC molecule and is considered legal only because it is made in a tax paying laboratory. The ironies of life...
beachguy in thongs
12-16-2005, 12:29 AM
In short, the smoking of crude marijuana is more efficient in delivering THC and, in some cases, it may be more effective.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_myth3.shtml
thanks for the input. lol...dr. neemoyhowser...your nuts, beachguy. thanks for the laughs.
blastfast
12-16-2005, 12:34 AM
Smoking joints is amazingly good for tasting the weed/hash but unfortunately, is possibly the least efficient way of consuming it. Whilst you are passing/holding/between tokes, smoke is pouring out of your joint and essentially bud is going to waste. I know this sounds nitpicky, ingesting or smoking with a bong/vapouriser is sooo much more efficient, just less social and less cliched.
fikusroot
12-16-2005, 12:38 AM
Yes, instead of breathing in smoke through your lungs lets push needles in our arms and inject it directly into the blood stream. That sounds so much safer.
blastfast
12-16-2005, 12:45 AM
From a "not getting cancer" p.o.v. it probably is....
Oneironaut
12-16-2005, 12:48 AM
What about eating it? I suspect that if there are any advantages to injecting it over smoking it, they would be pretty much the same advantages offered by just eating it.
beachguy in thongs
12-16-2005, 12:50 AM
Smoking joints is amazingly good for tasting the weed/hash but unfortunately, is possibly the least efficient way of consuming it. Whilst you are passing/holding/between tokes, smoke is pouring out of your joint and essentially bud is going to waste. I know this sounds nitpicky, ingesting or smoking with a bong/vapouriser is sooo much more efficient, just less social and less cliched.
You are so horribly wrong with this statement that I'm not gonna even bother to prove it.
Okay, here ya go.
THC and other cannabinoids dissolve readily in fat but not in water. This limits the possible formulations of cannabis and cannabinoid preparations, and slows down their absorption from the gut. On the other hand, when cannabis is smoked (in a "joint" or "reefer", or in a pipe), THC is absorbed very quickly into the bloodstream, through the large surface area of the pharynx and the lungs. After smoking, the psychoactive effects of THC are perceptible within seconds, and peak effects are achieved within minutes. When cannabis or cannabinoids are taken by mouth, peak effects may not occur for several hours, but they last longer. After smoking or oral ingestion, the drug persists in the brain longer than in the blood; so the psychological effects persist for some time after the level of THC in the blood has begun to decline.
3.4 Smoking delivers 30 per cent or more of the total THC in a cannabis cigarette to the blood stream. The proportion of THC absorbed after taking cannabis by mouth is 2-3 times less, because after absorption in the gut the drug is largely degraded by metabolism in the liver before it reaches the general circulation. Preliminary reports indicate that absorption into the circulation can be increased if THC is administered by rectal suppository, as this route delivers the drug directly into the circulation, avoiding the liver.
mrdevious
12-16-2005, 12:51 AM
What about eating it? I suspect that if there are any advantages to injecting it over smoking it, they would be pretty much the same advantages offered by just eating it.
yeah, but you have to cook it in with food to eat it (eating it strait won't work for the most part), eating can have a delayed and unpredictable reaction (like getting high in 20 minutes or the next morning), and you have to use up a LOT more to get the same effect.
Nullific
12-16-2005, 12:52 AM
It is possible if done properly. That would mean a very high purity extract which would have to be made into an aqueous solution with hydroxypropyl-beta-cyclodextrin and hydroxypropylmethylcellulose, otherwise it isn't water soluble and unsuitable for injection.
Oneironaut
12-16-2005, 01:02 AM
yeah, but you have to cook it in with food to eat it (eating it strait won't work for the most part), eating can have a delayed and unpredictable reaction (like getting high in 20 minutes or the next morning), and you have to use up a LOT more to get the same effect.
Really? I haven't ever eaten it myself, but I've heard some people who say it's stronger when you eat it than when you smoke it.
In any case, I'd be willing to deal with those disadvantages if it means I didn't have to stick a needle in my arm. I hate needles.
the reason i ask is because every time i read a document on revolutionary health discoveries from marijuana, the scientist always adds, "we don't know if the same results would occur from smoking cannabis". they cut straight to the chase and inject marijuana straight into the brain of the specimen. maybe they should start smoking out the rats.
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