Need a supply list...

[Bmoreblasted]

Hello all,

I am contemplating starting a small 1 plant grow in my closet... I have read Rosenthalls book but would like some practle advice.

Couple of questions:

a. Does anyone have a beginning supply list including some sort of caseing?
b. What is the smallest size enclosure that can be used?
c. The best high grade strain?
d. Can a complete 'kit' be purcheased?

Thanks a million!

[Chrisg420]

one plant man, id advise u use CFL's for lights. thats for sure.

[Bmoreblasted]

I had thought 250-400 hps...what/why CFL?

[Chrisg420]

few reasons, temp issues, burning issues, ur only growing one plant, i would think a few CFL's also cuz of less electricity, stuff like that.

[BkSkillz]

bmore if ur seriously contemplating growing one plant and using a hps my best advice would be to stop what your doing start reading as much as u can and abandone any attempts to continue untill u pace yourself and get in the know...try reposting ur ideas once uve gathered enough information to begin...in otherwords do your own homework!

[Joel]

Uh.. He did say he read a book?


Got no skill boy.

[Bmoreblasted]

Far enough... I have done a multiplant grow in a large room some years ago... but I can't find any literature on single plant small space grow...

Not trying to be lazy.. i kind of thought this was a way to "do my homework"

If my questions are not appropriate, than my apologies...

[super420]

I've read Ed's book many times. Still do. Even though I had the indoor/greenhouse edition, I found it helpful in my outdoor endeavors as well. Your grow sounds like the novel grow section, no? It's a great resource. This site, and others, i.e. http://www.overgrow.com http://www.icmag.com are also good sites to research too. Here's a short list:

Good seeds - quality genetics are key, in this case maybe feminsed, if you do not have a dedicated veg and flower chamber to determine sex.
250W HPS ballast
2 bulbs for the ballast. MH conversion for veg, HPS for flower.
Good soil mix - I make my own compost and mix it with Fox Farm's Light Warrior (plenty of perlite already in it!) with active mycor to help break down the nutes in the soil need for good plant growth.
Quality nutes - I prefer organic guanos high in N for veg, and others high in P for flower. I also prefer to add SuperThrive with my water to help things along.
Mylar - Cover everything in the closet. Mylar will reflect back 98% of the light that hits it. This will help that little 250W power the plant up more.
3 gallon pot.
RO water - and a lot of it!
Fan.
Ozone Generator.
Power strip.
Timers - controling lighting and the amount of ozone will be a must! You need to regulate light during veg and flower, 18/6 for veg, 12/12 for flower. Calculate volume of the closet and run the ozone generator at a minimum to kill odor and mold only, as too much ozone can harm a healthy plant.
Paper towels - You'll need em to germ your seeds.

Last, but not least, patience and a lot of love. This is a start. I am sure others will chime in with more, but this will get you going, and honestly be the barest minimum you need to start. Good luck!

[mightymarijuanabuds]

its all based on your own preference

any old bagseed WILL produce kind bud if grown properly... all genetics are differnt, some better than others, but always remember that any seed will produce good bud

for just one plant you could get away with as low power of hps as you wanted ...150w or even a 70w... or you could run fluoros.. it depends on what your wantin to build ... if you want it to be as small as possible then fluoros are the way to go, but you will get more bud with an hps, still great quality bud has been grown under fluoros.. you gotta research it yourself and make a choice based on whats best for you.. screw everyone else :D

you can also use a more powerful air mover and a homebuilt active carbon filter to control odor if you dont want to risk o3 damage

[super420]

you can also use a more powerful air mover and a homebuilt active carbon filter to control odor if you dont want to risk o3 damage


Thought about the scrubber in my own room, but venting, space, and architechture is a bit of a problem, and O3 corrected it. Not to threadjack, but I just picked up a second O3 generator that has an intake and export vent, uvonair brand. Anyone tried an inline fan, a scrubber and vented it into a chamber to be picked up by the ozone gen, or even directly into an O3 gen??? Just curious.

[Bmoreblasted]

Thanks for the relies...I think I am ok on the actual grow tactics (although once started I am sure I will have questions), my initial questions are more geared toward small space growing and strands that will provide maximum yield in a confined area...again i have grown, but only in a large room.. I am looking now to do a single plant in a small box. I have read through the Overgrow site several times, but i can't find answers to the questions I have anywhere..not trying to be a pest, just be preparred.
Here are the questions I still have:
a. Does anyone have a beginning supply list including some sort of caseing (specifically for a small 1 plant grown in confined space)
b. What is the smallest size enclosure that can be used?
c. The best high grade strain for optimal yield in confined area
d. Can a complete 'kit' be purchased (consisting of case/box, vent system if needed on such a small grow, appropriate lighting(with temp contr in mind) for sucha small area)?

Perhaps someone has attempted such a small grow (I know mostly here we all have dreams of mega fields w/ thousands of clones) but I would like something small for personal...with the right quality maybe a harvest every 3 months of 2 oz or so? Is that possible? If so again, what s the most compact area that can be used?

Thanks for you rpatients w/ a NOOB :-)

[BkSkillz]

my appologies about earlier bmore was haven a pretty shitty day earlier best of luck

[Bmoreblasted]

Not a problem man...been having some shitty days myself, and now it looks like I will be forced to do a small grow...I feel your pain....no hard feelings here!

[mightymarijuanabuds]

a good base for a supple list was already posted .. .but here ya go for your other ?'s

a. Does anyone have a beginning supply list including some sort of caseing (specifically for a small 1 plant grown in confined space)

a specific casing for a single plant is gonna be hard to come by.. the ones that are on the market are INSANELY overpriced... you could build a better one yourself, even if you paid yourself $50/hr for the couple hours you would spend building it + parts would still be alot cheaper than buying one... and better too, since most prefab units kinda suck

b. What is the smallest size enclosure that can be used?

basically as small as you want (within reason) my main growbox is 4ft tall x 3 square feet, but i have grown all fluoro in a 1 square foot box (that i built out of a few pieces of 1x12 that the hardware store will cut for free.. all i did was screw it together, put a lock on the door, and drill a couple holes to attach my vent fans and lighting) with great results, so its up to you

c. The best high grade strain for optimal yield in confined area

lowryder. alot of people bitch about lowryder being 'low potency', but i have seen a lowryder grow FOR SEED that still produced some very nice smoke that got us pretty baked from the little bit of bud there was on it... and i have heard lots of good things about the smoke of lowryder from other growers... all the naysayin is just pot snob bickerin if ya ask me.... however if you wanna listen to it you can get a lowryder cross.. theres plenty out there... or just any full indica strain will stay at or under 3ft... remember you control when flowering starts so you pretty much can control how big the plant will end up getting regardless of what strain you have, *for the most part*

d. Can a complete 'kit' be purchased (consisting of case/box, vent system if needed on such a small grow, appropriate lighting(with temp contr in mind) for sucha small area)?

nope... what do you mean appropriate lighting.. if you have an indoor enclosure then you NEED lighting in there for growth to occur... also ventilation is a must, the plants gotta breath too.. but the only way you could buy a 'kit' being a self contained grow unit all pre built and everything is a huge waste of $$... your looking at thousands on something that has a couple hundred in parts total... and they arent that good of a product to begin with... build your own and save yourself some $$

[Bmoreblasted]

Mighty..thanks man....so a 2'x2' is doable..full indica.. I wasn't questioning weather lighting was needed, but rather stepping down from my previouse 600hps/600mh to a single plant grow do I need to go MH/HPS...or can I expect 2-3 oz yield from a 2' enclosure with CFL or Fluros...and as far as temp..Circ fans of course, but will that keep me 76-78 degrees in such a small enclosure...?

Also potting...previosely I used 5gl buckets (with 5-6' plants), can I assume the ratio will be the same so for a 1 1/2' - 2' plant I need 1-2gl containers?

Nutes/CO2...I used to water w/ carbonated water, and hit the with nutes once a week during veg into flowering (usually 1-2 weeks into flowering)...but with much smaller plant...are CO2 and nutes overkill?

What is the earliest anyone has swithced to flower and had a successful yield?

Also, carbon filter...Mylar..overkill?

Thanks

[mightymarijuanabuds]

i have germinated seeds under 12/12 but they only yield 3-7 grams.. yield is very difficult if not impossible to guess

i dont think that a 4sq.ft space will yield 2-3 oz with cfl/fluoros

that is correct.. 1gal per foot of hieght

circ fans arent good enough, the plant needs fresh air so you need intake and exhaust on your cabinet... mylar is always a good idea for walls no matter what your setu looks like

nutes you need on any size grow.. .co2 you do not need.. and for such a small grow i think its overkill

even one plant will get stinky.. so a carbon filter or o3 generator is a must

i dunno what you mean carbonated water?? dont feed that to your plant... the roots need o2, the plant above the ground needs co2... proper ventilation / air exchange will provide enough co2 easily... and if you want to give the roots a boost, bury an airstone at the bottom of your pot to increase o2 to the roots

[super420]

.. .co2 you do not need.. and for such a small grow i think its overkill

even one plant will get stinky.. so a carbon filter or o3 generator is a must

i dunno what you mean carbonated water?? dont feed that to your plant... the roots need o2, the plant above the ground needs co2... proper ventilation / air exchange will provide enough co2 easily... and if you want to give the roots a boost, bury an airstone at the bottom of your pot to increase o2 to the roots

I don't think the plants are actually watered with the stuff. I have used the charged water method, and it is ok. I have misted plants with it to add a little CO2 before the lights came on. Not a bad way to add a little humidity, and CO2 in one shot.