View Full Version : those of you who will not give your lives for freedom: DIE
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:03 AM
I AM FUCKING SERIOUS HERE!!!
if you people DO NOT care about freedom, if you do not care about our government constantly succeding in taking away our freedoms, if you do not believe in being self sufficient, and stop relying on the government, DIE.
those of you who want to continue to rely on big corperations for materialistic things you want, DIE.
i am SICK and FUCKING tired of hearing about how some stoner got sentenced to life for selling a nug to his kid neighbor!
i am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED! why do we have to treat free will with prejudicy?!? why is it wrong for a person to smoke some crack, take LSD, or get stoned?!? why do you have to make preemptive strikes against people for the fear that they might break a law under the influence?!?
the only logical solution is to give harsher sentences to those under the influence, fuck the substance, they CHOSE to take it, they can SUFFER the consequences of their own ACTIONS thereafter, but if they dont act, they get high as fuck on crack, and dont DO anything, WHAT DID THEY GET ARRESTED FOR?!?
we MUST do anything and EVERYTHING we can to fight back! we cant just let the feds walk all over us anymore!!!
why do you not care about freedom?!?
why are you not protecting your rights?!?
im not going to go down a one man army and look like a derranged lunatic!!! :mad:
no... no, you know what? fuck it, i dont need anyone's help in organizing a successful revolution, i'll just hitch a ride to DC and assassanate the president with a pistol[/sarcasm]
Trichome Creator
12-12-2005, 03:04 AM
Fucking Right. Read my fucking Sig!!!!!
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:06 AM
We are reaching the end of an era, your revolution will soon come. Have faith.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:07 AM
Inform people, spread a pure message derived from a stable base of arguments, time will be on your side. And mankind. Eventually.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:08 AM
>< it's not coming soon enough, and by the time it DOES come, they'll have ammassed so much money, they'll BUY the terrorists they created for support!
you dont HONNESTLY think we're being attacked by terrorists do you?!?
you think the pocket media is being truthful? well... they might think they are, but i can assure, the only threat to the united states right now, and tomorrow, and next elections, is the US government.
copyright laws + corperation = Monarchy...
actually, all it takes is copyright laws, and you have become a corperation, if you can OWN something FREE, like the DEA has a copyright on hemp, you can make ANY law to protect your investment.
MONARCHY!
Trichome Creator
12-12-2005, 03:11 AM
You have to let all the ones who ruined this country die first. The baby boomers.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:11 AM
my dear friend i was as outraged as you, but when you steadily clarify your vision and build up on 'ethical' ammo, you see that further violence or one-sided force is utterly futile.
and yes, they are lying to us, worst thing is that they're doing it for the world to see.
it's the pattern of lies that isn't clear to us yet.
but Bush is starting to lose his grip, voices emerge from the masses and people start seeing bits and pieces of that pattern.
again, only time will tell. in the mean time, try to help your fellow man for he needs it
peace
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:11 AM
i did, they arent helping, they helpped ruin it, they deserve to die too, they werent putting forth their lives to protect freedom.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:13 AM
and, don't forget to smile :)
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:14 AM
ow wait, shadow wolf, you really can't blame the masses man, that's not right. those who are willing to give up rights to attain liberty, do not deserve that liberty. even if that right is to not belong to an angry mob trying to overthrow society.
it will be a hard, arduous turnaround for all of us, just like current times treat us rough too. (and in first place all those people who are dying from lack of food.)
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:14 AM
my dear friend i was as outraged as you, but when you steadily clarify your vision and build up on 'ethical' ammo, you see that further violence or one-sided force is utterly futile.
and yes, they are lying to us, worst thing is that they're doing it for the world to see.
it's the pattern of lies that isn't clear to us yet.
but Bush is starting to lose his grip, voices emerge from the masses and people start seeing bits and pieces of that pattern.
again, only time will tell. in the mean time, try to help your fellow man for he needs it
peace
this has been going on for a century now!
this has been 100 long years of underhandedness in the government! the bush regime is only the newest installment of an age old underground attack on freedom!!!
next elections are the next installment! the underground owns the government, and they are buying off every official, and kicking out the "potentially dangerous" ones.
and i dont intend to go fighting, we will not fire the first shot, but if it comes right down to it, we must fire the last.
they will kill me before i am imprisoned, they will kill me before i allow them to take my freedom, and i will fight them with the intent to die if they try.
and i hope to HEVEN AND HELL that YOU ALL WILL TOO.
it's the only way to make anyone see that they are attackign peaceful freedom.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:16 AM
ow wait, shadow wolf, you really can't blame the masses man, that's not right. those who are willing to give up rights to attain liberty, do not deserve that liberty. even if that right is to not belong to an angry mob trying to overthrow society.
it will be a hard, arduous turnaround for all of us, just like current times treat us rough too. (and in first place all those people who are dying from lack of food.)i cant blame them for the losses of freedom, but i CAN AND WILL blame them for not fighting for their rights to thereof.
Trichome Creator
12-12-2005, 03:16 AM
What a combination we have in office.
Dick & Bush.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:17 AM
It took the Egyptian Slaves 2000 goddamned years to resolve their oppression. 100 years of luxury problems is bullshit.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:18 AM
It took the Egyptian Slaves 2000 goddamned years to resolve their oppression. 100 years of luxury problems is bullshit.the difference, however, is in populace density.
2000 years over 5000 people, as compaired to 100 years over 1 billion people.
i think WE balance out the timespan...
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:19 AM
i cant blame them for the losses of freedom, but i CAN AND WILL blame them for not fighting for their rights to thereof.
interesting. that question will certainly be asked when the shit hits the fan. there are precedents though. Check the Nuerenberg files!!!
Trichome Creator
12-12-2005, 03:19 AM
i cant blame them for the losses of freedom, but i CAN AND WILL blame them for not fighting for their rights to thereof.
You have to keep in mind that children and the eldery cannot fight.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:21 AM
the difference, however, is in populace density.
2000 years over 5000 people, as compaired to 100 years over 1 billion people.
i think WE balance out the timespan...
Again point very well taken. The timewave Zero theory by McKenna suggests that populace density speeds up social evolution by each unit that it passes.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:27 AM
okay, im all calmed down now, no one needs to die... well... i'll think about that...
but anyways, we seriousely need to get organized.
this MUST be a MASSIVE protest if we wish to get ANY results.
the primary theme, so as to provoke the opposition, is the freedom and right to persue happyness.
this means we need nudists. we need stoners. we need all the illegal happynesses, and people who like them.
and we need to go straight to DC, together, nude stoned and having a blast.
and when they try to arrest us, we will fight for suicide over imprisonment.
we cannot live without our rights, so we must die trying to get them.
and once again, those who dont want to give your life for freedom, you deserve to die.
no no, we'll ship you off to iraq.
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 03:28 AM
why should I give my life for something that's supposed to be free?
Freedom isn't supposed to cost anything.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:36 AM
why should I give my life for something that's supposed to be free?
Freedom isn't supposed to cost anything.
freedom isn't free, no there's a hefty fucking fee.
@Stoner, just get out there, like i do, help every person you see in need, in essence, you ARE creating their world. You are fighting the SAME battle, marching to DC is not the way to go. That will be kept for the victory march.
And do not kill anyone.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:37 AM
And fuck yes a massive shoutout, or peaceful non-risk activity should be planned. Don't provoke though, a lot of people are still indoctrinated by the Big Guns.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:37 AM
why should I give my life for something that's supposed to be free?
Freedom isn't supposed to cost anything.
you're right freedom SHOULD be free, but so long as there are oppressors, it never will be.
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 03:37 AM
(edit) oh, nevermind.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:39 AM
You NEVER have the right to kill, hurt or destroy. But hey, that's my fucking naieve way of looking at shit. Shoot me for it.
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 03:40 AM
dayumn, this thread is going at light speed.
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 03:41 AM
but yeah, let's organize something.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:46 AM
Goddamned i have such a hard time soothing people in both camps.
"These fucking hippie stoners bastard ruining society goddamn junkies"
And i'm there SHITTING to him "No, calm down, understand, no need to hurt anyone"
and then the angry stoners in the other corner
"Goddamned these government fucks taking away our liberties"
And i'm there going "No, calm down, violence leads to hatred, an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind"
But you know what? It IS going to lead to an all-out fucking monster of an erradication nuke-bombing fucking hell-situation. And then we face our own ravage.
"Affirmative Action"
fucking fundamentalist narrow-minded retarded disrespectful stupid shits avoiding the solution "by all means necessary"
:mad: there ya have it, the little bitch peacelover is mad
look for the GODDAMN logic
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 03:50 AM
the way I see it, it's impossible to try to make both sides happy.
For both sides to be happy, there needs to be a balance.
There can't be a balance when they both have very polar views.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:53 AM
that's exactly what i'm talking about, if you can't strive for balance, you're fucked either way. and no the chaos of the universe does make us a chaotic society per se.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 03:58 AM
i dotn want to fight, not at all, i want to die.
i want them to kill me for being free.
that is the protest.
i will fight back when they try to imprison me, but i will fight with the goal of dying, i wont hurt them much, just enough to stay free untill they kill me.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 03:59 AM
So what you're basically saying is you are bulletmeat?
I would not clog their rifles, i would fight the manufacterer in court, then motion a gun-ban.
and please dude, don't be negative in such a dark way. you seem to be a smart guy, so the world needs you. you may feel useless up until the moment your task reveals itself to you. if not, there is 1 task that will always remain, preserve yourself, preserve your surroundings.
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 03:59 AM
enough talk-let's organize something.
I've seen these discussions hundreds of times and nothing ever gets done.
Let's make this website part of history.
Let's organize.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 04:01 AM
i sent an e mail to NORML ranting... see if they cant help us.
im willing to go the distance, are you?
i have no money, and no means of supporting myself, but i dont need that to fight. i just need a ride :D
trapped in a dream
12-12-2005, 04:02 AM
Let's start a revolution
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 04:02 AM
i sent an e mail to NORML ranting... see if they cant help us.
im willing to go the distance, are you?
i have no money, and no means of supporting myself, but i dont need that to fight. i just need a ride :D
lol, same here.
I'm thinking about emailing michael moore, to see what he has to say about the legalization movement in general.
(Edit) I think I'll write it tonight, in fact.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:03 AM
i emailed him a couple of times, and a member of his staff complimented us on our website we have in belgium.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 04:04 AM
hell yeah, let's get all the celebs in on it too, robin williams, willie nelson, drew carey, woody harrelson (did i spell that right? :D), Tommy chong and so on...
well... chong might be old and ready to quit the fight :(
but i hope there's still fire im that guy too :D
give me e mails i'll send stuff out :)
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:05 AM
www.blokwatch.be by the way, for the belgians :p
it's a site opposing a political party in our country called "Vlaams Belang" translation: Flemish Front. it's a rightwinged bitch of a party compiled of ex-collaborating sons of bitches.
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 04:05 AM
great, if more people email him, I'm sure we could draw his attention.
And with his attention, we've got the media's attention.
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 04:06 AM
hell yeah, let's get all the celebs in on it too, robin williams, willie nelson, drew carey, woody harrelson (did i spell that right? :D), Tommy chong and so on...
well... chong might be old and ready to quit the fight :(
but i hope there's still fire im that guy too :D
give me e mails i'll send stuff out :)
sounds great, I'll be on it tonight.
lemonboy
12-12-2005, 04:08 AM
i will fight back when they try to imprison me, but i will fight with the goal of dying, i wont hurt them much, just enough to stay free untill they kill me.That's called suicide by cop. It's pretty common actually and they take what measures they can to prevent it... especially if you're going to go around advertising.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:10 AM
....and it's plain stupidity.
btw nice sig lemonboy
Stoner Shadow Wolf, do not think you have to die. You have to fight. By
dieing you are only showing the world that you lost. If you are on the news
they will call you a crazy terrorist who hates america. When instead if im guessing right you actually are fighting for america and for freedom and you hate what the corporations and government have done by lying to us for the past 80+ years.
Be patient.
When the civil war starts, you can bet that you and me will be on the same side. :thumbsup:
RastaKaze
12-12-2005, 04:25 AM
>< it's not coming soon enough, and by the time it DOES come, they'll have ammassed so much money, they'll BUY the terrorists they created for support!
you dont HONNESTLY think we're being attacked by terrorists do you?!?
you think the pocket media is being truthful? well... they might think they are, but i can assure, the only threat to the united states right now, and tomorrow, and next elections, is the US government.
copyright laws + corperation = Monarchy...
actually, all it takes is copyright laws, and you have become a corperation, if you can OWN something FREE, like the DEA has a copyright on hemp, you can make ANY law to protect your investment.
MONARCHY!
dont worry about it bush totally fucked it for this country. well ok we were fucked before that lol, but seriously I don't think america is far away from losing a shitload of power... china is gonna be the ruler of the new world dude, im telling you..
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 04:25 AM
That's called suicide by cop. It's pretty common actually and they take what measures they can to prevent it... especially if you're going to go around advertising.i know, and i intend to live long enough to make my point, make it widely known.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:30 AM
lol RastaKaze de nederlandstaligen zullen de leiders van de nieuwe wereld zijn ;) de rest hoeft dat niet te verstaan :D
Be patient.
When the civil war starts, you can bet that you and me will be on the same side.
I couldn't put it any better. Nice :D
We're even gonna win by numbers i think. If the government corruptions unveils, people will rise up!!
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 04:31 AM
Stoner Shadow Wolf, do not think you have to die. You have to fight. By
dieing you are only showing the world that you lost. If you are on the news
they will call you a crazy terrorist who hates america. When instead if im guessing right you actually are fighting for america and for freedom and you hate what the corporations and government have done by lying to us for the past 80+ years.
Be patient.
When the civil war starts, you can bet that you and me will be on the same side. :thumbsup:
paitent, right, as if 2 1/2 generations of paitence isnt enough?
and to fight for freedom is righteous, but will only add to the negativity, you have to make people see for themselves what is really going on, and fighting back is only going to garner more negative respect.
besides, if i can get this on live television, it doesnt really matter, everyone will see for themselves what happens.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:34 AM
and to fight for freedom is righteous, but will only add to the negativity, you have to make people see for themselves what is really going on, and fighting back is only going to garner more negative respect.
besides, if i can get this on live television, it doesnt really matter, everyone will see for themselves what happens.
Ha i love it when people acknowledge reality.. Nice conclusion to your own question man. This thread had sense.
RastaKaze
12-12-2005, 04:34 AM
lol RastaKaze de nederlandstaligen zullen de leiders van de nieuwe wereld zijn ;) de rest hoeft dat niet te verstaan :D
I can't understand that.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:35 AM
even though it doesn't provide you with a bite-size solution,
but hey, c'est la vie...
smoke a joint or two ;) i'll spark up in your name.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:36 AM
lol RastaKaze, thought you were dutch... my bad! i said the dutchies would be the new leaders of the free world :p
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 04:42 AM
no no, by the time OUR revolution starts, AUSTRALIA will be what america started out as, and then while we're initiating world war III (minus australia), they'll be toking it up in tribute to their own freedom! :D
then the whole world gets nuked, california braks off of the continent, and australia's all "like dubya tee eff mates?"
http://funnyjunk.com/pages/world.htm/
:D
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:45 AM
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah i LOVE that movie :D:D funny you thought of that too :D real funny
MIRROR :) http://www.endofworld.net/
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 04:46 AM
da earth, "damn that is a sweet earth you might say green ROUND" :D:D
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 04:54 AM
here's some recruitment material for the revolution:
http://www.addictedtowar.com/
check out the pages they link to.
maskedpantsman
12-12-2005, 05:14 AM
I just finished writing the letter to michael moore.
I'll post it tomorrow.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 05:26 AM
sweet. we need to keep this thread bumpin' make sure we keep it on the page near the top :)
bump it with links to facts, links to exposed propaganda, and links to the first page :D
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 05:29 AM
fantastic dude, i'm gonna have to sleep now :) on tomorrow i'll bump if necessary :cool:
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 05:32 AM
http://killtown.911review.org/oddities/2005.html THIS IS NO COINCIDENCE
http://www.kaygriggstalks.com/
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/ filter out the shit and sum diamond info will come up
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 05:33 AM
http://www.infowars.com/ :p Alex Jones deserves respect.
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 05:35 AM
Fucking Right. Read my fucking Sig!!!!!
Thats Emiliano Zapata man, yeah that phrase is the epitome of a revolution initiation. good ur starting sumthin SSW, convert these bastudz
Chondo
12-12-2005, 05:37 AM
where u from un viaje? what city
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 05:40 AM
a la chingada! que uo homes? WesL0co man, fumando un pinche toque. Whats the deal in Roma man, yall got good mota?
Psycho4Bud
12-12-2005, 05:41 AM
I AM FUCKING SERIOUS HERE!!!
those of you who want to continue to rely on big corperations for materialistic things you want, DIE.
I'm sure a big corporation didn't make the computor system your using and a big corporation isn't behing your internet service either....so what's your point?
beachguy in thongs
12-12-2005, 05:44 AM
I AM FUCKING SERIOUS HERE!!!
if you people DO NOT care about freedom, if you do not care about our government constantly succeding in taking away our freedoms, if you do not believe in being self sufficient, and stop relying on the government, DIE.
those of you who want to continue to rely on big corperations for materialistic things you want, DIE.
i am SICK and FUCKING tired of hearing about how some stoner got sentenced to life for selling a nug to his kid neighbor!
i am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED! why do we have to treat free will with prejudicy?!? why is it wrong for a person to smoke some crack, take LSD, or get stoned?!? why do you have to make preemptive strikes against people for the fear that they might break a law under the influence?!?
the only logical solution is to give harsher sentences to those under the influence, fuck the substance, they CHOSE to take it, they can SUFFER the consequences of their own ACTIONS thereafter, but if they dont act, they get high as fuck on crack, and dont DO anything, WHAT DID THEY GET ARRESTED FOR?!?
we MUST do anything and EVERYTHING we can to fight back! we cant just let the feds walk all over us anymore!!!
why do you not care about freedom?!?
why are you not protecting your rights?!?
im not going to go down a one man army and look like a derranged lunatic!!! :mad:
no... no, you know what? fuck it, i dont need anyone's help in organizing a successful revolution, i'll just hitch a ride to DC and assassanate the president with a pistol[/sarcasm]
I don't care.
I will now release the hate that absorbed into me from reading this.
Holy Fucken Shit, what some people do to release their energy. Screwing their fucken insane lives into whirlpools of fucken insanities and vulgarities, this shit, I can't even believe this whole fucken shit, why the hell would you give a shit if you can't fucken aim your negativity at other people who could do some shit, this ain't a fucken senate forum, we can't fucken pass an amendment...what the hell do you expect of us, telling us to FUCKEN DIE ASSHOLE IF YOU'RE A PIECE OF SHIT AND DON'T CARE FUCKEN DIE
So, that's the reason why you started this thread? :stoned:
Chondo
12-12-2005, 05:47 AM
a huevo wey la mota ta bruuta.
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 05:48 AM
ey fool, were u on the b-ball team with all them other vatos that were puffin. yall still on the team or what?
eg420ne
12-12-2005, 05:54 AM
LOL -- valley folks :stoned:
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 05:56 AM
wtf, orale, this a brown pride takeover or what homie? lmao
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 05:59 AM
lol beachguy, you got me all wrong, that first post was in the heat of the moment, when it was all comin' to me, i had to get it all down, and what better place than here, where people can read my words and help make a change.
the initial post was pure passion, everything is to be organized and well thought out before any real action takes place.
all my words of hatred were not pure, they heald no intent, i was in a mood, rummaging through all the government propaganda and crap, while chatting with a friend lol i let loose on him too, but he's cool i was just pissed off to high hell with those in power, i never meant to attack those whome they oppress...
im releasing my energy for change, not just to let it out.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 06:01 AM
yeah beachguy.. i vouch for that lol was his little conversation bitch
beachguy in thongs
12-12-2005, 06:04 AM
Yeah, it felt pretty good, thanks. :stoned:
CocaCola
12-12-2005, 06:07 AM
I'm sure a big corporation didn't make the computor system your using and a big corporation isn't behing your internet service either....so what's your point?
You're missing the point.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 06:10 AM
haha to be honnest, even given that this is a stoner's paradise forum, i expected a lot of attacks, i expected to be opposed and find a lot of resistance :D im glad it's not as hopeless as i thought! but that doesnt change anything :( we gotta get our shit together.
Chondo
12-12-2005, 06:10 AM
ey fool, were u on the b-ball team with all them other vatos that were puffin. yall still on the team or what?
hahaha u heard about that shit? yeah i was the one that took the fuckin weed but we all got kicked out of the team. all 5 starters too :)
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 06:13 AM
now thats a fukn injustice, just cuz u blazed bud, peices of shit no valen verga, fukkit man.
Chondo
12-12-2005, 06:14 AM
yeah the baseball team did it a few yrs ago and got caught, but the coach gave em a break. but our coach is this new gringo bitch. he called security and shit but luckily they weren't there so we got off easy
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 06:17 AM
ta cabron bro, ur lucky man. i had to go to court for the same shit.
Chondo
12-12-2005, 06:20 AM
yeah but a few days ago this cop pulled me out of class and gives me a fuckin citation so i have to appear in court in a few weeks. he said it won't go on my record though so it's cool
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 08:54 AM
what the hell??? :D shut up! lol let's try to keep this about revolution.
this was just gonna be a bump too :P
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=43378&page=1&pp=25
ScarlettCrush
12-12-2005, 09:04 AM
to fight the beaurocracy, you must have educated people and money to get anyone to listen to you. Three dudes sitting on the steps of congress bitching about how we aren't free will not help shit. Three lawyers with connections might get a law passed.
get your ass in school and learn how to overthrow the government from within.
without it, your just another slack ass loser with no plan.
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 09:50 AM
u both have a point, i think it can be done both ways. it would be more patriotic if a bunch of pissed citizens threw over the government several hundred grand strong marching into congress n beating the shit outta them while knockn sense in with grievances as well to get things done. i believe school was n will be bullshit, all u need is the proper information, college is just a money making scheme. knowlege itself is the key, all this from an autodidactic paradigm of course.
hey crush, leave slackers with no plans alone, Einstein was one.
STDzRus
12-12-2005, 09:53 AM
TRUTH BE TOLD!!*
*(originating off first post I haven't read the rest)*
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 10:10 AM
the primary clincher is money. so long as people must rely on material, they will never be free.
money is a material, and to rely on it for survival is absolutely rediculous, and i cannot succumb to usage, or more importantly earnage, else i fall to the same old trap of being a hyppocrite.
i cant use the internet, im a hyppocrite, i cant breathe, im a hyppocrite, i cant get stoned, im a hyppocrite.
well oh well, you are all IGNORANTLY hyppocrites, because you are all the truth, and the truth is pretending to be a human being, is pretending to be all in existance, the truth is the biggest liar there is. ;) but i cant prove that to you, only you can.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 10:21 AM
to fight the beaurocracy, you must have educated people and money to get anyone to listen to you. Three dudes sitting on the steps of congress bitching about how we aren't free will not help shit. Three lawyers with connections might get a law passed.
get your ass in school and learn how to overthrow the government from within.
without it, your just another slack ass loser with no plan.
I love you!!
That is my freggin' life purpose right there. :thumbsup:
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 10:27 AM
it would be more patriotic if a bunch of pissed citizens threw over the government several hundred grand strong marching into congress n beating the shit outta them while knockn sense in with grievances as well to get things done. i believe school was n will be bullshit, all u need is the proper information, college is just a money making scheme. knowlege itself is the key, all this from an autodidactic paradigm of course.
hey crush, leave slackers with no plans alone, Einstein was one.
lmao, bastudz
also, most of that stuff yall stated is what all law abiders say when it comes to changing the way things work, n what the fukk has changed with all of you 'do gooders' givin that same tired speech, nothin.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 10:33 AM
that's just a smack in the face :( i have accomplished more by lobbying than i did fighting. believe me i tried
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 10:34 AM
And one of these days... One of these days even this little pacifist bitch is gonna raise fists too... Sorry if it hits you too then.
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 10:35 AM
just callin it like i've seen it, no vindication intended, just what i know
the day ur fist hits me is the day u drown in ur own blood, now thats fukn patriotic
hey hows that 2nd line for a sig? no? ah fukk u too.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 10:40 AM
Hey, show me some results big man.
I've saved some people from sleeping on the streets.
What did you do last night?
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 10:41 AM
Btw no vindication intended? Comes across differently when you say Fuck You.
Not wasting any more words.
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 10:42 AM
blazed some bud, drank a lil gin, n banged my homegirls. community service was enough for me. the homeless people round here seem to enjoy their lifestyle. big whoop for you anyways i guess.
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 10:43 AM
Btw no vindication intended? Comes across differently when you say Fuck You.
Not wasting any more words.
talk a bout ego thinkn it was seriously aimed towards you, ur not the only one thats gonna read this u know, ass.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 10:47 AM
anyway :) talking bout a revolution then
http://www.sussex.ac.uk/Users/hafa3/socdem.htm
and
http://www.alternet.org/story/9069/
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 10:48 AM
arg, knock it off you two, i could clearly see that UnViaje was using "fuck you" casually and not directly.
and 1 man lobying versus one man fighting is going to be an obvious more power to the lobbyist.
but 500,000 people would sooner fight in a drunken rage than lobby lol and even if 500,000 people did, the Feds would just override their shit, like they did when we voted on legal Dr. Assisted Suicide in Oregon.
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 10:51 AM
and 1 man lobying versus one man fighting is going to be an obvious more power to the lobbyist.
yeah i keep hearing that but havent seen any results as of yet
what have they done to you ssw?
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 10:56 AM
One man lobbying and one man fighting combined could be more helpful to both.. Hmm gotta revise my opinion on that maybe...
So how about the first little step in the revolution then? I notice i'm fucking surrounded by stuff from the CocaCola company. That money is going straight to the fortunate powerful few. So from now on;
Harv will never purchase a product of the Coca-Cola company again. That's a goddamned promise. How about you?
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 10:59 AM
nise, an epiphany. i buy generic :thumbsup:
Lily420
12-12-2005, 11:22 AM
Toke, they'll never know :D ;) :smokin:
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 11:24 AM
y'all dont need soda, and you can make a natural water filter in your back yard :D
i should -_- lol
i just need to get all the nessecary info. first :P
meh, i guess the internet DOES come in handy from time to time... -_-
slipknotpsycho
12-12-2005, 11:29 AM
you know, if it was really about freedom anymore i might consider giving my life to defend it, but it all doesn't matter anymore. even the severely suppressed people left in this country don't want freedom, no one person wants freedom they just want their desires to be free, and anything they don't like they want silenced. doesn't matter who you are, there is atleast one thing out there you feel better would be silenced, then out in the open and free for anyone to try. it's only human insticnt. i won't give my life for "freedom" because as soon as it's not about "our" dream anymore, i'm expendable. for instance, i can go to war for my country "protecting our freedoms", "serve my country" and all, come home, get busted with some weed and go straight to jail, with no thought of what i did to keep this country free for others, and what i fought to keep. basicly what i'm trying to say, is it doesn't matter anymore, i don't even bother to try, i don't revolt, but i don't exactly follow the laws put in front of me. it just all seems so pointless sometimes...
UnViaje
12-12-2005, 11:35 AM
i still say it would be more patriotic if a bunch of pissed citizens threw over the government several hundred grand strong marching into congress n beating the shit outta them while knockn sense in with grievances as well to get things done. i believe school was n will be bullshit, all u need is the proper information, college is just a money making scheme. knowlege itself is the key, all this from an autodidactic paradigm of course.
hey crush, leave slackers with no plans alone, Einstein was one.
also, most of that stuff yall stated is what all law abiders say when it comes to changing the way things work, n what the fukk has changed with all of you 'do gooders' givin that same tired speech, nothin. accept it.
yeah its a repost, big whoop, wanna fight about it?
ladyM
12-12-2005, 01:59 PM
Screw you you little fucking twit! I too am unhappy with our government, but no! Im not willing to die for it. WTF! I speak up for our freedoms and have very strong feeling about it. Id rather fly the flag upside down than be killed by some militant asshole. Im 38 years old with a family and friends and Have no intention of dying to prove something thats been fought about for centuries.
You go get your ass killed, dont be such an ass to others who arent as militant as you, DIE ashole DIE!
These are the types of threads that drive me nuts!
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 02:57 PM
:( don't take it the wrong way, ladyM he just uttered his frustration regarding our current state. I for one understand him, that's why i tried to sooth the pain. Sometimes a mans limit is just reached. Then you must vent your anger, not oppressing your deepest thoughts and emotions. Regard it as being a cry for a change.
Less eloquently put thoughts are of the same emotional value as carefully compiled theorys. Not of the same scientific worth, but containing as much as or even more emotional value.
eg420ne
12-12-2005, 06:33 PM
WOW! Good thread-- I for 1 think we should drag the democrats & republicans out from power b4 America is totally gone forever. But dont know who we can trust to put in power. :twocents:
Chondo
12-12-2005, 07:19 PM
we need a buncha rich people who toke to form a new political party. then maybe we'll see results
ScarlettCrush
12-12-2005, 07:28 PM
isn't utah filled with compounds of folks who beleive this?
I see them getting killed on the news sometimes and I wonder....if you want to make your own government why would you do it inside a system you hate?
You know it is just going to fail, our government is too powerful and those people are fucking nuts with their guns and new saviors.
You don't have to be angry man, you don't have to have money, but you are using someone elses to live. If you have these principals start living them for real. You don't like corporations and consumers, stop being one. YOu don't like money, then stop costing someone money. You don't like this government then change it or move somewhere else.
I promise if you go to some third world country where they spend all day just trying to secure food and shelter that those people are not happy. That's why they come to the US.
I don't like that so many of my freedom's are gone. My power in this situation is to move somewhere else or try to change things as I can. I have tried the latter and am working towards the former.
The smoking laws in this country will not change until the smokers have power, education and money to change the laws.
and that's a fact.
so you can help us, or you can sit in the square and set yourself on fire.
You'll get a headline, and in the end it will hardly matter.
or you can go to school, learn how to work the system and fix it for us
or you can take your ideals of a perfect life and society and put them to use somewhere in the wilderness of alaska far away from evil money, corporations and consumers.
but sitting home sucking up your mom's money, living off the system and bitching about it really doesn't acheive anything, including your own ideals.
Live them, or stfu.
I'm rooting for stfu.
Harvesthetic
12-12-2005, 07:49 PM
but sitting home sucking up your mom's money, living off the system and bitching about it really doesn't acheive anything, including your own ideals.
Live them, or stfu.
I'm rooting for stfu.
that's icecold :D
:thumbsup:
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 09:08 PM
ookaay i fucking lost my post whilst trying to quote you scarlet! lol you suck! :D
anyways...
slipknot, i do not wish for anyone to silence anything, that is my goal, to silence the silencers. they can have their opinions just like everyone else, but the must be set straight for imposing upon the wills of others.
we have free will, and i intend to make free will the iron law.
if you dont like it, ignore it or move somewhere else, we have freedom. we're gonna exerscise it.
okay, ladyM, i never wanted anyone to die, i dont want any death or violence, but it has come to the point that we've been backed into the corner by some 8 or so superpowers behind the superpower of the world.
if we continue this path of peaceful ignorance, soon enough they will successfully ban all things "wrong" from smoking pot to homosexuality.
free will is not for others to controll, it is for yourself and yourself alone.
maybe YOU dont mind that others are being attacked for exerscising their rights, but i wont stand for it.
eg, we cant have any one person in power, power MUST be distributed to ALL the PEOPLE.
government MUST NOT ever have power, they are supposed to be the slaves for the PEOPLE.
but given the things they have access too, it's quite understandable how easily corrupted the government is.
Chondo, money is the problem. the rich get richer when in office.
then again im sure a homeless bum would do the same thing, use his power to better help him self.
that's the problem with people, and why they cant be in power; they only care about themselves and their family, fuck the rest of the world, they can suffer.
this is exactly the attitude of those who are in power, they only care about making more money to support themselves and their families.
isn't utah filled with compounds of folks who beleive this?
I see them getting killed on the news sometimes and I wonder....if you want to make your own government why would you do it inside a system you hate?
You know it is just going to fail, our government is too powerful and those people are fucking nuts with their guns and new saviors.
You don't have to be angry man, you don't have to have money, but you are using someone elses to live. If you have these principals start living them for real. You don't like corporations and consumers, stop being one. YOu don't like money, then stop costing someone money. You don't like this government then change it or move somewhere else.
I promise if you go to some third world country where they spend all day just trying to secure food and shelter that those people are not happy. That's why they come to the US.
I don't like that so many of my freedom's are gone. My power in this situation is to move somewhere else or try to change things as I can. I have tried the latter and am working towards the former.
The smoking laws in this country will not change until the smokers have power, education and money to change the laws.
and that's a fact.
so you can help us, or you can sit in the square and set yourself on fire.
You'll get a headline, and in the end it will hardly matter.
or you can go to school, learn how to work the system and fix it for us
or you can take your ideals of a perfect life and society and put them to use somewhere in the wilderness of alaska far away from evil money, corporations and consumers.
but sitting home sucking up your mom's money, living off the system and bitching about it really doesn't acheive anything, including your own ideals.
Live them, or stfu.
I'm rooting for stfu.untill the world changes, i can neither join society or leave it, i have to stand and fight for what is just, i must stand and fight for our freedoms. in the end freeing everyone from the repression would be enough to repay my debt to my parents, and i can just disappear, knowing that i will not be persacuted fro growing a forest of marijuana, knowing that i will not be persacuted or attacked by law for being buck nude 24/7.
untill i know that i, and the rest of the nation, can be free, i cant stop fighting.
stop missing the point of all this, it is not about weather or not i am following my own moral code, i am being pinned under a catch 22 that prevents me from adhering to my own morals and making a change.
but i cannot adhere to my morals untill that change takes place!
eg420ne
12-12-2005, 09:16 PM
Good post- SSwolf-
king kong bong
12-12-2005, 09:20 PM
i will do something when the time comes.....
Das Boot
12-12-2005, 09:23 PM
A revolution against AMERICA? Not to sound like a gun totting redneck or anything but AMERICA will kick your fucking ass. You post things on the internet you don't know how to fight. None of us do. Well maybe I do because I only started using a computer a short while ago and happen to have a cool beard growing on my face. As for everyone else, you don't stand a chance.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 09:52 PM
A revolution against AMERICA? Not to sound like a gun totting redneck or anything but AMERICA will kick your fucking ass. You post things on the internet you don't know how to fight. None of us do. Well maybe I do because I only started using a computer a short while ago and happen to have a cool beard growing on my face. As for everyone else, you don't stand a chance.lmao i cant take that seriousely lmfao :D funny post dude.
king kong bong
12-12-2005, 10:42 PM
no way is your beard cooler than mine, NO WAY!!!!
beachguy in thongs
12-12-2005, 10:51 PM
I'm sorry, there's just to much negativity flowing through my computer.
D.Boone
12-12-2005, 10:58 PM
the more man smoke herb the more babylon fall.
-Bob Marley
slipknotpsycho
12-12-2005, 11:16 PM
slipknot, i do not wish for anyone to silence anything, that is my goal, to silence the silencers. they can have their opinions just like everyone else, but the must be set straight for imposing upon the wills of others.
we have free will, and i intend to make free will the iron law.
well i don't know you, and don't know how you think as an individual. however, i do know that every person has atleast one thing they don't like, and don't want to be seen heard or known of. i could take it to extremes to prove my point, if you really want me to. i don't know if we're even on the same page about the "freedoms" we want, but i do wish for freedom. i just don't see the point in dying for it anymore, as indicated by my first post. i'll spare you the extremes, just know that if i had to, i could find something that you wouldn't want to be given with other freedoms.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-12-2005, 11:21 PM
well i don't know you, and don't know how you think as an individual. however, i do know that every person has atleast one thing they don't like, and don't want to be seen heard or known of. i could take it to extremes to prove my point, if you really want me to. i don't know if we're even on the same page about the "freedoms" we want, but i do wish for freedom. i just don't see the point in dying for it anymore, as indicated by my first post. i'll spare you the extremes, just know that if i had to, i could find something that you wouldn't want to be given with other freedoms.i honnestly dont think you could.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-13-2005, 02:38 AM
*hump* erhem i meant bump.
maskedpantsman
12-13-2005, 03:46 AM
this thread is going downhill FAST.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-13-2005, 03:48 AM
how so? just because people who think we're all just fine and dandy are opposing it?
naw, they can suffer when the shit hits the fan, im gonna keep trying to save some minds from the anguish ahead.
maskedpantsman
12-13-2005, 03:51 AM
I'm with you on that.
slipknotpsycho
12-13-2005, 04:00 AM
i honnestly dont think you could.
ok i know you're probably going to find some way around this just so that you're not "wrong" but.. technically giving true freedom means someone could come and kidnap your whole family and rape you all with random sized and shaped objects, everything from a wooden laddle to a toilet scrub brush, anytime they wanted. so, do you really not want to silence some things in this world? and yea i know i'm taking it to extremes now, but true freedom would mean someone would have the option of doing this to you. and for sake of argument lets just say that it comes before you know wha'ts happenening and you and your whole family is unable to fend them off no matter what you do, meaning "i'd pull out a gun and shoot anyone that tried" wouldn't work in this situation.
maskedpantsman
12-13-2005, 04:01 AM
The letter...
Mr.Moore,
For too long now our country has been kidnapped from its intentions. We, the members of the Cannabis.com message boards, seek your guidance and wisdom on action we could take in not only the legalization of marijuana but the retrieval of lost freedoms.
We do not and will not accept the restraining consequences of a violent and greedy government. If this country is truly ours, why are certain overwhelmingly obvious truths still ignored and ravaged?
The people of the Cannabis.com boards have obtained disabilities more disturbing than those of deafness or blindness. We are mentally disabled. We can't think the same way "normal people" think. When we watch our friends die in wars they never understood, we do not see friends dying in in help of freedom. When see advertisements connecting DEATH with a harmelss plant, we see lies and stereotypes. Mr.Moore, when we see our hard-earned money going to progrmas like the Patriot Act, we realize-we're paying for our own demise.
We are not ready for a society where opinion is morality. We are not ready for a world where we must Salem's Lot in the courts of D.C. for having the disability of free thought.
Sincerely,
All member of www.boards.cannabis.com
Sorry about lack of indentation, I wasn't sure how to do it on here.
People are free to critique and alter this.
maskedpantsman
12-13-2005, 04:13 AM
bump
stangle12
12-13-2005, 04:23 AM
damn you maskedpantsman.
maskedpantsman
12-13-2005, 04:29 AM
I win that round, Dr.Lao.
check out this site
www.paranormalnetwork.net
it is a great message board like this one
many conspiracy theorists there. Most of them are quite rational thinkers, in fact i am a member there.
maskedpantsman
12-13-2005, 04:39 AM
why the hell would you make your name "halo"?
did you just choose a random game that everyone seems to like and decide that that alone would be a good username?
well, I just get a new username which will be called "tampax".
So that way, all the girls will like me.
Harvesthetic
12-13-2005, 04:40 AM
a halo is the auro depicted in many works of art, as well as being present in nearly all religions.
and if it's not that he likes gaming. is this relevant?
write another letter, twas very proper writing.
maskedpantsman
12-13-2005, 04:41 AM
not at all...I just thought I should insult him.
Harvesthetic
12-13-2005, 04:49 AM
not at all...I just thought I should insult him.
:D fair enough, satire
this is not an idolatry quotation i do think it fits the subject mckenna said in order to reveil the road ahead of us (we will never predict the scenery though) we need to follow the simple beauty in all things. this goes further then any newage crap. if you follow the path of beauty, you follow the path of the heart.
"Para mi solo recorrer los caminos que tienen corazon."
call me a treehugger i don't care :) matter a fact i'm gonna hug a tree right now.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-13-2005, 05:25 AM
ok i know you're probably going to find some way around this just so that you're not "wrong" but.. technically giving true freedom means someone could come and kidnap your whole family and rape you all with random sized and shaped objects, everything from a wooden laddle to a toilet scrub brush, anytime they wanted. so, do you really not want to silence some things in this world? and yea i know i'm taking it to extremes now, but true freedom would mean someone would have the option of doing this to you. and for sake of argument lets just say that it comes before you know wha'ts happenening and you and your whole family is unable to fend them off no matter what you do, meaning "i'd pull out a gun and shoot anyone that tried" wouldn't work in this situation.i want someone to try. i will fight back.
this is all about survival and becoming stronger!!!
laws prevent this, they make survival too easy, which weakens us.
yeah yeah yeah, we can always go exerscise i know, but exerscise alone isnt going to help us when someone tries to murder us or rape us, we have to learn how to protect ourselves and co-exist with the derranged and psychopaths.
and to do that, you protect yourself from them.
why rely on everyone else to solve your problems, hmm?
screw the extremes buddy, i've been so far into one polar extreem that i entered the other... and vice versa.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-13-2005, 05:29 AM
dude man, that was sweet, maskedpantsman, do it again! keep posting your letters to Moore! :D that was DAMN good dude!
adfsghjn
12-13-2005, 05:32 AM
"That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have" - Henry David Thoreau
If today you erased all evidence of government, man would not be ready for it. We don't live in an age where anarchy is plausible. Perhaps someday when people don't need laws to govern their morals, we won't need a government.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-13-2005, 05:38 AM
"That government is best which governs not at all; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have" - Henry David Thoreau
If today you erased all evidence of government, man would not be ready for it. We don't live in an age where anarchy is plausible. Perhaps someday when people don't need laws to govern their morals, we won't need a government.
****SIGH****
there will always be "amoral" people who will do "evil" things all the time.
never will anarchy be so peaceful that you dont have to worry about being murdered.
but likewise, containing the force of "evil" by sending lawbreakers to prison is only BUILDING on their evil intentions.
anarchy is, by far, more peaceful than laws, but you're right, if we just BAM went into anarchy, people would flip out and start killing everyone they see.
but in the end, those who were meant to survive will, and the destructive chaos will swiftly subside to a tiny treakling stream, from a raging tsunami.
and from then on, it would be only a steady stream, untill people start enforcing laws.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-13-2005, 08:27 PM
bump for the maskedpants' next letter.
thcbongman
12-14-2005, 12:49 AM
No fucking way.........is that you Alan?
My eyes must be deceiving me.
maskedpantsman
12-14-2005, 02:33 AM
aight, I'll write another letter tonight and post it tomorrow.
i really like your letter maskedpantsman its very good
and i chose the name halo cause halo2 is my favorite video game
im sorry if it bothers you but i didnt choose it cause everyone likes it. i chose it cause i like it.
maskedpantsman
12-14-2005, 02:48 AM
i really like your letter maskedpantsman its very good
and i chose the name halo cause halo2 is my favorite video game
im sorry if it bothers you but i didnt choose it cause everyone likes it. i chose it cause i like it.
it's okay...I like...masks...and pants...and...nevermind...
I was just pissed off and tired last night, I'll make it up to you later ;) ;)
SloppyJoe
12-14-2005, 02:57 AM
Originally posted by TrichomeCreator
What a combination we have in office
Dick & Bush
Yes it is......but there's someone you're leaving out
Dick, Bush & Colin
:rasta:
slipknotpsycho
12-14-2005, 04:55 AM
i want someone to try. i will fight back.
this is what i was talking about, instead of facing the proposed situation, you just simply say "i'd fight back". just for a second, think about not being able to fight back, and there would be ways to ensure you didn't.... would you still not want these things silenced, or would you be sittting there with a hair brush up your ass thinking "freedom is great"?
slipknotpsycho
12-14-2005, 04:57 AM
Originally posted by TrichomeCreator
Yes it is......but there's someone you're leaving out
Dick, Bush & Colin
:rasta:
colin is either resigned or term was up or something, either way he's not the "head honcho" anymore, or it's already been stated he's going to be leaving and just hasnt' yet. btw if you were trying to poke fun at the fact that the "three most powerful men in the us are named bush dick and colin" you spelled it wrong for the joke, it would be "colon"
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-14-2005, 07:36 PM
this is what i was talking about, instead of facing the proposed situation, you just simply say "i'd fight back". just for a second, think about not being able to fight back, and there would be ways to ensure you didn't.... would you still not want these things silenced, or would you be sittting there with a hair brush up your ass thinking "freedom is great"?well, maybe im just too strong for other people then.
i can protect my free will. and i will.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-16-2005, 05:26 AM
okay, looks like the death bumping sequence begins...
10 bumps in a row says death.
non contributive posts count only as bumps.
tylerkane
12-16-2005, 05:32 AM
You fucking hippy's should have your computers taken away
bonsaiguy
12-16-2005, 05:46 AM
[QUOTE=maskedpantsman]The letter...
Mr.Moore,
Which Mr Moore would you be referring to?
You fucking hippy's should have your computers taken away
You fucking conservatives should have your reproductivce organs taken away.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-16-2005, 07:26 PM
okay,. fuck it, no one is mature enough to hold a peaceful revolution or even stick to a poorly assembeled online orgamizing of a protest/revolution.
what a fucking waste of time.
maskedpantsman
12-16-2005, 07:34 PM
[QUOTE=maskedpantsman]The letter...
Mr.Moore,
Which Mr Moore would you be referring to?
Michael Moore
beachguy in thongs
12-17-2005, 02:11 AM
okay,. fuck it, no one is mature enough to hold a peaceful revolution or even stick to a poorly assembeled online orgamizing of a protest/revolution.
what a fucking waste of time.
Okay. Lay them down. Right here. Give us all your prescription medications, now, please.
tylerkane
12-17-2005, 07:51 AM
lol
im not a conservative
im a kid
bonsaiguy
12-17-2005, 07:59 AM
Michael Moore
That's what I was afraid of.
bonsaiguy
12-17-2005, 08:11 AM
The only way Michael Moore is going to be of any use to anyone is if there is a nice tidy profit in it for...guess who?...Michael Moore. He's like the anti-michael-savage or even rush limbaugh. A clever profiteer who saw a niche in the market and exploited it quite handily. He glommed on to Cindy Sheehan to get his name back in the news because he has another movie coming out. The minute these guys think that the opposite viewpoint will up their revenues or listener base, they will switch. Rush was at one time a registered democrat and Ed Schultz, now on Air America, was once a conservative talk show host.
GREENBUDSTAR
12-17-2005, 10:05 AM
Get off your ass and do something like get your friends to get arrested in front of the local court house for smoking herb. If enough of you young 'turks' would put down your bong and get arrested atleast at a rally once a year, and fill up the jails across the country, so the media would cover it, then that would draw alot more attention than to carry a sign saying," hurray for my side". The movement needs volunteers, just like you, to stand up and be counted who arn't afraid of a police record for simple possession. Just one person can start the ball rolling for social change just like Rosa Parks did by not sitting at the back of the bus, where you are right now, at the back of the bus with all the other geese who are to chicken shit to stand up and me a man for social change...You have to get angry and not give a shit about the system that you say is so fucked up....We need guys just like you who have "balls" to do something different to stir up society that wants change but doesn't want to do something big to get the fucking assholes attention. If they want to lock up users then lets give lots of pot smokers to lock up in their over filled jail and prisons and cost them lots of bucks...You have to think radical here and not just complain to us without giving us some hope for change. Share this idea around with your high minded friends and see who wants to be a real soldier on the war on pot. Right now we are losing as we sit on the side lines and just hope for change without action. If we want attention to our plight we have to stop thinking of doing the old things and start coming up with new earth shaking protests to get the attention across the board. This is no joking matter as people are loosing their freedoms and property to fucking pig cops who are always looking for an easy pot bust rather than solve some rape or murder. The price is high for those who think the other guy will do something for me and my values. You have inform and get large groups to protest all across the fruited plains. Be a man not just a stoned out hippy pot smoker. Get organized and make plans to protest and get busted and don't pay the fines but take the jail time instead...And by all means never give up your right to speedy trail and don't take a plea deal, but ask for a jury trail to cost the court system as much money as you can make them spend on your sorry ass. Think about this and send me a note at:
[email protected] --p.s. I'm an old hippy now and have spend years behind bars for pot and now it's your time to take my place and charge ahead to get attention for social change
maskedpantsman
12-18-2005, 11:28 PM
Get off your ass and do something like get your friends to get arrested in front of the local court house for smoking herb. If enough of you young 'turks' would put down your bong and get arrested atleast at a rally once a year, and fill up the jails across the country, so the media would cover it, then that would draw alot more attention than to carry a sign saying," hurray for my side". The movement needs volunteers, just like you, to stand up and be counted who arn't afraid of a police record for simple possession. Just one person can start the ball rolling for social change just like Rosa Parks did by not sitting at the back of the bus, where you are right now, at the back of the bus with all the other geese who are to chicken shit to stand up and me a man for social change...You have to get angry and not give a shit about the system that you say is so fucked up....We need guys just like you who have "balls" to do something different to stir up society that wants change but doesn't want to do something big to get the fucking assholes attention. If they want to lock up users then lets give lots of pot smokers to lock up in their over filled jail and prisons and cost them lots of bucks...You have to think radical here and not just complain to us without giving us some hope for change. Share this idea around with your high minded friends and see who wants to be a real soldier on the war on pot. Right now we are losing as we sit on the side lines and just hope for change without action. If we want attention to our plight we have to stop thinking of doing the old things and start coming up with new earth shaking protests to get the attention across the board. This is no joking matter as people are loosing their freedoms and property to fucking pig cops who are always looking for an easy pot bust rather than solve some rape or murder. The price is high for those who think the other guy will do something for me and my values. You have inform and get large groups to protest all across the fruited plains. Be a man not just a stoned out hippy pot smoker. Get organized and make plans to protest and get busted and don't pay the fines but take the jail time instead...And by all means never give up your right to speedy trail and don't take a plea deal, but ask for a jury trail to cost the court system as much money as you can make them spend on your sorry ass. Think about this and send me a note at:
[email protected] --p.s. I'm an old hippy now and have spend years behind bars for pot and now it's your time to take my place and charge ahead to get attention for social change
Even though you only have 6 posts, I already consider you the coolest and craziest person on these boards.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-28-2005, 11:07 PM
Get off your ass and do something like get your friends to get arrested in front of the local court house for smoking herb. If enough of you young 'turks' would put down your bong and get arrested atleast at a rally once a year, and fill up the jails across the country, so the media would cover it, then that would draw alot more attention than to carry a sign saying," hurray for my side". The movement needs volunteers, just like you, to stand up and be counted who arn't afraid of a police record for simple possession. Just one person can start the ball rolling for social change just like Rosa Parks did by not sitting at the back of the bus, where you are right now, at the back of the bus with all the other geese who are to chicken shit to stand up and me a man for social change...You have to get angry and not give a shit about the system that you say is so fucked up....We need guys just like you who have "balls" to do something different to stir up society that wants change but doesn't want to do something big to get the fucking assholes attention. If they want to lock up users then lets give lots of pot smokers to lock up in their over filled jail and prisons and cost them lots of bucks...You have to think radical here and not just complain to us without giving us some hope for change. Share this idea around with your high minded friends and see who wants to be a real soldier on the war on pot. Right now we are losing as we sit on the side lines and just hope for change without action. If we want attention to our plight we have to stop thinking of doing the old things and start coming up with new earth shaking protests to get the attention across the board. This is no joking matter as people are loosing their freedoms and property to fucking pig cops who are always looking for an easy pot bust rather than solve some rape or murder. The price is high for those who think the other guy will do something for me and my values. You have inform and get large groups to protest all across the fruited plains. Be a man not just a stoned out hippy pot smoker. Get organized and make plans to protest and get busted and don't pay the fines but take the jail time instead...And by all means never give up your right to speedy trail and don't take a plea deal, but ask for a jury trail to cost the court system as much money as you can make them spend on your sorry ass. Think about this and send me a note at:
[email protected] --p.s. I'm an old hippy now and have spend years behind bars for pot and now it's your time to take my place and charge ahead to get attention for social changeEven though you only have 6 posts, I already consider you the coolest and craziest person on these boards.seconded.
sorry i havent been on in a while, bad connection at mom's, where i went for christmas.
which turns out to have been a mistake, more info on my blog:
http://spaces.msn.com/members/openedeyes/
that happened on the 27'th BTW.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-01-2006, 10:43 PM
bumpped, because something needs to get done, damnit!
eg420ne
01-01-2006, 11:58 PM
Was this the thread you were talking about in the political forum Stoner Shadow Wolf--Wonder how many plans there are to overthrow this Govt---We know now voting isnt going to work, so what the next thing to do?
I have a feeling this year the govt will be coming for the real patRIOTs, you know when they staged the next terrorist attack to blame it on Iran.....And blame the anti-war protesters, liberals, democrats or the real patRIOTs, that its are fault because we wouldnt give up our liberty.
We may have to talk in code pretty soon----
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 03:23 AM
we need to get organized soon. somehow i just expect to be left out of the fun, yaknow, since im dirt poor and cant support myself if my life depended on it (and it rather does), im obviousely not worth anyone's time, y'know, the whole lack of compassion and elitism that replaces it.
likemclever
01-02-2006, 04:06 AM
no... no, you know what? fuck it, i dont need anyone's help in organizing a successful revolution, i'll just hitch a ride to DC and assassanate the president with a pistol[/sarcasm]
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Who the fuck do you think you are.
You can??t say shit like that unless you want to talk to the boys from the Secret Service. Do you think that writing ??sarcasm? at the end makes it all cool.
I can??t believe a mod let that go?It needs to be deleted. All it does is bring unwanted negative attention to this supposed cause you are trying to promote.
Get over yourself?you smoke pot?you could have fooled me.
beachguy in thongs
01-02-2006, 04:17 AM
That reminds me of a Pink Floyd song...
eg420ne
01-02-2006, 04:36 AM
Freedom of speech is a bitch--Enjoy it while you can--------- :thumbsup:
eg420ne
01-02-2006, 04:43 AM
Who the fuck do you think you are.
You can??t say shit like that unless you want to talk to the boys from the Secret Service. Do you think that writing ??sarcasm? at the end makes it all cool.
I can??t believe a mod let that go?It needs to be deleted. All it does is bring unwanted negative attention to this supposed cause you are trying to promote.
Get over yourself?you smoke pot?you could have fooled me.
Good thing your not a mod......Even doh I wouldnt say kill lorddumbass, Im sure he's well protected.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 04:49 AM
Who the fuck do you think you are.
You can??t say shit like that unless you want to talk to the boys from the Secret Service. Do you think that writing ??sarcasm? at the end makes it all cool.
I can??t believe a mod let that go?It needs to be deleted. All it does is bring unwanted negative attention to this supposed cause you are trying to promote.
Get over yourself?you smoke pot?you could have fooled me.
i was being sarcastic in an insult to everyone who isnt out there protesting and such, as per the title of this thread.
Garden Knowm
01-02-2006, 04:50 AM
stoner... if you stay still... perfectly still... focus your awareness inward.. do not react... let thougts come and go...... do not become your thoughts.. watch everything... realize you are not the I statements... Go deeper.. follow your breath.. this could take up to ten minutes... just 10 minutes of self awareness.. that is all you need to get a glimpse of freedom... you can be free.. let go of your thoughts of death and your definition of freedom... let everything go.. forget your name.. and travel inwards to the place of absolute power and absolute freedom..
if only you would take ten minutes to breath and watch your thoughts..
my friend.. you would find LOVE... you would become LOVE... a non attached, all powerful love, FREEDOM...
but you must sit still my friend... it is in this stillness... in this NON reactive state that a glipse of your true being will show itsef..I would tell yu more.. but there are no words for this.. and the reason that so few KNOW about this is that they can not stay still...
LOVE YOU
beachguy in thongs
01-02-2006, 04:51 AM
Inwards, Knowm said.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 04:52 AM
thanks, i've been needing to hear that lately, though it hasnt done me a lot of help to try lately either, i've accomplished a lot once before.
lately i've jsut found it terribly difficult to concentrate and stay focused, even been forgeting what i was talking abou in mid sentence, it's become very frusterating.
Garden Knowm
01-02-2006, 04:55 AM
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Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 04:58 AM
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likemclever
01-02-2006, 05:45 AM
Good thing your not a mod......Even doh I wouldnt say kill lorddumbass, Im sure he's well protected.
Yeah good thing I??m not?
You can??t just go around telling people your going to kill some just cause you had a bad fucking day.
Freedom of speech doesn??t mean you don??t have to take responsibility for what comes out of your mouth.
overdrive
01-02-2006, 06:10 AM
and we need to go straight to DC, together, nude stoned and having a blast.
and when they try to arrest us, we will fight for suicide over imprisonment.
we cannot live without our rights, so we must die trying to get them.
and once again, those who dont want to give your life for freedom, you deserve to die.
no no, we'll ship you off to iraq.
Okay... I agree with you except for the suicide part. Like whoa man, that's some crazy Charles Manson cult leader shit! A protest would be good, but suicide, c'mon man. How fuckin' extreme are you? So if I don't want to go to Washington DC I deserve to die? That's way radical man. Well I'm Canadian anyway, I'll never go to jail for getting caught with a bit of pot. So I defintely must deserve to die cause I'm never setting foot in Washington DC to protest, fuck that man!
redsoxfan49
01-02-2006, 06:22 AM
yo stoner shadow wolf
ummm you are a loser, haha you got arrested for getting your ass beat by your mother, hahahaha, jesus, i hope you have moved your ass out. sorry but i found that hillarious. hahaha im sorry
peace
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 06:28 AM
Okay... I agree with you except for the suicide part. Like whoa man, that's some crazy Charles Manson cult leader shit! A protest would be good, but suicide, c'mon man. How fuckin' extreme are you? So if I don't want to go to Washington DC I deserve to die? That's way radical man. Well I'm Canadian anyway, I'll never go to jail for getting caught with a bit of pot. So I defintely must deserve to die cause I'm never setting foot in Washington DC to protest, fuck that man!
yeah, if i were you, i wouldnt even be complaining in the first place, i'd probably just get ripped and stay that way...
but then again, im not you. and even if i were, i'd like to think that i would still have a high priority to spread and maintain freedom...
yo stoner shadow wolf
ummm you are a loser, haha you got arrested for getting your ass beat by your mother, hahahaha, jesus, i hope you have moved your ass out. sorry but i found that hillarious. hahaha im sorry
peaceim glad my misery entertains you, so glad to help
redsoxfan49
01-02-2006, 06:32 AM
ur 20 and still livin at home?
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 06:33 AM
well unfortunately i have no friends to move in with, so yeah.
BaseRSX
01-02-2006, 06:33 AM
Sure there is a lot I would change. I also hate Bush. But I ask you this? Name another country that has laws you WOULD agree with? Do you know how much harsher possession penalties are in Asian countries?!?! Drugs like crack etc. are illegal in just about every country in the world. Maybe they aren??t in a places like Afghanistan but look at those places; they have no laws or police enforcement so every single person, even children, walks around with an AK-47!! Fuck that!
There is no perfect system anywhere. Getting all worked up and calling for a revolution is just stupid. Just be glade we don??t have pot laws as bad as those in Singapore or Thailand! And also be glade we don??t live in a society were the ??laws? are governed by the drug/war lords like Sudan etc..
You will never find a perfect country with a perfect set of laws and anarchy is just as bad..
redsoxfan49
01-02-2006, 06:35 AM
well unfortunately i have no friends to move in with, so yeah.
maybe its time for your own place?
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 06:37 AM
Sure there is a lot I would change. I also hate Bush. But I ask you this? Name another country that has laws you WOULD agree with? Do you know how much harsher possession penalties are in Asian countries?!?! Drugs like crack etc. are illegal in just about every country in the world. Maybe they aren??t in a places like Afghanistan but look at those places; they have no laws or police enforcement so every single person, even children, walks around with an AK-47!! Fuck that!
There is no perfect system anywhere. Getting all worked up and calling for a revolution is just stupid. Just be glade we don??t have pot laws as bad as those in Singapore or Thailand! And also be glade we don??t live in a society were the ??laws? are governed by the drug/war lords like Sudan etc..
You will never find a perfect country with a perfect set of laws and anarchy is just as bad..
no shit sherlock, you think i dont know that? let's start where we live huh? and work our way out.
sheesh, i'd give my life for freedom if i lived in one of those shitty countries sooner than i would here! but i'd take as many lives with me as i could if i lived out there lol
BaseRSX
01-02-2006, 06:41 AM
no shit sherlock, you think i dont know that? let's start where we live huh? and work our way out.
sheesh, i'd give my life for freedom if i lived in one of those shitty countries sooner than i would here! but i'd take as many lives with me as i could if i lived out there lol
Uhh Singapore is not a shitty country, ether is Japan. Both have way harsher pot laws then we do.. And rather than trying to change something you will never, ever succeed at, why not just move to one of the countries or even states that has less harsh pot laws. Colorado, and Alaska are the 2 best states. You must like getting all worked up because in the end that is all you will succeed at, getting yourself all worked up over something that will never change.
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 06:49 AM
Uhh Singapore is not a shitty country, ether is Japan. Both have way harsher pot laws then we do.. And rather than trying to change something you will never, ever succeed at, why not just move to one of the countries or even states that has less harsh pot laws. Colorado, and Alaska are the 2 best states. You must like getting all worked up because in the end that is all you will succeed at, getting yourself all worked up over something that will never change.your pessemistic outlook isnt going to help that change, and in fact is part of the problem.
the world is an evil place not because people do evil things, not because the countries have bad laws, but because people, like yourself, look on and do nothing!
BaseRSX
01-02-2006, 06:51 AM
your pessemistic outlook isnt going to help that change, and in fact is part of the problem.
the world is an evil place not because people do evil things, not because the countries have bad laws, but because people, like yourself, look on and do nothing!
Lmao yeah and your attitude, "I want to fucking kill, fucking, everyone, fucking die die die, god damn I hate the world, fuck stupid laws, bla bla bla" really helps a lot too LOL!!! :rolleyes:
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-02-2006, 06:53 AM
yeah, that's my anger and impaitence of the world, you dont see me actually KILLING anyone, do you?
im trying to organize something here, im trying to get something done, and ranting and raving about how shitty things are seems to help open people's eyes, i just tend to add my own heartfelt passion to it by adding little tidbits of death to world leaders and law enforcers.
in an actual situation, i sincerely doubt i'd inflict any harm upon anyone who hasnt already attacked me.
BaseRSX
01-02-2006, 07:00 AM
If you really want to try to change something you are going about it all the wrong way. No one is going to listen to some one that comes off as a blathering idiot like you do. You need to chill out, relax, and try to accomplish things peacefully. You attitude just re-enforces all those peoples dislike for drugs like pot. Pot makes me happy and mellow, so why would I want to become belligerent about trying to change its laws?? You need to read some Henry David Thoreau.
Good luck!
likemclever
01-02-2006, 03:44 PM
You need to read some Henry David Thoreau.
Good luck!
ha ha :thumbsup:
CrAzYpOtHeAd
01-02-2006, 03:48 PM
Yeah, fuck those assholes. hey took our freedom. Who is to choose what i put in my body and what i do? You fuckers. Its my life, not your. Gaaaaar.
If the whole world (like, every avarge joe) teamed up against the goverment, do you think we could win a war?
Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-06-2006, 05:12 AM
i give up, im just bashing my head against a brick wall, i'll sooner get something done here if i just stop trying and let god smite those who impose upon free will :(
but no, i'll never give up, im going to fight this untill i die, but i can clearly see that i wont get adequate support here, let alone online at all.
in practice, i may have given up, but im still going to push it as much as possible.
give me liberty or give me death!
pabloescobar209
01-06-2006, 02:00 PM
I AM FUCKING SERIOUS HERE!!!
if you people DO NOT care about freedom, if you do not care about our government constantly succeding in taking away our freedoms, if you do not believe in being self sufficient, and stop relying on the government, DIE.
those of you who want to continue to rely on big corperations for materialistic things you want, DIE.
i am SICK and FUCKING tired of hearing about how some stoner got sentenced to life for selling a nug to his kid neighbor!
i am SICK AND FUCKING TIRED! why do we have to treat free will with prejudicy?!? why is it wrong for a person to smoke some crack, take LSD, or get stoned?!? why do you have to make preemptive strikes against people for the fear that they might break a law under the influence?!?
the only logical solution is to give harsher sentences to those under the influence, fuck the substance, they CHOSE to take it, they can SUFFER the consequences of their own ACTIONS thereafter, but if they dont act, they get high as fuck on crack, and dont DO anything, WHAT DID THEY GET ARRESTED FOR?!?
we MUST do anything and EVERYTHING we can to fight back! we cant just let the feds walk all over us anymore!!!
why do you not care about freedom?!?
why are you not protecting your rights?!?
im not going to go down a one man army and look like a derranged lunatic!!! :mad:
no... no, you know what? fuck it, i dont need anyone's help in organizing a successful revolution, i'll just hitch a ride to DC and assassanate the president with a pistol[/sarcasm]
its not the feds, its the media and our society... and we ourselves are to blame... the government might have made up reffer madness, but we bought it
VoidLivesOn
01-06-2006, 11:51 PM
Well were all humans.All made of cells,blood,bones etc...
Its the train of thought that sets us all off in different ways.
But if we made rules and laws to regulate the way people think then we can force them to join us!
Oh wait...
Wesley Pipes
01-07-2006, 12:53 AM
i did, they arent helping, they helpped ruin it, they deserve to die too, they werent putting forth their lives to protect freedom.
no-offence but u kinda sound like ur gonna go out and massacre innocent ppl there, peace to all
Jeff Spicoli
01-07-2006, 12:58 AM
I got an idea... if you are so unhappy with the world you live in, just go kill yourself, dirty hippy
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