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Reefer Rogue
12-11-2005, 03:00 PM
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread21371.shtml

United Kingdom -- Tony Blair is planning a controversial U-turn on cannabis laws and the reintroduction of tough penalties after an official government review found a definitive link between use of the drug and mental illness.
The Independent on Sunday can reveal that the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) has detailed evidence showing cannabis triggers psychosis in regular users. The findings are expected be used by Mr Blair to overturn the decision made two years ago to downgrade the drug. The reports makes it "an open door" for ministers to change the law, according to one official.

Mr Blair is keen to reverse the controversial decision to downgrade its status from B to C, taken by David Blunkett. His successor as Home Secretary, Charles Clarke, asked the Government's official advisory body to reassess the classification of the drug after a public outcry.

A senior Whitehall aide said: "There is no barrier to reclassification of cannabis on the grounds of political embarrassment. This was David Blunkett's decision, not something agreed by the Cabinet."

Pressure for a U-turn will intensify once the ACMD report is published. It will detail evidence that varieties of "skunk", high-strength strains of cannabis, can cause psychosis in some people and that cannabis can exacerbate the condition of users who are already mentally ill.

The Home Secretary will announce his official decision on the classification next month. Officials say he is "minded" to restore the drug's original B rating. Obstacles to a U-turn remain, however, particularly the attitude of the police. Ministers must overcome police fears that it will reduce their ability to focus on class A drugs such as heroin.

Most senior officers supported the original decision to downgrade because it helped them to focus on class A drugs.

The original decision to drop cannabis's status to C also reflected advice that it carries a lower risk of addiction and health-related problems than other drugs. However, fresh studies have since indicated that there is a strong link between the drug and "psychotic symptoms".

A Danish study published in the British Journal of Psychiatry found that almost half of patients treated for a cannabis-related mental disorder went on to develop a schizophrenic illness. People who had used the drug developed schizophrenia earlier than those with the illness who had not smoked marijuana.

In light of these new warnings, Mr Clarke asked the ACMD in March this year to review the classification of cannabis. The committee took evidence from police, mental health campaigners and drugs education charities. One area of investigation has been the harms of new strains of cannabis known as "skunk", which have high levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) - the chemical which gives users a "high".

Although the ACMD does not believe that the health risks justify cannabis being moved back to class B, it does draw attention in its report to the health impacts of a rise in the use of skunk, which has been fuelled by increasing numbers of people growing their own marijuana.

Despite reports that cannabis use is rising, official figures show that use among 16- to 24-year-olds has gradually fallen over the past seven years.

Although it is a class C drug, cannabis possession, production and supply are still illegal, although the penalties have been reduced.

The maximum penalty for possession has been reduced to two years' imprisonment. Most offences of cannabis possession now result in a warning and confiscation of the drug.

Note: Experts reveal definitive link between drug and mental illness, paving way for rethink on lenient penalties.

Source: Independent (UK)
Author: Sophie Goodchild and Francis Elliott
Published: December 11, 2005
Copyright: 2005 Independent Newspapers (UK) Ltd.
Contact: [email protected]
Website: http://www.independent.co.uk/

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ScarlettCrush
12-11-2005, 03:03 PM
I hope Mr. Blair gets cataracts or something else that MJ cures like magic.
Protest, write letters, try something and let dude know ya'll are not cool with the U turning thing.

Miggoll
12-11-2005, 03:11 PM
God that man should be shot :mad: :mad: :mad:

jahjahjahjah
12-11-2005, 03:13 PM
Our damn prime minister,Blairs fucking up everything.

jahjahjahjah
12-11-2005, 03:13 PM
LONG LIVE THE QUEEN.

xNoa
12-11-2005, 03:29 PM
well ive seen this said loads over the last year and nothings happened, to be honest i cant honestly imagine it is going to, i pray anyway..

Reefer Rogue
12-11-2005, 03:31 PM
With this news and that story about the Netherlands only going to serve Dutch people it doesn't seem good. :(

xNoa
12-11-2005, 03:33 PM
that story about the Netherlands only going to serve Dutch people
nah thats bollocks

Reefer Rogue
12-11-2005, 03:35 PM
Hopefully.

stangle12
12-11-2005, 03:57 PM
aaahhh now you ahve something to dislike YOUR leader over. Welcome to the world of GEORGE BUSH. i ENVY those under mr. blair. i gaurentee you changing the law of cannibus wont KILL 2000 people. bastards.

motahead
12-11-2005, 03:59 PM
Not that anyone would take a boat over there.

But England's proximity to the holy land of ganja is enough to make anyone envious.

Whatever...they still can't stop people. It's the same in the US.

Alcohol causes mental illness too. So do cigarettes. So does life in general.

darkside
12-11-2005, 04:04 PM
i think bush and blair are butt buddies and i think blair is on the receiving end.

darkside
12-11-2005, 04:07 PM
when they do these studies that say cannabis causes mental illnes, i bet they dont do a control group with alcohol or other drugs. alcohol, meth, coke and heroin are ten times more likely to cause these problems than weed.

Miggoll
12-11-2005, 04:14 PM
aaahhh now you ahve something to dislike YOUR leader over. Welcome to the world of GEORGE BUSH. i ENVY those under mr. blair. i gaurentee you changing the law of cannibus wont KILL 2000 people. bastards.

Tony Blair has always been disliked (by me anyway!) this is just anouther fuck up from his many.

jahjahjahjah
12-11-2005, 04:23 PM
i think bush and blair are butt buddies and i think blair is on the receiving end.
Blairs the catcher alright. LOL good one

zomby
12-11-2005, 04:24 PM
Blair was a pop singer and you can bet he has toked his share in the past. Hypocrite.

psychopixi
12-11-2005, 04:28 PM
I don't get why they want to upgrade cannabis again, yes, studies have shown that blah, blah, blah but I think that the only good reason for upgrading it would be if they could magickally produce statistics which showed that cannabis use affected non-users adversely - like if stoners shoplifted / vandalised / got in fights, more than people who're under no drugs / drunk. It may be proved to be bad for your health, but so many other things are too, why crack down on cannabis? Why've they singled it out? Why no try to ban alcohol instead? Or fast food?

3 Sheets To The Wind
12-11-2005, 04:29 PM
A Danish study published in the British Journal of Psychiatry found that almost half of patients treated for a cannabis-related mental disorder went on to develop a schizophrenic illness.

Yeah, probably out of the two people that had cannabis-related mental disorders, one of them was a schizophrenic.

Fuck Bush, fuck Blair, get the fuckin' gun!

3 Sheets To The Wind
12-11-2005, 04:30 PM
All this research is going on, and it was only a few weeks ago that the amount you could carry without being a "dealer" went up to 4oz. ... Something's terribly wrong!

jahjahjahjah
12-11-2005, 04:31 PM
Oh my crumpets and tea!!!!!!!!!!! what is happining to this wold (ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhh)

xNoa
12-11-2005, 04:36 PM
All this research is going on, and it was only a few weeks ago that the amount you could carry without being a "dealer" went up to 4oz. ... Something's terribly wrong!
yes i completely forgot about that
what the fuck is going on with this country mate, STOP FUCKING AROUND AND MAKE UP UR FUCKING MINDS, IT DOSENT EFFECT 90% OF US ANYWAY WERE STILL GONNA BLAZE WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

jahjahjahjah
12-11-2005, 04:43 PM
There was a show about that research on pot tv, they interviewed kids that say- im addicted to cannabis, and if i dont have a spliff i get mad and cant sleep.One kid said i hear voices talking to me, having the most random conversations.They said the popular strain most common in the UK is Skunk, this strain is said to cause serious mental health issues in young people-psychotic,skitzophrenic,demented and poluted kids claim that cannabis is the main cause of there mental health problems.

Reefer Rogue
12-11-2005, 07:16 PM
The government goes on about skunk like it's the strongest thing ever made. It's strong but there are defiantely stronger strains. Plus, the more potent it is the less you'll smoke of it. (Theoretically)

robert42
12-11-2005, 07:19 PM
lemme say this they ALWAYS talk about this to take heat of other things like at the moment the hostage in iraq forget bout him lets talk abotu SKUNK (WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS) ppl act like this shit is new

its the same
shit wont change
same shit
new day

;)

3 Sheets To The Wind
12-11-2005, 07:22 PM
lemme say this they ALWAYS talk about this to take heat of other things like at the moment the hostage in iraq forget bout him lets talk abotu SKUNK (WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND FOR YEARS) ppl act like this shit is new

its the same
shit wont change
same shit
new day

;)

You always fill me with hope, always saying nothing will happen, and it never does, so cool man :D

But yeah, why would stronger strains cause more psychosis? If you smoke strong stuff you'll get just as high as if you smoke shitty stuff (if you smoke enough) so techincally, however high you get, the more chance of psychosis there is...

Blair needs to be shot in the ass... teach him a lesson!

xNoa
12-11-2005, 10:12 PM
But yeah, why would stronger strains cause more psychosis? If you smoke strong stuff you'll get just as high as if you smoke shitty stuff (if you smoke enough) so techincally, however high you get, the more chance of psychosis there is...

its to do with the THC content, not how high you get from smoking however much
the word 'skunk' in british media now basically means high potentcy cannabis, which is pretty much either decent homegrown or 99% of the shit they smoke in amsterdam, its still EXACTLY the same plant as has been smoked for however many thousands of years, but i think i can safely say its become more available in england recently(40 or so years), with more homegrown about etc.
i cant be bothered debating it actually, but i do think strong weed can be quite dangerous on developing brains, although the government do exaggerate alot(or just dont know what theyre on about)
why cant people just tell the truth?? legalise, educate and medicate :)

Whos Carl
12-11-2005, 10:14 PM
All this talk about cannabis makes me want to spark up.

LOVElife
12-11-2005, 10:16 PM
Even if it does change, Shit wont change me!

Even as a Class B it would still carry the same risks as if it was a Class C!

FUCK our Government. . . Bunch of Clowns the lot of them!!

chisme
12-11-2005, 11:18 PM
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread21371.shtml

United Kingdom -- Tony Blair is planning a controversial U-turn on cannabis laws and the reintroduction of tough penalties after an official government review found a definitive link between use of the drug and mental illness.
The Independent on Sunday can reveal that the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD) has detailed evidence showing cannabis triggers psychosis in regular users. The findings are expected be used by Mr Blair to overturn the decision made two years ago to downgrade the drug. The reports makes it "an open door" for ministers to change the law, according to one official.

Mr Blair is keen to reverse the controversial decision to downgrade its status from B to C, taken by David Blunkett. His successor as Home Secretary, Charles Clarke, asked the Government's official advisory body to reassess the classification of the drug after a public outcry.

A senior Whitehall aide said: "There is no barrier to reclassification of cannabis on the grounds of political embarrassment. This was David Blunkett's decision, not something agreed by the Cabinet."

Pressure for a U-turn will intensify once the ACMD report is published. It will detail evidence that varieties of "skunk", high-strength strains of cannabis, can cause psychosis in some people and that cannabis can exacerbate the condition of users who are already mentally ill.

The Home Secretary will announce his official decision on the classification next month. Officials say he is "minded" to restore the drug's original B rating. Obstacles to a U-turn remain, however, particularly the attitude of the police. Ministers must overcome police fears that it will reduce their ability to focus on class A drugs such as heroin.

Most senior officers supported the original decision to downgrade because it helped them to focus on class A drugs.

The original decision to drop cannabis's status to C also reflected advice that it carries a lower risk of addiction and health-related problems than other drugs. However, fresh studies have since indicated that there is a strong link between the drug and "psychotic symptoms".

A Danish study published in the British Journal of Psychiatry found that almost half of patients treated for a cannabis-related mental disorder went on to develop a schizophrenic illness. People who had used the drug developed schizophrenia earlier than those with the illness who had not smoked marijuana.

In light of these new warnings, Mr Clarke asked the ACMD in March this year to review the classification of cannabis. The committee took evidence from police, mental health campaigners and drugs education charities. One area of investigation has been the harms of new strains of cannabis known as "skunk", which have high levels of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) - the chemical which gives users a "high".

Although the ACMD does not believe that the health risks justify cannabis being moved back to class B, it does draw attention in its report to the health impacts of a rise in the use of skunk, which has been fuelled by increasing numbers of people growing their own marijuana.

Despite reports that cannabis use is rising, official figures show that use among 16- to 24-year-olds has gradually fallen over the past seven years.

Although it is a class C drug, cannabis possession, production and supply are still illegal, although the penalties have been reduced.

The maximum penalty for possession has been reduced to two years' imprisonment. Most offences of cannabis possession now result in a warning and confiscation of the drug.

Note: Experts reveal definitive link between drug and mental illness, paving way for rethink on lenient penalties.

Source: Independent (UK)
Author: Sophie Goodchild and Francis Elliott
Published: December 11, 2005
Copyright: 2005 Independent Newspapers (UK) Ltd.
Contact: [email protected]
Website: http://www.independent.co.uk/

Discuss:



let me ease all of your minds the fact is that 75 -89 % percent of skunk sold in london is grown in london yes its true only a small amount of our skunk is imported from dam or mex also if the read at the bottom of the article it has links to 2 diffrent articles reporting about the huge boom in people growing at home even if bastard wankfaced arse licking shit chatting ballsac tony fucking blaiiiiir gets his way the drugs will still be there

chisme
12-11-2005, 11:18 PM
im living proof homegrown is on the increase

passit420
12-12-2005, 12:41 AM
that sucks. hopefully it wont go thru.