The 4th dimension

[mellow mood]

I was talkin about this with my friends yesterday when i was drunk

I think that the 4th dimension is music, isnt it? it combines the 3 dimensions, and it litterally bring you in another world. it makes u feel so much emotions. when u feel bad u just listen to music.

everybody listen to music. it always existed and will always exist. definitly music is my life, music is so much.

anybody thinks like me?

[HeLTeR.SKeLTeR]

I sure agree, old tribes used music and dancing as religious rituals. Music is an escape out the real world, when your playing a gig or something its like becoming someone else.


music rules, fucking live 4ever!

[ADaisyChain]

lenght, height, width, and the fourth dimension which combines the three.. music.

lol, sorry no. But yeah music is really cool and definately important.

[stangle12]

the 4th demension is time...
but music can be the 5th!

[mellow mood]

lenght, height, width, and the fourth dimension which combines the three.. music.

lol, sorry no. But yeah music is really cool and definately important.

i was talkin about time, space and matter... omg

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

i was talkin about time, space and matter... omg


the 4th demension is time...
but music can be the 5th!


Aww, lol

[robert42]

this posts makes me want to loose my anal virginity to a stick of celery

[3 Sheets To The Wind]

this posts makes me want to loose my anal virginity to a stick of celery

It'll only sting for a few hours afterwards, well worth it, IMHO :)

[CocaCola]

Space Time and Matter? And Music? First off, music isn't as importent as any of those things. And Matter by definition isn't a dimension...

But music is still cool though. One of the best things... ever.

[stangle12]

we only know of 4 demensions. according to the string theory of physics theres 8. so what would the rest be? i think one of them is Life. I think there is a measurable force of life that is demensionable. and im not trying to sound like obi one

[ADaisyChain]

i was talkin about time, space and matter... omg

lol, dont be omg'n me.

sorry. Its early, I haven't put on my thinking cap yet. :cool:

[CocaCola]

According to string theory, there could be up to like 10 or something. And maybe even beyond that... Doesn't string theory suggest that anything is possible? Big step, science dudes.

and yeah, I think space should replace time as the fourth dimension as that is where spacial dimensions ya know... come into play. Time (As someone here mentioned in another thread) is an illusion, because time exists only because we can't experience everything at once. but then does space only exist because we can't be everywhere at once? I don't know... it's only a theory!

[stangle12]

whenever somebody says omg. i cant help but think of jessica simpson anymore. it totaly killed omg for me. all i hear is Oh my gah

[stangle12]

the string theory basicly presents that the core of everything we know is little vibrating strings. but theoreticly by somehow producing such vibratioins, many areas of physics could be controlled

[Up In Smoke 420]

I was searching google once and I got some really cool stuff just put in '4th dimension'.

[stangle12]

search for a "tesseract" that is a 4 demensional cube.kinda cool.

[AcidFreak]

I can see why you had to be drunk to think of this. :D

[CocaCola]

the string theory basicly presents that the core of everything we know is little vibrating strings. but theoreticly by somehow producing such vibratioins, many areas of physics could be controlled
Yes, I have a little understanding of string theory... though you have to know alot about physics and stuff to get it all. Do you know anything more about it, because I am very interested in learning.

[Up In Smoke 420]

^^Yeah that's what I got it's cool looking and makes you think.

Edit: I'm talking about the cube thing.

[stangle12]

i did alittle reading on string theory last year. its nucking futs. its hard as hell to comprehend but even harder to explain lol. i dont think i have a good enough understanding of it myself. it blows my mind though.,

edit: yeah, we learned how to make tesseracts in my CAD class. fun stuff

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

lol yeah, music combines time space and matter alright :D

does that mean the music in my head makes me a 5-D being? :eek:

[stangle12]

no it makes you unstable. but thats ok

[hank]

1st dimension: train tracks
2nd direction: field
3rd dimension: airplane flying
4rth dimension: time machine

5th dimension
?

Am i right?

[CocaCola]

It does mine, as well. I was talking to my friend about it... and he was blown away too! If you could adapt to see or sense these vibrations, then in theory, you could see another place through your wall or through the bumps in your ceiling. It's beyond molecules, as these strings are supposedly even smaller then atoms. So small that they are not even zero dimension. (a dot in the fabric of space) Crazy shit. And if science is now suggesting that anything can be percieved differently by different people and that telepathy is actually plausible or that anything is possible or whatever, then damn... that just explains everything.


1st dimension: train tracks
2nd direction: field
3rd dimension: airplane flying
4rth dimension: time machine

5th dimension
?

Am i right?

Almost. But I don't think you could go down a train track in the first dimension... as there is no forward. Without the "2nd" and "3rd" there is no depth of perception.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

no it makes you unstable. but thats oklol :D

unstable? really? that's a bit harsh dont you think?


edit:
okay, yes, i am unstable, but that's besides the point.

[stangle12]

kinda
1st: a dot
2nd: a line/field
3rd: a cube/airline flying
4th: a demension through time. (thats hard to understand)

[stangle12]

lol :D

unstable? really? that's a bit harsh dont you think?

yeah, im sorry.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

dont be, it's true :D no harm done :D

wow... got any links to string theorage? :D

[stangle12]

http://superstringtheory.com/basics/index.html

[CocaCola]

0: A dot
1: A line (Width... but "Width" can not exist without the others)
2: A square (Length... put that together with Width and you have depth perception. EDIT: Correction... No it doesn't.)
3: A cube (3D... there is a foward, a backward, a left & right and an up and down... plus inbetween or the dot in the middle... or rather the end... or is it the beginning? But the end and/or beginning is impossible to describe as we don't know where or what it is.
4: Time (Disputable)
5: Space (Disputable)
6: Matter (Appearntly, it's believed that this is a dimension)

[CocaCola]

4th: a demension through time. (thats hard to understand)

All knowing? Without time, you exist indefinitely... so you can know everything and anything and be everywhere.

Maybe time is the fourth dimension... or maybe space is? Maybe space exists so that matter can exist within it. So maybe time is the fifth dimension?

[flamingskullballs]

no...you are as wrong as one can be...mwahahaha

there are, literally, millions of dimensions, layered upon eachother...but the four main dimensions are:

length, width, depth, time

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

wooh tough to grasp lol i'll have to look into this more some time...

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

okay, so music is up to demension 7. well, when we pick a demension that music is on, let me know :D

[CocaCola]

no...you are as wrong as one can be...mwahahaha

there are, literally, millions of dimensions, layered upon eachother...but the four main dimensions are:

length, width, depth, time
I am aware of that concept... but I find it to far fetched for me to comprehend so I stick with the MAIN ones. And not the ones I can have no grasp on.


okay, so music is up to demension 7. well, when we pick a demension that music is on, let me know :D

Well, what does sound exist on?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

0-D: mind
1-D: dot
2-D: line, square, circle, triangle
3-D: cube, visual
4-D: time/space/matter
5-D: space/matter/time
6-D: matter/time/space
7-D: sound, chaos
8-D: Music, Order

[lateralus]

the 4th demension is time...
but music can be the 5th!
My friend was once obsessed with how to "cube a cube". I mean.. dude wouldn't shut up about it. When a square makes the transition to a cube, another dimension is added. Thus we're at three dimensions. So how would we 'cube a 'cube'? Well, the only logical thing I could decide to do is to attempt to figure out what the fourth dimension is, which is commonly accepted as time, no? So I draw a square on paper to illustrate it, along with a cube, and a second cube (with rust on it, heh.) to illustrate the fourth dimension. But could the fourth dimension really be time, when, since the moment I drew the square on the paper, it began to age?

The relation between time and the third dimension isn't quite the same as the relation between the third dimension and the second. A four-dimensional cube, technically called a tesseract (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesseract), would have an extra dimension at 90° angles to the three dimensions we know, just like the third dimension in a cube is at 90° angles to both dimensions in the square. You might be interested in reading Flatland (http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/97), a classic 19th century work describing a square in a 2D world that discovers the third dimension.Great topic. I stick firm to my belief that time applies to all things physical, and therefore could not be the fourth dimension. Music, though? Too specific. Sound is a good idea, however.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

music is the dominant demension, order, sound is the combining demension, chaos.

give chaos harmonics, and you have musical order out of chaotic sound.

[lateralus]

Why should an organized version of sound deserve its own dimension?

[stangle12]

lets take it a step further and just add qua ntum electrodynamics into the mix!

[CocaCola]

That is what I was gonna say, but I didn't want to challange anyone's crazy theories, cause no one did mine. >.>

How is order a dimension? I don't understand these 6th and 7th and 8th dimensions.

People are taking it too far!1

[stangle12]

sound is nothing more then compressions of air...not really a demension. you can't have sound without air.

[lateralus]

Hm. The fourth dimension: the quality of being tangible. Space/matter. Three dimensional cubes are on paper, and you can't put your hand in it. You can't shake it or touch it.

[stangle12]

sorry i dont have time to organize my thoughts. i got enough on my plate studying for my physics final.

[CocaCola]

sound is nothing more then compressions of air...not really a demension. you can't have sound without air.
Yes. If sound is it's own dimension then why isn't light? These are all physical things existing in 3D space.

I think Stoner Wolf is just all crazy and high!

[lateralus]

Yes. If sound is it's own dimension then why isn't light? These are all physical things existing in 3D space.

I think Stoner Wolf is just all crazy and high!Yeah, sound and light couldn't have their own dimension; they're affected by the other dimensions.

1. dot
2. square
3. cube
4. space, tangible
5. energy (which generates movement, which enables sound/light)

[flamingskullballs]

dot cannot be a dimension, exept in video games maybe...

the dot would have to be the smallest thing possible, which is impossible...you can always go smaller...even the "dot" would have length and width at least...its not physically possible to have something so small that its the first dimension, or a "dot"

[CocaCola]

4, like I said... if you transend 4, you can experience anything and everything. Tangiblity is only restricted to imagaination, right? Errr...

And also, energy... excellent. I didn't take that into consideration... this is what makes up everything as a whole. Everything connected... all one... string theory.


dot cannot be a dimension, exept in video games maybe...

the dot would have to be the smallest thing possible, which is impossible...you can always go smaller...even the "dot" would have length and width at least...its not physically possible to have something so small that its the first dimension, or a "dot"

True. But then where does everything begin? If you keep going in a straight line, you'll just end up where you where, right? So maybe that is what it is? time, in essence, is the zero dimension?

[lateralus]

So maybe that is what it is? time, in essence, is the zero dimension?I like that. Well, are the dimensions an effort to classify everything in existence? Time is merely an attribute of all things.. it could not possibly be any higher up in the dimensions than.. well.. anything. Can it be construed as a building block of existence? As soon as a dot comes into existence, it begins to age, so that obviously rules out time as the fourth dimension.

Without time, everything would exist in one moment. If everything did exist in only one moment, we wouldn't be able to think, to react, because those both require some time (and energy) to occur. Energy couldn't exist. Movement would be nonexistent (it takes two moments for an object to move from point A to point B). And since everything would only last for one moment, if there were not two moments (time), the dot would only exist for one. Everything would be gone by nanosecond two.

So there is no doubt that time exists, but can it be construed as the zero dimension? Time is not necessary for the dot to exist, but it is for the dot to last.

[lateralus]

I was thinking that time should be the first dimension, but no, because it isn't necessary to build the dot, but only to sustain it.

Edit: No, then again.. a dot can be sustained, if everything existed in one moment. But, as I've said before, that is impossible. This is confusing as hell.
string theory.A very good friend of mine mentioned the string theory while we were discussing this very subject a few weeks ago. I haven't read anything about it though.

Oh well, I love philosophy, but it saddens me that it's a dead end subject. Will we ever find truth? Doubtful. Maybe posterity, millions of years from now, will receive some sort of divine enlightenment from our extraterrestrial neighbors. :)

[CocaCola]

Life is just a big joke... there ya go!

[marylanddude2005]

Actually string theory will be eventually proven or disproven, it's not pie-in-the-sky at all.

A good summary of string theory is in the book and Nova series "The Elegant Universe." I'm not a math guy but I understood the book (no math, hooray!) and found it pretty interesting.

[mrdevious]

the 4th demension is time...



geez, every time we have one of these threads (anywhere) somebody says that, in those exact words, without any explanation as to how. just because they heard it somewhere.

[flamingskullballs]

i like the thought of WHY we exist, not HOW we exist

[lateralus]

i like the thought of WHY we exist, not HOW we existI don't think there is one.

Edit: Well on second thought, wouldn't one answer the other?

[CocaCola]

You can't possibly know why we exist but make a thread about it and discuss is.

[Maui Wowie]

Music is compiled of a mixture of sounds made into a song, it's not an element to the world or anything.

It's just sound, a sense, I don't think a sense can be a dimension.

The enlightened mind can think what it wants for entertainment though.

As big eyes said, the 4th dimension is time, motion of 3D.

[lateralus]

geez, every time we have one of these threads (anywhere) somebody says that, in those exact words, without any explanation as to how. just because they heard it somewhere.:eek:

[flamingskullballs]

i just dont like this dimension shit...one time i tried to record every dimension i thought there was, ended up with over 200...

[flamingskullballs]

Porn is compiled of a mixture of in, out, in, out, made into a movie, it's not an element to the world or anything.

It's just movie, a boner, I don't think a boner can be a dimension.

The enlightened mind can think what it wants for entertainment though.

As big eyes said, the 4th dimension is time, motion of 3D.

:eek:

:thumbsupbutthole:

[lateralus]

i just dont like this dimension shit...one time i tried to record every dimension i thought there was, ended up with over 200...That's because government and anarchy aren't dimensions, you crazy, crazy individuals.

[Maui Wowie]

geez, every time we have one of these threads (anywhere) somebody says that, in those exact words, without any explanation as to how. just because they heard it somewhere.
If anyone mentions something they heard about, you'll be there to complain?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I think Stoner Wolf is just all crazy and high!close enough :D


im well rested now, but sober, so forgive me if i seem like an ass, or stupider than usual, i havent had my morning bowl! :D

[king kong bong]

we cant see certain things cuz we are on different dimensions. crazy cuz things could be right next to us and we wouldnt know bout it.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

or inside of us for that matter lol

if we could see soundwaves... there'd be many inside of us, radiating from us... in fact, i think soundwaves would obsucre your vision of anything else! lol

[beachguy in thongs]

geez, every time we have one of these threads (anywhere) somebody says that, in those exact words, without any explanation as to how. just because they heard it somewhere.

Spacetime
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http://encyclopedia.tfd.com/spacetime

That's where it's from.