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amsterdam
12-09-2005, 02:32 PM
This guy and cindy sheehans message really arent to far off with all the racism and anti-semetic remarks. scary!!

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30200-13475953,00.html

Psycho4Bud
12-09-2005, 07:28 PM
The Jews should be moved to Europe....NOW who should be worrying if Iran becomes a nuclear power? Seems ol' boy has a little hard on with the Euro nations also!

Oneironaut
12-09-2005, 07:34 PM
I completely agree that this guy is a complete asshole for saying these things, but I found it intriguing that in all the news articles I found about this story, not one of them provided a rebuttal to his arguments. They repeated the condemnations of politicians, but they never mentioned why the comments were found to be so objectionable. Not one reason why moving Israel is absurd beyond imagination, not one mention of the evidence we have that shows beyond the shadow of a doubt that the Holocaust occurred. Interesting.

pisshead
12-09-2005, 08:05 PM
as much as an asshole he is for saying it...no one should be put in jail for their opinions on history...

a google search for "jailed questioning holocaust"...

and before the neo-cons declare it...i think this is bullshit...i'm not a holocaust denier.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=jailed+questioning+holocaust

links about holocaust deniers being imprisoned are there...the UN is going to make it a crime as well...

andruejaysin
12-10-2005, 02:59 AM
It's 60 years to late, obviously, but how is he wrong? germans sent all those jews to the gas chambers, seems only right they should lose some land. Why should palestinians get kicked out of their homes? Oh yeah, germans are white, palestinians aren't. What was I thinking?

weirdo79
12-10-2005, 04:16 AM
I've never understood the logic of locking someone up because of their personal ideas, no matter how stupid or wrong they are. After all if they have anyone supporting or following them then its really just a really easy way to find out the intelligence level of an entire organization ;). (this is a joke for those who would take it seriously, the first sentence is genuine bafflement though).

zooted999
12-10-2005, 08:20 PM
My guess is when your the leader of another country with potential access to nuclear arms, it's a bit different than Joe Somebody's opinion.

Psycho4Bud
12-10-2005, 08:43 PM
The way it sounds in this little "history of", this area was a shit hole until the Jews cleaned it up a bit. Who's land did they steal??

http://www.masada2000.org/historical.html

1917-1922

From 1517-1917 Turkey's Ottoman Empire controlled a vast Arab empire, a portion of which is today Lebanon, Syria, and Palestine. During World War I (1914-1918), Turkey supported Germany. When Germany was defeated, so were the Turks. In 1916 control of the southern portion of their Ottoman Empire was "mandated" to France and Britain under the Sykes-Picot Agreement, which divided the Arab region into zones of influence. Lebanon and Syria were assigned (mandated) to France... and "Palestine" (today's Jordan, Israel and "West Bank") was mandated to Great Britain.
Because no other peoples had ever established a national homeland in "Palestine" since the Jews had done it 2,000 years before, the British "looked favorably" upon the creation of a Jewish National Homeland throughout ALL of Palestine. The Jews had already begun mass immigration into Palestine in the 1880's in an effort to rid the land of swamps and malaria and prepare for the rebirth of Israel. This Jewish effort to revitalize the land attracted an equally large immigration of Arabs from neighboring areas who were drawn by employment opportunities and healthier living conditions. There was never any attempt to "rid" the area of what few Arabs there or those Arab masses that immigrated into this area along with the Jews!

1923-1947

In 1923, the British divided the "Palestine" portion of the Ottoman Empire into two administrative districts. Jews would be permitted only west of the Jordan river. In effect, the British had "chopped off" 75% of the originally proposed Jewish Palestinian homeland to form an Arab Palestinian nation called Trans-Jordan (meaning "across the Jordan River"). This territory east of the Jordan River was given to Emir Abdullah (from Hejaz, now Saudi Arabia) who was not even an Arab-"Palestinian!" This portion of Palestine was renamed Trans-Jordan. Trans-Jordan and would again be renamed "Jordan" in 1946. In other words, the eastern 3/4 of Palestine would be renamed TWICE, in effect, erasing all connection to the name "Palestine!" However, the bottom line is that the Palestinian Arabs had THEIR "Arab Palestinian" homeland. The remaining 25% of Palestine (now WEST of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup then nor now.
Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory west of the Jordan River launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron massacres of 1929 and later during the 1936-39 "Arab Revolt." The British at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became painfully clear to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs AND drive out the British.

Oneironaut
12-10-2005, 08:44 PM
True, but how is Iran's president any less trustworthy than our own in that respect? How hypocritical is it for our country, run by a lunatic, to claim the right to nuclear arms and then object so fiercely when another country run by a lunatic wants some nukes? We need to get rid of the double standard here. Either no country gets the right to nukes, or they all do. And frankly, I'd feel a lot safer in a world where none of them did.

Psycho4Bud
12-10-2005, 08:45 PM
True, but how is Iran's president any less trustworthy than our own in that respect? How hypocritical is it for our country, run by a lunatic, to claim the right to nuclear arms and then object so fiercely when another country run by a lunatic wants some nukes? We need to get rid of the double standard here. Either no country gets the right to nukes, or they all do. And frankly, I'd feel a lot safer in a world where none of them did.

What nationality did Bush state we should drive out of existance?