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king kong bong
12-06-2005, 03:21 PM
check it out....

http://www.cam.net.uk/home/nimmann/peace/explosions.htm

beachguy in thongs
12-06-2005, 04:06 PM
Those explosives would have been planted where the planes flew into the buildings, because there wasn't any explosions as the building collapsed, nor were there secondary explosions.

I think the planes were enough to bring the towers down.

xNoa
12-06-2005, 04:08 PM
"he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," "

absolute propaganda rubbish, i saw TWO BIG PLANES fly direct into the towers whats would be the point of a bomb?

maskedpantsman
12-06-2005, 04:10 PM
there was also another theory that missiles were fired into the towers, but that brings to question, what about all the people who supposedly died on the planes?

king kong bong
12-06-2005, 04:20 PM
more....
http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/

king kong bong
12-06-2005, 04:21 PM
http://www.rense.com/general68/911h.htm

http://www.rense.com/general69/bogus.htm

king kong bong
12-06-2005, 04:24 PM
"he writes. "Muslims are (probably) not to blame for bringing down the WTC buildings after all," "

absolute propaganda rubbish, i saw TWO BIG PLANES fly direct into the towers whats would be the point of a bomb?

planes were just for show. explosives were used to bring the buildings down. it didnt look like controlled demolition to you? how did wtc7 just collapse?

beachguy in thongs
12-06-2005, 04:26 PM
I didn't know there was a 7th tower.

The planes caused the fire which melted the steel infrastructure of the building.

king kong bong
12-06-2005, 04:31 PM
http://www.rense.com/general68/poss911.htm

king kong bong
12-06-2005, 04:33 PM
I didn't know there was a 7th tower.

The planes caused the fire which melted the steel infrastructure of the building.

how can you say that when most of the fuel of the plane that hit the south tower burned up on the outside.

xNoa
12-06-2005, 04:35 PM
planes were just for show. explosives were used to bring the buildings down. it didnt look like controlled demolition to you? how did wtc7 just collapse?
why would planes just be for show, wouldnt they just blow it up in the first place instead of hijacking a plane and killing even more innocent people? i cant believe im even arguing this its ridiculous, i in no way support the american(or any)government at all but i do not believe bush would of wanted 3000 random innocent americans to die
your argument is bollocks it would take such a H U G E scandal to cover it up it would be unreal weirdos like u piss me off
and if it is true it will NEVER come out in our life times im sure of that

beachguy in thongs
12-06-2005, 04:43 PM
The planes may have had explosives on them.

If there were bombs in the building, they would've exploded where they were planted. I don't think all of the bombs were planted exactly where the planes hit.

Most of the fuel from the plane burned up outside, meaning the jet exploded before it made contact with the tower? Or are you saying that most of the fuel, from the first jet, landed on the second tower?

Either way, after the planes crashed, the buildings melted. They were constructed using some sort of technique involving the entire building (inside and out) to be threaded with steel. They got hot, one floor toppled onto the other, finally they came straight down. And you didn't see explosions coming out the windows, those were people jumping.

bonsaiguy
12-06-2005, 04:46 PM
Let's not forget that those building were contructed in the great american tradition of giving contracts to the lowest bidder/highest campaign contributor.

beachguy in thongs
12-06-2005, 04:49 PM
I know what they are talking about, but the continual puffs were seen down the entire side of the building, as it collapsed, meaning the entire building would've been lined with explosives.

You should get an engineer in here.

friendowl
12-06-2005, 05:03 PM
i remember that morning.i was stepping out of the shower and as i was drying off i grabbed my bong that was prepacked with some rhino.i was choking to death as i turned on the tv.what i seen was a plane fllying right into a building.i couldnt believe that shit.i seen the footage of people jumping out the windows and it looked horrible.i like chaos but a part of me was jus feeling bad for those cats.it was raining people.and when your that high up and fall you become like a human water balloon.that was the wickedest event ever.you have to give respect to the terrorists.they were no fools

king kong bong
12-06-2005, 05:11 PM
why would planes just be for show, wouldnt they just blow it up in the first place instead of hijacking a plane and killing even more innocent people? i cant believe im even arguing this its ridiculous, i in no way support the american(or any)government at all but i do not believe bush would of wanted 3000 random innocent americans to die
your argument is bollocks it would take such a H U G E scandal to cover it up it would be unreal weirdos like u piss me off
and if it is true it will NEVER come out in our life times im sure of that

think outside the box man, theatrics. terrorist bombing are always sloppy and the bombing of the towers were too perfect. the planes were used so people would buy that bullshit of the fuel melting the steel and having the floors pancake on top of each other. did you read the part about the fbi offices on the 22nd floor? "Here is evidence supplied by the Head of Security of the WTC on network television indicating that the FBI floors (the 22nd, 23rd and 24th floors) of the North Tower -- 70 floors below the crash-bombing impact -- had been devastated and reduced to debris that this same Head of Security himself dug through to get to trapped persons (whom he saved)."

how do you explain that?


Most of the fuel from the plane burned up outside, meaning the jet exploded before it made contact with the tower? Or are you saying that most of the fuel, from the first jet, landed on the second tower?

remember it hit the tower at an angle and when that happened the fuel burned up on the outside of the building. when the first plane hit, all the fuel went inside the building. you get it now?

Nochowderforyou
12-06-2005, 06:18 PM
I don't even know what to think anymore. I know Bush is a dirty motherfucker, but I think, in my opinion, that it didn't surprise me when Usama Laden did this. I think it was a revenge tactic from all the years of U.S military and government, putting their nose where it didn't belong. This isn't the first time U.S government has done this. They are bullies, pure bullies, always wanting to take over a poorer country and make it coorperate America.

So, I don't know what happened. All I saw with my own 2 eyes were horror of people dying, and 2 big ass motherfucking planes driving themselves into these buildings.

Anyways...so, has Bush caught him yet? Oh ya, that's right, the oil. Got to protect that oil instead of giving people answers. There are no true answers, so who knows for sure.

pisshead
12-06-2005, 08:23 PM
http://911research.wtc7.net/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc7.html

http://www.prisonplanet.com/011904wtc7.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=GRI20051202&articleId=1391

a few more good links...

adfsghjn
12-06-2005, 08:31 PM
If you fly a fucking plane into a building, of course it's going to collapse.

eg420ne
12-06-2005, 08:49 PM
If you fly a fucking plane into a building, of course it's going to collapse.
Its funny you should say that, today in Iran a military plane crash into an 10 story apartment building.. It did not collapse. :D

pisshead
12-06-2005, 08:53 PM
building 7 wasn't even hit by a plane...and it collapsed...

Psycho4Bud
12-06-2005, 08:57 PM
building 7 wasn't even hit by a plane...and it collapsed...

Can't even keep this conspiracy bullshit in the politics now your have to bring it to the lounge?? What are you, an Apostle for Alex Jones?

Watch out people!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!

Psycho4Bud
12-06-2005, 09:28 PM
Its funny you should say that, today in Iran a military plane crash into an 10 story apartment building.. It did not collapse. :D


DUDE!!! Where's the comparison?

TEHRAN, Iran (AP) - The wing of a military transport plane â?? loaded with Iranian journalists and trying to make an emergency landing after developing engine trouble â?? clipped the top of a 10-story apartment building, and the plane slammed to earth at the base of the structure, gouging out a huge crater and igniting a major fire. At least 128 people were killed.
http://www.berkshireeagle.com/ci_3284446

BoyNamedSue
12-06-2005, 09:34 PM
obviously none of you have read the 9/11 commission report or the Popular Science issue where all of the points made on that website and others were thrown out and explained by professionals. just myself, as a person who works in fire protection, i can tell you that half that stuff is complete crap.

have any of you seen a building demolition? it takes about 3 months to prep the building, it must be stipped to the steel and it take hundreds of personnel to complete. i think the workers in the WTC would catch on if they saw huge teams of people running around the towers ripping apart walls and wiring explosives. its not as easy as you think.

Irnman
12-06-2005, 10:01 PM
Can't even keep this conspiracy bullshit in the politics now your have to bring it to the lounge?? What are you, an Apostle for Alex Jones?

Watch out people!
THE SKY IS FALLING!!!
Heres psycho4shits again following pisshead around ask him 4 his # psycho4shits..loser

beachguy in thongs
12-06-2005, 10:13 PM
remember it hit the tower at an angle and when that happened the fuel burned up on the outside of the building. when the first plane hit, all the fuel went inside the building. you get it now?
When the second plane hit, it went directly into the building...
I can't remember the first one.

Irnman
12-06-2005, 10:24 PM
I have to tell you all a secret...(911 was such a inside job if you dont recognize that
then all mind-control and subliminal messages and our educational system, has really worked really well for you)...Always 2 side of every story just dont keep on gettin ur info from foxnews, mAnn Coulter or lush Limpballs its just going to make u even more confused....

xNoa
12-06-2005, 10:38 PM
building 7 wasn't even hit by a plane...and it collapsed...
building 7? 1..2.. i saw them go down, never heard of a building 7 though.
and like some1 said u are VERY fucking paranoid u seem trapped in the little bubble of anti government which isnt good fuck them dont let them take over your life, cos when you find out something really important youll most likely be dead before you tell anyone anyway.

Irnman
12-06-2005, 10:42 PM
building 7? 1..2.. i saw them go down, never heard of a building 7 though.
and like some1 said u are VERY fucking paranoid u seem trapped in the little bubble of anti government which isnt good fuck them dont let them take over your life, cos when you find out something really important youll most likely be dead before you tell anyone anyway.
Why dont u read about building 7 lots of info just dont heed every word the govt tells u happened...

pabloescobar209
12-06-2005, 11:00 PM
Let's not forget that those building were contructed in the great american tradition of giving contracts to the lowest bidder/highest campaign contributor.
ur an idiot, those were two of the most well built building ever made... do u realize the force generated by a 747 flying at 200mph, any other building would have came down on impact, the only reason the buildng fell was because when they insulated the steel in the building with fire proofing they never antisipated that there would be a fire of that magnitude( thousands of gallons of jet fuel burning out of control for 2 hrs) and this caused the fire proofing to fail and expose the steel which in these great temps began to buckle and as soon as one floor buckled it caused a chain reaction all the way down...

pabloescobar209
12-06-2005, 11:05 PM
I have to tell you all a secret...(911 was such a inside job if you dont recognize that
then all mind-control and subliminal messages and our educational system, has really worked really well for you)...Always 2 side of every story just dont keep on gettin ur info from foxnews, mAnn Coulter or lush Limpballs its just going to make u even more confused....
hahaha... people like u conspiracy hunters think ur so enlightened, because you read retarted theories and opinions online and then beleive them as fact just because it would make the conspiracy true.. come on now just admit u hate the government and you hope and pray it comes out that bush was behind it or that it was missles and the military used holograms to simulate the planes... its more like a few dudes took over a few planes and flew them into a few buildings, end of story.

Irnman
12-06-2005, 11:07 PM
hahaha... people like u conspiracy hunters think ur so enlightened, because you read retarted theories and opinions online and then beleive them as fact just because it would make the conspiracy true.. come on now just admit u hate the government and you hope and pray it comes out that bush was behind it or that it was missles and the military used holograms to simulate the planes... its more like a few dudes took over a few planes and flew them into a few buildings, end of story.
LOL---All Hail the Govt

pabloescobar209
12-06-2005, 11:09 PM
u people prolly all beleive that theres a conspiracy surrounding JFK... like i could see some of u watching the movie JFK and thinking that must be the true story because its the exact opposite of what the goverment tells us... Oswald killed Kennedy... and terrorists flew planes into the wtc's and pentagon and into the ground in pa...

pabloescobar209
12-06-2005, 11:10 PM
LOL---All Hail the Govt
i wish people like u got throw out of the country or just rounded up and exterminated

Irnman
12-06-2005, 11:11 PM
u people prolly all beleive that theres a conspiracy surrounding JFK... like i could see some of u watching the movie JFK and thinking that must be the true story because its the exact opposite of what the goverment tells us... Oswald killed Kennedy... and terrorists flew planes into the wtc's and pentagon and into the ground in pa...Learn how to spell BELIEVE first.

pabloescobar209
12-06-2005, 11:13 PM
go fuck ur mother, if shes dead... her corpse

Irnman
12-06-2005, 11:14 PM
i wish people like u got throw out of the country or just rounded up and exterminated
I wish the same on you 2----All hail LordChimpinBush

Irnman
12-06-2005, 11:15 PM
go fuck ur mother, if shes dead... her corpse
LOL :thumbsup: Get Mad- you freak -lol

fikusroot
12-06-2005, 11:17 PM
wow, this is the stupidest thing ive ever heard. you all are getting too paranoid. the trade centers could in fact stand up to a plane hitting them and they could even have withstood the high heat. what they couldnt stand was both at the same time. what happened was the steel infastructure was deigned so that the steel rods in the floor were what held up the building. they were coated with a flame retardant material. when the plane hit the debris knocked off some off the flame retardant material expoing the metal and causing them to warp. it looks like a professional demolition job because thats what happened. one floor colapsed onto another which collapsed under the impact of the first floor and so on and so on.

pabloescobar209
12-06-2005, 11:37 PM
wow, this is the stupidest thing ive ever heard. you all are getting too paranoid. the trade centers could in fact stand up to a plane hitting them and they could even have withstood the high heat. what they couldnt stand was both at the same time. what happened was the steel infastructure was deigned so that the steel rods in the floor were what held up the building. they were coated with a flame retardant material. when the plane hit the debris knocked off some off the flame retardant material expoing the metal and causing them to warp. it looks like a professional demolition job because thats what happened. one floor colapsed onto another which collapsed under the impact of the first floor and so on and so on.
Bang hit the nail right on the head

BoyNamedSue
12-06-2005, 11:38 PM
haha you people are ridiculous..."stop getting your info from Fox News"...yet you think www.bushblewupthetowers.com is more credible? please. if you want to talk about the media, the real truth is that, aside from Fox, the world media is as liberal as it gets and likes to criticize America/Bush every chance it can. just look at its coverage of Iraq. if there was any ounce of truth in these allegations, the mass media would be on it like white on rice.

"Men who rely on conspiracy theories are men unable to face the truth"

i challenge anyone who believes in these theories to talk with firefighters (email me with questions if you want), engineers, construction workers, or anyone else who would be an authority on the issue and see what they say. or read the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics where they listed every 9/11 theory ('pod on the plane', demolition, WTC 7, 'buring jet fuel cant melt steel', etc) and all were proven false by real professionals like NASA scientists, not unemployed idiots who create BS websites off info they found off other BS websites...and you guys want to talk about credible information.

Psycho4Bud
12-06-2005, 11:39 PM
Thats way to easy though. You got paranoid conspiracy followers like pissy that "know the truth" and his mindless followers like Irnman.....now this cream of the crop REALLY knows what happened! :thumbsup:

Breukelen advocaat
12-06-2005, 11:40 PM
I was in lower NYC on 9/11, and met an architect on my way home in the subway - soon after the 2nd plane hit. He KNEW that the buildings would collapse well before they went down He even described to me exactly how they would collapse. That blew me away, because EXACTLY what he said happened a little while later.

I wish that they would have used more asbestos when they built it, but thousands of lives still would have been lost.

Psycho4Bud
12-06-2005, 11:41 PM
haha you people are rediculous..."stop getting your info from Fox News"...yet you think www.bushblewupthetowers.com is more credible? please. if you want to talk about the media, the real truth is that, aside from Fox, the world media is as liberal as it gets and likes to criticize America/Bush every chance it can. just look at its coverage of Iraq. if there was any ounce of truth in these allegations, the mass media would be on it like white on rice.

"Men who rely on conspiracy theories are men unable to face the truth"

i challenge anyone who believes in these theories to talk with firefighters (email me with questions if you want), engineers, construction workers, or anyone else who would be an authority on the issue and see what they say. or read the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics where they listed every 9/11 theory ('pod on the plane', demolition, WTC 7, 'buring jet fuel cant melt steel', etc) and all were proven false by real professionals like NASA scientists, not unemployed idiots who create BS websites off info they found off other BS websites...and you guys want to talk about credible information.

Oh no, this group of asswipes tried to tell me that Popular Mechanics was a government ran organization....right along with anybody else that doesn't agree with their stupid shit!

Irnman
12-06-2005, 11:41 PM
Thats way to easy though. You got paranoid conspiracy followers like pissy that "know the truth" and his mindless followers like Irnman.....now this cream of the crop REALLY knows what happened! :thumbsup:
AHHH psycho dont tell on me. i wont do it again, I just dont want to be demoted, please be nice to a fellow brownshirt.

pabloescobar209
12-06-2005, 11:42 PM
haha you people are ridiculous..."stop getting your info from Fox News"...yet you think www.bushblewupthetowers.com is more credible? please. if you want to talk about the media, the real truth is that, aside from Fox, the world media is as liberal as it gets and likes to criticize America/Bush every chance it can. just look at its coverage of Iraq. if there was any ounce of truth in these allegations, the mass media would be on it like white on rice.

"Men who rely on conspiracy theories are men unable to face the truth"

i challenge anyone who believes in these theories to talk with firefighters (email me with questions if you want), engineers, construction workers, or anyone else who would be an authority on the issue and see what they say. or read the March 2005 issue of Popular Mechanics where they listed every 9/11 theory ('pod on the plane', demolition, WTC 7, 'buring jet fuel cant melt steel', etc) and all were proven false by real professionals like NASA scientists, not unemployed idiots who create BS websites off info they found off other BS websites...and you guys want to talk about credible information.

hey another sighn of intelligent life here... good to see

BoyNamedSue
12-06-2005, 11:48 PM
Oh no, this group of asswipes tried to tell me that Popular Mechanics was a government ran organization....right along with anybody else that doesn't agree with their stupid shit!

you cant win. whats interesting is that i read an interveiw with one of the editors from PM that did the issue and he was saying that the original goal was to see if any of these theories held weight (they'd obviously sell a lot of issues if they did), but after looking into them, they realized that all of these theories could easily be proven false. anyone who thinks PM is run by the government is so far gone theres no point in debating with them.

Irnman
12-06-2005, 11:48 PM
hey another sighn of intelligent life here... good to see
You figured out how 2 spell BELIEVE yet?

fikusroot
12-06-2005, 11:51 PM
i mean come on, if your going to get a good conspiricy theory then get one you cant easily disprove.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 12:10 AM
I feel so much better now that you all say no conspiracy...Thanks fellow brownshirts

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 01:07 AM
go ahead and keep up the elitist attitude. but if you continue posting childish things like that without any real facts to support your theories, it just makes you look anything but.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 01:13 AM
Yes sir- Agent Suefag

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 01:17 AM
you proved my point.

if i made a website that explained how Honduras was behind 9/11, youd probably believe that too. sheep.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 01:59 AM
ur the fucking sheeppple boynamefag imean agent suefag---go suck on it hahahahahahahahahah i really dont care about what happen with 911 buttplug so goes fuck ur self girlnamedumbass

maskedpantsman
12-07-2005, 02:02 AM
go ahead and keep up the elitist attitude. but if you continue posting childish things like that without any real facts to support your theories, it just makes you look anything but.

no offense, but, dude, you're the one with the bigass gun in your hand looking like your about to shoot someone you don't agree with.

daZenfmeister
12-07-2005, 02:11 AM
obviously none of you have read the 9/11 commission report or the Popular Science issue where all of the points made on that website and others were thrown out and explained by professionals. just myself, as a person who works in fire protection, i can tell you that half that stuff is complete crap.

have any of you seen a building demolition? it takes about 3 months to prep the building, it must be stipped to the steel and it take hundreds of personnel to complete. i think the workers in the WTC would catch on if they saw huge teams of people running around the towers ripping apart walls and wiring explosives. its not as easy as you think.
Thank you!
Half the people who babble about all this conspiricy bullshit down know wtf they are talking about "It didnt sound like a plane it sounded more like a missile!" well I'm sure everyone who says that has a degree in in aeronotics and knows EXACTLY what a missile sounds like, even throught they've never seen/heard one in there life! Makes me sick how so many people talk out of their asses just to sound smart and educated.

Seag420
12-07-2005, 02:12 AM
with all respect guys, boynamedsue seems to be the only one with any common sense. all i know is on that day a few years ago i saw two aircraft full of innocent people, flown into two massive buildings with innocent people inside, being flown by some nutty muslim fanatics, forget any bullshit theorys about how it was george bush's fault, or americas foriegn policys, or the buildings being rigged with explosives. but believe whatever you want to

maskedpantsman
12-07-2005, 02:14 AM
in all honesty, I have to agree with boynamedsue, but I think it's alright for people to form these conspiricy ideas, you know, freedom of speech.

daZenfmeister
12-07-2005, 02:16 AM
Okay I do believe that it is our fault that we were attacked, you know the CIA probably paid to train the terrorists that hijacked the planes, now THAT isn't bullshit. We were funding Al-Qaeda back in pre bush days.

maskedpantsman
12-07-2005, 02:19 AM
Okay I do believe that it is our fault that we were attacked, you know the CIA probably paid to train the terrorists that hijacked the planes, now THAT isn't bullshit. We were funding Al-Qaeda back in pre bush days.

that's not even an opinion, that's a complete fact

mellow mood
12-07-2005, 02:21 AM
check it out....

http://www.cam.net.uk/home/nimmann/peace/explosions.htm

best "theory"?

2 planes fuckin crashed in these towers

we call that terrorism

it was planned since years

wtf is this lol

Synthesizer Man
12-07-2005, 02:43 AM
Aircraft did hit the tower that day. They were 767's, and not 747's. I don't believe Bush set this up himself, but I do think he knew about it way in advance, and did nothing. And why were all the Jews told not to go to work in the towers on that day?

A lot of fuel would have been lost before the aircraft penetrated the building, but all the fuel in the centre tank (in the fuselage) would have gone into the building. The problem is that standard procedure is to fill the wing tanks first, then the centre tanks, but they usually fill the centre tanks up to balance the aircraft, and there was also a scare where running the fuel pumps on an empty tank will cause the tank to explode because of the flammable vapour in there.

I don't know where these aircraft were originally supposed to be flying to???

Airlines calculate exactly how much fuel is needed for a flight, taking into account wind direction, temperature, altitude and load. They carry extra fuel for a 45 minute diversion. If these were domestic flights then there would have been hardly any fuel in there.

On the subject of high-rise buildings, there have been many fires in China involving tall buildings. Some have collapsed due to heat softening the steel.

There was an incident here many years ago that involved a gas explosion in a block of council flats. It happened high up, but brought all the floors above and below down like a pack of cards. It was a design fault of the building, and despite the firm claiming how safe these buildings were, all gas was banned in council flats for many years.

My favourite conspiracy is the one involving the Pentagon. As there is no footage showing a 757 hitting the building, and no evidence of a plane.

9/11 happened. Its time to move on.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 03:14 AM
9/11 happened. Its time to move on.

my thoughts exactly

Ganj
12-07-2005, 03:26 AM
check it out....

http://www.cam.net.uk/home/nimmann/peace/explosions.htm
that's quite possibly the most paranoid american theory i've heard yet. the explosion of jet fuel had enough power to take down the buildings. many people think that because of the buildings architectural stand-point, that the building should have atleast still been standing, but it's because of the way it's built that it collapsed.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 05:18 AM
This thread got FUUUUUCKKK K upppppedddd...Question...Why were top pentagon officials warn not to fly on 911.
Why was Mayor Willy Brown & Salman Rushdie warn not to fly on 911(LOOK IT UP).
Why was the guy that wired $100,000 dollars to 911 hijacker Mohamned Atta, having breakfast with U.S. Government official(look it up,this really happen).
Why was the Bin-laden family allowed to fly out of America on 911 without being interrogated first.(look it up)
Why was Bush wanting to limited the congressional investigation into 911.
How did Osama Bin Forgotten able to make NORAD to stand down on 911.(look it up)
Why did they(FBI) take the Security Videos from the hotel & gas station that were facing the pentagon.(look it up)
Larry Silverstien the owner of the WTC said on PBS that they pulled building 7.(look it up)
Bush thwarted the FBI from investigating Bin-laden b4 911.
Why did Our govt ignore all the warnings about a terrorist attack about to occur on US soil.(look it up)
Why on Sept 7 2001, did Mr. Jeb Bush feel the need to sign an executive order NO. 01-261(look it up)allowing him to declear martial law in the state of Florida?
Why was bush blocking independent investigators to examine the wreckage of AA flight 77
How about them five Israelis that were arrested on 911.
Why did bush lie about seeing the first plane hit when no video showed up until later....
Like I said i dont care..I was just wondering since you all know everything about everything you all can help me out with these questions.....

3rdEyeVision
12-07-2005, 06:11 AM
if the two towers wasn't setup then how did so many people film it?

mrdevious
12-07-2005, 06:13 AM
if the two towers wasn't setup then how did so many people film it?

because there's countless ferries running tourist trips around it. not to mention there's.... let see..... about 6 or 7 people in that area of new york.

Ganj
12-07-2005, 06:17 AM
This thread got FUUUUUCKKK K upppppedddd...Question...Why were top pentagon officials warn not to fly on 911.
Why was Mayor Willy Brown & Salman Rushdie warn not to fly on 911(LOOK IT UP).
Why was the guy that wired $100,000 dollars to 911 hijacker Mohamned Atta, having breakfast with U.S. Government official(look it up,this really happen).
Why was the Bin-laden family allowed to fly out of America on 911 without being interrogated first.(look it up)
Why was Bush wanting to limited the congressional investigation into 911.
How did Osama Bin Forgotten able to make NORAD to stand down on 911.(look it up)
Why did they(FBI) take the Security Videos from the hotel & gas station that were facing the pentagon.(look it up)
Larry Silverstien the owner of the WTC said on PBS that they pulled building 7.(look it up)
Bush thwarted the FBI from investigating Bin-laden b4 911.
Why did Our govt ignore all the warnings about a terrorist attack about to occur on US soil.(look it up)
Why on Sept 7 2001, did Mr. Jeb Bush feel the need to sign an executive order NO. 01-261(look it up)allowing him to declear martial law in the state of Florida?
Why was bush blocking independent investigators to examine the wreckage of AA flight 77
How about them five Israelis that were arrested on 911.
Why did bush lie about seeing the first plane hit when no video showed up until later....
Like I said i dont care..I was just wondering since you all know everything about everything you all can help me out with these questions.....
are you the fucking secret service?!?! get the hell out of here, snitch!

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:32 AM
are you the fucking secret service?!?! get the hell out of here, snitch!NO**30...Homeland Security!---wanna join? www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/economy & link up to applications

CanaBliss
12-07-2005, 06:42 AM
You know, I am 50/50 on all this shit. Now I don't post much anymore, I just listen now, but this debate has become hot and I will post my opinion....

1. I believe it was real becuz it looked real enuff and the bombs story would play out proportionally right. Secondly, why in gods FUCK would the U.S. (yes, even Bush) kill thousands of innocent people just to "find the guy that did it"????

2. I beleive it was fake becuz the "side-stories" are very believeable and maybe Sadam and Bush "made a deal" in which Bush took down the towers (maybe becuz of population or taxes, not to mention all the illegal communication and proccessing that not even the gov. could handle. And so Bush blamed it on Saddam to ensure cover-up for the public (with Saddam) and to give him many years and finally sentence him into the prison for life situation or else they would interfere anyways and sentence him to death. I mean c'mon, even Saddam isn't stupid enuff to fucking be SO SO cautious and all of a sudden fucking end up in a goddamn dirthole. He isn't stupid enuff to do that. Even if the enemy just spots u ur fucked bcuz the only way to go is up---towards the guns.


Those r my 2 cents. As you can see, I beleive it was fake. If it was not Bush, then maybe I would change my mind.............


And please realize I don't base my opinion purely on Bush....

Ganj
12-07-2005, 07:13 AM
NO**30...Homeland Security!---wanna join? www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/economy (http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/economy) & link up to applications
hmm...homeland security would give me enough experience to begin america's autocracy, ruled by me. sure, i'll look into it and, thanks for the link.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 03:20 PM
obviously none of you have read the 9/11 commission report or the Popular Science issue where all of the points made on that website and others were thrown out and explained by professionals. just myself, as a person who works in fire protection, i can tell you that half that stuff is complete crap.

have any of you seen a building demolition? it takes about 3 months to prep the building, it must be stipped to the steel and it take hundreds of personnel to complete. i think the workers in the WTC would catch on if they saw huge teams of people running around the towers ripping apart walls and wiring explosives. its not as easy as you think.

the 9/11 commission report was just to make money and why do you buy their story without asking any questions?

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 03:26 PM
1. I believe it was real becuz it looked real enuff and the bombs story would play out proportionally right. Secondly, why in gods FUCK would the U.S. (yes, even Bush) kill thousands of innocent people just to "find the guy that did it"????

why not, its all about money. everyone is expendable, to them.

emg
12-07-2005, 03:38 PM
why not, its all about money. everyone is expendable, to them.

out of everyone's answer, i agree with king kong. everyone can say what they want, but it comes down to money, power, and control.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 03:40 PM
so i guess me and irnman are conspiracy nuts then huh? so irnman what do you think, sheep?

pisshead
12-07-2005, 03:54 PM
i used to buy the feds' conspiracy theory of 19 freedom hating hijackers shouting allah who couldn't fly planes...

but that explains so little of the entire spectrum of 9/11...the put options, the warnings not to fly (willie brown, joint chiefs, ashcroft), buildling 7 and larry silverstein admitting they destroyed it with demolition, wtc 1 and 2 turning to dust in mid-air, the power downs of 1 and 2 in the weeks before 9/11...it goes on and on and on and on...

and the freedom hating hijacker conspiracy theory doesn't explain it.

all signs, in my opinion, point to an inside job, a criminal element inside the government...who had a lot more means, motive and opportunity than some 'freedom hating terrorists...'...like a homeland security dictatorship at home, weapons sales to other countries (future enemies)...more federal funding, WAR, oil...lots of motives...more realistic than 'hating freedom'...

if the terrorists hate freedom, who are the terrorists when our government decides you have no 4th amendment anymore in NYC and the government can take your property away without just compensation? or did the muslims make those decisions...

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 04:00 PM
pisshead you are a conspiracy nut cuz you think for yourself. go figure.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 05:56 PM
so i guess me and irnman are conspiracy nuts then huh? so irnman what do you think, sheep?
BAAAAAAAAAAAA Im just a sheep KKB What do i know Boynamegirl said im a sheep so it must be true BAAAAAAAAAA...I know one thing i never believe that 19 cavemen story.. I mean really why did they ignore all the warnings from countless of people & nations... Why did dumbassbush try to stop any investigations into 911.. And the pentagon why only 1 video of what they say is a plane-----come-on the pentagon it has security cameras all over the place... Really the real sheeppple are the ones who believe the govt official conspiracy theory..These people here didnt even know where iraq was on the map until we invaded them, they might not even know what planet we are on unless our govt tells'em... My cat is alot smarter then these fools-- ohh are govt says osama did it so it must be true..

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 05:56 PM
i used to buy the feds' conspiracy theory of 19 freedom hating hijackers shouting allah who couldn't fly planes...

but that explains so little of the entire spectrum of 9/11...the put options, the warnings not to fly (willie brown, joint chiefs, ashcroft), buildling 7 and larry silverstein admitting they destroyed it with demolition, wtc 1 and 2 turning to dust in mid-air, the power downs of 1 and 2 in the weeks before 9/11...it goes on and on and on and on...

and the freedom hating hijacker conspiracy theory doesn't explain it.

all signs, in my opinion, point to an inside job, a criminal element inside the government...who had a lot more means, motive and opportunity than some 'freedom hating terrorists...'...like a homeland security dictatorship at home, weapons sales to other countries (future enemies)...more federal funding, WAR, oil...lots of motives...more realistic than 'hating freedom'...

if the terrorists hate freedom, who are the terrorists when our government decides you have no 4th amendment anymore in NYC and the government can take your property away without just compensation? or did the muslims make those decisions...

still, you continue to list things that have been discussed thousands of times over the last 4 years and have been dissproved by simple science and reason. when someone can bring a real theory to the table, with a real motive, and a real source of information, i think people might be willing to listen to you guys. but when you keep up the same "9/11 In Plane Sight" crap that was tossed out years ago, everyone will just keep rolling their eyes.

and King Kong Bong, are you saying that people who dont believe these theories cant think for themselves? how about you? did you come up with these theories all on your own spending hundreds of hours on scientific research to draw your conclusion? its time to be real with yourself. you got your "theories" from half-rate indy websites and you have the nerve to say they cant think for themselves.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:01 PM
BAAAAAAAAAAAA Im just a sheep KKB What do i know Boynamegirl said im a sheep so it must be true BAAAAAAAAAA...I know one thing i never believe that 19 cavemen story.. I mean really why did they ignore all the warnings from countless of people & nations... Why did dumbassbush try to stop any investigations into 911.. And the pentagon why only 1 video of what they say is a plane-----come-on the pentagon it has security cameras all over the place... Really the real sheeppple are the ones who believe the govt official conspiracy theory..These people here didnt even know where iraq was on the map until we invaded them, they might not even know what planet we are on unless our govt tells'em... My cat is alot smarter then these fools-- ohh are govt says osama did it so it must be true..

until you have your own personal research on how you came up with this stuff or you can cite credible sources....it means nothing.

if bush ignored the warnings, show me the transcripts

if you say the pentagon has so many cameras, tell me how many and where they are

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:01 PM
hey sheepnamedturd why did FBi take the security videos from the hotel & gas station if they have nothing to hide then show'em huh... why did they warn mayor willy brown not to fly on 911

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:04 PM
lookit up fagnamedretard im not wasting my time linking thing up for u to spew the govt talking points

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:05 PM
hey sheepnamedturd why did FBi take the security videos from the hotel & gas station if they have nothing to hide then show'em huh... why did they warn mayor willy brown not to fly on 911

.....they have shown them
:confused:

im trained in emergency response on that level and one of the first steps in the standard operating procedure is to collect video surveillance. the videos kept were shown but were very poor quality. those gas station cameras can barely see across the lot, let alone all the way to the pentagon.

who warned willy brown not to fly on 9/11? to you have a record of this? if not it means nothing.

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 06:07 PM
have any of you seen a building demolition? it takes about 3 months to prep the building, it must be stipped to the steel and it take hundreds of personnel to complete. i think the workers in the WTC would catch on if they saw huge teams of people running around the towers ripping apart walls and wiring explosives. its not as easy as you think.

Good point, but you need to think about this, IF it were true. The U.S government wnats to supposedly blow down the WTC using explosives, but make it look like a plane did it. IF this were true, you think they would do a professional demolition job to ensure everyones safety? No, of course not. This wasn't suppose to be a proffesional job, they didn't strip the metal down as they would fool the people saying the planes did it.

Prep the building? Why would they do that? Look at the carnage, they couldn't make it look too proffesional...they did a sloppy job, fooling people so it didn't look like a normal demolition.

Stripped of steel? Again, why would they do that? Make it look like the planes did it.

Wireless bombs bud, this is the US government and FBI, they can get their hands on things you never even heard of. Small bombs can pack a huge blast.

What I'm saying is, they of course didn't want this to look like a proffesional demolition job, if they did that, they would be caught, obviously. IF this stuff were true, they made it look like a sloppy job on purpose, and blame the planes.

Again, notice the IF'S

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:08 PM
u fuckin liar u fuckin liar...look it up fagnamedbush

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:08 PM
hey sheepnamedturd why did FBi take the security videos from the hotel & gas station if they have nothing to hide then show'em huh... why did they warn mayor willy brown not to fly on 911

nuff' said irnman.

and as for you boynamednaive, i see you with the assault rifle in yuor avatar, fan of the military? your ignorance is perfect, so go join up and die for nothing.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:08 PM
lookit up fagnamedretard im not wasting my time linking thing up for u to spew the govt talking points

showing your intellect (or lack there of) really supports your already piss-poor argument :rolleyes: . this is a waste of your time because you cannot debate.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:11 PM
no because your a fucking idiot retardnamedsue

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 06:11 PM
.....they have shown them
:confused:

You need to read between the lines bro. You are seeing what only the media and television is allowed to show. You are being told by the media and news what is going on in the world. You believe what they tell you, and you shouldn't.

How do you know they showed all of the footage? Were you there? Did you take the tapes out of the machine?

Think for yourself, not what "they" tell you to think.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:12 PM
Good point, but you need to think about this, IF it were true. The U.S government wnats to supposedly blow down the WTC using explosives, but make it look like a plane did it. IF this were true, you think they would do a professional demolition job to ensure everyones safety? No, of course not. This wasn't suppose to be a proffesional job, they didn't strip the metal down as they would fool the people saying the planes did it.

Prep the building? Why would they do that? Look at the carnage, they couldn't make it look too proffesional...they did a sloppy job, fooling people so it didn't look like a normal demolition.

Stripped of steel? Again, why would they do that? Make it look like the planes did it.

Wireless bombs bud, this is the US government and FBI, they can get their hands on things you never even heard of. Small bombs can pack a huge blast.

What I'm saying is, they of course didn't want this to look like a proffesional demolition job, if they did that, they would be caught, obviously. IF this stuff were true, they made it look like a sloppy job on purpose, and blame the planes.

Again, notice the IF'S

what you guys arent getting is that just to make a building crumble the way it did by demolition would require HUGE amounts of labor. there is not such thing as a 'sloppy job' when bringing down one of the biggest buildings in the world. just getting it to fall would be an enormous project.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:14 PM
.....they have shown them
:confused:

im trained in emergency response on that level and one of the first steps in the standard operating procedure is to collect video surveillance. the videos kept were shown but were very poor quality. those gas station cameras can barely see across the lot, let alone all the way to the pentagon.

who warned willy brown not to fly on 9/11? to you have a record of this? if not it means nothing.

are you fuckin kiddin me with this bollocks? you think they would allow a low level lacky like yourself to collect a piece of evidence that incriminates them like that??!!! as for the gas station, are you blind or just completely ignorant? its in plain view. lets not forget bout the highway cam or could that barely see across a lot too?

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:15 PM
You need to read between the lines bro. You are seeing what only the media and television is allowed to show. You are being told by the media and news what is going on in the world. You believe what they tell you, and you shouldn't.

How do you know they showed all of the footage? Were you there? Did you take the tapes out of the machine?

Think for yourself, not what "they" tell you to think.

jesus! ok...where do you get your information sir? do you deduct your conclusions based on your own research?

how do you know they didnt? where you there? did you take the tapes out of the machines? i could easily ask you the same questions. and how the fuck do you know where i get me news?

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:15 PM
Welll ol great boynamedfag prove 2 me that our govt was not in on it, i bet u cant without going to all the news reports that kept inline with the govt official theory

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:16 PM
jesus! ok...where do you get your information sir? do you deduct your conclusions based on your own research?

how do you know they didnt? where you there? did you take the tapes out of the machines? i could easily ask you the same questions. and how the fuck do you know where i get me news?
How the fuk do u know the govt was telling the truth boynamedsuckme can u prove it

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:17 PM
are you fuckin kiddin me with this bollocks? you think they would allow a low level lacky like yourself to collect a piece of evidence that incriminates them like that??!!! as for the gas station, are you blind or just completely ignorant? its in plain view. lets not forget bout the highway cam or could that barely see across a lot too?

first of all, anyone who works for the state doing my job is trained on this. would i take the tapes myself? no, but thats still SOP.

again, if you are so set in your theory. please tell me where the cameras were, what direction they faced, and what your evidence is that the govt. is not showing them all.

and drop the personal shit. im anything but a low level lacky.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:19 PM
How the fuk do u know the govt was telling the truth boynamedsuckme can u prove it


how do you know they werent? i thought this was about your idiotic conspiracy theories...im just waiting for one of you to actually prove something.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:19 PM
first of all, anyone who works for the state doing my job is trained on this. would i take the tapes myself? no, but thats still SOP.

again, if you are so set in your theory. please tell me where the cameras were, what direction they faced, and what your evidence is that the govt. is not showing them all.

and drop the personal shit. im anything but a low level lacky.You tell me were the cameras are u the all knowing one its the fuckin pentagon the most secured place in the world fuckin dumbass

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:20 PM
how do you know they werent? i thought this was about your idiotic conspiracy theories...im just waiting for one of you to actually prove something.well prove it

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:22 PM
4 pages and no one has yet to answer a question in a reasonable way or back their claims with credible sources.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:23 PM
http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/evidence/footage.html

go there and tell me the camera, even if it was a shitty one, couldnt see what hit the pentagon.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:23 PM
I have no idea why the fuk im talking with this dumbshit i dont care. i know our govt is criminal- i dont care if u dont care -go play with yourself boynamedsue

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 06:24 PM
jesus! ok...where do you get your information sir? do you deduct your conclusions based on your own research?

how do you know they didnt? where you there? did you take the tapes out of the machines? i could easily ask you the same questions. and how the fuck do you know where i get me news?

Hey, I'm trying to have a conversation here, and you go around, "NO, that's not right, you are wrong!" Put down the gun, get out of military mode for a minute and chill the fuck out.

I watch the news, then I research it MYSELF. I don't watch the news, say, "they must be right, cause it's on TV". I watch it, research it, and find out for myself. I'm not saying I'm right, but I know I find answers for myself instead of someone telling me answers. I have a mind of my own, unlike you.

So chill out gun man, I can get "me" news where, "me" please. Gun lovin redneck

"This is my rifle, this is my gun...this is for fighting this is for fun"

Irnman
12-07-2005, 06:26 PM
Hey, I'm trying to have a conversation here, and you go around, "NO, that's not right, you are wrong!" Put down the gun, get out of military mode for a minute and chill the fuck out.

I watch the news, then I research it MYSELF. I don't watch the news, say, "they must be right, cause it's on TV". I watch it, research it, and find out for myself. I'm not saying I'm right, but I know I find answers for myself instead of someone telling me answers. I have a mind of my own, unlike you.

So chill out gun man, I can get "me" news where, "me" please. Gun lovin redneck

"This is my rifle, this is my gun...this is for fighting this is for fun"
there is intelligent life here

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:28 PM
Hey, I'm trying to have a conversation here, and you go around, "NO, that's not right, you are wrong!" Put down the gun, get out of military mode for a minute and chill the fuck out.

I watch the news, then I research it MYSELF. I don't watch the news, say, "they must be right, cause it's on TV". I watch it, research it, and find out for myself. I'm not saying I'm right, but I know I find answers for myself instead of someone telling me answers. I have a mind of my own, unlike you.

So chill out gun man, I can get "me" news where, "me" please. Gun lovin redneck

"This is my rifle, this is my gun...this is for fighting this is for fun"

everyone keeps saying things similar to this...

"quit listening to what the media tells you, think for yourself"

but really, none of you think any more for yourselves than i do. you think CNN is lying to me, and they very well could be. but that doesnt mean that your source isnt lying to you. we could play this game forever.

unless one does the research themselves, one cannot claim to base their decisions off their own thought.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:28 PM
yea man quit being such a stooge.

clear the way mugs
12-07-2005, 06:29 PM
i wish people like u got throw out of the country or just rounded up and exterminated

its people like you thats easily brainwashed, join the army and go to war for the corrupt governments.

and boynamedguylover we all know thats a super soaker 800 so stop thinkin your gi joe extreme

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:29 PM
well whatever the theory was, it was definitely an inside job and i dont wanna hear shit about it.

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 06:29 PM
4 pages and no one has yet to answer a question in a reasonable way or back their claims with credible sources.

There is NOOOO creditable source. Hard to trust anything, or anyone.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:32 PM
whats your gi joe ass doing on this site in the first place? doing recon?

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:32 PM
and boynamedguylover stop thinkin you gi joe with that super soaker of yours

talk that shit over the internet...your hardcore buddy :rolleyes:

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 06:34 PM
talk that shit over the internet...your hardcore buddy :rolleyes:

Hey now, you're the one who feels the need to post a picture of yourself holding a gun. What point are YOU trying to prove with that picture anyways? That you're tough, because you have a gun. Hypocrite.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:34 PM
There is NOOOO creditable source. Hard to trust anything, or anyone.

you want me to discuss my conclusions on 9/11? no problem, ill make a new thread though because this isnt about that, this is about your ridiculous conspiracy theories your all have yet to support

clear the way mugs
12-07-2005, 06:35 PM
what you gonna do about it. super soak me with that watergun so i dont have to take a shower

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:35 PM
Hey now, you're the one who feels the need to post a picture of yourself holding a gun. What point are YOU trying to prove with that picture anyways? That you're tough, because you have a gun. Hypocrite.

oh please. i didnt put a pick up of me with a gun to be 'tough on the internet.

eg420ne
12-07-2005, 06:36 PM
boynamedsue going to make a new thread hahahahah thats a laugh u wardummie

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:36 PM
what you gonna do about it. super soak me with that watergun so i dont have to take a shower

im going to do nothing about it, im just telling you that you dont need to act tough on the internet to impress your friends or make you feel better about yourself.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:37 PM
why are you gonna make a new thread for? the same shit is gonna happen so leave it be.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:40 PM
why are you gonna make a new thread for? the same shit is gonna happen so leave it be.

the point that i was trying to get across is that this thread is about conspiracy theories but it seems like the only thing people want to talk about is me.

when someone disagrees with you, you dont lash out like a child and turn the debate into a circus, you rebute with a logical argument.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:40 PM
the military did a tremendous job brainwashing you.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:42 PM
the military did a tremendous job brainwashing you.

is that right? post my military records please...or do you have no idea if i was ever in the military or not?

ya i thought so. again with the childish comments.

"looks like all those dirty hippys brainwashed you huhuhuh"...sounds pretty stupid doesnt it?

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:42 PM
the point that i was trying to get across is that this thread is about conspiracy theories but it seems like the only thing people want to talk about is me.

when someone disagrees with you, you dont lash out like a child and turn the debate into a circus, you rebute with a logical argument.

oma you just described what you did. all you kept sayin is how do you know? were you there? whos your sources? etc

you didnt even take minute to think about it or not, you just wrote it off.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:44 PM
is that right? post my military records please...or do you have no idea if i was ever in the military or not?

ya i thought so. again with the childish comments.

"looks like all those dirty hippys brainwashed you huhuhuh"...sounds pretty stupid doesnt it?

im pretty far from a hippy old son. when the time comes i will have no problem pickin off you and your soldier buddies. :thumbsup:

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 06:45 PM
the point that i was trying to get across is that this thread is about conspiracy theories but it seems like the only thing people want to talk about is me.

when someone disagrees with you, you dont lash out like a child and turn the debate into a circus, you rebute with a logical argument.

There is no logical argument for what they put across. The fag, cop insults is a last resort to logic. Don't let the ignorant get to ya dude, kind of like a child with a mental handicap...you just got to show pitty!

Wake up people! The same folk that put out your little conspiracy papers are the ones charging $19.95 for the tapes and $54.00 for a years subscription. If there were no conspiracy, they would be broke! 1+1 really does equal 2. :thumbsup:

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:46 PM
oma you just described what you did. all you kept sayin is how do you know? were you there? whos your sources? etc

you didnt even take minute to think about it or not, you just wrote it off.

exactly. someone was talking about security cameras and claimed that there was some kind of government cover up and i asked them to support their argument by tell me where the cameras were, what type the were, what happened to them, etc. if you dont know those details, how can you go around claiming that your 9/11 theory is correct? those details are the foundation for the argument. for all i know your just making that stuff up.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:48 PM
im pretty far from a hippy old son. when the time comes i will have no problem pickin off you and your soldier buddies. :thumbsup:

i guess you didnt catch the sarcasm in that did you?

and not to get off topic, but to think that your buddies can take out a few good marines, you have to be out of your mind. the difference is that a marine would never say 'im going to pick off a fellow american'. a marine doesnt care if your a hippy or one of his brothers because theyre bigger people than that.

eg420ne
12-07-2005, 06:48 PM
There is no logical argument for what they put across. The fag, cop insults is a last resort to logic. Don't let the ignorant get to ya dude, kind of like a child with a mental handicap...you just got to show pitty!

Wake up people! The same folk that put out your little conspiracy papers are the ones charging $19.95 for the tapes and $54.00 for a years subscription. If there were no conspiracy, they would be broke! 1+1 really does equal 2. :thumbsup:
PSY i new i find u here as well it seems to go back and forth i think 911 is somewhat a dead issues here i believe it was a MIHOP and u believe 19 hijackers... man we could go alll day with this one..have funn psy

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:48 PM
you want to dig when the answer is the obvious, right in front of your face. its alright man, you just dont wanna rock the boat.

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 06:49 PM
There was camera footage from a gas station and a hotel that caught this and was imediately confiscated....LIKE ALL CRIME SCENES WOULD DO!

Big fuckin' deal!!!

clear the way mugs
12-07-2005, 06:49 PM
im going to do nothing about it, im just telling you that you dont need to act tough on the internet to impress your friends or make you feel better about yourself.

and im just telling you that you dont need to show a pic of yourself thinking your st slaughter with that bb gun of yours to impress these carrot smokers

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 06:50 PM
the point that i was trying to get across is that this thread is about conspiracy theories but it seems like the only thing people want to talk about is me.

when someone disagrees with you, you dont lash out like a child and turn the debate into a circus, you rebute with a logical argument.

Oh really....


you want me to discuss my conclusions on 9/11? no problem, ill make a new thread though because this isnt about that, this is about your ridiculous conspiracy theories your all have yet to support

The thing is, you never mentioned any of your thoughts on 9/11. All you did was disagree with us say how ridiculas our thoughts were. How do you expect us to react? Ya, ther eill be some outhy ones but you simply ignore them and talk to the ones that want to have the arguement, or debate

When someone has a mature arguement about something, you listen to them, say good point, and say your side of the story. You don't say we are wrong because you could be equally wrong as well.

For me though, I don't think there were any bombs in that building. I think, an airplane that size and carry that much fuel, could take down a building. I also believe it was a revenge tactic from Usama Bin Laden, but I'm done argueing, it's killing my buzz.

Peace

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 06:50 PM
PSY i new i find u here as well it seems to go back and forth i think 911 is somewhat a dead issues here i believe it was a MIHOP and u believe 19 hijackers... man we could go alll day with this one..have funn psy


We have had our wars! LOL But ya get down to it, were all stoners and I wouldn't mind firing one up with my paranoid friend! LOL :thumbsup:

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:50 PM
There was camera footage from a gas station and a hotel that caught this and was imediately confiscated....LIKE ALL CRIME SCENES WOULD DO!

Big fuckin' deal!!!

thats what i was saying, its standard operating procedure.

eg420ne
12-07-2005, 06:52 PM
We have had our wars! LOL But ya get down to it, were all stoners and I wouldn't mind firing one up with my paranoid friend! LOL :thumbsup:
same here im staying out of this thread lol

hank
12-07-2005, 06:52 PM
how did ppl know who was driving the plane? it might have been an white pilot opposed to an iraqi

plus, i heard the tower collapsed because the plane was carrying a lot of engine oil in the trunk and bin laden planned it all, but that's just a theory too

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:53 PM
There was camera footage from a gas station and a hotel that caught this and was imediately confiscated....LIKE ALL CRIME SCENES WOULD DO!

Big fuckin' deal!!!

and you dont think thats strange? they played the planes hittin the towers non stop but never showed what hit the pentagon. oh no thats not strange, matter fact i dont care, im just gonna go watch some reality shows. :rolleyes:

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 06:53 PM
thats what i was saying, its standard operating procedure.

Yes, that is procedure, but wouldn't you think that your president, who cares so much for his people, would want someone to view those tapes to find out real answers? Killing 4000+ innocent people and letting procedure take over is not something your president should do. He should do everything in his power to view those tapes and find answers.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:54 PM
The thing is, you never mentioned any of your thoughts on 9/11. All you did was disagree with us say how ridiculas our thoughts were. How do you expect us to react?

because this thread wasnt about me. people make odd-ball claims and i challenged them on it, thats the way life works. im not trying to be harsh about it, i just felt like instead of backing up their own theories, everyone attacked me for questioning them. thats why i said, if you want to do that, fine, but ill make a new thread.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 06:55 PM
Yes, that is procedure, but wouldn't you think that your president, who cares so much for his people, would want someone to view those tapes to find out real answers? Killing 4000+ innocent people and letting procedure take over is not something your president should do. He should do everything in his power to view those tapes and find answers.

that depends on a lot of variables and you know that.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:55 PM
thats what i was saying, its standard operating procedure.

is it also standard procedure to keep the public in the dark? if it was bin laden and a plane as they claimed, what do they have to fear from that tape?

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 06:57 PM
because this thread wasnt about me. people make odd-ball claims and i challenged them on it, thats the way life works. im not trying to be harsh about it, i just felt like instead of backing up their own theories, everyone attacked me for questioning them. thats why i said, if you want to do that, fine, but ill make a new thread.

yea you challenged them cuz you have no mind of your own. you keep challenging them but you never mention any of your conclusions. whats the matter soldier boy, drawing a blank?

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 06:58 PM
that depends on a lot of variables and you know that.

Like what, a few examples? I'm not quite sure what you mean.

clear the way mugs
12-07-2005, 07:01 PM
Yes, that is procedure, but wouldn't you think that your president, who cares so much for his people, would want someone to view those tapes to find out real answers? Killing 4000+ innocent people and letting procedure take over is not something your president should do. He should do everything in his power to view those tapes and find answers.

couldnt have said it better

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 07:06 PM
oh now i get it.

the quote from waylon jennings, your appearance and the gun-toting, you're a redneck which means you're a republican and probably a christian which means you support bush and you cant stand of any badmouthing of bush.

case closed.

pisshead
12-07-2005, 07:06 PM
i've posted links to professors, structural engineers and designers (even of the WTC towers...), government officials and congressmen, and many other people who disagree with the official federal conspiracy theory of 19 freedom hating hijackers...

the feds won't let us see the oklahoma city tapes or the pentagon tapes because it would prove they are lying. the tapes are just a minor issue, there are plenty of things that point the finger at elements of the federal government, and not some 19 crazy muslims shouting allah that didn't know how to fly commanded by a guy in a cave that we can't find...

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 07:06 PM
and you dont think thats strange? they played the planes hittin the towers non stop but never showed what hit the pentagon. oh no thats not strange, matter fact i dont care, im just gonna go watch some reality shows. :rolleyes:

Osama admits guilt on TV for all to see. People witnessed a plane go across the highway and crash into the Pentagon. What more do you need?

Where is Osama's motive for taking the fall? He lost his country (Afghanistan) or training ground...whatever you want to call it. His assets frozen. Where is his motive for taking the fall for the U.S. government if this is a conspiracy? If there were ANY truth to these theories what so ever Al-Jazeera news would have been on top of it from day one!

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 07:10 PM
i've posted links to professors, structural engineers and designers (even of the WTC towers...), government officials and congressmen, and many other people who disagree with the official federal conspiracy theory of 19 freedom hating hijackers...

the feds won't let us see the oklahoma city tapes or the pentagon tapes because it would prove they are lying. the tapes are just a minor issue, there are plenty of things that point the finger at elements of the federal government, and not some 19 crazy muslims shouting allah that didn't know how to fly commanded by a guy in a cave that we can't find...

And your like a living conspiracy freak show. Hell, when you take a shit, if the water splashes your ass you think the government is trying to implant a monitoring chip. LAY OFF THE SATIVA PISSY, YOUR PARANOID!! :thumbsup:

eg420ne
12-07-2005, 07:11 PM
now be nice psy-- you know the mainstream media is sleeping what the govt and if it was a liberal press then bush begone long time ago...

Stoner Shadow Wolf
12-07-2005, 07:13 PM
based on what i've seen and heard in the news, i have to say that it was a conspiracy to make the middle east look bad enough to go to war with, to retain our precious black gold, and keep hemp illegal, so as to continue hitting home with taxes.

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 07:16 PM
now be nice psy-- you know the mainstream media is sleeping what the govt and if it was a liberal press then bush begone long time ago...

OUR mainstreem press...maybe; Al-Jazeera along with news agencies from France, China, Russia, etc....I really doubt it! They would just LOVE to have this crap on the headlines of their papers.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 07:16 PM
Psycho4boynamedsuefag

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 07:17 PM
Psycho4boynamedsuefag

Mommy must have let ya back on the computor...so proud of ya! :thumbsup:

CocaCola
12-07-2005, 07:18 PM
I think it's better to think about these things other then just listening to what they're telling you... as long as you don't go overboard, beleive in all these theories and go take action. Well, that makes you crazy.

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 07:19 PM
OUR mainstreem press...maybe; Al-Jazeera along with news agencies from France, China, Russia, etc....I really doubt it! They would just LOVE to have this crap on the headlines of their papers.

See, like this person here. He is right, we are all wrong. Then again, you must live in the Middle East, France, China, Russia, Etc to know all of this right?

Unless you have an informative arguement to state, then piss off.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 07:20 PM
Moommmy psycho ur sister is being mean, ru going to the meeting friday psycho oooohhh and jeff gannon is having a x-mas party next week are u going

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 07:21 PM
And your like a living conspiracy freak show. Hell, when you take a shit, if the water splashes your ass you think the government is trying to implant a monitoring chip. LAY OFF THE SATIVA PISSY, YOUR PARANOID!! :thumbsup:

real funny how pisshead brings up all these good valid points and right away he is mocked. you just demonstrated the typical behavior of an american citizen or human rather, congratulations you're well on your way.......

Nochowderforyou
12-07-2005, 07:22 PM
real funny how pisshead brings up all these good valid points and right away he is mocked. you just demonstrated the typical behavior of an american citizen or human rather, congratulations you're well on your way.......

God bless America! :rolleyes:

pisshead
12-07-2005, 07:23 PM
real funny how pisshead brings up all these good valid points and right away he is mocked. you just demonstrated the typical behavior of an american citizen or human rather, congratulations you're well on your way.......
hey, i'm used to it...i never get a real response from psychobabble...the torture loving anti-constitution 'libertarian'...

CocaCola
12-07-2005, 07:25 PM
Americans like to denouce these generalizations, as just that... untrue generalizations. But why do we have so many prime examples of your "typical American"? This is where the American stereotypes stem from... um... the stupid Americans. The smart ones should just laugh and move on... no one is saying all Americans are dumb. But the dumb ones... are exactly what the stereotypes suggest they are. Stupid ignorant fuckheads.

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 07:27 PM
real funny how pisshead brings up all these good valid points and right away he is mocked. you just demonstrated the typical behavior of an american citizen or human rather, congratulations you're well on your way.......

Good valid points...which ones? You mean like his theory on building 7? I suppose fire fighters could have concentrated their efforts on putting out the fire in Building 7 instead of trying to rescue survivors from the other 2 buildings....if thats where your priorities are at. :thumbsup:

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 07:29 PM
hey, i'm used to it...i never get a real response from psychobabble...the torture loving anti-constitution 'libertarian'...

You see, when you put in credible evidence from architects, engineers, etc..they are all paid off be the C.I.A.

Face it Pissy, you got some real issues with life in general!

Irnman
12-07-2005, 07:29 PM
Psycho4gays dont believe there was a building 7 because the govt did not tell him about it...

lateralus
12-07-2005, 07:29 PM
But the dumb ones... are exactly what the stereotypes suggest they are. Stupid ignorant fuckheads.The sad thing is that most of them get pussy.

pisshead
12-07-2005, 07:30 PM
Psycho4gays dont believe there was a building 7 because the govt did not tell him about it...
i know...obvious out in the open fraud regarding building 7...the feds don't care...his torture loving neo-con masters don't seem to care about it either...

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 07:30 PM
Psycho4gays dont believe there was a building 7 because the govt did not tell him about it...

hahhahhahahhahahahahahahah

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 07:31 PM
Psycho4gays dont believe there was a building 7 because the govt did not tell him about it...


And this is a typical example of one of Pissy's blind followers. Agree with me or your gay....great argument dude! :thumbsup:

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 07:32 PM
its all fear, they dont want anything disturbing their comfortable life. now go pay 7 bucks for a cup of coffee at starbucks, hurry.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 07:32 PM
awww poor psycho4jeffgannons of the world talking shhhh everyone

CocaCola
12-07-2005, 07:32 PM
It's a message board... it's on the internet... it's accessed from a little box called a computer. Haha, blind followers... like he has an e-cult or something?

Irnman
12-07-2005, 07:34 PM
your the one who follows pisshead everywhere and u said to me "blow me" so what not gay about you

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 07:41 PM
irnman has a point there.

Psycho4Bud
12-07-2005, 07:44 PM
If Osama is being set up why aren't any "non-american" papers stating this?

Why would you concentrate efforts on saving a burning building holding 275 gallons of diesle fuel over saving lives?

No answers to that except for get a cup of coffee fag? Quite the argument! At least pissy tries to sound legit! Bye children....see you later!! :thumbsup:

You should try the cultivation section....thats where the adults hang out.

CocaCola
12-07-2005, 07:45 PM
Bye.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 07:49 PM
awww leaving so soon psycho4cops hahahahahah..I see u at the meeting friday

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 07:50 PM
If Osama is being set up why aren't any "non-american" papers stating this?

Why would you concentrate efforts on saving a burning building holding 275 gallons of diesle fuel over saving lives?

No answers to that except for get a cup of coffee fag? Quite the argument! At least pissy tries to sound legit! Bye children....see you later!! :thumbsup:

You should try the cultivation section....thats where the adults hang out.

you're a stooge. thats why its called a conspiracy not a fuckin news bullentin. i never called you a fag but if the shoe fits.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 07:58 PM
You see there is way 2 many unexplained question surrounding the events of 911 and if u bring up anything that goes against what the govt said then they come out calling u names and belittle the message because they cant handle the truth it scares them so there first instinks<(lol) is to you r a nut or some other words i cant used now...

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 08:00 PM
no argument here.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:00 PM
wheres boynamedsue is he doing his thread i cant wait for that...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHAHA AHHHHAHAHAHAHHA

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 08:01 PM
yea, i know. maybe he needs to make a thread so he could feel superior.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 08:05 PM
oh now i get it.

the quote from waylon jennings, your appearance and the gun-toting, you're a redneck which means you're a republican and probably a christian which means you support bush and you cant stand of any badmouthing of bush.

case closed.

your doing a good job of keeping the stereotype of people like you alive. keep the ignorance coming, it just makes you look bad.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:06 PM
with more pictures of him showing off his guns hahahahaha

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:07 PM
there he is boynamedsue have u done ur thread ye just asking

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 08:08 PM
yea you challenged them cuz you have no mind of your own.

that makes no sense at all. if i had no mind of my own, wouldnt i just go along with what theyre saying? according to your backwards logic, you have no mind of your own for challenging with the govt tells you.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 08:09 PM
there he is boynamedsue have u done ur thread ye just asking

no ive been at class getting an education, something you should look into. you spell like a 3rd grader.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:10 PM
so what r u trying to say boynamedsue is we should listen 2 whatever our govt say?

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:11 PM
no ive been at class getting an education, something you should look into. you spell like a 3rd grader.
oooh that funny hahhahahahahahahahaha im sorry to disappoint you but i do have a great job its with the govt but its still great in fact it was made because of 911...

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 08:12 PM
so what r u trying to say boynamedsue is we should listen 2 whatever our govt say?

god are you that slow? let me spell it out for you...

king kong bong said that i have no mind of my own for challenging the conspiracy theories. i concluded that, according to his logic, he has no mind of for challenging with the govt tells him.

we both have minds and we both think for ourselves, we just do it in different ways.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 08:12 PM
boynamedsue-a musclebound gun-toting stooge.

sorry shoulda been more specific for you, you challenged them cuz you have no conclusions of your own except for what the govt told you. in simpler terms, you challenged them cuz you have no mind of your own.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:13 PM
boynamedsue-a musclebound gun-toting stooge.

sorry shoulda been more specific for you, you challenged them cuz you have no conclusions of your own except for what the govt told you. in simpler terms, you challenged them cuz you have no mind of your own.
lol

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 08:15 PM
boynamedsue-a musclebound gun-toting stooge.

sorry shoulda been more specific for you, you challenged them cuz you have no conclusions of your own except for what the govt told you. in simpler terms, you challenged them cuz you have no mind of your own.

and once again.....

this thread isnt about ME, so i didnt come in here spewing my opinions on what happened on 9/11. if you want to hear it so bad give me you email and ill be glad to send you my thoughts, but for now, were talking about conspiracy theories which none of you can support.

and honestly, the personal attacks are stupid, grow up.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:17 PM
Boynamedretard is an some educational mind-controlled program..

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 08:18 PM
personal attacks are never stupid, its what the govt does best. we're using standard operatings procedures on you. are you scared to post your thoughts here?

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Boynamedretard is an some educational mind-controlled program..

fuckin A

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:19 PM
Ya boynamedsue your right---- we should stop calling each other names but first you have to stop...

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 08:20 PM
man you guys are right, i guess im just a crazy redneck thats being brainwashed by my own government. ill go back to watching Fox News and cleaning my guns :rolleyes:

i have no problem with a debate but you guys have just turned this into a bitch fight. im over it.

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 08:21 PM
hes right sue ellen.

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:21 PM
Bye

Irnman
12-07-2005, 08:23 PM
man you guys are right, i guess im just a crazy redneck thats being brainwashed by my own government. ill go back to watching Fox News and cleaning my guns :rolleyes:

i have no problem with a debate but you guys have just turned this into a bitch fight. im over it.You say u have no problem with debate but everytime someone post something that u dont like u make it a joke and u do it all the time i've read your post b4 .....and u can say the same about me but i always say shit after the fact that someone making or misleading a post because it goes against what the govt told them

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 08:24 PM
yea im over it too....your stoogeness that is.

BoyNamedSue
12-07-2005, 08:25 PM
You say u have no problem with debate but everytime someone post something that u dont like u make it a joke and u do it all the time i've read your post b4 .....

what are you talking about?

find one quote by me where i made a joke out of a serious and real argument.

CocaCola
12-07-2005, 08:25 PM
ill go back to watching Fox News and cleaning my guns :rolleyes:

Hahahaha

king kong bong
12-07-2005, 08:27 PM
i thought you were over it and leaving?? you lied to us susan.

lateralus
12-07-2005, 09:04 PM
Ass, blood and guts, Suzie.

This has to have broken some sort of record for fastest replies ever.

jahjahjahjah
12-07-2005, 09:19 PM
A bomb horse shit,what an idiot u can see the planes hit the towers.

lateralus
12-07-2005, 09:21 PM
Hahahahahah

CocaCola
12-07-2005, 09:33 PM
A bomb horse shit,what an idiot u can see the planes hit the towers.
Way to miss the point.

king kong bong
12-09-2005, 03:21 PM
^^^^^

beachguy in thongs
12-09-2005, 03:26 PM
The planes hit the towers and I'll accept that as a reason why they fell. If bombs had lined the whole building, it would've been obliterated.

I was sleep-walking when I wrote this post.

king kong bong
12-09-2005, 03:57 PM
The planes hit the towers and I'll accept that as a reason why they fell. If bombs had lined the whole building, it would've been obliterated.

I was sleep-walking when I wrote this post.

not necessarily. the whole entire building was not lined with explosive, only certain floors. just enough floors so it could bring down the building. it wouldnt have to be many floors, just a few.

beachguy in thongs
12-09-2005, 04:40 PM
Once a few floors fell on top of one floor and then added that on top of the next one below that, it was just too much weight for it too support. Planted bombs would've caused secondary-explosions. I didn't see any of those, even on the slow-motion instant replay.

king kong bong
12-09-2005, 04:43 PM
did you check out the seismograph or however you spell it, it showed some pretty interesting readings. all i know for certain though is that they blew up the fbi offices in the building.

Nochowderforyou
12-09-2005, 06:24 PM
A bomb horse shit,what an idiot u can see the planes hit the towers.

Ha haha! So young, so much learning to do.