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beachguy in thongs
12-04-2005, 11:07 PM
I had a Brain Injury in 1994, and had found Cannabis to affect me to a much greater extent than Cocaine, Acid, or even Crack. It, mostly, cures my double-vision and tinitis.

I just found this from a 2002 study.

Abstract
Mounting in vitro and in vivo data suggest that the endocannabinoids anandamide and 2-arachidonoyl glycerol, as well as some plant and synthetic cannabinoids, have neuroprotective effects following brain injury. Cannabinoid receptor agonists inhibit glutamatergic synaptic transmission and reduce the production of tumour necrosis factor-alpha and reactive oxygen intermediates, which are factors in causing neuronal damage. The formation of the endocannabinoids anandamide and 2-arachidonoyl glycerol is strongly enhanced after brain injury, and there is evidence that these compounds reduce the secondary damage incurred. Some plant and synthetic cannabinoids, which do not bind to the cannabinoid receptors, have also been shown to be neuroprotective, possibly through their direct effect on the excitatory glutamate system and/or as antioxidants.

Should I bring this to the attention of a Doctor?

MMJ is not legal in Virginia, anymore.

Clevelandsmokin
12-05-2005, 03:00 AM
interesting seek a doc see what he has to say hopefully hes not biased

beachguy in thongs
12-05-2005, 05:19 AM
I'm thinking of maybe seeing this Psychologist, that knows I smoke pot, and talk to him, to see what I should do. Or at least, to see what he might know.

beachguy in thongs
12-05-2005, 05:47 AM
Then I'd have to pay $30 just to talk to see him. Does anyone suggest a way I can go about this?

OR Freebird
12-05-2005, 06:57 AM
What are the med MJ laws in Virginia?

beachguy in thongs
12-05-2005, 04:57 PM
It was legal for doctors to prescribe it, since 1979, and then when they realized it, they overturned that. So as far as I know, medical marijuana isn't legal in Virginia.

But I did hear, a while back, that one of the countries MMJ users lived in Virginia.

edit: I called the Doctor, who had experimented on me with epileptic drugs and muscle relaxers when others couldn't pinpoint where pain in my foot was originating from. Neither him or his secretary is there on Mondays and Fridays.

I left a voice message.

beachguy in thongs
12-05-2005, 06:21 PM
I would really like some more input on this. My appointment is next Wednesday, the 14th.

1234abcd
12-05-2005, 06:46 PM
Just talk to your doctor, there is a legal way to obtain cannabis in every state a doctor told me a little while ago. Most doctors are liberal also. Its just easier to obtain it in the 13 or so states that already have MMJ laws enacted.

beachguy in thongs
12-05-2005, 07:20 PM
Thanks. I am currently researching the after-effects of a T.B.I., on the hippocampus, and Cannabinoids, and their effects on that region of the brain.

litespeed
12-06-2005, 04:49 PM
A. Relevant Federal Statutes and "The Grandfather Clause"

The Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act of 1938 ("the FDCA"), 21 U.S.C. §301 et seq., is designed to protect public health by regulating "new drugs" that are intended for use in interstate commerce. Barnes v. United States, 142 F.2d 648 (9th Cir.1944); United States v. Kordel, 164 F.2d 913 (7th Cir.1947); United States v. Two Bags, Poppy Seeds, 147 F.2d 123 (6th Cir. 1945). There exists, however, a "grandfather" clause which exempts certain old drugs from this "new drug" status. 21 U.S.C. §321(p)(1); United States v. Rutherford, 442 U.S.544, 546-48 (1979); Rutherford v. United States, 541 F.2d. 1137, 1140-42 (10th Cir.1976) (reversed on other grounds, 442 U.S. 544).

As explained by federal regulators, when Congress revamped the FDCA in 1939, it "accepted those drugs marketed prior to 1938 which had been subject to the 1906 provisions of the FDCA [requiring drugs to be identified in recognized medical authorities such as the National Formulary, United States Dispensatory, Pharmacopeia of the United States, or other similar sources] provided these very old drugs retain their exact formulations and are never promoted for new uses." 57 Fed.Reg. 10499, 10503 (1992) (citing 21 U.S.C. §321(p) and (w)). As further explained, these pre-1938 drugs "are politically 'grandfathered' drugs" and "need not meet modern standards for safety and effectiveness." Ibid; United States v. Rutherford, 442 U.S. at 546-48; Rutherford v. United States, 541 F.2d. at 1140-42.

As will now be shown, marijuana is one of those "very old drugs" that was grandfathered in as a medicine back in 1938. Marijuana (more commonly known as cannabis) was widely recognized for its medicinal use in the medical journals of that time, and brand-name companies, such as Parke-Davis and Eli Lilly, were cultivating "home-grown cannabis" and selling the "flowering tops" of the plant for use in the treatment of illnesses such as anorexia, chronic pain, spasticity, and nausea.

beachguy in thongs
12-06-2005, 05:17 PM
Wow, litespeed, that sounds very promising.

beachguy in thongs
12-06-2005, 05:20 PM
Oh, and my appointment is with an M.D., O.D., not the Psychologist I was talking about.

beachguy in thongs
12-15-2005, 07:09 AM
My doc listened to me, said many of his patients use marijuana, but he can't prescribe. He just tells them to keep it quiet. I wonder how many of those patients have a condition which marijuana's healing properties are multiplied due to a brain-injury and cannabinoids', both natural and synthetic, effects on the higher output from the Hippocampus.

He told me to find a Doctor who is "waving that banner", but right now the current "state of affairs" won't allow it. He mentioned California and Oregon, twice. I thought I found my home. :sadcrying

del...
12-24-2005, 04:44 PM
only 10 days late...oh well.

anyway, there are many other states that have legalized med use...at least 11 at last count with several others considering it (even alabama of all places!). norml.org has all the info needed about it and individuals can help once you decide which state you'll be moving into...i suggest nevada for its climate, mj laws, employment opportunities and cost of living.

robert42
12-24-2005, 07:48 PM
i hope u do get a MMJ Licsense beachguy, ididn't know about ur problems u get,

hope u start 2 feel better
ur friend rob :p

newbySmoker
12-24-2005, 08:01 PM
Come on down to denver colorado , we are making steps in the right direction . its legal for anyone over the age of 21 to be in possesion of up to an ounce in the city . Still illegal to smoke , but we moving the right direction brother !

GanjaBob
12-26-2005, 07:50 AM
mmj is legal here in montana

mike jones
12-26-2005, 11:24 AM
i am a MMJ patient for insomnia here in california. it makes me sad when there are people who are in actual pain who do not have access to MMJ, and i can get as much as i want just because sometimes i can't sleep at night. move out west, beachguy!

beachguy in thongs
12-31-2005, 06:52 PM
Thanks, MikeJones, for sharing your concerns.

My sister moved out to L.A. several years ago. I've been thinking about it, but, geographically, Virginia Beach is perfect.

You're right MikeJones, this is certainly Our country and we should all have the same rights.


i hope u do get a MMJ Licsense beachguy, ididn't know about ur problems u get,

hope u start 2 feel better
ur friend rob :p

Unfortunately, once you have a severe brain injury, there's no turning back. But that isn't the physical pain which is a result of a second accident, seven years after the traumatic injury. I've had pain from my foot to my knee, for four and a half years. I've went through epileptic medication, after nerve tests came up negative. It's permanent. Except after a few hits. Then the pain is gone and a numbing feeling overtakes it that makes my leg feel like it's being comforted by millions of blood cells.

Thanks. I hope that you all drop by sometime.

beachguy in thongs
12-31-2005, 06:54 PM
There is the Virginia Nurses Association who is fighting for MMJ.

beachguy in thongs
05-31-2006, 02:13 AM
Hmmm, I'm talking to a guy from NORML @ Virginia Tech, right now.

He first asked me, "Why would you lose Virginia?"

I read this again and I'm thinking, "because I have friends inviting me to move out West!"

beachguy in thongs
05-31-2006, 02:20 AM
A small sample from a letter that he sent me.


If you want you can always email LEAP. But in a way you are talking
with LEAP right now as I am their international liason. I am one
of the few non-police volunteers to be considered a special assistant
to LEAP.

You people are good friends. I learned this all from you.

Mr.N
05-31-2006, 09:56 PM
I live in the great VA... When the hell was it legal? lol

del...
05-31-2006, 10:43 PM
http://www.norml.org/

Possession of marijuana is punishable by up to 30 days in jail and a fine up to $500 for the first offense and up to one year in jail and a fine up to $2,500 for subsequent offenses.

Cultivation of marijuana is punishable by 5 - 30 years in prison and a fine up to $10,000. A conviction for manufacturing marijuana must include proof that the marijuana was being grown for a purpose other than the growerâ??s personal use.

The delivery or sale of one-half ounce of marijuana or less is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine up to $2,500. For greater than one-half ounce, the penalties increase to a possible 1 - 10 years in prison and a fine up to $2,500. Sale or delivery of greater than five pounds carries a penalty of 5 - 30 years in prison. Any amount of 100 kilograms or greater is punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence of twenty years in prison with a possible maximum of life in prison and a fine of up to $1,000,000.

Any sale to a minor carries a penalty of 10 - 50 years in prison and a fine of up to $100,000. Any sale within 1,000 feet of a school, school bus, school bus stop, recreation center, public library or state hospital is punishable by 1 - 5 years in prison and a fine up to $100,000.

Transporting five pounds or more into the state with the intent to sell carries a sentence of 5 - 40 years in prison, with a three-year mandatory minimum sentence, and a fine of up to $1,000,000.

Probation with deferred proceedings is possible for first offenders in some instances.

The sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to one year in jail and a fine up to $2,500, unless the sale was to a minor, in which case the penalty increases to 1 - 5 years in prison and a fine up to $2,500.


the laws in virginia aren't all that bad considering other states but still there are no medical necessity defense law or licensing for med use. move to an enlightened state and get legal!

beachguy in thongs
06-01-2006, 12:46 AM
I live in the great VA... When the hell was it legal? lol

This is the way I remember reading about it:
Something happened in the late 70's, in regards to a law of some sort, that made it possible for doctor's to prescribe medical marijuana. In the late 90's, the State realized that this law was in place and changed it.

I doubt that I was misinformed.



move to an enlightened state and get legal!

I was told to stay put. I like how you worded it, though. "Enlightened" state.