Too many people ignorant about drugs

[187]

The other day me and these 2 kids were getting a dub and when the dealer comes up to the car. He tells us hes got acid and i ask him how much and shit he was like 15$ per hit so i was like fuck that. The my friend proceed to tell me that acod kills tons of brain cell and drips in to your spinal fluid and stays there. iNow i tell them that is bull shit but htey don't beileve me and one of the kids tells my sister.Today she tells me she found out and says that u can die really easily from it and all my brian cells will be dead. i tell her she is ignorant about drugs and ask her where she got that info of course there was no answer. I've also been agruing with these kids about how weed doesn't kill brain cells they don't believe me about that either. This really pisses me off sorry for the rant anybody else know people like this?

[dopefiend]

my brother and mom are the same way, they think weed is bad for you and kills brain cells and causes accidents, weed hasnt ever been proven to kill brain cells and alcohol related accidents outnumber weed related accidents 10,000 to 1 :cursing: :cursing: :cursing: :cursing:

[CrAzYpOtHeAd]

yeah, i don't think weed does kill brain cells. but remember, just because it HAS'NT been proven dos'nt mean its 100% no true.

[Trichome Creator]

Most of the people I have met in my life are ignorant when it comes to drugs. I personally love this line. "The best I've ever smoked is hydro. I was so fucked up." Yeah whatever guy. I respond with Hydroponically grown cannabis does not make it any more potent but just shortens the time in growing and produces larger yeilds. So then they look at me for a few seconds. "Then they scratch their ass then go you don't know shit man". So now I let people belive whatever they want to because you'll never change their minds. Their already programmed by Uncle Sam.

[lateralus]

Everyone knows people like that. We're all at least slightly ignorant on the subject. Denying that would be.. well.. ignorant.

I strongly believe that drug addiction is never the drug's fault, but the user's. It has to do with the user's sense of responsibility, willpower, and genetics.

I'm sure Nullific can comment.

[187]

the fact that really annoys me is that they do it even though they think its killing there brain cells. If i knew in my mind that weed kills my brian cells when i smoke it i wouldn't do it at least not as often.

[Nullific]

I did some coke last night and though the buzz had worn off I was laying in bed reviewing an array of drug legalization arguments in my mind. Maybe I am obsessed, but among the thoughts was that every single American for the past hundred years has been fed by their government propaganda on the subject until this present day.
Every citizen of the United States and the majority of the world wide population has been fed exaggerations, half-truths and down right lies about drugs and drug use. Many of them fail to see now how it is the laws and not the actual drugs that are leading to many of the negative consequences of drug use. In essence, everything is in chaos.
Then before my very consciousness a new truth unfolded and I now care less if a person thinks that drugs are 'bad'. If a person thinks drugs are bad, well that is an opinion to which all men are entitled to. It can be argued, even so that drugs are illegal and solid evidence on the health-oriented consequences of their use is limited.
What is fact and what matters most to me is that drug prohibition has failed. Proof of this lies most everywhere you look. Step into any highschool in America, ask around and you'll soon find the drugs you're looking for because the fact is that most drug dealers don't check ID and many end-user drug dealers are minors themselves.
Go to any major city and walk down any street where you'll see the little plastic baggies and syringes. Look at the statistics and you'll see how the purity of cocaine has increased while the price has declined, despite the billions of dollars the government spent spraying herbicides on crops of coca.
So the next time a person tells me that drugs are bad I will proclaim that is their opinion while the fact is that drug prohibition has failed. Perhaps if enough people begin to realize that drug prohibition is a failure while maintaining that drugs are 'bad', the route to legalization will be a quicker one. And perhaps upon legalization more people will realize that the drugs weren't bad at all and it was the law all along. ;)

[MudFu]

Today she tells me she found out and says that u can die really easily from it and all my brian cells will be dead.

Funny how that is put...yea when you die your brain cells do tend to die also. Anyways, its nice to say that durgs don't harm (which in some cases is ture and others its not) but you have to use soruces also if you wish to make a point or fact. Anyways, Acid is suppose to mess you up, but I don't know for sure. But I do know that some durgs do harm (if so kill) brain cells. My older brother will be proof enough for me. He got heavy into some stuff and he hasn't been the same since, even after he quit it. So there has to be some truth to drugs harm. I would love to say that its all bullshit and the government is out to get us but I don't see it that way (not all the time), but thats only cuz I use some drugs. I don't like the government but I do not think they are the ones to blame for the bad views and flase views on drugs. We learn about durgs in school and are told to stay away from them, even stuff like beer which is legal.

[lateralus]

I did some coke last night and though the buzz had worn off I was laying in bed reviewing an array of drug legalization arguments in my mind. Maybe I am obsessed, but among the thoughts was that every single American for the past hundred years has been fed by their government propaganda on the subject until this present day.
Every citizen of the United States and the majority of the world wide population has been fed exaggerations, half-truths and down right lies about drugs and drug use. Many of them fail to see now how it is the laws and not the actual drugs that are leading to many of the negative consequences of drug use. In essence, everything is in chaos.
Then before my very consciousness a new truth unfolded and I now care less if a person thinks that drugs are 'bad'. If a person thinks drugs are bad, well that is an opinion to which all men are entitled to. It can be argued, even so that drugs are illegal and solid evidence on the health-oriented consequences of their use is limited.
What is fact and what matters most to me is that drug prohibition has failed. Proof of this lies most everywhere you look. Step into any highschool in America, ask around and you'll soon find the drugs you're looking for because the fact is that most drug dealers don't check ID and many end-user drug dealers are minors themselves.
Go to any major city and walk down any street where you'll see the little plastic baggies and syringes. Look at the statistics and you'll see how the purity of cocaine has increased while the price has declined, despite the billions of dollars the government spent spraying herbicides on crops of coca.
So the next time a person tells me that drugs are bad I will proclaim that is their opinion while the fact is that drug prohibition has failed. Perhaps if enough people begin to realize that drug prohibition is a failure while maintaining that drugs are 'bad', the route to legalization will be a quicker one. And perhaps upon legalization more people will realize that the drugs weren't bad at all and it was the law all along. ;)Even so, a cease in prohibition is unlikely to result in a cease of drug-addiction and ignorance of the subject at hand. The hole we've dug ourselves in is much too deep to be solved by such a trivial attempt at reformation. I use the word trivial, because in order to reach our much sought-after pipe dream of the majority's enlightenment, we would need to be in a position to distribute the facts, and have them received by individuals who are capable of doing so without bias. Unfortunately, our media, and even our textbooks, prove that we are not capable of making this happen. We have ignorance and idle minds to contend with, and we all know how powerful - and dangerous - those can be.

[flamingskullballs]

no matter what, there will always be people that think differently...no one is right, and no one is wrong...in their mind, were the ignorant ones...the problem is, people with our belief is far outnumbered by the others...so we are stepped on...they have to understand that just because we have different beliefs, whether we are right or wrong, we should be entitled to have these beliefs freely, without oppression...

[lateralus]

Yes, but in many cases, there is clearly a right and a wrong.

[l330]

i agree with you lateralus

[otsever]

"it would be fallacious to conclude that because the chemicals in marijuana have been found to present fewer dangers than some very harmful substances, the medical or recreational use of marijuana is perfectly safe. In a recreational context, marijuana has been shown to affect health, brain function, and memory. And in a medical context, marijuana is like any other powerful prescription drug: it has potentially dangerous side effects, and the decision to use it to treat patients must involve the same balancing test as the one required for chemotherapy or AZT: do the therapeutic effects of the drug outweigh its harmful effects? Though there are many more studies to be done on this issue, current data shows that the answer to this question may not always be "yes."

Regular smoking has been shown to materially affect the overall ability of the smokerâ??s body to defend itself against infection by weakening various natural immune mechanisms, including macrophages (a.k.a. "killer cells") and the all-important T-cell

Effects of Marijuana on the Brain. Researchers have found that THC changes the way in which sensory information gets into and is acted on by the hippocampus. This is a component of the brain's limbic system that is crucial for learning, memory, and the integration of sensory experiences with emotions and motivations. Investigations have shown that THC suppresses neurons in the information-processing system of the hippocampus. In addition, researchers have discovered that learned behaviors, which depend on the hippocampus, also deteriorate"


The quotes above are coming from Harvard University. But that is not the point. If you guys think marijuana is harmless you guys are the ignorant ones. Just like any other drug it is harmful. Alcohol is harmful too. And not being able to relieve yourself from the stresses life throws at you is harmful too. So it is a give and take situation. Don't tell me you don't think marijuana decreases your motivation. Everyone experiences that, you get weed, and you forget about trying to perform at your job or trying to get A's in school.

I believe as long as it is moderation smoking mj has way more advantages than not smoking. But moderation is the key word. Smoking even 1 joint every day or every other day is not close to moderation in my book.

You can't graduate successfully from college or outperform in a job that fits your best skills by smoking everyday or even once a week. It just does not happen.You can be average in what you do but you won't stack up well against people who are similar in intelligence and skills as you but don't smoke. They will not have 10% of the fun you have but will perform better. But smoking in moderation on the other hand will freshen you up and clear your mind.

A person can reach their highest potential if they can balance everything extremely well in my opinion.

[BaseRSX]

Most people I know, even those who donâ??t use it, donâ??t think pot is that bad. And as for everything else I guess Iâ??m kind of ignorant myself. I only do pot and booze. And I have never used any other drugs. I donâ??t judge people that do though, I am just not into it myself. All I need is THC and nothing moreâ?¦

[sharpezor]

POT??? POT?!?!?!? YOU PEOPLE DO "POT"? I pitty you, you're going to end up giving hand jobs for smack and die at a young age.

[Stedric]

Everyone knows people like that. We're all at least slightly ignorant on the subject. Denying that would be.. well.. ignorant.

I strongly believe that drug addiction is never the drug's fault, but the user's. It has to do with the user's sense of responsibility, willpower, and genetics.

I'm sure Nullific can comment.
Drug addiction is a disease, not a moral choice. I'm very, very tired of people suggesting otherwise. Groups like Alcoholics Anonymous have taken a step towards treating alcoholism as a neurological disease, and not a question of "morality" (and absurd idea). Relevant studies show only genetic and psychological/neurological precursors.

So it is not a question of "fault" at all.

[Hi my name is....]

if weed and acid dont kill your brain cells something else will, so take drugs, fuk sluts make fun of gay clubs (jk)

[sharpezor]

if weed and acid dont kill your brain cells something else will

yes like microwaves and hockey pucks. but id rather die from a hocky puck then drugs but HEY, who cares.

[Hi my name is....]

why would it matter your dead, apart from the social implications, brain cells dying doesnt mean your dead eh

[bonsaiguy]

Most of the people I have met in my life are ignorant when it comes to drugs. I personally love this line. "The best I've ever smoked is hydro. I was so fucked up." Yeah whatever guy. I respond with Hydroponically grown cannabis does not make it any more potent but just shortens the time in growing and produces larger yeilds. So then they look at me for a few seconds. "Then they scratch their ass then go you don't know shit man". So now I let people belive whatever they want to because you'll never change their minds. Their already programmed by Uncle Sam.

You're absolutely right about what people choose to believe. Peoples egos are so much more powerful that we think and pretty much everyone thinks that they are unquestionably right about a given subject. And because they believe something so deeply, they can't fathom how anyone could possibly disagree with what seems so obvious to them. (we are all guilty of this, expecially me) That's why I quit arguing with holy rollers, democans and republicrats a long time ago. Live and let live so to speak. The jury is still out on the effects of MJ, especially on the brain. For every opinion or study there are conflicting studies that have come to the opposite conclusion. Then there are the studies that consist of compilations of other peoples studies. Give me a break. The line between use and abuse is very very fine. One should never stop honestly wondering which side of this line you are on and if you can't honestly figure it out...find someone who can help you sort it out. That being said, I am a firm believer that we all need to learn these things for ourselves and should have the freedom to do so.

[lateralus]

Drug addiction is a disease, not a moral choice. I'm very, very tired of people suggesting otherwise. Groups like Alcoholics Anonymous have taken a step towards treating alcoholism as a neurological disease, and not a question of "morality" (and absurd idea). Relevant studies show only genetic and psychological/neurological precursors.

So it is not a question of "fault" at all.Well, I didn't say anything about morals. So you think I believe drugs are bad? :rolleyes:

In fact, I agree with you that it's a disease. A disease similar to an STD in that.. well.. you play with fire and you get burned. An individual genetically predisposed to drug-addiction isn't going to get addicted unless he puts himself in that position. Willpower comes into play when making the decision to at least only use occasionally, the same as that willpower will prevent someone from raping someone else. My father was a tweaker, and I do consider myself to have an addictive personality, but I KNOW WHEN TO RESTRAIN MYSELF.

I know alllllllll about twelve step programs. My mother volunteered and ran an Alateen meeting for two years at my old high school. She was a sponsor for several people who attended Al-anon. I wouldn't present this as fact, but I read on these boards that the success rate for alcoholics quitting, in and out of AA, were the same.

[otsever]

You're absolutely right about what people choose to believe. Peoples egos are so much more powerful that we think and pretty much everyone thinks that they are unquestionably right about a given subject. And because they believe something so deeply, they can't fathom how anyone could possibly disagree with what seems so obvious to them. (we are all guilty of this, expecially me) That's why I quit arguing with holy rollers, democans and republicrats a long time ago. Live and let live so to speak. The jury is still out on the effects of MJ, especially on the brain. For every opinion or study there are conflicting studies that have come to the opposite conclusion. Then there are the studies that consist of compilations of other peoples studies. Give me a break. The line between use and abuse is very very fine. One should never stop honestly wondering which side of this line you are on and if you can't honestly figure it out...find someone who can help you sort it out. That being said, I am a firm believer that we all need to learn these things for ourselves and should have the freedom to do so.


Well said. However, I don't think there is a line between use and abuse. imo the only line is the timeline and use and abuse both sit on the same line. Normal use turns to abuse at some point simply because it is literally not possible to maintain the SAME amount of use and have the same effects over and over. After the 1st few months with any drug, all you do is desperately (deep inside) search for the same high when you first start using the drug. You may still very much enjoy the experience but you always look for the good old days. That is why a lot of smokers I know including me "use" marijuana for a while, then "abuse" for a while, then you start realizing the unwanted things more than wanted effects, and quit for a while, then rinse and repeat.

[bonsaiguy]

Well said. However, I don't think there is a line between use and abuse. imo the only line is the timeline and use and abuse both sit on the same line. Normal use turns to abuse at some point simply because it is literally not possible to maintain the SAME amount of use and have the same effects over and over. After the 1st few months with any drug, all you do is desperately (deep inside) search for the same high when you first start using the drug. You may still very much enjoy the experience but you always look for the good old days. That is why a lot of smokers I know including me "use" marijuana for a while, then "abuse" for a while, then you start realizing the unwanted things more than wanted effects, and quit for a while, then rinse and repeat.

Good points all, but I just can't get on that bus. There is a line, as difficult as it may be to define, between use and abuse and I would venture to say, without actually knowing you, that you are staying on the use side based on the fact that you are honest enough with yourself to occasionally back off. I have been through those cycles myself and will probably (I hope) go through them again. Abusers/addicts have lost the ability to make that distinction or at least to act on it. It is also quite dependent on how it affects you life, work, family, self esteem, sexual function, etc etc etc. Oh what a tangled web we weave in our amazingly complex and fragile human psyche's. It also is affected by your reasons for using in the first place which are in turn affected by your upbringing and environment and the ever popular genetic makeup. (and if the Adam and Eve thing is true then we didn't have a chance since the gene pool was effed from day one) And one more item is the addictive nature of a substance itself. Not all substances are physically addictive or involve the brutal and even life threatening effects of drugs like heroine or booze. One of the few premises of the 12 step movement that I do agree with is that each must decide for oneself which side of the line they are on.

[Hi my name is....]

i believe some people in fact con themselves into being addicted (mainly because theres a word addiction) because they either want to belong to a group or they are using it as an escape from whatever therefore labelled addicts, you can oonly be an addict if you cant gave up when you want too, therefore psycologically weak (they arnt fully committed in there mind to quit)

[bonsaiguy]

i believe some people in fact con themselves into being addicted (mainly because theres a word addiction) because they either want to belong to a group or they are using it as an escape from whatever therefore labelled addicts, you can oonly be an addict if you cant gave up when you want too, therefore psycologically weak (they arnt fully committed in there mind to quit)


That's not altogether true Name since an addict can go a long time without using if they know that they will eventually use again. Expecially true of alcoholics. And you'll just have to trust me when I say that although there is a psychological component involved that some(mostly republicrats) say is a form of weakness of character or psyche, there are also definite physical aspects to addiction that are proven facts and are related to genetics and brain chemistry.

But you're right, some people do con themselves in to thinking they are addicts along with a host of other diseases. A waste is a terrible thing to mind.

[Hi my name is....]

That's not altogether true Name since an addict can go a long time without using if they know that they will eventually use again. Expecially true of alcoholics. And you'll just have to trust me when I say that although there is a psychological component involved that some(mostly republicrats) say is a form of weakness of character or psyche, there are also definite physical aspects to addiction that are proven facts and are related to genetics and brain chemistry.

But you're right, some people do con themselves in to thinking they are addicts along with a host of other diseases. A waste is a terrible thing to mind.

fair enough im just into the whole mind power and belief in yourself vibe i feel our minds are alot more powerful the maybe we are lead to beleive or think( on the basis we only use 20% OR whatever the number is of our brain) example people who see the future or respond with the dead or can hypnotise people etc are maybe tappin into different parts of the brain that most of us arnt using, although i cant see the future i have seen out of it shit to do with stuff moving by its self, possibly spirits or maybe it was our minds moving it( wbout 10 of us did a "saounce" cant spell sorry), any way random question have you ever done a marijuana bonsai

[flamingskullballs]

i like drugs

[bonsaiguy]

fair enough im just into the whole mind power and belief in yourself vibe i feel our minds are alot more powerful the maybe we are lead to beleive or think( on the basis we only use 20% OR whatever the number is of our brain) example people who see the future or respond with the dead or can hypnotise people etc are maybe tappin into different parts of the brain that most of us arnt using, although i cant see the future i have seen out of it shit to do with stuff moving by its self, possibly spirits or maybe it was our minds moving it( wbout 10 of us did a "saounce" cant spell sorry), any way random question have you ever done a marijuana bonsai

It's seance, and I agree that we have not tapped anything near our potential.
And no, since MJ is an annual, which means it drops seeds and dies every year, it wouldn't work. But the thought has crossed my mind. And in fact, we have actually had plainclothes cops visit our nursery from time to time because they see the greenhouse and light and wonder what's up. You'd think they have better things to do with their time.

[mrdevious]

To clarify, this whole thing about using 10%, or 20%, or whatever % of our brains is 100% false. we use all our brains. In the 1930's psychics started the rumors that we only use 10% of our brains and that they had figured out how to use it all and that's why they are psychic. if you ask any neurosurgeon and otherwise person experienced in the brain, they'll tell you it's just a popular myth. but, you tell a lie a million times and pretty soon it becomes a fact that people take for granted.

[Nochowderforyou]

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[Hi my name is....]

It's seance, and I agree that we have not tapped anything near our potential.
And no, since MJ is an annual, which means it drops seeds and dies every year, it wouldn't work. But the thought has crossed my mind. And in fact, we have actually had plainclothes cops visit our nursery from time to time because they see the greenhouse and light and wonder what's up. You'd think they have better things to do with their time.

yea wankers, im pretty sure you can bonsai a mj if kept in side under vege state and after a few years or whatever can even make it flower altho the yeild is minute read it in this book ( not tho all books are rite )and it did have pictures and they wernt fakies give it a go bro if you can be fucked be a cool project .

[bonsaiguy]

yea wankers, im pretty sure you can bonsai a mj if kept in side under vege state and after a few years or whatever can even make it flower altho the yeild is minute read it in this book ( not tho all books are rite )and it did have pictures and they wernt fakies give it a go bro if you can be fucked be a cool project .

Well I'll be damned. I suppose I'll have to give it a shot some day. If nothing else it would raise some eyebrows at the monthly bonsai society meetings.

[Hi my name is....]

To clarify, this whole thing about using 10%, or 20%, or whatever % of our brains is 100% false. we use all our brains. In the 1930's psychics started the rumors that we only use 10% of our brains and that they had figured out how to use it all and that's why they are psychic. if you ask any neurosurgeon and otherwise person experienced in the brain, they'll tell you it's just a popular myth. but, you tell a lie a million times and pretty soon it becomes a fact that people take for granted.

look at the motives for them sayin that there jobs would nearly be redundant if we all used more of our potential and plus you sort of contradict yourself a bit by listening to the neurosurgeons over the psychics, do agree that they wouldnt use all there brain but tapp into apart that mo0st poeple dont use but hey its all prretty wack most of science is based on thoery that is yet to be proven.

[Hi my name is....]

Well I'll be damned. I suppose I'll have to give it a shot some day. If nothing else it would raise some eyebrows at the monthly bonsai society meetings.


yea i too work at a nusery but more in the Aussie, South african and New Zealand natives but always had a interest in bonsai Never tried tho like the idea of a tree that could be 60 metres (200 feet Ithink) tall bout only 30cm ^inches

[bonsaiguy]

Keep in mind that neurosurgeons and people who study the brain are looking for things that they can measure. The mind cannot be measured since it has yet to even be properly defined. Is it just a bunch of neurons and cells or is it more than that? You're right that we seem to use all of our brain (the organ) and we can see that utilizing cat scans, mri's and the like. But I don't think anyone has managed to define or measure the mind or psyche.

[Hi my name is....]

haha the buggers would buzz out eh mite even open it into some market for it

[bonsaiguy]

yea i too work at a nusery but more in the Aussie, South african and New Zealand natives but always had a interest in bonsai Never tried tho like the idea of a tree that could be 60 metres (200 feet Ithink) tall bout only 30cm ^inches

Look in to it. There is a fairly active bonsai community in Australia and New Zealand. Tons of sites on the net. It is really cool to see a 2 foot tree that is several hundred years old and would be gargantuan if growing in the wild. Even the Sequoia's and Giant Redwoods of California have been tamed, so to speak. If you want some linke email me at bonsaiguy at hushmail.com and I'll see what I can find for you. Always like to bring newbies in to the hobby/art.

[Hi my name is....]

talkin bout the mj thing

[Hi my name is....]

disregard my last message yea hard out agree with you on the mind thing, have you heard of Kauri tree NZ native old arse conifer that can grow as old as 2000 years an even give the cali redwood a run for its money size wise

[bonsaiguy]

Nope, that one I have not heard of. I'm not a botanist...just an artist. Ever hear of the hosretail beefwood? I think it's native to your neck of the woods or maybe southeast asia. Cool lookin thing though. similar to a pine.

[Hi my name is....]

yeah just wondering if anyone may have tried to bonsai it (the Kauri) its related to the pine and prob the Hosretail beefwood (haha soundz like a food ) and just a question if you bonsai a flowering shrub such as a protea Native south african plant grows to about 12 metres tall maybe taller and can live to 20-35 years (guess) will the flowers be small to or the original size

[bonsaiguy]

My experience has been that foliage/leaves can be reduced by pruning and pinching back but I don't think that works for flowers. I'm not really sure.
But I tend to lean towards evergreens/conifers since they are cool and easier for me to store in winter.

[Stedric]

Well, I didn't say anything about morals. So you think I believe drugs are bad? :rolleyes:

In fact, I agree with you that it's a disease. A disease similar to an STD in that.. well.. you play with fire and you get burned. An individual genetically predisposed to drug-addiction isn't going to get addicted unless he puts himself in that position. Willpower comes into play when making the decision to at least only use occasionally, the same as that willpower will prevent someone from raping someone else. My father was a tweaker, and I do consider myself to have an addictive personality, but I KNOW WHEN TO RESTRAIN MYSELF.

I know alllllllll about twelve step programs. My mother volunteered and ran an Alateen meeting for two years at my old high school. She was a sponsor for several people who attended Al-anon. I wouldn't present this as fact, but I read on these boards that the success rate for alcoholics quitting, in and out of AA, were the same.
Well that is certainly a well thought out opinion and I agree with about 99% of what you are saying. I just get irratated when people look down on drug addicts (not saying thats what you're doing, just seemed like it), as I think its kind of like looking down on someone for having cancer. Overcoming severe drug addiction is one of the hardest things someone can do, and although I respect a recovering drug addict more than anything else, I really think they deserved to be treated as sick people and not as people who have made a mistake.

Lateralus was a great album.

[Hi my name is....]

yea true, hey man(bonsaiguy) good talking too ya have good one, gotta go do some shit its about 7:50pm monday over here(NZ by the way) but im sure to have a yarn(convo) with ya again sometime and ill check some bonsai webbys out(become more educated), and see if my calling comes. N E wayz peace out brother.

[bonsaiguy]

yea true, hey man(bonsaiguy) good talking too ya have good one, gotta go do some shit its about 7:50pm monday over here(NZ by the way) but im sure to have a yarn(convo) with ya again sometime and ill check some bonsai webbys out(become more educated), and see if my calling comes. N E wayz peace out brother.


Take care

[king kong bong]

weed actually makes new brain cells.

[CocaCola]

Drug addiction is a disease, not a moral choice. Wrong. Otherwise you'd be an addict before you even ingested the drug. I'm very, very tired of people suggesting otherwise. Groups like Alcoholics Anonymous have taken a step towards treating alcoholism as a neurological disease, and not a question of "morality" (and absurd idea). You're ultra absurd, you fucktard. Of course they are going to say that it's not their fault and that it is a disease, because the people who run AA are a bunch of pussies... and without telling them the truth... that just avoids alot of trouble but also makes it so that AA doesn't really help. Relevant studies show only genetic and psychological/neurological precursors. Statistics show alot of things... you want me to go get some Marijuana stats and post 'em here to see if you agree with any of them?


So it is not a question of "fault" at all.

Um... yes... YES it is. It's your fault for picking up the bottle. It's not like something triggers in your brain that makes you drink.


Well that is certainly a well thought out opinion and I agree with about 99% of what you are saying. I just get irratated when people look down on drug addicts (not saying thats what you're doing, just seemed like it), as I think its kind of like looking down on someone for having cancer. Overcoming severe drug addiction is one of the hardest things someone can do, and although I respect a recovering drug addict more than anything else, I really think they deserved to be treated as sick people and not as people who have made a mistake.

Lateralus was a great album.

No one is looking down on the addicts because of their addiction... it's the addicts that spread lies about how this and this drug really ruined my life and blah blah blah. That is what annoys the rest of us. Done and done.

[moe]

The other day me and these 2 kids were getting a dub and when the dealer comes up to the car. He tells us hes got acid and i ask him how much and shit he was like 15$ per hit so i was like fuck that. The my friend proceed to tell me that acod kills tons of brain cell and drips in to your spinal fluid and stays there. iNow i tell them that is bull shit but htey don't beileve me and one of the kids tells my sister.Today she tells me she found out and says that u can die really easily from it and all my brian cells will be dead. i tell her she is ignorant about drugs and ask her where she got that info of course there was no answer. I've also been agruing with these kids about how weed doesn't kill brain cells they don't believe me about that either. This really pisses me off sorry for the rant anybody else know people like this?


Just living kills brain cells lol Biology 101..lol Moe