trichome have a question

[mobay]

i went and brought another light , 1000w hps what kind of time should i be on? 24/7 , 12/12 , or what? 2 weeks old and looking good.

[Trichome Creator]

I always use 24/0 for vegatative growth and 12/12 for the flowering cycle. Cannabis in vegatative growth does not require a dark period to rest from photosynthesis. Think of your plant growing outside. Pretty much getting 12 hours of lights a day. Now imagine that plant getting eternal sunshine. With 24/0 you can get two outdoor days in one day indoors. This will cut down your growing time by 50% compared to outdoor growing or by one and a half if you just did the 18/6.

[mobay]

thanks for that info. at which week do you start your 12/12? also i have the light 24 inches away from plant with a fan blowing in between. exhaust vent in on and my humidity is about 35%. put a bowl of water in the room trying to increase the humidity.

[Trichome Creator]

-What strain are you growing so I can estimate when flowering will begin?
-Humidity is really low there. Might want to look into a humidifier.

[highjinx]

its really up to you when to flower. (bigger plant, more bud!)
but anytime after 3 weeks of veg will be ok!

[mobay]

i got these seeds from jamacia last month the weed was super strong.

[Trichome Creator]

Depends how large you want the plants to be you can flower about 1 to 3 months after vegging.

[mobay]

took some pics, the plants were a little over 6ft tall.

[Trichome Creator]

As long as calax formation begins you can induce flowering.

[mobay]

new at this . what is calax formation?

[Trichome Creator]

small nodes appear between stem and branch.

[mobay]

sexing the plants, ok gottcha. iam keeping an eye out for the male plant.

[mobay]

iam having a problem with the heat and humidity. i brought a humidifier have that running its at 40% now, and the temp is at 90%. i have the exhust fan running and a fan between the hps and the plants. i have a fan blowing fresh air in underneath the door. grow room is 4x6 with a 1000w hps. any pointers?

[mobay]

the light is 2 ft off the top of plant.

[Trichome Creator]

iam having a problem with the heat and humidity. i brought a humidifier have that running its at 40% now, and the temp is at 90%. i have the exhust fan running and a fan between the hps and the plants. i have a fan blowing fresh air in underneath the door. grow room is 4x6 with a 1000w hps. any pointers?

I'm assuming your growroom is 6 feet tall by 4 feet wide? You will have to give me the depth of the room as well before I could calculate the Cubic Square Feet of that particular space. Until you get that information to me I can tell you this. You should have your exhaust blower mounted near the top of the room and have the intake at the bottom. Having air blow in under the door should be fine and is known as a (Passive Intake). Remember cool air stays near the floor and heat rises. The farther up you go the hotter it's going to get. If you could get me some good pics of the entire room and the door maybe I can design something up for you. How many cfm's is your exhaust fan rated for? Remember I need the exact measurment too. Height Width and depth. Have a good night.

[BkSkillz]

1000w hps for 3 2 week old plants at 24 inches away isnt that overkill?

[J DOG 6000]

From seed it is recomended that you veg for 6 weeks at least to get the full potential of the yield and overall health...clones don't matter cause they are geneticly identical to the mother which should have veged for more then 6 weeks anyway.
This is the truth guys,you can flower early but it wont be at it's full potential.

[mobay]

the grow room is 4x6x8, a spare bathroom i converted to a grow room.

[mobay]

more pics

[mobay]

switched back to the flo lights, temp is good, humidity is good, no serious problems from that little scare. how often should i be watering these plants?

[mobay]

temp pic

[mobay]

i will keep it like this for the next 5 weeks.

[Trichome Creator]

Your growroom is 192 Cubic Square Feet. You should be using an exhaust blower with a CFM rating of over 192. Heres a few images of some good exhaust blowers for sale. http://www.gchydro.com/detail.asp?product_id=XACTIVAIR If I were you I would at least be using a 265CFM model. It's reccomended that you reintroduce new air into the growroom at least once every five minutes. For optimal results you can reintroduce new air every one minute. With the 265CFM model you will be exganging old air for new air 1 and 3/4 times every minute. That will help reduce your heat problems if you install it correctly near the top of the room or door. That room you have there could be a really nice set up if you were serious about it. If you want me to design you a professional growrrom and you have cash to buy the equipment I will draw up plans for you. You could get quite a few plants in there and if you sold some of what you grew you would have your money back in no time flat. Anyways lemme know. Water when the container feels almost dry. ALMOST.

[Trichome Creator]

You can use the HPS light right now. A good way to tell if its too close is to place your hand right over the top of the plants. If your hand feels uncomfortable so will your plants. So just adjust the light. It's 100 times better than fluros. If you insist on the fluros keep them no more than 2 inches from the plants or they will stretch to all hell and back.

[mobay]

for me to install a 265cfm in my grow room i would have to cut a hole bigger than my vent hole i already have. also the ventwill push the heat and the smell out to my front yard. any other solutions?

[Trichome Creator]

for me to install a 265cfm in my grow room i would have to cut a hole bigger than my vent hole i already have. also the ventwill push the heat and the smell out to my front yard. any other solutions?

Vent it up into the attic or over the roof possibly. Or a activated charcoal filter. You never told me if you wanted to set up the room professionally.

[mobay]

this is a bathroom i turned into my grow room, sooner or later my old lady is going to tell me to turn it back to a bathroom. lol. i have my own bathroom upstairs which the exhust vents to the top of the roof.there is an attic so i might be able to install that265 cfm there. then again thats my bathroom, iam going to have to share her bathroom for x-amount of weeks. this room is 7x8.

[mscaboo]

what kinda soil are you using and what kinda nutes are you going to use

[mobay]

using miracle-gro potting mix/ w miracle -gro continuous release plant food. feeds plants up to 3 months

[Trichome Creator]

using miracle-gro potting mix/ w miracle -gro continuous release plant food. feeds plants up to 3 months

I despise Miracle Gro. :D Check this out www.foxfarmfertilizer.com

[mobay]

i have used miracle- gro from day 1 , what do you do now?

[mobay]

i got some big bud and white widow coming real soon

[Trichome Creator]

i have used miracle- gro from day 1 , what do you do now?

I'm not growing at the moment. Just moved and have to set up again when I get spare money which isn't going to be anytime soon. But I did use Fox Farm Ocean Organic Potting Soil.

[mobay]

should i go down to 400 hps and close my space a little more or get an air cooled hood for the 1000w hps for the heat problem?

[mobay]

what about the cool light tube? 80.00

[Trichome Creator]

You could use a cool tube. Or you could get an air cooled 1000 watt system. Or you can get a 400 watt system. I have one of those for sale. Click the link below my signature. All three suggestions will work. With a cool tube or air cooled reflector you can get the light alot closer to the plants but you still need to buy an exhaust blower with it. Or buy a 400 watt and you can place it somewhat closer because it does'nt get so hot.

[mobay]

did a little bit of an adjustment with lighting during the veg stage. can you give me a little input on how this looks? added 4/23w soft white flo lights on sides. do the leaves look like they are dropping down. thought it was overwatering so i held off a day. last watering 3 days ago.

[Trichome Creator]

Mobay you told me in a earlier post you had to give the bathoom back eventually. Have you ever thought about building a grow box? The last one I used was 6 feet tall by 4 feet wide and 3 feet deep. I made it look like a pantry and painted it the same color as my wall. You should think about that one. That way you can do alot more than you can in that bathroom since you don't want to alter anything in there.

http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/growbox_guide.php

[Trichome Creator]

The side lights will help. They look a little overwatered but not alot. Just water them when the container feels almost dry. Is that foil your using? If it is make dure its "dull" side out so you don't create any hotspots that will burn your plants. I use mylar myself. Did I show you this before? www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/

[mobay]

see i have alot of space where i can build one but my girl smokes cigs and isnt that a bad thing for the plants. if not we can start building one tommorrow. thats one place she doesnt go. iam going to have to do something real soon because, iam getting a new front door installer on the 9th, and my growroom is right there. so if it can be done , lets build. i dont have nothing but time on my hands.

[Trichome Creator]

see i have alot of space where i can build one but my girl smokes cigs and isnt that a bad thing for the plants. if not we can start building one tommorrow. thats one place she doesnt go. iam going to have to do something real soon because, iam getting a new front door installer on the 9th, and my growroom is right there. so if it can be done , lets build. i dont have nothing but time on my hands.

Here's some inspiration for ya. :thumbsup:

[Trichome Creator]

Now this was my last shit.

[Trichome Creator]

And a couple more.

[Trichome Creator]

I have compiled a list of construction materials you will need to build your very own grow box. You'll have to cut the wood to the size you need or Lowe's and Home Depot will cut it at no charge.

Grow Chamber Construction Material Requirements

- Wood Studs 1"x2"x8' [To Build Inner Frame For Strength]
- Particle Board 3/4"x4'x8' [To Build Outer Walls]
- White Tile 4"x4" or 6"x6" [To Use For Floor Of Grow Chamber]
- Door Hinges [To Secure Door To Walls]
- Door Pull Handle [Door Knob]
- Cam Lock [To Lock Grow Chamber For Security]
- Eave Vent [For Passive Air Intake
- Door Sealant Tape [To Adhere To Door Seam To Block Light]
- Aluminum Tape [For Taping Mylar To Inner Walls Of Chamber]
- White Paint [For Painting Outside Of Grow Box]
- Silicone Sealant [To Seal Corners Of Wood Frame]
- Surge Protector [Power Supply]

Total Cost At Lowe's Or Home Depot $140.00
:thumbsup:

[Trichome Creator]

Try not to laugh at my drawing but this is how you would want to set it up inside.

[mobay]

what happening trichome creator , people having a lot of questions for you. ok iam having an attic ladder installed tommorrow so i will be ablbe to make my grow box. iam going to use your diagram to make it. its going to be 3x3x5. what cfm would i have to get for exhaust, without the cool tube?

[Trichome Creator]

what happening trichome creator , people having a lot of questions for you. ok iam having an attic ladder installed tommorrow so i will be ablbe to make my grow box. iam going to use your diagram to make it. its going to be 3x3x5. what cfm would i have to get for exhaust, without the cool tube?

Thats 45 Cubic Square Feet. So you need a exhaust fan rated higher in CFM's than 45. Five feet going to be tall enough for you? You have to subtract at least one foot from that for light distance and another foot fo the size of the containers alone. I'd go 6 feet minimum

[amstron]

I always use 24/0 for vegatative growth and 12/12 for the flowering cycle. Cannabis in vegatative growth does not require a dark period to rest from photosynthesis. Think of your plant growing outside. Pretty much getting 12 hours of lights a day. Now imagine that plant getting eternal sunshine. With 24/0 you can get two outdoor days in one day indoors. This will cut down your growing time by 50% compared to outdoor growing or by one and a half if you just did the 18/6.
True, but if you have a 1000 watt light 6hours a day of being off could be a fair drop in electricity and not do that much difference (if your patient)

[Trichome Creator]

True, but if you have a 1000 watt light 6hours a day of being off could be a fair drop in electricity and not do that much difference (if your patient)

This is true. 18/6 will save money on power however 24/0 will produce faster results. It's up to your situation.

[amstron]

I think thats the fastest answer ive ever seen, 2 mins after I did my post lol

[Trichome Creator]

I think thats the fastest answer ive ever seen, 2 mins after I did my post lol

I'm watching. :D

[mobay]

hey trichome creator what do you think about the sunlight sheds good ideal or not?

[Trichome Creator]

hey trichome creator what do you think about the sunlight sheds good ideal or not?

They are nice but I just always build my own because I can make it whatever size I want and it's a hell of alot cheaper. :) If you are not good at building though they are ideal.

www.sunlightsheds.com

[Trichome Creator]

Mobay you should watch this movie. Don't worry it's free. It'll help you with design and growing :)

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=42385

[mobay]

i already downloaded it, havent watched it yet

[mobay]

just finished the frame work, make my cuts tommorrow. what do you think?

[mobay]

will the 1000w hps be good in this 3x2x6, or get a 400w hps, and a 400w mh?

[mobay]

just ordered a kool tube, rotating fan, 95cfm fan. 400 bucks so far. and it is a whole lot cheaper than 2 grand.

[mobay]

got my white widow and big bud in today .

[Trichome Creator]

OMG that room looks great!!! You can use 1000 watts in there as long as you air cool the hood and have a glass insert for it. You'll need 265cfms to exhaust 1000 watts though so maybe you can get by with the 400 watt light.

[turtle420]

just finished the frame work, make my cuts tommorrow. what do you think?


I like it! ;) :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[Trichome Creator]

Your bringing a tear to my eye. Really :)

[amstron]

hey man, you should fill that room with plants if you have a 1000watt light, also I would veg them for a while seeing as youve got a lot of light. Top them or bend them over when a little older and make youself 3 big bushes. Cant think of a solution for ventilation sorry, what floor are you on, if neer a roof you could send air out of the roof

[amstron]

sorry, only saw the first page

[Trichome Creator]

Mobay I missed the post where you said you bought a cool tube. Yes you can use 1000 watt lights now. Needs 265cfms to cool it though with tubing attached to the cool tube.

[mobay]

good they got my e-mail just in time to switch from 95cfm, to 265 cfm. everything should be here in a couple of days. i just might make a 3ft box for my seedlings and veg. growth. lol how does it look so far

[turtle420]

I like it!

Again!

[mobay]

thanks, saw dust everywhere. lol

[turtle420]

What are you growing in it? Soil? Hydro?

[lemonboy]

Wow. That looks great. I wish I was that handy with lumber.

[mobay]

soil, i have them under some flo lights until everything gets to me.then iam going to start flowering in about 2 weeks. 1000w hps. cant wait

[mobay]

white widow and big bud just got here today :D i brought back some weed from jamacia last monthand was running real low so instead of me spending all that money going back. i started planting the seeds. i will post some pics later.

[mobay]

welcome to jamacia, this where we got the weed and seeds from, and this is what we got so far from the seeds.

[Trichome Creator]

God. That looks really good man. I'm so jealous. :)

[Trichome Creator]

what happening trichome creator , people having a lot of questions for you. ok iam having an attic ladder installed tommorrow so i will be ablbe to make my grow box. iam going to use your diagram to make it. its going to be 3x3x5. what cfm would i have to get for exhaust, without the cool tube?

You asked whats happening? You must of missed this thread.
http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=42114

If you need any more advice or have any more questions I'll be here tomorrow. I have to do some things for a neurologist's appointment right now. Keep up the great work. I'm impressed.....really. :thumbsup:

[mobay]

got bored sitting around waiting for the rest of my set up, so i made me a seeding and veg box. tommorrow they put the door in and had to get it from downstairs. what do you think. after 6 weeks they go into the BIG BOX :D .

[mobay]

anyone , i planted my seeds in miracle gro potting mix/ with miracle gro continuous release plant food. it says that it feeds the plants up to 3 months. question is do i need to give then anything else? i have peters 20-20-20. but i havent given the plants any tho. about to set the plants in a grow box here shortly , 1ooow hps

[Trichome Creator]

Looking good. I'm a little cautious about the feeding them alot of nutrients while using miracle gro. You know I hate that crap. :) It has time released fertilizers in it. It's like adderall for your plants. :D

[mobay]

ok thanks , so i will just keep watering them. glad to see your back, hows everything going

[scobbie]

sorry trichome my own system has crashed it is now in being repaired and will have it back on monday as your phone number and email or in there i didnt have your number to call and could not even e mail to let you know very very sorry my friend as soon as my system comes back i will be striaght on to you sorry about the hold up
scobbie

[mobay]

what is causing these spots on just 1 of 3 plants?

[Trichome Creator]

ok thanks , so i will just keep watering them. glad to see your back, hows everything going

Like shit. :D Thanks for asking though. :thumbsup:

[Trichome Creator]

sorry trichome my own system has crashed it is now in being repaired and will have it back on monday as your phone number and email or in there i didnt have your number to call and could not even e mail to let you know very very sorry my friend as soon as my system comes back i will be striaght on to you sorry about the hold up
scobbie

That's ok scobbie. I understand. I have an idea. Give me your phone number in morse code.
:D

[Trichome Creator]

what is causing these spots on just 1 of 3 plants?

That could be a couple things. I'm trying to find out for you. Check this out.
http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/plant_abuse_guide.php until I can get it for you as I've never had spots develop like that. I want to say something nitrogen related but I'm just not sure yet.

[Trichome Creator]

This thread is insanely popular. I'm getting better ratings than Judge Judy! :dance:

[mobay]

your the man

[Trichome Creator]

your the man

I know I know. Well except for that Zandor guy whoever in the hell he is. :D

[mobay]

finally finished my grow box.

[Harvesthetic]

looks real bling-blingy :D all you need is sum spinnin' rims
maybe new idea "Pimp My Growbox"

[Trichome Creator]

That is sweet.

[mobay]

got the plants in their new home . inside the box is 85% steady light is 2 ft away with the cool tube how close can i get it to the plants? i know by doing the hand test but if i get them 1 ft away it wont hurt them will it?

[mobay]

i forgot to cut the extra hole for the intake/exhaust to late in the night to do it today. plus how long do i flower for? going to new york to watch the ball drop on new years

[Trichome Creator]

i forgot to cut the extra hole for the intake/exhaust to late in the night to do it today. plus how long do i flower for? going to new york to watch the ball drop on new years

When the pistils (white hairs) are 60% to 75% orange or reddish in color. If you harvest at 60% the high will be more cerebral (sativa like high) and the later you wait the high will be more couch lock (indica like high). :stoned:

[Trichome Creator]

got the plants in their new home . inside the box is 85% steady light is 2 ft away with the cool tube how close can i get it to the plants? i know by doing the hand test but if i get them 1 ft away it wont hurt them will it?

I feel the hand method is the best way to go. I'm not there to look at it and I don't want to tell you something that I cannot observe for myself. However as long as the cool tube is being ventilated properly you can get it pretty damned close. I used to own a cool tube with a 400 watt hps bulb and got it less than 6 inches away from the plant tops ventilating with a 265cfm active air exhaust blower.

[mobay]

trichome crator i got it now, i cut a hole in the box to put the intake/ exhaust fan in . its working excellent. had to put a humidifier in it as well 83 degrees and 40% humidity. also i pickeed up a moisture reader for the soil.

[Trichome Creator]

trichome crator i got it now, i cut a hole in the box to put the intake/ exhaust fan in . its working excellent. had to put a humidifier in it as well 83 degrees and 40% humidity. also i pickeed up a moisture reader for the soil.

Well.....dude there you have it.
:cool:

[Trichome Creator]

Oh did I mention that since you got your grow chamber setup and plants ready to go that my advice is not free? Yeah I'll need 20% of your growings. LOL. :D

[mobay]

you got it lol. iam going to start taking wekly pics so everyone can see the progress. yeah iam about 200 miles from where you use to live going south.

[Trichome Creator]

you got it lol. iam going to start taking wekly pics so everyone can see the progress. yeah iam about 200 miles from where you use to live going south.

I'm just kiddding bro. You did a good job though and you did it with your own hands.

[mobay]

going to switch to 400w mh tomorrow for the rest of the veg cycle, plants dropping , need to apply CPR. lol :thumbsup:

[Trichome Creator]

wOOt.