Zandor - Hydro grow setup :)

[Joel]

Hey zandor, from your SOG I saw that you and your friend had made that your selves and plan on making more and selling them? Am I right?

If ya are, do you think you could make me a somewhat cheap 4plant hydro setup? I would gladely pay to take it off your hands :rasta:

[turtle420]

Hi Joel!

[Joel]

Hey turtle, hows it going?









Zandor?

[Zandor]

Hey Joel he should put up a 9 plant 400w sog system on eBay today sometime. The exact same system just only for growing 3 plants per tray so you can grow 3-6 or 9 at one time. I'm not sure of the price but I know it will be affordable, like under 150 bucks.

Is that what you are talking about?

[latewood]

Zandor, I would like to e-mail you about three trays like that...maybe 3trays x 4sites
hushmail me if you want.

[Joel]

Hey zandor, yes that is what I am looking for, thank you tons.

Do you have any 500-600w lights that you arent using and you can sell Zandor?
PS , anyone have a cheap 500-600w light, MH or HPS Dont matter, I am going to need 1 of both though forsure.

http://cgi.ebay.ca/2-Tray-8-10-Plant-Drip-System-Hydroponics-light-grow_W0QQitemZ4383278976QQcategoryZ29522QQssPageNa meZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

This is the one I have found and will go forth with if that is not your friends. I plan to pay the 200$ CDN its going to cost me because I can do so much more with it.

Is It possibly to make those trays into 2 seperate trays and make a new res for the other tray and use 1 for clones??

[Zandor]

Joel that's a rockwool growing setup but the price is not bad though.

I will get on to him today, it's still not up.

Latewood dude I can't find your hushmail addy so mine is zandor at pot.com

[jahjahjahjah]

I gotta scrog hydro setup in my closet it works out great, it will produce a high vield. Have a good one.

[Joel]

Thanks!

Hey Zandor, if I bought it off your friend would it be able to come apart into 2 different trays? As I fully intend to grow 2 mothers alone, and take clones and harvest monthly. That is my ideal goal.

[latewood]

Joel, for the mothers you should just get 5 gallon buckets and make bubblers...

[Joel]

Hey latewood, brilliant idea.

So to make the bubbler, I would cut 2 holes in the lid of the 5gal bucket to fit the net pots and a bubbler inside ?

Latewood, if you have already posted this idea on the forums that I have not seen, would you please be kind enough to link me? :)

thanks.

[Zandor]

Problem using 5 gallon buckets for cloners is you need to have a lot of water in the bucket and a lot of bubbles. Try a test run and see how high the bubble wet the area. Average bubbles only reach about 12" or so fyi. less then that and you don't get enough of them or you just don't place the air stones in the bottom. Something to think about anyway.

He put it up last night check it out (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7730294806&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1). I can save you a few bucks just let me know if you want one or not.

[Joel]

Hey Zandor.

Thanks alot man, I will probably buy it come next paycheck because I broke my bong yesterday night and I am not too happy about that. Im going to be buying a new bong and a nice bag of weed to smoke my self silly and forget the wonderfull wonders of my old one.
For sure I will buy one, I love the style it looks like it would fit into my closet nicely, and if not I will just grow it in the corner of my room.
Does the res bucket come with or buy seperate?

For the 5 gal bucket bubbler, what should the water inside consist of to get strong root growth and very healthy plants.

As for CO2, that is still a possibility, but I would have to move my plants out of my room so I dont sufficate :)

Thanks zandor, looking forward to your next reply.

[Zandor]

Bummer about your Bong dude, I broke my glass on galss too last month then I broke 2 of my other bowls. It's been a ruff time for the galss around here too for sure.

He sells everything you see there including the pump, res, & grow rocks too.

For my cloner I use GH 3 part formula 3.0 ml micro, Grow, Bloom per gallon of Ph adjusted RO water. Plus 5-ml of B1 but this time I adjust the Ph before I add the nutrients. Only because the nutrients are week and the buffers have a hard time adjusting Ph on their own.

You can also use Super Thrive Alive but I have better results with the GH formula

[Joel]

Yes seems I get too high with my bong that I can sometimes drop it, I have had the occasional time where it has taken a heafty hit and survived, it only broke into 2 clean pieces wich means it was probably weak around that bubble of the bong.

Anyways, do you have a good website that will sell the nutes you just previously explained to me? I can get about 500-600$ CDN to work with, more if absoloutley needed.

[Zandor]

Well if you have General Hydroponics nutrients delievered you are paying to ship a lot of water too. Is there a local hydro store where you can walk into and buy them? If not then try eBay.

[Joel]

Hey zandor.

I was looking around downtown and in the phone book and dont seem to find a hydro store. I think I will go on ebay to purchase nutes, btw what kind of water are you talking about? As I could probably get that here instead of shipping it.

I got my new bong today and an oz :) Gotta love zongers.

[Zandor]

The water I am talking about is the liquid form of nutrients I use. I don't think GH makes their 3-part nutrient formula into powder form. So if you can't find it locale then you need to order it. I assume you have a good PH pen and TDS pen?

Try eBay there are a few of them that offer free shipping.

[Joel]

Zandor do you know of a way to make a bubbler for 2 mothers from seed in a 5gal?

[turtle420]

Zandor do you know of a way to make a bubbler for 2 mothers from seed in a 5gal?

Maybe with Rockwool... ???

[Joel]

Sure its a possibility but itll have to take some time.

Anyways, anyone know where I can find plans to build a 5gal bucket to fit 2 mothers that will be in netpots.

[Zandor]

Mothers are better held in dirt then hydro and 2-5 gallon buckets work great for mothers. One you drill about 75 to 100 holes in and the other one is the catch bucket for the runoff. That's how I would hold mothers if I were you.

Just make sure you use a 50/50 mix perlite and soil fo quick drainage.

[Joel]

Hey zandor, thanks for your reply.

I will take your advice and plant 2 feminised seeds into soil and hopefully have both of them turnout female as I reviewed a thread earlier about a feminised seed possibly male or hermi.

Zandor, will a 400w HPS w/ hortilux enhanced spectrum be able to keep my 2 mothers at a healthy grow rate and keep the heat down to a minimum in a closet?
Im going to have my mothers in my closet that is in my room, and my clones that are going into that hydro system will be in a closet in my hallway wich I hope I have enough room to fit it in, if not Im growing wide open in my room , wich then I will garbage bag + carboard my windows :). In the event someone comes over to my house and into my room, I will attach a shower curtain :D Uber stealth thinking , haha just joking.

Zandor, are those treys off that system able to take apart and downsize it 6plants, just incase it wont fit and I have to downsize.
What kind of lighting do you think I should have on 6 to 9 clones vegging for 1 week and force flower to bud for 3 weeks & harvest monthly.

[Zandor]

400w is fine for mothers but you need one per pot. don't make the mistake and have 2 mothers in the same pot, that's not a good idea.

Yes you can drop it down to 3, 6, or 9 plants but's it is a SOG system you know.

It's designed to work with a single 400w HPS light.

[Joel]

Alrighty, I will purchase 1 more 400w HPS light than, I am purchasing RastaKaze's on Decemeber 21st. With that check I will hopefully still have enough money to buy the system and then my seeds so I can get this badboy going.

I was just in my basement looking threw my equiptment and found , Schultz potting soil, Schultz Iron green 8-0-0 , 2 timers , rooting powder, scissors for pruning/cloning, spray bottle. I still have to pick up a PH and a TDS pen and then I think Im good to go.

Zandor as you were mentioning before about the water going into the hydro system & the res, I have to purchase some kind of powder? Does it get mixxed in with the water?

As for 2 plants in 1 5gal bucket, I know that as I am not complete newb to soil growing but to hydro I am, but I am learning and taking the correct steps to fufill my objective. As I carryed on digging around my basement storage & grow equiptment I came across my 6 fluorecent 60w lights so they may come in use to me for when I start new seeds or different clones to be new mothers, also found 2 5gal buckets and I will fill them with 50% Schultz potting soil and 50% perlite , I will drill 75 holes in the bottom of the containers for drainage.

Thanks alot zandor, much more information you can give me is much more appreciated.

[Zandor]

I check and GH does not sell their 3-part in powder form. There are a few sellers on ebay that offer free shipping and a quart of each will last you a full grow and then some.

Joel do I have an email for you???

I think so zandor at pot.com

drop me a line before you order any nutrients or ph products. I can pick up a quart for you of each of them and just add the cost to the system. I don't think it will change the cost for shipping at all now that I think about it.

We can't buy nutrients wholesale yet but working on it.

[Joel]

Awesome zandor.

I could do that with my next check, that would be roughly how much $$ CDN.
I will be sure to email ya to give you addy to setup how you want to be payed and so forth.

[latewood]

I have been leaning towards having mothers in soil/medium...sorry, Joel
I figure that it will be so much more manageable, because my dwc "mothers" are growing 'apeshit'...I could control that in soil...later

Joel I do have some threads I have been wanting to post start/finish
re-veg...
cloning my way, a new experiment that worked for us hydroton growers...
cfl light wiring how-to...
perpetual growing...
and my newest idea is: My system is designed to be aero-drip-circulating dwc, so I am going to do a clone grow with 3 different tub using the 3 different methods all at once...side by side...lw

I have just been too busy, too sick, too tired,...I am feeling better and I have caught up with a few things i needed to address...Got some new hardware and supplies tonight, so watch for updates...
ps I am going to add shortcuts to my ongoing threads to my signature, real soon...lw


Mothers are better held in dirt then hydro and 2-5 gallon buckets work great for mothers. One you drill about 75 to 100 holes in and the other one is the catch bucket for the runoff. That's how I would hold mothers if I were you.

Just make sure you use a 50/50 mix perlite and soil fo quick drainage.

[Joel]

Awesome man, I will grow 2 mother feminised plants on wich strain Im not sure yet any suggestions? 2 mothers in 5gal rubbermaid with Schultz Potting Soil.
One closet out of the 2 I am using will be dedicated to these 2 inperticular, my other bigger grow will be done in my hallway where no one can see anything from my room.