Vatican Paper: Homosexuality destabalizes society

[amsterdam]

What are people's thoughts on this?

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=topNews&storyid=2005-11-29T153741Z_01_SIB956185_RTRUKOC_0_US-POPE-GAYS-VATICAN.xml&rpc=22

[MudFu]

It is a prime example of people fearing what they do not understand. I agree that M/M or F/F relationships are not as important then F/M in the sence that F/M have the ability of reproducing. But thats all. Those Roman Catholics are always upset about something...

[mrdevious]

and once again, these nust go on and on about how homesexuality "destroys the moral fabric of society!" or " is immoral in every way" or "is an atrocity to nature!" etc. etc. but as usual, no explanation whatsoever as to how it does these things is given :rolleyes:

[Polymirize]

Mud-fu: So the purpose of a relationship is reproduction? Funny, I've always thought it had to do with the bond between two people.

[beachguy in thongs]

Everything they say is basically true. Homosexuality=IncompleteSexuality.
Once the Human Race goes Gay, it can never go back. At the moment, We are Bisexual.

[MudFu]

Ok I didn't mean it that way Lol. Well I did but I didn't mean it as the sole purpose. I was thinking more on the lines of Sex not relationships.

[sugarmagnolia]

hmmm.... homosexuality opposes priestly life? true but then again so does heterosexuality. If a priest can't fuck why do they give a shit who's fucking who?

[beachguy in thongs]

I know it's everyones choice, and I stand behind what their sexual preferences are. Figuratively. We're all, supposedly, Brothers and Sisters, upon this Earth.

Would you want a gay brother? If you're a man, leaving it up to you to keep the family name alive? If you're a woman (I prefer to call females "girls", it makes them sound cuter), you'd have to rely on your other brothers, or say "fuck it". Again, it's fun to touch guys, if you're gay and awesome to caress girls, if you're a lesbian but the Priests are worried because they have no control over reproduction.

[sugarmagnolia]

the church doesn't know how to manage the population in my opinion. You got so many people that can't feed there families that just keep reproducing and following the request of the Church to reprduce. The Earth could use a good reduction in the amount of humans.

[sugarmagnolia]

I can see how in the religious foundation's eyes nothing is more important than their good followers reproducing and furthering the power of the church. i suppose there may be some thought process behind the church's opinions after all.

[jbuckets]

there have always been gay people, and there always will be, just something you gotta live with ... but dont give them equal marriage rights... its jst kinda creepy ... and fuck all that pride bullshit they are jsut trying to make themselves feel less empty

[MudFu]

Would you want a gay brother?

And that has to dow ith anything...I do not care if my brother turns out gay. Why should I? As long as he is happy then I'm ok with it. It is his life. Why? Would you reject and disown your brother if he was gay? Not a very happy family if you do.

[jbuckets]

fuck gay people!

they're...umm....GAY!

[mrdevious]

Well personally I'm very concerned about the spread of homosexuality, the world can't seem to produce enough people as it is!


now lets face it, if gays can come out of strait society I'm sure straits can come out of a 100% gay society (as if that would happen). after all guys, if you were born in such a world would none of you have a hankering for some boobies? ;)

[F L E S H]

It's simply appalling. Religion will spell the end of the human race unless we snap out of it soon.

Besides, that the Vatican bans homosexuals from becoming priests makes absolutely no sense. Priests are supposed to be celibate anyway, none of them are even allowed to THINK about having sex. So how can that even come up in the conversation when you want to become a priest? It's beyond me.

[Psycho4Bud]

So how can that even come up in the conversation when you want to become a priest? It's beyond me.

I suppose it could be a multiple choice question:

How do you feel about Alter Boys?

A) They do the job
B) They get in the way
C) Their real cute!
D) A and C

[Sir Les]

A bond between two people doesn't mean sexual relations!
Just like a bond between a animal or pet...
But in both instances their are exceptions that should not be!
Is it right, if people started screwing the animals?
Some are doing just that today as was yesterday!
If they become numerious enough in society, then what will happen?
Will the church have to wed animals to people?

Thus we have the same mindset towards Gay, and Lesbians, with the wedlock!
The wedlock is for "man and woman"..even though they are of the same flesh, God made the different enough to match each other!
One having the reproductive organ, and the mate has the sperm to fertilize the egg!....,aking Love is to make new life!
What is causing this mindset to be born in opposite is something science should look into!
Is it Genetic, environmental, spiritual..... delusion of space time?
will they finally solve the problem by making the sorce code correct!

Gay and lesbians eventually want a family...now how does this get satisfied?
They break up the "male female unit", and take their children!
Thus here is where the problem exists!

This is my solution: look down at your genitailia..
Is it male, or female, or both...
That dictates your gender...in this reality.
So stop lying to your selves, and get with the program!
Hypnotism, and electric shock treatments might help the real hard cases!
And denial of the wedlock is right!
Bringing these errors before God in the church asking for wedlock is foolishness!
:thumbsup:

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Hypnotism, and electric shock treatments might help the real hard cases!

fuck gay people!

:rolleyes:
nfm

[beachguy in thongs]

It's simply appalling. Religion will spell the end of the human race unless we snap out of it soon.

Besides, that the Vatican bans homosexuals from becoming priests makes absolutely no sense. Priests are supposed to be celibate anyway, none of them are even allowed to THINK about having sex. So how can that even come up in the conversation when you want to become a priest? It's beyond me.

That's the thing. How can you be celibate if you're a homosexual? I don't think priests are even supposed to be monosexual, are they?

[F L E S H]

That's the thing. How can you be celibate if you're a homosexual? I don't think priests are even supposed to be monosexual, are they?
They're supposed to be beyond sexuality, they're not supposed to feel any sexual urges whatsoever. So what difference does it make if they're gay?

[beachguy in thongs]

If they're gay, then there having homosexual urges. If they are just dorky and faggotty, then okay, but if they're supposed to not have sex with a woman, what makes having it with a man, okay? Priests should abstain from fucking guys up the ass, that territory's for the girls.

[MudFu]

the world can't seem to produce enough people as it is!

I think you have that mixed up, the world is producing to many people. In a span of 50-100+ years the world will be over populated.


Gay and lesbians eventually want a family...now how does this get satisfied?
They break up the "male female unit", and take their children!

This isn't fully true. What about adoption? And when a male or female decides to help out the gay/lez couple, it still involves a male and female. The child is still blood related to one of the gay/lez people. You need more convincing reasons then this if you want to make an argument about homo families.


Priests should abstain from fucking guys up the ass, that territory's for the girls.

Personally I see anal are a gay mans sex method. I will not preform anal because if I wanted to fuck someone in the ass then why not fuck a guy. Nope sorry. Pussys only.

[beachguy in thongs]

Sorry, I didn't mean it that way. I meant a girl playing with a guy's ass.

[vincevaper]

I know it's everyones choice, and I stand behind what their sexual preferences are.

The scientifically correct as well as the politically correct would point out to you that 'preference' is a false and derogatory term to use for what is in fact an orientation.


fuck all that pride bullshit they are jsut trying to make themselves feel less empty

Actually it's all a conspiracy to scare you witless! Oops... too late.


Everything they say is basically true. Homosexuality=IncompleteSexuality.

By your logic, gays and lesbians are less than human. Sexuality is not all about mechanics. Food for thought: not all gay men enjoy or practice anal sex.

H O M O S E X U A L I T Y is more natural than a condom, so what's a catholic to be surprised about?

[MudFu]

Everything they say is basically true. Homosexuality=IncompleteSexuality.

What I think he means by this is that their is no purpose to their sexual actions. Logicly thinking, a straight couple has the ability of reproducings. Homosexuals are unable to do that in their relationship, sex for them is just pelasure while the straight couple has somewhat more meaning. So in that sence he was right by saying that.

[vincevaper]

I disagree. There is much more to sex than mechanics (of reproduction or of physical pleasure), especially for humans. Unless, of course, you are suggesting that heterosexuals are the subhumans who suffer from incomplete relationships.

Maybe Aunt Ida was right: "The world of the heterosexual is a sick and boring life."

[beachguy in thongs]

By your logic, gays and lesbians are less than human. Sexuality is not all about mechanics. Food for thought: not all gay men enjoy or practice anal sex.

No, sorry you got the wrong idea. I was using their words. Still, I was making a correlation to you can't fit a square inside a circle. Which would be an oxymoron in this case. The priests don't want homosexual role models. I think there looking at a broader spectrum of things. Who suggested heterosexuals as subhumans? They're the only way the Human Race can survive.

[sugarmagnolia]

oh come on man, heterosexuals are so out. In vetro man...... (sp?) Its the way of the future.

Oh and sex is not only for reproduction. Yes u could say homosexual sex is more for pleasure, but sex is also an act of love. If a man loves a man he should be able to express this love without people saying he is wasting sperm.

[vincevaper]

Who suggested heterosexuals as subhumans? They're the only way the Human Race can survive.

That is not true. It takes nothing more than mechanics to produce babies. Ask one of the married gay men you probably know.

[vincevaper]

wasting sperm.

I once knew a guy who felt so guilty whenever he masturbated that he would immediately ask god's forgiveness for 'killing his babies.' The Vatican would no doubt consider such a neurosis as healthy.

[beachguy in thongs]

I remember hearing a story by someone associated with the church that said masturbation should be taught to avoid pre-marital sex. If a man falls in love with a man then they should be able to go to public places and be accepted, but it's hard to find those places. If I loved a guy, I'd feel my Love is for God and He'd accept it. Church and State are seperate, I guess the Love falls in somewhere in between.

I don't even know the point I'm trying to make anymore. Those were insane quotes.

[MudFu]

I disagree. There is much more to sex than mechanics (of reproduction or of physical pleasure), especially for humans. Unless, of course, you are suggesting that heterosexuals are the subhumans who suffer from incomplete relationships.

Ok you clearly didn't understand what I said. What I was saying was that LOGICLY when thinking about the means of having sex, its true meaning which is reproducing, the straight couple has importance while the gay/lex couple can not reproduce. You need the man and the woman to make a child, if you choose to have the child naturaly and not made in a test tube or implanted in you. Now not thinking logicly I agree with you and your aunt Lol.