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woaaahh
11-26-2005, 08:09 AM
Does anyone out there believe in reincarnation? I believe, personally that our soul extends into every generation into every space of time that human existed. That we were once people of every period of history. I believe that we reflect our previous live's in the life we currently are consumed with. Just a little bit of what i think.

Peace
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beachguy in thongs
11-26-2005, 01:12 PM
That's a Pagan view...? Wouldn't you say?

I think that it's impossible, but it's a very deep thought.

MudFu
11-26-2005, 03:48 PM
If it was true then would this mean that we make the same friends as we did in other life times? Will I meet all my friends, unknowningly, in my next life? and for all my other lives?

I personally thought of this many times. That we are giving chances to be accepted into God's heaven. He sets us to earth and waits for us to become the best we can, either in this life or the next. By this eatch is Limbo. We are trapped until we are ready. I have long since changed my ideas of God, and I find that I have little faith in much of anything.

Stoner Shadow Wolf
11-26-2005, 06:07 PM
That's a Pagan view...? Wouldn't you say?

I think that it's impossible, but it's a very deep thought.the mind is impossible, the literal saying, nothing is impossible.

we are that nothing that is impossible, that impossible nothing is the only true truth, that true truth which we are.


we are bodiless, boundless, nothings called egos that can inhabit (or possess if you will) an infant child at birth, losing all memory of pre-birth life.


this is reincarnation.

Euphoric
12-27-2005, 12:35 PM
Repent (http://www.peta.org/) you wicked servant!

Choose you master!

You can only love one!

You can serve the world and feast on the lusts of the flesh (http://www.mcdonalds.com/) or you can serve My Son (http://www.kelloggs.com/brand/msfarms/)! It is impossible to serve both! My Word declares it and this personal prophecy Revelation 18 warning from the LORD 2006 repeats it now!

You say My Son is a liar and deny His teaching. Your teachers teach you lies from Satan. Your prophets seduce you and sell you prophecy that is false and from the pit and if you can't even accept the milk (http://www.silkissoy.com/index.php?sid=Home) of the Word you fat babies, how can you ever accept the meat?

CocaCola
12-27-2005, 01:39 PM
I believe that reincarnation is what happens sometime after death. Living a new (And most likely...) human life and learning a new set of things you need to learn and experiencing another life but with no recollection of your past one. (Well, not right away) I believe that when you go on to your next life, that it is just an extension to your many previous lives and that you will keep going foward through "lives" until you've learnt your lessons.

beachguy in thongs
12-27-2005, 06:13 PM
I believe that we are currently time traveling, and it's a more plausible theory than reincarnation.

CocaCola
12-27-2005, 07:27 PM
You're right... we're all on the spacetime continuum so we're always time traveling, of course. But what happens after your death? You're just nothing? There isn't even a concept of nothing, so how could you be nothing? You continue in some way... you must... everything in this universe is in constant motion effecting other things... if you die and stop then everything stops. You're God!@1

beachguy in thongs
12-27-2005, 08:43 PM
If you believe in a spirit, your spirit continues to live. Otherwise, your soul is confined to your bones. If you don't believe in a soul, then an angel must save you, after your death. If you don't believe in angels, you have no choice. It's up to them whether you live or die. If you live, you'll gain spirit. If you die, maybe you go to purgatory. Maybe you cease to exist on any level. Maybe God will wake you up.

That started out pretty much as a flame in the wind (bullshit)... :what:

As opposed to three sheets. :stoned:

CocaCola
12-27-2005, 08:59 PM
Well, what happens if you don't believe in any of that bullshit (including Purgatory, which is more BS)? You just don't exist on any level, you say? So your body is just worm food and that's it? Well, I guess no one can ever know...

Pyramidsonmars
01-08-2006, 06:39 AM
I believe that we are currently time traveling, and it's a more plausible theory than reincarnation.

I had to laugh

Pyramidsonmars
01-08-2006, 06:41 AM
Well, what happens if you don't believe in any of that bullshit (including Purgatory, which is more BS)? You just don't exist on any level, you say? So your body is just worm food and that's it? Well, I guess no one can ever know...

If you believe in God than it should be plausible to believe he will give us some kind of "hint" somewhere in our lives...a BIG hint.

Fuck yeah modest mouse:

"I'm in this place that I call home
my brains the cliff and my heart's the bitter buffalo

Stoner Shadow Wolf
01-08-2006, 08:07 AM
big hint? screw that, i feel like i've been getting a lot of BIG hints... i need an OBVIOUS hint lol

Oneironaut
01-08-2006, 09:26 AM
Reincarnation is a nonsense idea. If my "soul" is recycled into another human being, yet that person knows nothing of my life or who I am, what does it mean to say that that person is me? So far as I'm concerned, who I am is based on my experiences and memories, combined with the particular body I find myself inhabiting. Everything I have experienced has had an effect on me, and the sum of all those effects is my personality. A new person with my "soul" but none of my memories would form his own personality based on his own experiences, and would not be related to me in any identifiable way.

Then again, the very idea of a soul is also a nonsense idea. What does it mean to be immaterial? The only immaterial things I can think of are non-existent things. If something is immaterial, i.e. made of nothing, then it doesn't exist. I can't conceive of something that doesn't exist yet exists at the same time, like gods our souls which are supposedly not made of anything yet still somehow in the realm of existence.

If something is "supernatural", it is not part of the natural world, i.e. it cannot be observed or detected. All supernatural entities have no influence on the natural world, otherwise they would be part of the knowable and observable natural world. Souls are claimed to be immaterial and supernatural. How can they possibly affect our world then? How do they not influence physical reality in some measurable way to make our bodies act out our decisions, thereby including themselves in the realm of the natural? They would have to, logically speaking. And then they would not be supernatural entities anymore. They would be some sort of physical reality. A few hundred years ago pretty much everybody believed that the soul was indeed a physical reality, but they imagined it to be kind of a transparent ether-like substance. Now we know that they were partly right. The mind is a physical structure, but it manifests itself as the brain. The brain is your mind, and your mind is your brain. When your brain dies, so does your mind and your consciousness. Unless somebody revives your brain and puts it into a new body, reincarnation just isn't going to happen.

Euphoric
03-01-2006, 04:55 PM
Don't worry folks, because reincarnation will be possible in the future using advanced technosynergic computers.

Euphoric
03-01-2006, 05:09 PM
Repent (http://www.peta.org/) you wicked servant!

Choose you master!

You can only love one!

You can serve the world and feast on the lusts of the flesh (http://www.mcdonalds.com/) or you can serve My Son (http://www.kelloggs.com/brand/msfarms/)! It is impossible to serve both! My Word declares it and this personal prophecy Revelation 18 warning from the LORD 2006 repeats it now!

You say My Son is a liar and deny His teaching. Your teachers teach you lies from Satan. Your prophets seduce you and sell you prophecy that is false and from the pit and if you can't even accept the milk (http://www.silkissoy.com/index.php?sid=Home) of the Word you fat babies, how can you ever accept the meat?

hmm i wrote that on a particularly rough patch of dxm induced delusion. I actually posted a few totally insane things around the spirituality board (including one that linked ancient temples to movies that somehow correlated to endtimes prophecy). Just a phase, i guess. I also believed i was an archangel. aha madness. see what happens when u read the bible on dxm? :o
I still wholeheartedly support a vegan lifestyle as morally superior but i dont think the connection to the christian biblical apocolypse is..quite accurate. although our reckless meat consumtion will probably be a catalyst towards our extinction.

mrdevious
03-01-2006, 07:44 PM
hmm i wrote that on a particularly rough patch of dxm induced delusion. I actually posted a few totally insane things around the spirituality board (including one that linked ancient temples to movies that somehow correlated to endtimes prophecy). Just a phase, i guess. I also believed i was an archangel. aha madness. see what happens when u read the bible on dxm? :o
I still wholeheartedly support a vegan lifestyle as morally superior but i dont think the connection to the christian biblical apocolypse is..quite accurate. although our reckless meat consumtion will probably be a catalyst towards our extinction.

lol, well that explains why you were talking like you are god.

beachguy in thongs
03-01-2006, 09:38 PM
hmm i wrote that on a particularly rough patch of dxm induced delusion. I actually posted a few totally insane things around the spirituality board (including one that linked ancient temples to movies that somehow correlated to endtimes prophecy). Just a phase, i guess. I also believed i was an archangel. aha madness. see what happens when u read the bible on dxm? :o
I still wholeheartedly support a vegan lifestyle as morally superior but i dont think the connection to the christian biblical apocolypse is..quite accurate. although our reckless meat consumtion will probably be a catalyst towards our extinction.
That's why I stick to Chocolate & Peanut Butter Cap 'n' Crunch.
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sm0k1t
03-02-2006, 07:02 PM
I wont say I believe in reincarnation or wathever but I know 1 thing

die an happy man..that's all

I also know that when you are happy you have more energy so that energy goes somewhere when you die...dunno where and actually I dont really care since for now we sure as hell dont know what happens for sure when we die

I'll stick with the important things like what to do with the time I have today to be proud of myself. Keep the energy flowin peacefully.

bah what do I know anyway..right?

I wonder what revelations or ideas you have if you are high and on your deathbed...must be pretty wicked toughts hehe

Lawnmower love
03-03-2006, 03:10 AM
if reincarnation is real then how has the population on earth been growing?

MoonStarer420
03-03-2006, 03:31 AM
if reincarnation is real then how has the population on earth been growing?

Well, it explains why a lot of species are going extinct, they all want to be human....j/k Fucking inconsiderate Homo sapiens

PureEvil760
03-03-2006, 08:45 AM
Reincarnation is a nonsense idea. If my "soul" is recycled into another human being, yet that person knows nothing of my life or who I am, what does it mean to say that that person is me? So far as I'm concerned, who I am is based on my experiences and memories, combined with the particular body I find myself inhabiting. Everything I have experienced has had an effect on me, and the sum of all those effects is my personality. A new person with my "soul" but none of my memories would form his own personality based on his own experiences, and would not be related to me in any identifiable way.

Then again, the very idea of a soul is also a nonsense idea. What does it mean to be immaterial? The only immaterial things I can think of are non-existent things. If something is immaterial, i.e. made of nothing, then it doesn't exist. I can't conceive of something that doesn't exist yet exists at the same time, like gods our souls which are supposedly not made of anything yet still somehow in the realm of existence.

If something is "supernatural", it is not part of the natural world, i.e. it cannot be observed or detected. All supernatural entities have no influence on the natural world, otherwise they would be part of the knowable and observable natural world. Souls are claimed to be immaterial and supernatural. How can they possibly affect our world then? How do they not influence physical reality in some measurable way to make our bodies act out our decisions, thereby including themselves in the realm of the natural? They would have to, logically speaking. And then they would not be supernatural entities anymore. They would be some sort of physical reality. A few hundred years ago pretty much everybody believed that the soul was indeed a physical reality, but they imagined it to be kind of a transparent ether-like substance. Now we know that they were partly right. The mind is a physical structure, but it manifests itself as the brain. The brain is your mind, and your mind is your brain. When your brain dies, so does your mind and your consciousness. Unless somebody revives your brain and puts it into a new body, reincarnation just isn't going to happen.

Sounds like ur forming ur very own religeon..fake like all the others good job!

verklingen
03-03-2006, 02:55 PM
Hi guys, kinda new to this site. I posted this on another forum, but it is so pertinent here that I couldn't resist reiterating it for the folk here.

Consider the metal iron. Although it is the most abundant metal on the Earth, it is only found in nature in combination with sulfur and oxygen. In order to isolate the iron, our Iron Age ancestors learned that they could use fire to burn away the impurities leaving pure iron behind. This process is called smelting. The more times one does this, the more pure the iron will become.

I view death as a kind of smelting process. Whatever right and just works you have wrought throughout your life are like atoms of iron. Likewise, whatever unjust works you wrought are atoms of various impurities. The process of death is like a fire which burns away these impurities, leaving your spirit clean, but not yet whole. The more pure your spirit, the easier and less painful this process becomes. We all continue this cycle, hoping to live our life in such a way that will leave no impurities to be burnt away when we die. Having acheived thus, the pure spirit passes through the fires of death unscathed and there he remains, never to return to the mortal world.

So in short, yes; reincarnation does occur and is an inherent part of existence.

mrdevious
03-03-2006, 04:16 PM
if reincarnation is real then how has the population on earth been growing?

Tradtional Hindu beliefs hold that that there are 24 different realms of reality in which different forms of life live in each, some exporting more souls while others importing. There's are also a small amount of buddhist sects that hold this belief, however I don't personally.

note that there also exists the buddhist concept of rebirth, which is often confused to mean the same thing as reincarnation, but it is not.


Sounds like ur forming ur very own religeon..fake like all the others good job!

From what I read he wasn't proposing a religious philosophy at all, merely basing a belief on the empiracle evidence we have thus far. He's basing this theory using the method of doubt, which can sometimes be right or wrong, but certainly is not religious.

beachguy in thongs
03-03-2006, 04:48 PM
Sounds like ur forming ur very own religeon..fake like all the others good job!
The supernatural can be fictional, as is his definition of it, or it can be something we don't understand.

Cannabis heals with supernatural powers. Less than 30 years ago, the U.S. government was paying scientists to find something wrong with it's healing capability. As soon as we make Cannabis non-supernatural, it will be legalized.

I felt like typing something, my cigarette's burning out, and I'm leaving.

^^^ Sounded good, though.

MaryJaneScott
03-03-2006, 06:32 PM
Hi guys, kinda new to this site. I posted this on another forum, but it is so pertinent here that I couldn't resist reiterating it for the folk here.

Consider the metal iron. Although it is the most abundant metal on the Earth, it is only found in nature in combination with sulfur and oxygen. In order to isolate the iron, our Iron Age ancestors learned that they could use fire to burn away the impurities leaving pure iron behind. This process is called smelting. The more times one does this, the more pure the iron will become.

I view death as a kind of smelting process. Whatever right and just works you have wrought throughout your life are like atoms of iron. Likewise, whatever unjust works you wrought are atoms of various impurities. The process of death is like a fire which burns away these impurities, leaving your spirit clean, but not yet whole. The more pure your spirit, the easier and less painful this process becomes. We all continue this cycle, hoping to live our life in such a way that will leave no impurities to be burnt away when we die. Having acheived thus, the pure spirit passes through the fires of death unscathed and there he remains, never to return to the mortal world.

So in short, yes; reincarnation does occur and is an inherent part of existence.


No idea if this is true... but it is one of the coolest things I've ever read. :thumbsup: