View Full Version : HISTORY OF 4:20!
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 05:58 PM
I have this weed book and it says;
4:20 came from California high schools students during the Greatful Dead scene. It grew in popularity there and then moved through out the US and then on to being a national weed thing!!
I quess the would be in like the early 60's
Has anyone else heard something different?
STDzRus
11-23-2005, 05:59 PM
That is the most literal thing I've heard all day.
Good post. I believe it.
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 06:01 PM
:D i know :D
lateralus
11-23-2005, 06:02 PM
I heard 4:20 originated in the early seventies at Dartmouth college, where kids would use "420" as a code name around their parents for smoking weed, and gather around 4:20 by a statue at their school.
3 Sheets To The Wind
11-23-2005, 06:05 PM
I heard 4:20 originated in the early seventies at Dartmouth college, where kids would use "420" as a code name around their parents for smoking weed, and gather around 4:20 by a statue at their school.
If i was getting the reason tortured out of me, i'd use what you said, as that's the best explanation i heard a while ago :D
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 06:06 PM
I heard 4:20 originated in the early seventies at Dartmouth college, where kids would use "420" as a code name around their parents for smoking weed, and gather around 4:20 by a statue at their school.
Fuck you, I'm right your wrong! :p
STDzRus
11-23-2005, 06:08 PM
Actually I think I'm right.
420 originated when 420 years ago 420 people were gathering to light up 420 joints at exactly the same time, in a 420 person circle at exactly 420. And they ate 420 bags of doritos.
lateralus
11-23-2005, 06:08 PM
Fuck youYou're not in my league. :p
jimbones
11-23-2005, 06:10 PM
ppllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezz Senate bill 420 was signed into law on 10/13/03 and went into effect on Jan.1st 2004 thats what 420 stands for omg there are so many sheeple
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 06:10 PM
I know I'm ABOVE your league
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 06:11 PM
jimbones, and what prey tell is senate bill 420??? umm????
STDzRus
11-23-2005, 06:13 PM
ppllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezz Senate bill 420 was signed into law on 10/13/03 and went into effect on Jan.1st 2004 thats what 420 stands for omg there are so many sheeple
Um..OOOOOOOKAY
I thought it was the 420th Amendment prophesized by CanMan (sounds lame but it works)
lateralus
11-23-2005, 06:14 PM
I know I'm ABOVE your leagueHaha, real cute, peewee. ;)
ppllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezz Senate bill 420 was signed into law on 10/13/03 and went into effect on Jan.1st 2004 thats what 420 stands for omg there are so many sheepleEr, I'd love to agree with ya, but 420 was around loooong before that date. :cool:
STDzRus
11-23-2005, 06:16 PM
Has anybody ever taken a second to just Google it?
The History of 420
Among stoner circles, there is nothing more known than the symbol of 420. It is confirmed by High Times mag that the term originated with the Waldos in San Rafael, who used it in high school as an extremely similar code. The term could mean anything that had to do with Cannabis.
Other myths about the term include the widely spread rumor that it represents the police code for smoking weed in any number of cities, that the Grateful Dead played everyday at 4:30 PM (meaning the crowd would meet up at 4:20 to "prepare"), and that a wide variety of great rock stars were born or died on the date (although it is the birthday of Luther Vandross).
This is not the only chapter in stoner culture when categrizing by topic. It is, however, the only true historical practice that s tied directly to the culture and promotes activity within the culture.
All the red-eyes know a thing or two about rolling, shotguns, resin scraping, dropping a piece, ritualistic eating, etc. None of that stuff is serious; there isn't a wide-spread ritualstic tie.
For some reason, the 420 slang made it big. A couple of dopey stoned kids making jokes saw one of the stupid things the say make it into the vocabulary of everyone like them. It could just have easily been you or me with a group of kids, burning spliffs and choing down twinkies. These kids just happened to come up with the right slogan, it happened to reach the right people, who were making the right flyer for the rigt band... and the Waldos escalated their term to minor greatness.
The schizophrenic nature of the creation of the term can only be described as "stoned". It doesn't make any sense that this one inside joke thrown around a high school ever became something special.
That being said, there isn't anything wrong with it. It might make more sense for the counter cultural group that celebrates 420 to have holidays based on actual events as well. Here are some suggestions:
1. Bicycle Day-April 19th
On this date in 1943, Albert Hoffman became the first person to test LSD purposely after he had, a few days earlier, felt strange effects from the chemical while working in his labs. Hoffman supposedly dropped 250 ug and took a pleasant bike ride.
Some people find this to be a myth because of the amount he ingested and the length of time that he tripped. Either way, the day before April 20th could forever be designated as a day to trip and take a relaxing bike ride. At midnight, bleary eyed buddies could sit next to one another and smoke the best pot they have come across. How's that for a 1-2?
2. Bob Marley's Birthday- February 6th
I suppose this is not celebrated by NO ONE, but February 6th is my birthday as well, and I think I would remember if I smelled ganja everywhere I walked on my birthday the last few years in college. Take a day off for Bob.
3. The West meets Psychedelic Mushrooms- June 29th
There had been a long dispute over the past few decades about whether or not psychedelic mushrooms existed. R Gordon Wasson was finally able to track some down and actually ingest them on this date in 1955. He and his wife are the first people to indulge in the sacred mushroom. The CIA eventually got on Wasson's ass because they believed that crazy stuff was being used and studied to create methods of mind control.
Yeah... whatever, Larouche...
4. England Relaxes the Law-October 23rd
Those Brits taught by example on this date in 2001, when the penalties for personal possesion decreased. The drug was reclassifed in order to move it to a category that treats the drug as one less serious than cocaine or heroin... go figure...
The man in charge of the move, David Blunkett, said that the lchange was not a sign of a move toward legalization. Regardless, you can celebrate as though it were one.
STDzRus
11-23-2005, 06:17 PM
FUCKING PWNED man I am on a role today! I'm on FIRE!
lateralus
11-23-2005, 06:18 PM
I've seen that too.
Btw, I take a second to google everything. I must visit google twenty times a day.
STDzRus
11-23-2005, 06:19 PM
I've seen that too.
Btw, I take a second to google everything. I must visit google twenty times a day.
That comment does not apply to all those mentioned in your sig.
lateralus
11-23-2005, 06:21 PM
Huh wha'?
STDzRus
11-23-2005, 06:24 PM
Kama Kama Kama Kama Chameleon!
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 06:36 PM
Google's my homepage. I cant live without google. It's like another addiction..........:eek:
3 Sheets To The Wind
11-23-2005, 06:39 PM
Kama Kama Kama Kama Chameleon!
Let me put things right.
Karma karma karma karma karma chameleon
lol...
lateralus
11-23-2005, 06:49 PM
Do you really want to huuuuuurt me?
Do you really want to make me cryyyyy?
Don't get too excited from my lyrics, 3 Sheets.
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 06:51 PM
Do you really want to huuuuuurt me?
Do you really want to make me cryyyyy?
Don't get too excited from my lyrics, 3 Sheets.
lol
STDzRus
11-23-2005, 06:54 PM
Average.
beachguy in thongs
11-23-2005, 09:30 PM
Kama Kama Kama Kama Chameleon!
You forgot another Kama again!
You have it all wrong. 4:20 isn't a time, it's a ratio. If you smoke four times in a day, your day will be twenty times better.
Actually, 5 times better. But, then it adds up to 20 hours of appreciating Life.
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 09:34 PM
You forgot another Kama again!
You have it all wrong. 4:20 isn't a time, it's a ratio. If you smoke four times in a day, your day will be twenty times better.
Actually, 5 times better. But, then it adds up to 20 hours of appreciating Life.
dude, ...........your crazy man!!! :smokin:
beachguy in thongs
11-23-2005, 10:42 PM
dude, ...........your crazy man!!! :smokin:
Another compliment to file away in this little filing cabinet down the hall in my brain. Thank you. :stoned:
heavymetal101
11-23-2005, 10:54 PM
your welcome ;)
ADaisyChain
11-24-2005, 12:03 AM
arg, beachguy beat me to lying making my lie seem less cool. how lame.
heavymetal101
11-24-2005, 12:07 AM
arg, beachguy beat me to lying making my lie seem less cool. how lame.
what the hell are you takin??? LOL i didnt understand one thing you just wrote.
thebeancounter
11-24-2005, 12:25 AM
ppllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezz Senate bill 420 was signed into law on 10/13/03 and went into effect on Jan.1st 2004 thats what 420 stands for omg there are so many sheeple
You're WAY off there.The term has been around since the 80's.What I heard was that is when you're least likely to see a cop on the streets due to being either right before or right after shift change.And the heads adopted it as a slang term referring to getting toasted.
The inference was the best time to blaze was when the cops were all at the station.
overdrive
11-24-2005, 12:38 AM
You have it all wrong. 4:20 isn't a time, it's a ratio. If you smoke four times in a day, your day will be twenty times better.
Actually, 5 times better. But, then it adds up to 20 hours of appreciating Life.
So if you smoke only one time a day your day will only be 5 times better than if you smoked none at all? And so on and so forth? What if you smoke at night? Will your night be better? Is 4:20 the limit to how good a day can be? Then we could have 5:25 !
LOL fun stories!
heavymetal101
11-24-2005, 12:41 AM
hello, overdrive and the beancounter. It's nice to see even more newbies!!
beachguy in thongs
11-24-2005, 01:59 AM
So if you smoke only one time a day your day will only be 5 times better than if you smoked none at all? And so on and so forth? What if you smoke at night? Will your night be better? Is 4:20 the limit to how good a day can be? Then we could have 5:25 !
LOL fun stories!
I think there's a limit. When it gets to, about, 64:320 it starts leveling off because then you're not doing anything else but puffin' Weed.
LOL- I smoke about 64 times a day.
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