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Starchild
11-20-2005, 10:59 PM
Is it okay to say grow two types of seeds next to one another?Like mango and maple leaf?What should I look for in doing this?
Blessings...
Sorry I put this in the wrong section...
turtle420
11-21-2005, 12:23 AM
Hey Star...
Yeah, you can grow two strains....
But I'll give you my take on it...
I started my grow, and had various strains to pick from... but, I choose only one.
Why?
Well, you can grow them... but it's going to be a pain in the ass when the different strains grow at different rates... when they react differently to the nutrients... when one is taller than the other (what to do with the light!)... or when one is ready to cut down but the other one isn't yet.
You can do it... I don't see why not. But it'll require just a little bit of extra effort. But hey! Go for it!
;),
-turtle420 :cool:
Starchild
11-21-2005, 01:01 AM
Thanks alot turtle..BTW,I have a turtle...
turtle420
11-21-2005, 01:42 AM
Thanks alot turtle..BTW,I have a turtle...
Cool!
So, maybe you have more experience than me with turtles...
I've got a question: I've got a red-ear slider (correct name?)
She hasn't been eating lately... I have a 40W incendescent bulb for reptiles... I don't think that the bulb provides enough UV, so for that reason, I've been placing her like for 1 hour ever day under the sun in a small Ziplock container... I place a CD case over the container so she can have a shadow if she wants...
Today, although lethargic, she did move quite a bit. After that, I placed her back in her aquarium... and, for some unexplained reason, I think she's dead.
Her head is stuck out, and she doesn't move/respond. She's small, like 2 inches at most. I don't think she's hibernating (now that we're in winter) because where I live, the lowest that temps go is about 70F... maybe 60 F later in December.
My question is: How do you feed yours? Do you place the food on the same aquarium?
I've been trying to 'train' her to eat... every day, @ that same hour, I put her in the Ziplock container, a little bit of water, and place food in there... but I don't see her eating. Will she learn that when I do that it's 'eating time'?
How do you feed her?
Thanks Star... I'm trully sorry to think this, but I think that she's going to bite the dust. :( :( :(
Trichome Creator
11-21-2005, 02:34 AM
When you are growing two strains in the same grow space it is advised to put the shorter ones under the light with the taller ones near the edges so the smaller strain does not have to compete with the taller strain for your precious light and also mke sure you label your strains or you may forget which strain is which. Hope I helped you out somewhat. Good luck to you and overgrow the goverment!!!
Starchild
11-21-2005, 03:59 AM
Turtle facts 101.Turtles are required to be 4 inches by law in order to survive.Before President Cartar passed a law,many red eared sliders dies from being sent from other countries before they could survive~I have a 15 year old red eared slider~Make certain that her tank is clean and the correct temperature~27 - 30 degrees centigrade~.Most turtles get sick when their diet is not correct.
Here is a list of common systoms
Swollen or puffy eyes, usually closed. Possible white discharge. Skin may appear red and raw. There may be edema.
Probable cause:
Bacterial infection of eyes often consequent upon inadequate filtration of water. Investigate environment. Incorrect temperatures can also be responsible for this sort of symptom.
Treatment:
Topical antibiotics for eyes (non-soluble ointment base) if bacterial infection present. Adjust hygiene and environment if incorrect.
Symptoms:
Lesions or plaque-like furry build-up of necrotic matter in the mouth. Possible refusal to feed, and eyes may also be swollen.
Probable cause:
Bacterial infection of the mouth usually implicating Gram-negative organisms. Contagious to other specimens.
Treatment:
A serious condition requiring prompt treatment. The mouth should be cleaned using povidone-iodine solution several times per day with physical removal of necrotic tissue. Topical antibiotics of known efficacy against Gram-negative organisms may also be advised. Handle affected animals with care and isolate immediately. This condition usually responds well if recognized in good time.
Symptoms:
Animal lethargic, may hold head high or in an unusual position. There may be weakness in the front or back legs, and there may be a discharge from nose or mouth often accompanied by wheezing.
Probable cause:
Serious bacterial infection of the respiratory tract, possibly pneumonia.
Treatment:
Veterinary attention urgently required. Antibiotic injections are the usual course of action (antibiotics are not normally given orally to tortoises or terrapins due to the prolonged and unpredictable rate of absorption via the gut and unpredictability of resultant blood serum level).
Symptoms:
Carapace or plastron reveals soft area with possible hemorrhage. There may or may not be an unpleasant smell from the locality. The affected area may spread rapidly.
Probable cause:
Bacterial infection of the tissues which may have its origins in trauma or as a specific disease. Gram-negative bacterial organisms are usually implicated.
Treatment:
The affected area should be cleaned regularly with povidone iodine solution, necrotic tissue gently removed, and the terrapin isolated immediately. A topical antibiotic should be applied (laboratory sensitivity cultures may be advisable). Most cases result from localized traumatic injury, e.g., burns from heaters or abrasions from sharp rocks in the tank etc.
Symptoms:
Lethargy, weakness, possible red flush to limbs or plastron.
Probable cause:
Generalized septicemia (blood poisoning).
Treatment:
Many cases result from traumatic injury, especially if incurred in contaminated water. There may be hepatosis as the liver can rapidly become implicated. Urgent parenteral antibiotic treatment is required together with careful and intensive supportive therapy. Blood tests can be useful in establishing the progress of treatment.
Symptoms:
The carapace (shell) is soft and may be distorted. The legs may be weak and the terrapin may have trouble feeding.
Probable cause:
Dietary calcium deficiency, either relative or absolute.
Treatment:
Very severe cases are unlikely to survive. Treatment consists of calcium injections plus revised diet and maintenance under a UV-B emitting light. N.B: Comments on soft-shell symptoms do not apply to Soft-shell Turtles, e.g Tryonix/Apalone species!
Symptoms:
Fresh wound.
Probable cause:
Fighting, abrasion on rocks or other objects.
Treatment:
Remove causal factor from environment. Clean gently using povidone-iodine solution and keep particularly clean until fully healed. Observe carefully for symptoms of secondary infections e.g, septicemia, necrotic dermatitis.
Symptoms:
Swelling or local inflammation on side of head.
Probable cause:
Ear abscess. In turtles, often due to inadequate water hygiene.
Treatment:
Surgical excision by veterinary surgeon under general anaesthetic.
I will hold a good thought for you and your turtle..
johnny cottonmouth
11-21-2005, 04:15 AM
she said that the turtle is dead. did you put the lid on the ziplock container cus if ya did ya nuked the little bugger. the plastic has toxic chems that release when heated and it magnafies the light making inside the container a lot hotter.
Harvesthetic
11-21-2005, 04:20 AM
Thx trichome creator! Had this issue too. Now growing Easy Bud, Early Special Ã*nd a couple of imported seeds from Tibet.
turtle420
11-21-2005, 11:57 AM
she said that the turtle is dead. did you put the lid on the ziplock container cus if ya did ya nuked the little bugger. the plastic has toxic chems that release when heated and it magnafies the light making inside the container a lot hotter.
I said that maybe she's dead.
But, this morning, she's in the same position I left her. I fear the worst.
My temperatures are Ok... I trully think that my problem us the lack of UV-B rays... I'm going to do an eBay search to see if I can find a light or something.
BTW: Do you use a 'heat rock'? Or a 'warm rock' of those?
Thanks for the cool info... I copy/pasted into my turtle notebook. :)
Starchild
11-21-2005, 01:52 PM
I use a rock that I cleaned and retrieved from the river.If the temperature is correct the rock should be fine.I think I would try to force fed her some fresh worm,papaya,a small fish,or something she enjoys.You could also place her near a heater in your home to get some warmth going.
I am hoping she picks up...
johnny cottonmouth
11-22-2005, 03:28 AM
if you do grab a rock from a local river make sure you clean it then boil it to remove any possible lingering unwanted germs. just to be safe you dont have to but with it being that small i wouldnt take the chance. just some of my knowledge.
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