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Ze w33d Farm3r
11-13-2005, 02:06 AM
I had a chong the other day and pondered to myself...Is it possible to grow cannabis sufficiently enough in zero G and how would it react and behave it that sort of environment. If done right i think u can have a vast quantity of cannabis gorwing in a small like greenhouse but i also thought would just having like a metal halide over the plant the just grow very tall and spindly or what. Or would just norm rules on earth just apply to zero G? anybody else care to shed an idea or two on this?

TTBoi
11-13-2005, 02:12 AM
that would be super sick. weed in space!!!!!! hahahaha, you must be pretty high on MJ. i don't think pot is illegal in space. yeah, im going to space! thats what im going to do tomorrow. im going to build a space ship and grow bud in space. ill also go to the moon and grow some good bud there too. yeah, right on!

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 02:12 AM
Wouldnt work, the geotropism that tells the root to dig 'down' and the stem to shoot 'up' rely on gravity and without gravity the plant would refuse to grow.

Ze w33d Farm3r
11-13-2005, 02:18 AM
well good point but i do remember bout nasa do an experiment on growing plants work alright with few mishaps here or there so there is a possibility...unless however you germinate the seeds in a centrifugal chamber inducing a artificial gravity to get everything sorted out then migrate them to zero G.

IntrepidS
11-13-2005, 02:20 AM
What happens to weed once it has adapted to and is grown at very very high altitudes?

Ze w33d Farm3r
11-13-2005, 02:21 AM
Ah TTBoi now growing bud on the moon may have som major advantages with less gravity. Posiblity of producing much bigger buds with less chance of the plant itself collapsing. only drawback is the water and nutrients it will need in order to survive as well.

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 02:22 AM
well good point but i do remember bout nasa do an experiment on growing plants work alright with few mishaps here or there so there is a possibility...unless however you germinate the seeds in a centrifugal chamber inducing a artificial gravity to get everything sorted out then migrate them to zero G.
You know centrifugal chamber and artificial gravity are only in movies :D , although the concept of them works in theory.
And yes once the seed had germinated you could grow them in zero gravity but they wouldnt produce as much resin i wouldnt think as resin production is a result of stress on a plant (well partly due to it) ans in zero gravity there wouldnt be much stress on it. But it could work... someone should try it :D.

Ze w33d Farm3r
11-13-2005, 02:28 AM
lol okay maniac you got me there! :o well someone should try it and although a centrifulgal chamber/artificial gravity in theory should work but the cost of buld such a contraption would be...well too much! but again it would be nice if some uber rich person just decides:

"Hey i know, lets go into space and grow weed. Should be fun!"

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 02:37 AM
What happens to weed once it has adapted to and is grown at very very high altitudes?
You move it to very low altitudes and it will addapt to them :p, at very high altitudes there is less CO2 and less O2 and generaly the temp is lower so there would be less resperation and less photosynthisis and less THC production.

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 02:38 AM
hahaha
"what you gonna do today bob?"
"well i was thinking about inventing artifitial gravity so i could grow weed in outer space"
:p

Ze w33d Farm3r
11-13-2005, 02:43 AM
"So,bob when and how are you guna do this"

"Well I got a hoover in my shed...and a bit of gaffa tape and a hamster ball"

"Why did you say that?"

*Tokes*"I'm not entirely sure."

Euphoric
11-13-2005, 04:26 AM
wow what an awesome idea

yes, NASA and Russia has gotten lots of different types of plants to grow in space. There's no reason why cannabis wouldn't grow. It'd probably grow much better...the weight of the buds would be no problem. This could lead to some plants producing unholy amounts of bud. Pests and mold wouldn't be much of an issue, either. :thumbsup:



http://www.cvgs.k12.va.us/curric/Biology/NASA/

Stoner Shadow Wolf
11-13-2005, 06:47 AM
a little off topic, but i have always wondered if there is any sea weed? :D

i mean... look at how it grows almost everywhere on earth... why not the bottom of the ocean???

Monkey4Sale
11-13-2005, 06:51 AM
a little off topic, but i have always wondered if there is any sea weed? :D

i mean... look at how it grows almost everywhere on earth... why not the bottom of the ocean???

Not many land plants survive underwater.

Euphoric
11-13-2005, 07:01 AM
a little off topic, but i have always wondered if there is any sea weed? :D

i mean... look at how it grows almost everywhere on earth... why not the bottom of the ocean???

This is why I want my own gene splicing kit.

Sensi Super Skunk
11-13-2005, 07:03 AM
What happens to weed once it has adapted to and is grown at very very high altitudes?
Well, cannabis grown at high altitudes produce better quality resin (THC) in order to protect it's self from the dangerous UV levels that increases with altitude.

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 07:29 AM
Well, cannabis grown at high altitudes produce better quality resin (THC) in order to protect it's self from the dangerous UV levels that increases with altitude.
Wrong, UV levels are pretty much the same no matter what your altitude is, they dont release energy untill they hit something, so why would they get weaker the further they travel.
As i pointed out about they would grow worse due to the lack of CO2.

As for the underwater plants, in a marine enviorment all the water would be sucked out of them via osmosis and in a freash water enviroment they wouldnt be able to get enough CO2 to surport life :p, in case you realy wanted to know,

Euphoric
11-13-2005, 07:59 AM
As for the underwater plants, in a marine enviorment all the water would be sucked out of them via osmosis and in a freash water enviroment they wouldnt be able to get enough CO2 to surport life :p, in case you realy wanted to know,

:error:O yea well explain this! (see pwnage pic)

unless you meant cannabis plants specificlly, in which case..uh...*hides*

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 08:18 AM
:error:O yea well explain this! (see pwnage pic)

unless you meant cannabis plants specificlly, in which case..uh...*hides*
first i did mean a cannabis plant, and second thats not even a plant! :p, that an algae (a brown kelp algae), an entirly different kingdom of organisms!

Euphoric
11-13-2005, 08:27 AM
first i did mean a cannabis plant, and second thats not even a plant! :p, that an algae (a brown kelp algae), an entirly different kingdom of organisms!


...O yea. :o

Sensi Super Skunk
11-13-2005, 09:18 AM
Wrong, UV levels are pretty much the same no matter what your altitude is, they dont release energy untill they hit something, so why would they get weaker the further they travel.
As i pointed out about they would grow worse due to the lack of CO2.

Bro, science and problem solving are my specialty. I can back up what I say with various links and quotes so watch it. Booyah. :dance: :thumbsup: :)
http://www.np.edu.sg/~dept-bio/rdna/geng/albinismfacts.htm
http://zebu.uoregon.edu/text/UV
And a little quote from my man Ed Rosenthal:

UV-B light changes the quality of the bud. Andecdotally, buds grown at high altitude are considered to be better quality that lowland products. The difference in conditions between these locations is the amount of UV-B light they recieve. It is filtered out by the atmosphere so it is more intense at higher altitudes than at lower.
The quality of UV-B will greatly out way the lack of CO2.
As Brian off of Family Guy would say:
Brian: I don't want to say "I told you so", but... YEEEAAAAAAAAAAAHHH! IN YOUR ****ING FACE! IN YOUR ****ING FACE!!! ... I am so sorry...

I think that you confused UV-B (which determines the quality of THC) with UV-A (which doesn't). But you were right about UV-A levels staying pretty much the same no matter of what altitude: http://www.meritcare.com/hwdb/showtopic.asp?module_abbrev=HWKB3&pd_hwid=tw9211-sec&topic_name=Ultraviolet%20light%20rays%20%28UVA%20a nd%20UVB%29&sequence=1

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 09:42 AM
Those first two links were useless! what has albenoism got to do with anything :S.

And i would say that quote's wrong too! UV (a and b) start from the sun by the time they get to the earth there still as strong as when they left the sun (well a little less due to reflection and heat loss to objects in it's path. so from the time it takes going even up to 7km, how much energy could it possibly lose! think about it! So maybe due to the light hitting particles of air it would lose a bit of energy but it is so minimal.
You shine even a weak UV light in pitch black and you can still see it up to 7 km aways!
Not everything you read on the internet is true, just use your common sence (and a little bio, chem and physics and uni level).

Sensi Super Skunk
11-13-2005, 10:20 AM
Those first two links were useless! what has albenoism got to do with anything :S.
You must read them carefully because both support and contain info on what I am saying.


And i would say that quote's wrong too! UV (a and b) start from the sun by the time they get to the earth there still as strong as when they left the sun (well a little less due to reflection and heat loss to objects in it's path .
Dude, if they were just as strong...life on Earth would not be possible.

so from the time it takes going even up to 7km, how much energy could it possibly lose! think about it! So maybe due to the light hitting particles of air it would lose a bit of energy but it is so minimal.
Please rephrase. :confused: Up to 7km/what?

You shine even a weak UV light in pitch black and you can still see it up to 7 km aways!
UV is found in the bans between 300 and 400 nanometers. SO it's invisible to the human eye.

Not everything you read on the internet is true, just use your common sence (and a little bio, chem and physics and uni level).
The quote from my previous post of Ed Rosenthal was taken from my book The Best of Ask Ed: Your Marijuana Questions Answered. My Biology/Chemistry book even backs what I say. And what I posted is common sense. Metaphorically what we are both debating about can be compared to ummmm...what's an example...Ok, which planet gets the most sunlight: Earth or Pluto? See?

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 10:50 AM
Still there after 7km. And the highest mountains on earth are 7 km high so you couldnt physicly grow them any higher.

Something else i should point out, you are only taking in one factor, that is very variable! differant places on earth at different times have different UV levels! one thing consistant with altitude is CO2 and O2 levels, which would have a great affect on the plant, also the temp would play a hugh roll not to mentions the high winds. Come to think of it you couldnt grow plants at high alltitudeds at all without the help of man made devices.
And do you have any statistics that show the UVb light decreases dramaticly enough over 7km?

Sensi Super Skunk
11-13-2005, 11:29 AM
Still there after 7km. And the highest mountains on earth are 7 km high so you couldnt physicly grow them any higher. Wait, you are overexagerating what I'm trying to prove. I'm not saying one should grow there plant at such an altitude. I am only saying that one could yield a better quality resin (THC) at an higher altitude because this would expose cannabis to more UV-B. It wouldn't be very wise to take your plant soooooo high of an altitude (7km!? Not that high, bro!) because of lack of carbon dioxide (CO2)


Something else i should point out, you are only taking in one factor, that is very variable! differant places on earth at different times have different UV levels! one thing consistant with altitude is CO2 and O2 levels, which would have a great affect on the plant, also the temp would play a hugh roll not to mentions the high winds.
Dude, I stated that in the second link, two posts ago. You must have didn't read it: http://zebu.uoregon.edu/text/UV

Come to think of it you couldnt grow plants at high alltitudeds at all without the help of man made devices.
Again, the plants should not be grown at an altitude of 7km, it is too high of an altitude. I'm saying that an higher altitude plant grown (but not too high as to not provide that plant carbon dioxide, 7km c'mon) would yield better quality resin (THC) than a low landed plant, because the plant grown at an higher altitude would be exposed to more UV-B.

And do you have any statistics that show the UVb light decreases dramaticly enough over 7km?
Yeah, read some of the links carefully that I previously posted (you will find the info in there somewhere, I don't feel like quoting it) and ask any grower with experience and reliable knowledge whether cannabis grown at an higher altitude compared to a low altitude plant produced better quality resin (THC) or vice-versa.

MullManiac
11-13-2005, 12:30 PM
None of the links i read showed this, they just stated what you have already told us.
Check out how tall mt everist is (not sure of the spelling)

What your realy saying is that the plants will grow more TCH on them with the more UVb they come into contact with. because no matter how much UVb light there with with the higher u go in altitud, the less healther the plants will be (within reason) and so the less THC they will produce. Other factors come into play with increased alltitude you know ;).

ps. Hey jude is sooo much more trippyer then i thought it was :D :rasta:

TokeAlloT
11-13-2005, 04:14 PM
wow, gotta smoke after reading all that shit

Goodman3eb
11-13-2005, 04:14 PM
In the words of a good friend of mine:

"Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience."