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eg420ne
11-09-2005, 07:16 PM
Lord Bush and the current administration have borrowed more money from foreign government and banks than the previous 42 presidents combined, a group of conservative to moderate democrats said friday.

According to the Treasury department, from 1776-2000 the first 224 yrs of U.S. history 42 U.S. president borrowed a combined $1.01 trillion from foreign governments and financial institutions, But in the past four yrs alone, the bush administration borrowed $1.05 trillion
www.cnsnews.com/viewnation.asp?page=/nation/archive/200511/nat20051104b.html
I watched cspan the other day and heard them talking about this...lol I know, its all clintons penis fault

bhallg2k
11-09-2005, 08:18 PM
Hey, man. What are you doing with those important facts that people really ought to know? Don't you know this country is all about missing teenagers and gay marriage bans?

Such a silly, informed citizen.

Jesus, how can any conservative support someone - and they all seem to fiercely support this fool - anyone who borrows just under $72,000,000 a day?

What the fuck kind of conservatism is that?

Worst. President. Ever.

eg420ne
11-09-2005, 08:31 PM
ya foxnews & msnbc are still having a hard-on for that missing blonde hair aruba girl & we cant let dem gays run around with our freedoms can we... nothing to see here move-along stay tune 2 foxnews for your daily dose of propaganda.

Decent
11-13-2005, 06:59 AM
Hey, man. What are you doing with those important facts that people really ought to know? Don't you know this country is all about missing teenagers and gay marriage bans?

Such a silly, informed citizen.

Jesus, how can any conservative support someone - and they all seem to fiercely support this fool - anyone who borrows just under $72,000,000 a day?

What the fuck kind of conservatism is that?

Worst. President. Ever.
Hey you stupid liberal. This is clearly another ploy from the liberal media to make the Second Coming's administration look bad. If you adjust for inflation, W only borrowed three quarters of the Presidents combined! Not "all" of them! Liberals always distort the facts!

I dunno, I'm trying to play devil's advocate, but I seriously don't understand why people support this guy. I also can't imagine a Democrat borrowing and spending this much money and being supported by "conservatives." Go figure.

Stedric
11-13-2005, 07:10 AM
Hey you stupid liberal. This is clearly another ploy from the liberal media to make the Second Coming's administration look bad. If you adjust for inflation, W only borrowed three quarters of the Presidents combined! Not "all" of them! Liberals always distort the facts!

I dunno, I'm trying to play devil's advocate, but I seriously don't understand why people support this guy. I also can't imagine a Democrat borrowing and spending this much money and being supported by "conservatives." Go figure.
Liberal media?!You're kidding me, right? You actually think the American Mass Media is Liberal?! Dear Lord, where have you BEEN for the last 50 years?

American media is largely filtered and distorted, and fits Chomsky's propoganda model every time. Do some research before you made a stupid statement like "liberal media".

Euphoric
11-13-2005, 07:20 AM
Liberal media?!You're kidding me, right? You actually think the American Mass Media is Liberal?! Dear Lord, where have you BEEN for the last 50 years?

American media is largely filtered and distorted, and fits Chomsky's propoganda model every time. Do some research before you made a stupid statement like "liberal media".

Chomsky's propoganda model? You're right!

Their theory is that, contrary to Bolshevik-style political commissars, "free" societies like the bourgeois democracies rely on less overt and obvious (but even more insidious) forms of censure to keep unwanted ideas out of the popular consciousness. The end result of this filtering process is to reduce popular dialogue to a wafer-thin "consensus," representing the attitudes of the power elite who run our society. Everything else is considered "beyond the pale" or simply never discussed at all. This method has been in practice for many decades.


SIZE, OWNERSHIP, AND PROFIT ORIENTATION OF THE MASS MEDIA: THE FIRST FILTER
THE ADVERTISING LICENSE TO DO BUSINESS: THE SECOND FILTER
SOURCING MASS MEDIA NEWS: THE THIRD FILTER
FLAK AND THE ENFORCERS: THE FOURTH FILTER
ANTICOMMUNISM AS A CONTROL MECHANISM: THE FIFTH FILTER

more detailed descriptions of these filters (http://www.chomsky.info/onchomsky/2002----.htm)

Stedric
11-13-2005, 07:34 AM
I'm reading "Manufacturing Consent" right now, its fascinating stuff. The Case Studies especially.

Euphoric
11-13-2005, 07:45 AM
I found a very interesting site about how these propaganda models can/can't apply to the internet.

http://byronik.com/diss15.html

(click "NEXT" after u read that page to go on to the first filter)