Texas Voters Approve Ban on Gay Marriage

[Torog]

Texas Voters Approve Ban on Gay Marriage

Nov 08 9:02 PM US/Eastern
By DAVID CRARY


Texas voters Tuesday overwhelming approved a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, making their state the 19th to take that step. In Maine, however, a proposal to repeal a new gay-rights law was trailing in early returns.

The contest in Texas was decided quickly,the ban was receiving more than 74 percent of the votes in early returns. Like every other state except Massachusetts, Texas didn't permit same-sex marriages previously, but the constitutional amendment was touted as an extra guard against future court rulings.

The campaign had been enlivened over the past week because of a controversial tactic by the amendment's opponents, who argued in recorded phone calls to voters that the measure is so poorly worded that it could jeopardize traditional man-woman marriages. Amendment supporters denounced the effort as misleading.

[lemonboy]

Actually the amendment is very poorly worded. It basically says the state can enact no legal situation that bares any resemblance to marriage. Sounds great doesn't it? Sure! Until you start looking into things like power of attorney, child custody, etc... I don't see sweeping repercussions as a result of the careless wording but I absolutely see it being called into play in different-sex situations. Lawyers love wiggle room.

The loose wording is yet another attempt to further the Republican agenda at any cost and, as history dictates, will eventually come crashing down when the time is right. Gays are already married and continue marrying every single day. Let it go.

[Tholiak]

Republican agenda? The People of Texas Voted, and they have spoken. No Gays Shall Marry in the Great State of Texas, afterall, Texans dont wana fork over the huge medical bill that is gona come with the rise of HiV that follows homosexuals

[Oneironaut]

Oh yay, the bigotry of Christianity is being further forced on all of society by means of the state. What could be better? :rolleyes:

Please, stay the fuck out of other people's lives if they're not harming anybody. What kind of hatred drives people to outlaw a form of love anyways? We need all the love we can get.

[pisshead]

the government has no business legislating on this anyway...and that includes any marriage...it's not their job...you shouldn't need a license to begin with...

[Fengzi]

Republican agenda? The People of Texas Voted, and they have spoken. No Gays Shall Marry in the Great State of Texas, afterall, Texans dont wana fork over the huge medical bill that is gona come with the rise of HiV that follows homosexuals
What's Tholiak worried about? His head is so far up his ass there's no room for someone else's dick.

[zooted999]

Let's just call them Butt Buddies. :D

[zooted999]

To be honest, when talking about gay marriage, I can never argue for it or against it because I'm not 100% about it.

What I mean is, if two people want to get married-- let them. Gay, straight, doesn't matter to me, but apparently it's more complicated than that. My question is what rights do homosexuals get when they get married that they shouldn't be getting?

(Please don't be biased. I'm not an extremist or even a Christian. I'd actually like to get under this particular issue because it's brought up all the time.)

[Psycho4Bud]

To be honest, when talking about gay marriage, I can never argue for it or against it because I'm not 100% about it.

What I mean is, if two people want to get married-- let them. Gay, straight, doesn't matter to me, but apparently it's more complicated than that. My question is what rights do homosexuals get when they get married that they shouldn't be getting?

(Please don't be biased. I'm not an extremist or even a Christian. I'd actually like to get under this particular issue because it's brought up all the time.)

Health care, retirement benifits, social security benifits, etc....

Who gives a rats ass if they want to get married but if the people of the state don't want their tax dollars supporting the effort....well, Texas voted.

[syrrus]

Im from texas, so I think im obligated to make a defense of fellow texans. Yes, our oh so favorite president hails from this land (sarcasm), and we're full of bigots, raceists, baptists and all the other lower points of humanity. Yet, not all of us are bad, the city I live in drinks more beer than any other city in Texas (ive heard the whole country but im not sure), we're full of some of the worst racists and bigots around. However I know of over a hundred intellegent (straight and gay), athiest/agnostic/buddhist/etc..., and non-racist people personally. There are good people everywhere, texas isn't all that bad....bud's cheap as fuck. Yes this is a step backwards and shows us all that there is no land of tolerence or equality only hushed hatred and gradual acceptance. The former generations have had their time to reign and corrupt and depress societal growth, but with the coming generations homosexuals will find a world that we create to be more open and free, (at least thats what I hope). Texas will definately be the last of the states to accept homosexuality, and it's a sad thing.

BTW. This law violates the 7th amendment that forces other states to recognize the laws of other states. (At least to my understanding of the amendment)

[onwardthroughthefog]

Who really benefits from this?

Huge insurance companies sure do. Now a gay couple cannot claim their partner as their "spouse", thus making them inelligible for family health insurance.

Do we straight people think we have this marriage thing all figured out? Does that explain the more than 50% divorce rate in America by straight people? I have to admit that I fell into that category myself. So did more than half the married people in America over the past 25 years. So we think WE know what's best in marriage?

Didn't you guys know that same-sex marriage was ALREADY illegal in Texas and that same-sex marriages were NOT given any legal status, even for people who move to Texas from other states where it is legal? Nothing changed at all, other than a grandstand play to appease the far right.

Onward!

[syrrus]

nah man what this amendment did was define marriage between a man and a woman only. It further said that marriages in other states that were same sex were completely illegitimate, null and void. This law doesn't change anything, but it instead defines.

[pisshead]

nah man what this amendment did was define marriage between a man and a woman only. It further said that marriages in other states that were same sex were completely illegitimate, null and void. This law doesn't change anything, but it instead defines.
that violates the full faith and credit clause of the united states constitution...

[Psycho4Bud]

that violates the full faith and credit clause of the united states constitution...

Sorry, guess you and Hempity will just have to live together! At least in Texas!!:thumbsup:

[hempity]

Sorry, guess you and Hempity will just have to live together! At least in Texas!!:thumbsup:

methinks you protest too much.
to judge others by your own latent tendencies will confuse you even more officer.
just because you have butt buddies on the force, does not mean that everyone does.
to me it is sad that you base your life on your sexual practices alone, there must be more to you somewhere. i have seen you biker homosexuals before, and to me are even sadder than the christian bikers.
i lived in kileen a dry town, and a collection of inbred frightened folk i never did see before in my life.

[Psycho4Bud]

methinks you protest too much.
to judge others by your own latent tendencies will confuse you even more officer.
just because you have butt buddies on the force, does not mean that everyone does.
to me it is sad that you base your life on your sexual practices alone, there must be more to you somewhere. i have seen you biker homosexuals before, and to me are even sadder than the christian bikers.
i lived in kileen a dry town, and a collection of inbred frightened folk i never did see before in my life.

Well hi-ya, hi-ya squaw Running Chicken. Another line of original thought. Copy what others state cause God knows a dumb squaw can't think for herself! :thumbsup:

Have-um nice day! :thumbsup:

Maybe you and Pissy can find a more "tolorant" state!
BWWWWAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[Psycho4Bud]

I would like to dedicate this song to the forums new love birds. :thumbsup:

Sometimes its hard to be a Squaw
Giving all your love to just one man
You'll have bad times
And he'll have good times
Doing things that you don't understand
But if you love him you'll forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him
Oh be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just a man
Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely
Stand by your man
And tell the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man :thumbsup:

[hempity]

I would like to dedicate this song to the forums new love birds. :thumbsup:

Sometimes its hard to be a Squaw
Giving all your love to just one man
You'll have bad times
And he'll have good times
Doing things that you don't understand
But if you love him you'll forgive him
Even though he's hard to understand
And if you love him
Oh be proud of him
'Cause after all he's just a man
Stand by your man
Give him two arms to cling to
And something warm to come to
When nights are cold and lonely
Stand by your man
And tell the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man
Stand by your man
And show the world you love him
Keep giving all the love you can
Stand by your man :thumbsup:



i understand how never having had a friend how you can get so confused.
keep trying, someone will come around, or slap you for being so stupid, either way you will get the attention you crave.

[Psycho4Bud]

i understand how never having had a friend how you can get so confused.
keep trying, someone will come around, or slap you for being so stupid, either way you will get the attention you crave.

Oh lil' Squaw Running Chicken, I've got plenty of friends...probably none with the "Passionate fingers" as you described with Pissy. :dance:

Have-um nice day! :thumbsup:

[hempity]

Oh lil' Squaw Running Chicken, I've got plenty of friends...probably none with the "Passionate fingers" as you described with Pissy. :dance:

Have-um nice day! :thumbsup:


heh heh, i can see it now, a gaggle of lames acting tough, taking all the handicapped spaces as you slither around the mall being all macho.

[parrotman]

I live in Houston and I have to say that the idea of a constitutional ban on same-sex marriage is pretty stupid. I voted against the proposition. I'm not at all Homosexual and I'm not for out right marriage. But I do belive that gay couples should be given the legal benifits that come from marriage. Like insurance coverage and the right to collect social security benfits from the partner. I think that there are alot more important issues to vote on than a ban on gay marriage.

[Psycho4Bud]

heh heh, i can see it now, a gaggle of lames acting tough, taking all the handicapped spaces as you slither around the mall being all macho.

No, you got us all wrong oh Squaw Running Chicken. We usually go out ridin', stop off to a little dive bar downtown, and get a blowjob from some fat squaw for a 50 cent tapper. :thumbsup:

Have-um nice day!! :thumbsup:

[andruejaysin]

The simple answer would be to ban all marriage. Since christians (and muslims, for that matter) are not allowed to live in sin they would eventually become extinct, leaving the world safe for rational people.