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Tholiak
11-09-2005, 05:06 AM
The people of Texas have spoken..and they have declared that Same sex marriage shall not happen in the great state of texas! Score a victory for morality! 75%, wonder if a liberal judge has the balls to say its unconstitutional?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174993,00.html

bhallg2k
11-09-2005, 05:24 AM
I swear to God, Mexico can have Texas back.

phareye
11-09-2005, 12:39 PM
let's cut Alaska in half and make texass the THIRD largest state.
I'M SCARED OF HOMOS!!!!

Torog
11-09-2005, 01:21 PM
I swear to God, Mexico can have Texas back.
Howdy bhall,

How about the 18 other States that have voted against same-sex marriage ? Do ya want to hand them over to Mexico too ? I'm kinda embarrassed that it took us so long to git this ban passed,Texas should have been leading the charge..well..better late than never !

Yeeehhaaww ! ! ! Way to go --Texans !

Have a good one...

Sgt. Pepper
11-09-2005, 02:17 PM
It's funny to hear Tholiak talk about morality.

lemonboy
11-09-2005, 03:22 PM
This is one of those "victories" that makes Joe Six-pack feel good. See, he doesn't realize it was already illegal in Texas to begin with. He also doesn't realize that gays are already getting married and continue to every day. But, what does Joe know now?

Now Joe knows who to vote for in his next elections because they were the ones supporting his view in the Texas constitutional amendment vote that CHANGED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. So yeah. Way to go!

With 75% of Texans gladly bending over to take it up the ass for a bunch of politicians you'd think they'd be a little more tolerant.

Fengzi
11-09-2005, 04:17 PM
Is is any surprise that the people of this back ass, homophobic, racist state that produced the that moron in the white house would ban gay marraige. Next election they'll pass a law making it legal to tie gays to the back of a pick-up truck and drag them through town. Tholiak and Toreg will be fighting for who gets the right to drive. The ironic thing is that none of them would hesitate to blow George Bush if given the chance. Pathetic little cowboys.

Kudos to those few Texans who actually used their brain and voted against the ban. At least someone down there has some sense :thumbsup:

daves19
11-09-2005, 05:35 PM
i don't know man...if it's the great country of freedom, why can't you let 2 dick sucking head get together??? what is bad about that?? if it's because god said it, then you are not free from religion...everyone has their opinion like torog and tholiak but why is it call the great country of freedom if it's not??? marketing maybe???

Fengzi
11-09-2005, 06:00 PM
i don't know man...if it's the great country of freedom, why can't you let 2 dick sucking head get together??? what is bad about that?? if it's because god said it, then you are not free from religion...everyone has their opinion like torog and tholiak but why is it call the great country of freedom if it's not??? marketing maybe???

It's simple, it's all about being a good Chritian and protecting morality and family values. Much like the good Christians pictured below.

eg420ne
11-09-2005, 06:06 PM
It's simple, it's all about being a good Chritian and protecting morality and family values. Much like the good Christians pictured below.
lol soooo true. just like this good christian

Fengzi
11-09-2005, 06:16 PM
At Least Bush knows what's important to this country

eg420ne
11-09-2005, 06:29 PM
yup daddy bush knows best, dem evil muslims & gays hate us for our freedom: killem all

syrrus
11-10-2005, 01:43 AM
Progress is slow but don't abandon all hope. Once faith is punctured by intellegence equality and justice leaks out.

Straights have no more right to define marriage than gays do. In fact marriage is a concept, and concepts like everything else change person to person.

Fengzi
11-10-2005, 02:34 AM
Straights have no more right to define marriage than gays do. In fact marriage is a concept, and concepts like everything else change person to person.

Well said Syruss. Too bad the rest of your fellow Texans don't think the way you do.

syrrus
11-10-2005, 02:53 AM
It's only a matter of time....give them a couple dozen generations and intellegence might start to breed....you know mutation and aberation is the seed of evolution. :-)

zooted999
11-10-2005, 04:41 AM
.. .. but. ... fag drag?

onwardthroughthefog
11-10-2005, 04:46 AM
You guys really drank the Kool Aid on this one. Did you not know that it was ALREADY illegal for people of the same sex to marry in Texas? This was just a grandstand play to appease the far right who profess that their version of Christianity is the RIGHT one and anyone who disagrees is unholy and wrong.

This wasn't worth the paper it's written on. If something is already illegal, do you want to make it double top secret illegal now? A bit of overkill in my opinion.

Onward!

Psycho4Bud
11-10-2005, 04:48 AM
Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot! :rasta:

bhallg2k
11-10-2005, 04:59 AM
Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot! :rasta:

Ok, that's gay.

onwardthroughthefog
11-10-2005, 05:00 AM
Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot! :rasta:

Fantastic film!! One of the most creative yet disturbing films of the past few decades.

Onward!

eg420ne
11-10-2005, 05:16 AM
Are there any queers in the theater tonight?
Get them up against the wall!
There's one in the spotlight, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall!
That one looks Jewish!
And that one's a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint,
And another with spots!
If I had my way,
I'd have all of you shot! :rasta:
Who said that? I remember it from somewhere

onwardthroughthefog
11-10-2005, 05:19 AM
Who said that? I remember it from somewhere

Towards the end of Pink Floyd's "The Wall". Pink was doing his Hitler immitation. Remember?

Onward!

eg420ne
11-10-2005, 05:32 AM
ya now i do :thumbsup: im fixing to see if i have that cd thanks

Psycho4Bud
11-10-2005, 05:33 AM
The song is "In The Flesh"........fire up and enjoy!! :rasta:

eg420ne
11-10-2005, 05:37 AM
I have it YAY :rasta: lol

eg420ne
11-10-2005, 05:37 AM
i have it playing now not to loud kids sleeping

Psycho4Bud
11-10-2005, 05:39 AM
I have it YAY :rasta: lol

The joint or the song? LOL :thumbsup:

eg420ne
11-10-2005, 05:40 AM
lol both :D

Psycho4Bud
11-10-2005, 05:48 AM
i have it playing now not to loud kids sleeping

AAAhhhhhh, thats why ya had to go outside to fire up. Couldn't figure that one out the other day! :thumbsup:

eg420ne
11-10-2005, 05:54 AM
yup sometimes like right now i can :stoned: cause they sleeping

Torog
11-10-2005, 12:20 PM
You guys really drank the Kool Aid on this one. Did you not know that it was ALREADY illegal for people of the same sex to marry in Texas? This was just a grandstand play to appease the far right who profess that their version of Christianity is the RIGHT one and anyone who disagrees is unholy and wrong.

This wasn't worth the paper it's written on. If something is already illegal, do you want to make it double top secret illegal now? A bit of overkill in my opinion.

Onward!
Howdy onward,

We already knew that it was illegal,this was about putting this as an amendment to the Texas Constitution,so that liberal,God-less activist judges,can't overturn the law already in place,by a stroke of their pen,against the will of the People.

18 other States have voted against gay marriage,what do you have to say to them ?

Have a good one ...

Euphoric
11-10-2005, 12:31 PM
See that cannabis Torog?

Only liberal policies will get it legalized. You do like cannabis don't you??

Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, virtues and feelings that one does not truly possess. The word derives from the late Latin hypocrisis and Greek hupokrisis both meaning play-acting or pretence. The word is arguably derived from hypo- meaning small, + krinein meaning to decide/to dispute. A classic example of a hypocritical act is to denounce another for carrying out some action whilst carrying out the same action oneself.


It's not too late to save yourself from the monster you have become. Time is passing every day though..

Euphoric
11-10-2005, 12:44 PM
:):):)

Torog
11-10-2005, 01:25 PM
See that cannabis Torog?

Only liberal policies will get it legalized. You do like cannabis don't you??

Hypocrisy is the act of pretending to have beliefs, virtues and feelings that one does not truly possess. The word derives from the late Latin hypocrisis and Greek hupokrisis both meaning play-acting or pretence. The word is arguably derived from hypo- meaning small, + krinein meaning to decide/to dispute. A classic example of a hypocritical act is to denounce another for carrying out some action whilst carrying out the same action oneself.


It's not too late to save yourself from the monster you have become. Time is passing every day though..
Howdy Euphoric,

Actually,I don't like cannabis--I love it ! I've been in love with 'Mary Jane',since before you were born.

I want to change conservative policy towards the war on drugs and marijuana,obviously-it's a failed conservative policy,I vote for Libertarian judges,when I can and this nation does not need to be solely liberal,in order for marijuana to be decrimed or legalized..following the liberal path,will ensure our fall from the Grace of God.

I realize that it's nearly incomprehensible for you to believe,but there are many tokers on the Right,who like me,are working to change certain failed policies of the Right.

Have a good one ....

Euphoric
11-10-2005, 02:58 PM
PwNed!
:thumbsup:

too bad it was me
but at least im nice +high

dopefiend
11-12-2005, 11:15 PM
Howdy onward,

We already knew that it was illegal,this was about putting this as an amendment to the Texas Constitution,so that liberal,God-less activist judges,can't overturn the law already in place,by a stroke of their pen,against the will of the People.

18 other States have voted against gay marriage,what do you have to say to them ?

Have a good one ...
your fuckin stupid man, people should be able to be free to do the things they want, and if a person wants to marry another person of the same sex they should be able to, its not like its hurting anyone

Polymirize
11-13-2005, 12:08 AM
Eventually when the old guard has died out hopefully the government (at the federal level) will realise it's immoral, unconstitutional, and (dare I say it?) unchristian to deny all people the same basic rights and freedoms.

Old habits die hard I guess. Who else are they going to kick around now that civil rights amendments have passed and they can't be overtly racist?

sad

lemonboy
11-13-2005, 04:01 AM
Eventually when the old guard has died out hopefully the government (at the federal level) will realise it's immoral, unconstitutional, and (dare I say it?) unchristian to deny all people the same basic rights and freedoms.Yeah. Look at school-aged kids. It's way un-cool to be homophobic even in the toughest of crowds. It is only a matter of time.

Torog
11-13-2005, 12:08 PM
your f*ckin stupid man, people should be able to be free to do the things they want, and if a person wants to marry another person of the same sex they should be able to, its not like its hurting anyone
Howdy dopefiend,

Your wrong,it does cause harm to society in general,especially if aids cases rise exponentially,as well as STD's. Also,it destroys the meaning of marriage,which has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman. Homosexuality is counter to the laws of Nature,as well,and introduces confusion into the natural instincts to couple with the opposite sex for the purposes of procreation.

I don't think that we have to go into depth about how all of the world's religions are against homosexuality,in Saudi Arabia,for instance,the penalty can be death for being homosexual,I don't believe in that,I'm willing to concede civil unions for homosexuals,but I and millions of other Christians in this country,will go to the election booth and use our vote against destroying the institution of marriage,18 other States have already done so..with more to come..because this country is 86 % Christian,y'all seem to forget that.

Marriage is the building block of any society,without it,societies will crumble because there ain't a natural pyramid of reproduction and a clear establishment of the roles that men and women have. The work force will not be renewed without a steady stream of reproduction,sexual deviancy is more of an indulgence,than a neccesity.

I apologize if my words have offended anyone and if I'm being too cold in my analysis of the situation.

Have a good one ...

Polymirize
11-13-2005, 12:42 PM
I and millions of other Christians in this country,will go to the election booth and use our vote against destroying the institution of marriage,18 other States have already done so..with more to come..because this country is 86 % Christian,y'all seem to forget that.


First off, I'm amazed to see you referencing saudi arabia to support your argument. It's ok to war with the middle east for oil but as soon as some muslims stone a homosexual they seem to be on the right track? I feel like I've missed something.

But in regards to the above quote. Yep, you've got all us non-christians outnumbered. Confound it! The Christians can do whatever they want... Except that one of the roles of the government is to protect the minority from the majority. So no, if there was justice, the courts would recognise people instead of religions and would promptly throw the finger to the current christian lobbies.
Haven't hetero/white/christian marriages already destroyed the concept of marriage anyways? What are you holding onto?

Torog
11-13-2005, 01:14 PM
First off, I'm amazed to see you referencing saudi arabia to support your argument. It's ok to war with the middle east for oil but as soon as some muslims stone a homosexual they seem to be on the right track? I feel like I've missed something.

But in regards to the above quote. Yep, you've got all us non-christians outnumbered. Confound it! The Christians can do whatever they want... Except that one of the roles of the government is to protect the minority from the majority. So no, if there was justice, the courts would recognise people instead of religions and would promptly throw the finger to the current christian lobbies.
Haven't hetero/white/christian marriages already destroyed the concept of marriage anyways? What are you holding onto?
Howdy Polymirize,

The reason that I referenced Saudi Arabia,was that their treatment of homosexuals is from a fundy islamic dictate and is much worse than any treatment that you ascribe to 'homo-phobes' in this country,yet I never see y'all condemning the saudi's for it. It's a double-standard that I rarely ever git an answer to..at least I don't believe in committing violence towards gays,unless they do something horrible,as in the case of 13 year-old Jesse Dirkhising,who was tortured and sodomized and raped,until his death,for almost 24 hours,non-stop..then I believe in the death penalty being applied for such.

Despite the dismal divorce rate that you allude to,what I'm holding onto,is marriage between a man and a woman,for the purpose of repleneshing the population and mental stabilty and clarity,we reproduce heterosexually and our natural instinct,is to do so..when you send the message to our children,that it no longer matters that they fulfill their natural roles,in-stabilty and confusion are the result.

Have a good one ...

bhallg2k
11-13-2005, 03:44 PM
Your wrong,it does cause harm to society in general,especially if aids cases rise exponentially,as well as STD's. Also,it destroys the meaning of marriage,which has always been defined as a union between a man and a woman. Homosexuality is counter to the laws of Nature,as well,and introduces confusion into the natural instincts to couple with the opposite sex for the purposes of procreation.

Marriage is the building block of any society,without it,societies will crumble because there ain't a natural pyramid of reproduction and a clear establishment of the roles that men and women have. The work force will not be renewed without a steady stream of reproduction,sexual deviancy is more of an indulgence,than a neccesity.

Speaking of wrong...

STDs, including AIDS, can just easily be spread between a man and a woman. The whole "only gay people get AIDS" thing is twisted logic that's been generally unaccepted since the mid-'80s. Even then it was only a notion advanced by the insanely naive (ie, Christian homophobes).

Science is a bitch, yanno?

Second, gay marriage doesn't destroy the meaning of marriage, much less the foundation of our society. If Jack and John get married, does that mean that Bob's marriage to Ethel becomes any less important? Do Bob and Ethel love each other less because of it?

Bob and Ethel are still going to get a divorce 50% of the time regardless of what gay people do. So who cares?

And lastly, I don't know about anywhere else, but here in America, marriage is not the building block of our society. That distiction goes to greed, lies and violence. I mean, look at our history and those values being supreme become quite evident.

At any rate, I'm not going to say anything else about this topic. I'm content with being correct on the issue; I don't need to convince anyone else anymore.

I'm tired of the right putting these mindless, unimportant issues out in the mainstream for people to bicker over while our country is being decimated by the worst president in history. That's where I, along with other progressives, should focus energy, the proverbial bigger fish to fry.

nicholasstanko
11-13-2005, 04:13 PM
Howdy Polymirize,

The reason that I referenced Saudi Arabia,was that their treatment of homosexuals is from a fundy islamic dictate and is much worse than any treatment that you ascribe to 'homo-phobes' in this country,yet I never see y'all condemning the saudi's for it. It's a double-standard that I rarely ever git an answer to..at least I don't believe in committing violence towards gays,unless they do something horrible,as in the case of 13 year-old Jesse Dirkhising,who was tortured and sodomized and raped,until his death,for almost 24 hours,non-stop..then I believe in the death penalty being applied for such.

Despite the dismal divorce rate that you allude to,what I'm holding onto,is marriage between a man and a woman,for the purpose of repleneshing the population and mental stabilty and clarity,we reproduce heterosexually and our natural instinct,is to do so..when you send the message to our children,that it no longer matters that they fulfill their natural roles,in-stabilty and confusion are the result.

Have a good one ...



marriage isnt natural. humans invented it. that's why its so easy to cheat on a girlfriend or wife. the only reason that most people who remain faithful do so, is because they have more self-control than others. It's similar to a guy who can eat a pizza and still win a 100 yard dash an hour later. he just has what it takes.

Polymirize
11-13-2005, 11:56 PM
Despite the dismal divorce rate that you allude to,what I'm holding onto,is marriage between a man and a woman,for the purpose of repleneshing the population and mental stabilty and clarity,we reproduce heterosexually and our natural instinct,is to do so..when you send the message to our children,that it no longer matters that they fulfill their natural roles,in-stabilty and confusion are the result.


I understand though I don't agree with this view. And here's why, it seems that there's a generational gap between us. I think many younger people who were raised in the 80's and 90's may be more inclined to see this "traditional" notion of marriage as failed. We're the children of the generation that just couldn't seem to get marriage to work for the most part, and so a new definition seems neccessary.
Telling homosexuals that they can't be married, but asking them to settle for a "civil union" is like telling them they can't really be in "love", that what they're experiencing is simply "homosexual love". As if there was some other form of love between two people.

I don't think the people are important in a marriage, but rather the relationship they share.

I think if we teach our children that there is no limit on human potential, that we are free to move beyond our "historical" roles, then progress will result.

lemonboy
11-14-2005, 05:58 PM
"I believe that I might have come up with a compromise to this whole problem that will make everyone happy! People in the gay community want the same rights as married couples, but dissenters don't want the word 'marriage' corrupted. So how about we let gay people get married, but call it something else? You homosexuals will have all the exact same rights as married couples, but instead of referring to you as 'married,' you can be... butt buddies. Instead of being 'man and wife,' you'll be... butt buddies. You won't be 'betrothed,' you'll be... butt buddies. Get it? Instead of a 'bride and groom,' you'd be... butt buddies."

I'd also like to point out how irresponsible and cruel it is to distort the reality that is HIV/AIDS. By implying that a disease like HIV/AIDS would spread faster in group of committed, loving individuals does a grave injustice to those that have spent their entire lives trying to slow the epidemic.

On the backs of dead men, women, and children you once again lie and manipulate the truth to further your cause at any cost.

Funken Monken
11-19-2005, 01:16 PM
I dont see what the problem is. If all those christians are so offended by gay marriage.....forgive them. Simple, and the world becomes a more peacful and nicer place

eg420ne
11-19-2005, 05:31 PM
the christian right forgive hahahahahah :dance: thats about as funny as bush saying we dont torture