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Mellow Man
11-07-2005, 07:20 PM
O'k first allow me to say this is the first grow I am using advance nutes.
My nute program is:
sensi A
Sensi B
Voodo Juice
bug bud!
I am growing in potting soil
shultz1/2 Mix and 1/2 mix of perlite...
I heard that this advance nute program is a very good yeild and resin producing kit! Now Latewood did give me advice on approaching the feeding schedule! and stuff,but I also have the product called carbo load as well as bud blood............how could I work these products into my feeding schedule without damaging my plants or is to much of a good thing to much?.........
Thanks.
latewood
11-07-2005, 10:09 PM
voodoo juice you only use thru 2nd week of flower...
bud blood is only used 1 week... 1st week of flower nutes...then you use big bud...until over drive or flush, if you don't get overdrive...I don't use carboload, so I can't recall...
Go to advanced nutrient calculator...change value to reflect how many gallons you are mixing, then add 50% of what the schedule says to add until you acclimate plants to nute program. It's that simple...if you don't have it, skip it. you will notice that bud blood is used 1 week only! voodoo juice is cut out after second week of flower...I almost forgot, I use 3-part, but I assume that this part of the formula would be the same...check it out, The AN site has everything you want to know about there products...how, when to use them...
I think you should add Liquid Karma to your recipe
lemonboy
11-07-2005, 11:43 PM
Actually the AN calculator is broken right now. You can't remove the addons from the base product so unless you are using the full 2+ line they recommend following the advice on the bottles. Apparently the old calculator was wrong and causing lots of problems so they are fixing it before adding that functunality back.
Zandor
11-08-2005, 05:50 PM
O'k first allow me to say this is the first grow I am using advance nutes.
My nute program is:
sensi A
Sensi B
Voodo Juice
bug bud!
I am growing in potting soil
shultz1/2 Mix and 1/2 mix of perlite...
I heard that this advance nute program is a very good yeild and resin producing kit! Now Latewood did give me advice on approaching the feeding schedule! and stuff,but I also have the product called carbo load as well as bud blood............how could I work these products into my feeding schedule without damaging my plants or is to much of a good thing to much?.........
Thanks.
Well if it were me I would drop the organic mix (voodo Juice). Try Sensi Zyme instead. CarboLoad is a good choice to add too.
I would use Bud Blood to kick them into bloom then use Big bud to finish, except for the last 2 weeks then you use more Bud Blood.
Mellow Man
11-08-2005, 06:51 PM
Well if it were me I would drop the organic mix (voodo Juice). Try Sensi Zyme instead. CarboLoad is a good choice to add too.
I would use Bud Blood to kick them into bloom then use Big bud to finish, except for the last 2 weeks then you use more Bud Blood.
So for the last 2 weeks you go back to using more bud blood?,could you exsplain why Zandor? I thought bud blood was only used in the first week of flowering to get the plants to switch to flowering plants at a faster pace? I never knew you could use it again in the last couple of weeks what would be the reason for this,have you stubbled into a method with bud blood that we don't know about?....thanks for your time...much appreciated...
I should also ask at what rate would I mix the bud blood for a soil grow?
cnd411
11-08-2005, 07:15 PM
O'k first allow me to say this is the first grow I am using advance nutes.
My nute program is:
sensi A
Sensi B
Voodo Juice
bug bud!
I am growing in potting soil
shultz1/2 Mix and 1/2 mix of perlite...
I heard that this advance nute program is a very good yeild and resin producing kit! Now Latewood did give me advice on approaching the feeding schedule! and stuff,but I also have the product called carbo load as well as bud blood............how could I work these products into my feeding schedule without damaging my plants or is to much of a good thing to much?.........
Thanks.
Using Sensi A and B as your base. CarboLoad is used all the way up to harvest. Voodoo Juice is used in the first two weeks of flowering stage. Bud Blood is only used once in the first week of flowering stage. Big Bud is used from the second week up to 2 weeks before harvest. Overdrive is used on the last 2 weeks and then flush. AN suggests you flush with Final Phase for a week for better taste.
latewood
11-08-2005, 09:03 PM
Zandor...I use overdrive in last 2 weeks before flush...Why do you recommend using bud blood instead? Curious, because I agree with cnd411 about finishing with AN overdrive and final phase...
latewood
11-08-2005, 09:05 PM
Using Sensi A and B as your base. CarboLoad is used all the way up to harvest. Voodoo Juice is used in the first two weeks of flowering stage. Bud Blood is only used once in the first week of flowering stage. Big Bud is used from the second week up to 2 weeks before harvest. Overdrive is used on the last 2 weeks and then flush. AN suggests you flush with Final Phase for a week for better taste.Although I use 3-part instead of A & B...I follow the same regimen cnd411 posted here, but you already know that...lw
also, cnd411...if you go to AN calculator...they include flush week in week count...so 3 weeks before harvest you add overdrive then final phase/flush the last week...as Dad used to say, "six in one hand...1/2 dozen in the other :)
Zandor
11-08-2005, 09:43 PM
Well to be honest I always thought that is how it was to be used. The last 4 grows I used that is how I used it and got great results. I always thought that was on the label but I guess it's not. Now I see they have Bloom Booster I wonder if they changed the first version of Bub Blood? I guess not but I always thought it was the first week and then again the last 2 weeks before flush.
O-Well my bad I guess.
I have switched to MOAB (Mother of all buds) for my current round and the next few to try it out. That product you use the first week and then again the last 2 weeks before flush.
You do need to cut down on the regular final flower nutrients mix by as much as 50% strength but the extra boost is worth it. They really pack on the weight and get big.
Man I swear that is how you used to use Bud Blood too.
cnd411
11-08-2005, 10:18 PM
Although I use 3-part instead of A & B...I follow the same regimen cnd411 posted here, but you already know that...lw
also, cnd411...if you go to AN calculator...they include flush week in week count...so 3 weeks before harvest you add overdrive then final phase/flush the last week...as Dad used to say, "six in one hand...1/2 dozen in the other :)
Hi latewood,
If you go to AN Foruns, there were many great tips about flushing. Some guys only flush for a few days, others flush for one week , 2 weeks or even 3 weeks. The reason to flush is to get rid off the nutrients salt,chemical, out of your buds for better taste. If you go with 100% organic line, you don't have to flush at all.
If you still want to count on your flushing? It is up to you. There is no need to discuss about it.
latewood
11-09-2005, 01:34 AM
Hi latewood,
If you go to AN Foruns, there were many great tips about flushing. Some guys only flush for a few days, others flush for one week , 2 weeks or even 3 weeks. The reason to flush is to get rid off the nutrients salt,chemical, out of your buds for better taste. If you go with 100% organic line, you don't have to flush at all.
If you still want to count on your flushing? It is up to you. There is no need to discuss about it.I thought it was a waste the other day, but you brought it up...last night plain as day on the nute calculator it shows the final week of schedule no nutes except final phase across the board, so AN counts the flush time :cool: ...I'm glad to have another knowledgable AN grower on these forums. Just do us both a favor...don't nitpick me and I won't follow up on some stupid matter of opinion ;) ...peace
cnd411
11-09-2005, 04:55 AM
I thought it was a waste the other day, but you brought it up...last night plain as day on the nute calculator it shows the final week of schedule no nutes except final phase across the board, so AN counts the flush time :cool: ...I'm glad to have another knowledgable AN grower on these forums. Just do us both a favor...don't nitpick me and I won't follow up on some stupid matter of opinion ;) ...peace
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"Spaceship" its a 40 days medical strain. I tried to set the calculator for 6 weeks but would not do less then 7. Is there a way of adjusting the measurments to fit my needs? one more thing,Tonight @ ten O'clock the bloom begins, should i feed plain water for tonight then give new solution tomorrow or Should I give new solution today so it will soak by tomorrow.
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06-06-05, 23:26
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40 days thats nuts! where did you pick that strain up from?
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06-06-05, 23:33
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You are right,the calc does only set as low as 7 week...49 days.Keep in mind though that it is including a week of flush,which is not counted in your flowering time.So it is in fact a 42 day calc....plus flush..
Should be close enough for you?
The answer to your second question is IMHO..always water first before changing up nute regimes.
Again tomorrow?? how often and how much are you watering these plants,and whats your medium?
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latewood
11-10-2005, 01:14 AM
hey Guys MM, cnd, Z
Damn Z you got me digging for research material on that bud blood at the end...
I can tell you one thing this last flower phase with my clones...I was juicin' them pretty good when I got to overdrive and it worked! they sugared up well, of course that was right about the time thyat my hortilux arrived..hmmm
Zandor
11-10-2005, 02:14 AM
Like I said that is what I did. If it was right or not I guess not but that's what I did anyway. Just like the MOAB and other products that boost like 1-52-34 and use extra food grade Phosphoric Acid and potash to boost flower size. Most of them all work the same give or take. Some do work better then others just look for ones that have no dyes.
It was last year when I use Bud Blood but it work fine. Just expensive to buy is all. The MOAB is not as bad but still expensive to buy and use.
Mellow Man
11-10-2005, 03:41 AM
Ya I'm looking forward to see how this new step in advance nute works out for me,I guess I just gotta pay special attention to how much i'm feeding my plants,should I remain at half strength through the complete 7 weeks? at what point can I bump up the nutes without killing the grow,but first I got to get past this magnesium defiency lol........
latewood
11-11-2005, 12:36 AM
It is up to you, but it wouldn't hurt to get in a grow without problems, by using 50% all the way. I did my first grow that way. I will also say that I haven't had a problem
since I went to full nutes (light/mod. light feeding for hydro has worked great for me)
so if you want to, go for it! I have seen growth with these nutes, that I don't think would've happened with other brands...not all, but having an entire regimen at your disposal is comforting...imho...lw...gotta go and edit some pix of my dead clones...a moth got in the res...story later.
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