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DazedandConfused
11-05-2005, 08:13 PM
I just got this information from gooddrugsguide.com or something. im so confused as to what the answer of this question is because you hear different things so much.
"tolerance
Tolerance builds up rapidly after a few doses and disappears rapidly after a couple of days of abstinence. Heavy users need as much as eight times higher doses to achieve the same psychoactive effects as regular users using smaller amounts. They still get stoned but not as powerfully."
GSW389
11-05-2005, 08:22 PM
what question? true or false? its true.
Anonymous
11-05-2005, 08:26 PM
i think its tru cuz when i first started to smoke i got rly high but now i dont get as high i donno if its due to tolerance or me just havin more control over my high
koshea
11-05-2005, 08:32 PM
im gonna call bullshit here, tolerance is real but 8X? i dunno about yall but one gram of dro uesd to get me fucking blasted, a gram still gets me high and 8 grams would probally kill me (of the shit i get)
DazedandConfused
11-05-2005, 09:38 PM
the question was if you build a tolerance to weed or not duh.
beachguy in thongs
11-05-2005, 09:39 PM
I will plead the fifth.
OzzyOz
11-05-2005, 09:40 PM
tolerance does build up, i've heard of people toking up' every single day... and then not being able to get as high.
The cure for this is to to take 2-3 weeks off smoking ( if you can't do that, your pathetic) and then you will then feel like the first time you got high, but much better ;-) well maybe...
tolerance builds up only if you toke more than every 3 days i'm guessing...
BobBong
11-05-2005, 09:41 PM
Fifth Amendment 4 Life.
dark0ne
11-05-2005, 09:42 PM
i think you can build tolorence, but i also think alot of that is phycosematic and all in your head. My freind swears she doesn't get high off of one blunt anymore, i think she's been telling herself that so long that she accualy doesn't get high from one blunt. on the other hand i havn't been smoking, and when i do toke even shitty weed gets me rocked. :rasta:
beachguy in thongs
11-05-2005, 09:42 PM
No, I'm not gonna. Mats and Rice don't built up a tolerance.
and ...
According to the U.S. Institute of Medicine (IOM), when examining drug addiction, tolerance, dependence, and withdrawal are the characteristics most often assessed to determine whether or not an addiction is indicated. Although some users of marijuana may experience slight tolerance, dependence, or withdrawal associated with use, the IOM argues that this is not evidence that marijuana is addictive. The organization asserts that tolerance and dependence are normal physiological adaptations to repeated use of any substance, including prescription drugs. Safe, appropriate use of many prescribed medications -- for pain, anxiety, hypertension, etc. -- routinely produces some level of tolerance and a slight physiological dependence that is addressed through dosage and may lead to withdrawal symptoms if stopped abruptly, rather than gradually.
The IOM also reported that observable symptoms attributed to marijuana withdrawal are rare and were only identifiable in "unique patient settings... limited to adolescents in treatment facilities for substance abuse problems, and in a research setting where subjects were given marijuana or THC daily." Compared to the withdrawal associated with alcohol or heroin, the marijuana-related symptoms of restlessness, irritability, and sleep disruption are minor. According to reports, the symptoms are not "severe enough to re-initiate use of cannabis." The criteria of tolerance, dependence, and withdrawal, therefore, do not indicate marijuana addiction, assert proponents of marijuana legalization.
http://www.kqed.org/topics/news/perspectives/youdecide/pop/marijuana/1no.html
BobBong
11-05-2005, 09:44 PM
No, I'm not gonna. Mats and Rice don't built up a tolerance.
and ...
According to the U.S. Institute of Medicine (IOM), when examining drug addiction, tolerance, dependence, and withdrawal are the characteristics most often assessed to determine whether or not an addiction is indicated. Although some users of marijuana may experience slight tolerance, dependence, or withdrawal associated with use, the IOM argues that this is not evidence that marijuana is addictive. The organization asserts that tolerance and dependence are normal physiological adaptations to repeated use of any substance, including prescription drugs. Safe, appropriate use of many prescribed medications -- for pain, anxiety, hypertension, etc. -- routinely produces some level of tolerance and a slight physiological dependence that is addressed through dosage and may lead to withdrawal symptoms if stopped abruptly, rather than gradually.
The IOM also reported that observable symptoms attributed to marijuana withdrawal are rare and were only identifiable in "unique patient settings... limited to adolescents in treatment facilities for substance abuse problems, and in a research setting where subjects were given marijuana or THC daily." Compared to the withdrawal associated with alcohol or heroin, the marijuana-related symptoms of restlessness, irritability, and sleep disruption are minor. According to reports, the symptoms are not "severe enough to re-initiate use of cannabis." The criteria of tolerance, dependence, and withdrawal, therefore, do not indicate marijuana addiction, assert proponents of marijuana legalization.
http://www.kqed.org/topics/news/perspectives/youdecide/pop/marijuana/1no.html
:D I knew you'd come through :smokin:
daZenfmeister
11-05-2005, 09:49 PM
The IOM that sounds so fucking fake
DazedandConfused
11-05-2005, 09:55 PM
whats the difference between a physiological tolerance and a psychological one? its true that you dont build a physiological one but some tend to build a psychological one right?
so my guess would be that if you get it out of your head that you arent getting as high anymore, then youll be able to get as high as you used to right?
Flesh420
11-05-2005, 10:30 PM
who cares about tolerence just smoke different strains and u should be good. At least thats how it works for me
maskedpantsman
11-06-2005, 01:00 AM
dammit, now I have to change my avatar.
Lily420
11-06-2005, 01:11 AM
"tolerance
Tolerance builds up rapidly after a few doses and disappears rapidly after a couple of days of abstinence. Heavy users need as much as eight times higher doses to achieve the same psychoactive effects as regular users using smaller amounts. They still get stoned but not as powerfully."
Thats bullshit
beachguy in thongs
11-06-2005, 02:13 PM
The IOM that sounds so fucking fake
"The capacity to produce reinforcing effects is essential to any drug with significant abuse potential." Marijuana should no longer be considered a serious drug abuse because, as summarized by the OTA: "Animals will not self-administer THC in controlled studies . . . . Cannabinoids generally do not lower the threshold needed to get animals to self-stimulate the brain regard system, as do other drugs of abuse." Marijuana does not produce reinforcing effects. The definitive experiment which measures drug-induced dopamine production utilizes microdialysis is live, freely-moving rats. Brain microdialysis has proven that opiates, cocaine, amphetamines, nicotine and alcohol all affect dopamine production, whereas marijuana does not. This latest research confirms and explains Hollister's 1986 conclusion about cannabis and addiction: "Physical dependence is rarely encountered in the usual patterns, despite some degree of tolerance that may develop." Most important, the discoveries of Howlett and Devane, Herkenham and their associates demonstrate that the cannabinoid receptors do not influence the dopamine reward system.
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/BRAIN.HTM
"More good fathers and mothers have lost the God-given right to be with their kids due to inappropriate marijuana laws than due to physical abuse. That is INSANE. In divorce battles, judges routinely ignore a parent's moderate alcohol use. Why not ignore moderate marijuana use by responsible people ? Marijuana use by non-criminal persons should have no criminal penalties associated with it whatsoever ! NORML Canada will settle for nothing less. Any criminal penalties for marijuana possession open the door for all sorts of smears, blackmail and dishonesty in many forms. Nobody deserves that !" -Umberto
It's fucken hard to understand where some fucken people come from when they say shit like "fucking fake".
STDzRus
11-07-2005, 11:46 AM
Good thread.
Tolerance builds up just think about it.
Your body is used to having a new amount of chemicals in it's system, so in return it says "hey this must be normal" so it becomes adept to these high levels of chemicals. So it takes more to produce the effects as opposed to not having any of these chemicals in your system.
psychopixi
11-07-2005, 01:48 PM
I notice my tolerance building up... and going down again. Finding a decent, reliable dealer in this area is getting difficult now, so we tend to pick up one week, then have nothing for the next three.
somebody someone
11-07-2005, 02:04 PM
Yeah its true, to a degree. I would say regular users may need upto 3x the amount at times maybe but nowhere near 8
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