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RUKind
11-03-2005, 01:11 AM
i use an aeroflo36 that can be seen here... http://gallery.cannabis.com/index.php?cat=45139
what should the ph of the resevoir be in an aeroponic system. it seems to me that since the roots arent encased in rockwool but rather are suspended and misted that 5.8 is a bit low. i currently keep it at 6.0 since im unsure. any help would be sweet....thx friends

LOC NAR1958
11-03-2005, 01:50 AM
Dude your shit looks great. If you can keep it between 5.8 and 6.0 your in there don't change what your doing. Hydro PH is on the low side soil is up about 7.5 . Rockwool sucks don't need it don't use it, causes rot but some like it and have good luck with it. There's a nute chart in the faq's that shows what nutes are picked up at what PH level.

RUKind
11-03-2005, 07:04 PM
thx....yeah, i found that chart to be very interesting. so much so in fact that i printed it out and have it on the wall for easy reference :thumbsup:

latewood
11-03-2005, 09:58 PM
I run my hydro 5.4-5.9 and my soil at 6.5-7.0...No higher than 7.0...that is the high side...above 7.0 and the ph level won't allow uptake of key nutes n-p-k...but also as LOCNAR stated...if they look good, leave them alone...It is good that you ask and don't take info for granted. I sometimes raise/lower ph in order to have plant uptake a particular nutrient; as slight changes in ph create optimum conditions for each nutrient...latewood

Garden Knowm
11-03-2005, 10:54 PM
"I sometimes raise/lower ph in order to have plant uptake a particular nutrient;"

people - this guy latewood is SMART... sometimes you gotta break the ph rules to get adequate nuts to your ladies..

LOC NAR1958
11-03-2005, 11:09 PM
Garden ,latewood, Zandor. I would like to know half of what you all have forgotten. I'm learning. Maybe you guy's can get together for a book. But then you being here is worth way more. Thanks all you guy's.

RUKind
11-04-2005, 09:53 AM
thx fellas....its soooo nice to be in control of "the elements" rather than at the mercy of them. ive been growing outside since i was a kid

Zandor
11-04-2005, 04:16 PM
If you are worried about Ph then check out the chart of Ph availability in the FAQ.

Ph should very with the cycle from 5.2 up to 6.2 depending on how the plant responds.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=25080

RUKind
11-04-2005, 04:23 PM
:thumbsup: thx zandor

CANABIZNIS
11-11-2005, 03:43 AM
wow OLD post BUT..> pH question...Mine stays at exactly 7, sound good?

Zandor
11-11-2005, 04:01 AM
Ph for Aeroponics or any hydroponics is 5.2 - 5.5 but in truth you can go up to 5.8 - 6.2 and still be ok later in the cycle. (Like after the first 30 day's)

It will creap up but you should bring it back down every day sometime twice a day. to normal range. 7.0 is more for dirt farming and not Hysroponics

CANABIZNIS
11-11-2005, 04:06 AM
Note: Closet growing... how do i lower it?

RUKind
11-12-2005, 02:37 AM
first you need to measure it....then you need to lower it. i saw this in another post.

"Bill don't use that stuff, it is not food grad acid based so you can't use it for your plants.

To answer you next question Baking soda and Lemon juice make good Ph Up and Down but they do not last as long as the commercial versions do.
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RUKind
11-12-2005, 02:44 AM
(since this thread is still alive)...i have noticed that whenever i refill my rez, the ph will go down from 6.0- to 5.5 then after a few days will creep back up and will require adjustment (ph down). this seems to be a pretty regular affair. i assume this has to do with nutrient uptake....am i wrong? just curious.....

Garden Knowm
11-12-2005, 05:05 AM
Note: Closet growing... how do i lower it?
hey dude.. 7.o is high.. definitley HIGH

BUT...BUT.. can you post a pic..
How do your plants look..?

LIke ZANDOR said.. aero is usually lower...

6.0 is always a good target..

Maybe your ph meter is off, or your plants like 7.o... or Your nutrients have some unknown factor...

Garden Knowm
11-12-2005, 05:08 AM
(since this thread is still alive)...i have noticed that whenever i refill my rez, the ph will go down from 6.0- to 5.5 then after a few days will creep back up and will require adjustment (ph down). this seems to be a pretty regular affair. i assume this has to do with nutrient uptake....am i wrong? just curious.....

I took this tour of a hydro facility and the MAIN cat told me that
plants give "something" off in the water that raises the PH..


very normal

you can see why it is ok to ph your water at 5.2 and just let it rise to 6.o..

then you get the whole spectrum of nutrient absorbtion!!
: )

CANABIZNIS
11-12-2005, 06:38 AM
hey dude.. 7.o is high.. definitley HIGH

BUT...BUT.. can you post a pic..
How do your plants look..?

LIke ZANDOR said.. aero is usually lower...

6.0 is always a good target..

Maybe your ph meter is off, or your plants like 7.o... or Your nutrients have some unknown factor...


i dont use nutrients..im in about 2 weeks of veg flowering, leafs are mutated and look like shit cant get a good temp in the closet so there all probably gunna die.

SOG
11-12-2005, 10:41 AM
If you are worried about Ph then check out the chart of Ph availability in the FAQ.

Ph should very with the cycle from 5.2 up to 6.2 depending on how the plant responds.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=25080

Zandor, I am new to the site and have a couple questions you may be able to answer. I have 12 plants in a Deep Water Culture system. They have been in the system for two weeks now and are looking good. I am curious why the pH climbs daily. The first week it appeared that they wanted the water more than the nutes as the PPM was very steady. This week the PPM is dropping gradualy which I assume means they are feeding. I plan to change the solution today and set the PPM at around 1100. I took some pics at one week if you want/need to see them.

My second question is this: I use a 1000 watt HPS on a 6 foot motorized track. If I wanted to expand my next grow do you feel this is enough light given the distance it travels? In other words, since it would be six feet away from the plants for a minute or so on each travel down the rail is this a problem for the plants or does it not matter? I am currently using about 2/3 of the travel with the pause at each end set at 30 seconds.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

RUKind
11-12-2005, 12:42 PM
"I took this tour of a hydro facility and the MAIN cat told me that
plants give "something" off in the water that raises the PH..
very normal
you can see why it is ok to ph your water at 5.2 and just let it rise to 6.o..
then you get the whole spectrum of nutrient absorbtion!!
: )"


well thx man... i assumed it had to do w/ the plants absorbing the nutes from the water thus creating a more alkaline medium.

ANYWAYS......how bout this one. i want to cut my plants off from nitrogen to get rid of the "green" taste.

1.what ph level am i shooting for to accomplish this? :confused:

2. at what point in flowering do make this adjustment. :confused:

you guys are the shiznit :thumbsup: :dance:

Zandor
11-12-2005, 04:53 PM
Zandor, I am new to the site and have a couple questions you may be able to answer. I have 12 plants in a Deep Water Culture system. They have been in the system for two weeks now and are looking good. I am curious why the pH climbs daily. The first week it appeared that they wanted the water more than the nutes as the PPM was very steady. This week the PPM is dropping gradualy which I assume means they are feeding. I plan to change the solution today and set the PPM at around 1100. I took some pics at one week if you want/need to see them.

My second question is this: I use a 1000 watt HPS on a 6 foot motorized track. If I wanted to expand my next grow do you feel this is enough light given the distance it travels? In other words, since it would be six feet away from the plants for a minute or so on each travel down the rail is this a problem for the plants or does it not matter? I am currently using about 2/3 of the travel with the pause at each end set at 30 seconds.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Light movers are fine and I know of many people who use 10' rails. I prefer the 6' rails when I have grows that can use them. Do the math for the foot print of your light. 1000w HPS lights have a foot print about 4' or so it's just the ends that don't have full time light but that's ok you still get good coverage. Just watch the temperature at the top of the canopy and you will be fine.

Zandor
11-12-2005, 05:02 PM
"I took this tour of a hydro facility and the MAIN cat told me that
plants give "something" off in the water that raises the PH..
very normal
you can see why it is ok to ph your water at 5.2 and just let it rise to 6.o..
then you get the whole spectrum of nutrient absorbtion!!
: )"


well thx man... i assumed it had to do w/ the plants absorbing the nutes from the water thus creating a more alkaline medium.

ANYWAYS......how bout this one. i want to cut my plants off from nitrogen to get rid of the "green" taste.

1.what ph level am i shooting for to accomplish this? :confused:

2. at what point in flowering do make this adjustment. :confused:

you guys are the shiznit :thumbsup: :dance:
Your plants take nutrients and deposit back-unused nutrients. That mixture is at different levels from when you first made them up. Your PPM is only good for your base NPK formula. Once you add your boosters sure you can check it and track it but there is really nothing you can do but to hold on, balance the Ph and wait until your next change. The PPM will change about 12-24 hours after you start to feed them and that's ok.

You just balance the Ph and change the water and nutrients every 7-10 day's and the PPM is not a problem. (Assuming you have started with the proper number in the first place)

You stop feeding "N" about 10 day's before you flush that will force the plant to start using up stored chlorophyll and reduce the cure time and improve the overall taste.

Garden Knowm
11-12-2005, 06:01 PM
i dont use nutrients..im in about 2 weeks of veg flowering, leafs are mutated and look like shit cant get a good temp in the closet so there all probably gunna die.

: (

CANABIZNIS
11-12-2005, 11:07 PM
lookin pretty health for mutated leafs tho ..maybe ill get sum mutated yield lol

SOG
11-15-2005, 10:15 AM
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it.

CANABIZNIS
11-15-2005, 10:20 AM
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