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[beachguy in thongs]

Pick your favorite Bible Quote

Peter - "I am writing to God's chosen people who are living as foreigners in the lands of Ponutus, Galatia, Cappadocia, the province of Asia, and Bithynia."

James - "So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be strong in character and ready for anything."

Paul - "I left you on the island of Crete so you could complete our work there and appoint elders in each town as I instructed you."

Luke - (Jesus speaking) "But when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, you will receive power and will tell people about me everywhere - in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the Earth."

John - "In the beginning the Word existed. He was with God, and he was God."

Mark - "Look, I am sending my messenger before you, and he will prepare your way."

Matthew - "People need more than bread for their life; they must feed on every word of God."

Moses - "Look, they won't believe me! They won't do what I tell them. They'll just say, 'The LORD never appeared to you.'"

[Roadking]

the fifth one down by John Boy is kinda trippy....

:cool:

[king kong bong]

mine are...
austin 3:16 says i just whooped your ass
and
its 4:20 and i just smoked your ass

[lemonboy]

I'm still waiting for a version of The Bible to come out that hasn't been heavily altered by "scholars". I'll get back to you.

[beachguy in thongs]

King Kong,

That sounds like Malfa 2:21.

I just smoked your whopper.

[Whos Carl]

Mr BOng very into your wrestling arent you. Should put it in your sig like me.

[robert42]

I like Peter

[beachguy in thongs]

I'm still waiting for a version of The Bible to come out that hasn't been heavily altered by "scholars". I'll get back to you.

I have a copy, as soon as I get it typed up in my computer, I'll email it to you. :stoned:

[beachguy in thongs]

I like Peter

Of course, you would.

[Reefer Rogue]

I don't think Paul ever had any contact with Jesus, so i disregard all of his preachings. I really only care about what Jesus said himself.

[king kong bong]

I'm still waiting for a version of The Bible to come out that hasn't been heavily altered by "scholars". I'll get back to you.

i'll wait with you.


i was really into wrasslin back in the day.i think when i saw tna the other day,it relit my fire.

[robert42]

lol whats this gotta do with wrestling wrogn thread lol unless jesus was in the ECW!

[lateralus]

And then I appeared, like the light at the end of a dark tunnel, revered by all, worshipped by beachguy, and God could see that it was good.
....................lateralus 5:34

</blasphemy>

[robert42]

And then god made Robert42 and Civilisation was created in the form of a man with a donkey penis ROBERT42

[king kong bong]

lol whats this gotta do with wrestling wrogn thread lol unless jesus was in the ECW!

he was.his finisher was the praying powerbomb.

[beachguy in thongs]

I chose James.

James - "So let it grow, for when your endurance is fully developed, you will be strong in character and ready for anything."

Let the Cannabis grow. When we can all take huge hits, our spirits will be strong enough to control our biological processes, and start learning methods of self-maintenance similar to asexuality.

[Whos Carl]

I thought his finisher was the Crucifix Powerbomb.

[king kong bong]

I thought his finisher was the Crucifix Powerbomb.

oh yea true.the praying powerbomb was his signature move along with the crucifix pin.

[F L E S H]

The Bible is mind pollution. Nothing has destroyed more lives than it. Destroy blind faith! :pimp:

[beachguy in thongs]

I don't think Paul ever had any contact with Jesus, so i disregard all of his preachings. I really only care about what Jesus said himself.

I'm looking into it. It says that Paul had left Jerusalem for 14 years, then came back with Barnabas and Titua. He thought he was meant to go back, so he did, and went directly to the leaders of the Church, it seems God told him to go back to Jerusalem (smoking too much herb).

Paul's first letter to the Church, in Rome, said he was Jesus Christ's slave.

[beachguy in thongs]

The Bible is mind pollution. Nothing has destroyed more lives than it. Destroy blind faith! :pimp:

If you bury your head in it, even to make a joke about the people who wrote it, after Jesus Christ was murdered, your not gonna be wasting your timing destroying blind faith. The Bible is reference material. Give me another book that's 3400 to 1920 years old, and I swear that I'll quote it.

[beachguy in thongs]

oh yea true.the praying powerbomb was his signature move along with the crucifix pin.

LOL, I was reading this thread backwards.

A+ Post.

[lemonboy]

The Bible is reference material.Unless you're the President of the United States where it is an historically accurate picture of the life and times of Jesus Christ.

[Bouldercreekbud]

I'm still waiting for a version of The Bible to come out that hasn't been heavily altered by "scholars". I'll get back to you.

Nothing has been altered... The Dead Sea Scrolls prove that much of the Bible has been miraculously preserved. For instance, in the Dead Sea scrolls was found a complete book of Isaiah. This is a hotly debated prophet because of all his references pointing toward the Virgin Birth of Christ Jesus among many other prophesies that were fulfilled regarding Jesus.

By The Way,
Do you think God would let us run around this earth in Darkness w/no direction in life by allowing evil to corrupt his guide for living an upright and decent life? I highly Doubt it, especially since the words explicitly warn people not to change any words in the Bible. If anything were to be removed this would be one of the many, in order to manipulate the masses, but now since we have our own Bibles, we can read for ourselves the wonders of this life and the life to come, providing we believe and understand with our pee sized brains a glimpse of the Nature of a Wondrous and Good God.

[lateralus]

Virgin BirthI, for one, know that Joseph was getting more than PMS vibes in the manger. :dance:

[dirtyhippy420]

My favorites are "I am god, follow me or I shall smote your ass. Now give the people who told you this your money and your little boys."; "Thinking is hard. Follow me and you'll never have to do it again, and since I am such a nice entity, it will only cost you ten percent of what you make" or "Show me the money!"

[buginabassbin]

didn't you hear they found a missing page from the bible!!!!!!! they think it was from the very beginning or very end it translates thus:















All characters and events depicted herein are fictional. Any similarity to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.

[ermitonto]

Leviticus has some nice, wholesome quotes that espouse some of those good old Christian family values they're always talking about.

Leviticus 5:7-9

And if he be not able to bring a lamb, then he shall bring for his trespass, which he hath committed, two turtledoves, or two young pigeons, unto the LORD; one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering.

And he shall bring them unto the priest, who shall offer that which is for the sin offering first, and wring off his head from his neck, but shall not divide it asunder:

And he shall sprinkle of the blood of the sin offering upon the side of the altar; and the rest of the blood shall be wrung out at the bottom of the altar: it is a sin offering.

Leviticus 20:10

And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Leviticus 20:13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Leviticus 24:16

And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.
Jesus H. Christ, who comes up with all these goddamn rules? I mean--oh crap--I didn't mean that! Please don't kill me!

[beachguy in thongs]

That stuff you wrote, E-tito, was written by Moses between 1220-1420 B.C.
Different story.

[likemclever]

That stuff you wrote, E-tito, was written by Moses between 1220-1420 B.C.
Different story.

Yep

[ermitonto]

Different story from what? It's in the Bible. It's all the same book. And I still haven't seen any evidence that there even was such a person named Moses, or that there ever were enslaved Jews in Egypt who then wandered around in the desert for 40 years (you'd think they'd have left some archeological evidence somewhere).

How can anyone say that the Bible is a book of peace, when it is filled with such heinous expressions of pure hatred and intolerance? I really don't see how it could possibly be construed as a message of peace, when the deity it describes is such an asshole to everybody who disagrees with him. Here are just some of the HUNDREDS OF VERSES (http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/long.html) illustrating this:

To start out, there's the clear admission by Jesus that his mission is actually to bring conflict and war to the Earth:

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
And anyone who forgets about God will be torn to pieces:

Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
I'm sure you're familiar with the plagues, in which God ruthlessly murders the first born child of all the Egyptians, who supposedly were keeping the Jews as slaves. Not the people committing the crimes, but THEIR CHILDREN! :mad: He doesn't use his infinite superpowers to directly solve the problem, but chooses instead to murder innocent little kids. Some loving God that is.

And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle.
Whether you go to Heaven or Hell is totally dependent on whether you believe in Jesus. So Jeffrey Dahmer goes to Heaven but Gandhi goes to Hell and is tortured for all eternity. How could a peaceful, tolerant, loving God do something like that?

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
And then there's the story about how this supposedly loving God murders forty-two more innocent children by sending bears to rip them to pieces, just because they made fun of Elisha's baldress:

And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
Then there's the part where God orders his chosen people to kill all the Amalekites because the ancestors of the Amalekites got in their way hundreds of years ago when they were trying to cross the desert. It's not just innocent children who are murdered this time, but a whole innocent people. That's genocide any way you look at it.

Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
What more proof do you need that this is some of the most vile hate literature in all of history? The insensitivity and outright cruelty of this stuff makes me sick to my stomach. I will never become a Christian because I could never subscribe to an ideology that condones genocide and murder, or an ideology that says the genocidal child-murdering dictator of the universe is somehow all-loving and cares about you. Peace will never come to Earth until Christianity and all other doctrines of hatred are abandoned.

[w4terb0ng]

I like Peter



:dance:

[Euphoric]

Nothing has been altered... The Dead Sea Scrolls prove that much of the Bible has been miraculously preserved. For instance, in the Dead Sea scrolls was found a complete book of Isaiah. This is a hotly debated prophet because of all his references pointing toward the Virgin Birth of Christ Jesus among many other prophesies that were fulfilled regarding Jesus.

By The Way,
Do you think God would let us run around this earth in Darkness w/no direction in life by allowing evil to corrupt his guide for living an upright and decent life? I highly Doubt it, especially since the words explicitly warn people not to change any words in the Bible. If anything were to be removed this would be one of the many, in order to manipulate the masses, but now since we have our own Bibles, we can read for ourselves the wonders of this life and the life to come, providing we believe and understand with our pee sized brains a glimpse of the Nature of a Wondrous and Good God.

^^^^WRONG

[beachguy in thongs]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew 10:34-36
Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.





But before that, he warned his Apostles that "Brother will betray brother to death, fathers will betray their own children, and children will rise against their parents and cause them to be killed." Matthew 10:21

Which is true.

And right before that "sword" reference (Matthew 10:32, 33), Jesus says, "If anyone acknowledges me publicly here on earth, I will openly acknowledge that person before my Father in heaven. But if anyone denies me here on earth, I will deny that person before my Father in heaven."

So, take the end of the conversation and not the whole, and base Christ upon his words.

Even if Moses didn't exist, someone wrote those scriptures a thousand years before Christ. Ok, Moses told me it wasn't him, it was Elijah. I don't care if his name was Ben, they were written and Jesus Christ taught those words.

Back to the sword statement, in which after, he says (Matthew 10:39) "If you cling to your life, you will lose it; but if you give it up for me, you will find it."

[beachguy in thongs]

I fucked that up ^ .

[Roadking]

Let's talk about Mary Magdalene....

If she was caught in the act of adultery and a group of men were about to stone her to death, where was the man she was caught with? why wasn't he about to be stoned?

[beachguy in thongs]

Have you mentioned that this book of Matthew's purpose is to show that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah the Jews had waited for since the Old Testament times?

Also, did you mention that your "sword" quote was only a pep talk to the Apostles?

[beachguy in thongs]

Hmm, I know nothing of Mary Magdalene, besides Full of Grace.

[ermitonto]

Have you mentioned that this book of Matthew's purpose is to show that Jesus is the Son of God and the Messiah the Jews had waited for since the Old Testament times?
No, and I don't see how that changes anything.


Also, did you mention that your "sword" quote was only a pep talk to the Apostles?
So? If Jesus told them not to think he is to send peace on Earth, then Jesus either (a) lied, breaking one of the Ten Commandments, or (b) came not to send peace on Earth. And besides, what does it matter if we know he murders innocent children and tells people to commit genocide? (he is the same thing as God, right? Or is he a different entity, or what...I've never gotten a straightforward answer to that). And what kind of a peaceful creature tells everybody to either believe in him or be tortured for all eternity? That's a pretty harsh threat from somebody who supposedly preaches peace and tolerance.

No matter how you look at it, someone who sends Jeffrey Dahmer to Heaven and Gandhi to Hell, who eternally tortures anyone who refuses to blindly believe things with no proof, who murders innocent children for the crimes of their parents and for making fun of bald people, who condones slavery, and who orders genocide to be carried out, has to be the cruelest being in the universe. How can such a being ever be worthy of worship? I'd rather worship Hitler.

[beachguy in thongs]

I don't believe in Hell, Ermontito.

Jesus said that's what people do. Brothers kill Brothers, Children disobey parents, and Spouses sleep around. He was telling them not to trust anyone, for they will be killed.

The prophecies of a Messiah caused an entire religion to want to get rid of one guy. If they were wrong about that "one guy" being Jesus Christ, than that's as bad as our nation executing the wrong guy for Ted Bundy's killings. The guy who really did it, is still on the loose. So is the real Jesus Christ. In fact, the real Jesus Christ is the guy who busted out the other Jesus Christ when he was entombed... :stoned:

[beachguy in thongs]

In my view, we all feel the Holy Spirit when we're stoned. Jesus kept talking about all this knowledge that will come upon you, when you receive the Holy Spirit, and now we're finding out about pot's brain (cell)-multiplication talents. You'll talk to everyone, about anything stoned.

[robert42]

Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind.
-Albert Einstein


did Albert Einstein really say lame?

[Whos Carl]

nope

[F L E S H]

If you bury your head in it, even to make a joke about the people who wrote it, after Jesus Christ was murdered, your not gonna be wasting your timing destroying blind faith. The Bible is reference material. Give me another book that's 3400 to 1920 years old, and I swear that I'll quote it.
I don't quite understand what you mean, but there are plenty of BETTER books that are just as old, if not older, that contain more wisdom in one passage than in the entire Bible. The Odyssey, the Illiad, the Aenead, the Epic of Gilgamesh, the Dao de Jing, the writings of Confucius, Plato, Aristotle, Euripides, Socrates....

Man I barely scratched the surface with all of those.

BTW, Confucius said, "He who goes to bed with an itchy bum wakes up with smelly fingers."

[beachguy in thongs]

BTW, Confucius said, "He who goes to bed with an itchy bum wakes up with smelly fingers."

I, totally, have to disagree with Confucius on that one.

My ass is cleaner than a whistle, and I had a bug bite.

[beachguy in thongs]

So what's the story with Jesus then? Is he the only man in history to say he's the Son of God?

[Roadking]

Hmm, I know nothing of Mary Magdalene, besides Full of Grace.


that's a different Mary...

[beachguy in thongs]

All women are born full of Grace.

[Reefer Rogue]

Jesus was not God, he was one with God.

[beachguy in thongs]

Who said he was God? He didn't.

[Reefer Rogue]

Some people think he was/Is.

[beachguy in thongs]

Is that what some people consider Christians? As those who worship Christ as God?

Do some people view Christians different than Catholics?

[Reefer Rogue]

Obviously they do or else there wouldn't be war in Ireland over the same religion!

[Bouldercreekbud]

Let's talk about Mary Magdalene....

If she was caught in the act of adultery and a group of men were about to stone her to death, where was the man she was caught with? why wasn't he about to be stoned?


Let he who is with out sin cast the first stone...

They all left, and so did that style of religion, however there are some who want to keep it around. This was the first time there were rules about how to treat woman, and it blew the menâ??s minds how well Jesus treated woman and exalted them in high places. This Mary was just that type. One who was picked up out of the muck and lifted high. Great thing to think about.

Folks, dont be IGNORANT! and dont be so easily led by people calling a good thing a Lie.


By the way.. I see some here found the on_line source of twisted anti logic, there are many and I've seen all they have to offer. Only Fear.

[ermitonto]

I still haven't seen your rationalization for worshipping a genocidal child-killer...

[beachguy in thongs]

Jesus was not a child-killer. You can take his words, but you can't show me anything by saying this stuff. If you quoted me, like people quoted Jesus, you'd say that I was a pedophile because once I said, "if that girl was older, she'd be hot".

[ermitonto]

No, not Jesus. His dad, who killed all the first-born children in Egypt because of something their parents did, and then killed forty-two more kids for making fun of a bald guy, and ordered his chosen people to commit genocide.

[beachguy in thongs]

I still haven't seen your rationalization for worshipping a genocidal child-killer...

And...huh?

Worship?

Hmmm, I never thought about worshipping anyone other than Jimi Hendrix.

[beachguy in thongs]

And then Jesus' Dad (God) killed the Dinosaurs, too. Such a shame.

[beachguy in thongs]

Oh, are you talking about the President?

[ermitonto]

You don't worship God? Then surely you must at least believe in him and have some sort of respect for him. And paying even the tiniest bit of respect to a genocidal child-killer is, in my opinion, wrong.

[ermitonto]

And then Jesus' Dad (God) killed the Dinosaurs, too. Such a shame.
First of all, the Bible says nothing about dinosaurs. It claims to hold the entire history of the world from the beginning but somehow it left out the dinosaurs bit.

Secondly, how can you even compare killing children and committing genocide to killing dinosaurs? If I killed some reptiles, most people wouldn't have too much of a problem with that, but if I killed a whole bunch of kids I'd probably be jailed for life if not executed. Even if we assume that killing dinosaurs is morally identical to killing innocent people, that just means that killing off the dinosaurs is just as hateful a thing to do.

[beachguy in thongs]

Ermontinto- You don't know who God is.

Jesus Christ was the son of God and people still can't get his words straight, because he was the son of Pot.

[beachguy in thongs]

First of all, the Bible says nothing about dinosaurs. It claims to hold the entire history of the world from the beginning but somehow it left out the dinosaurs bit.

Secondly, how can you even compare killing children and committing genocide to killing dinosaurs? If I killed some reptiles, most people wouldn't have too much of a problem with that, but if I killed a whole bunch of kids I'd probably be jailed for life if not executed. Even if we assume that killing dinosaurs is morally identical to killing innocent people, that just means that killing off the dinosaurs is just as hateful a thing to do.

There you go again, looking into the Old Testament.

I don't believe in the apple of Sin, it was a parable, Moses wrote it and intended on his children learning it. His birds and bees might have been apples and snakes.

Oh, and because the Dinosaurs had children, too.

[ermitonto]

I do know who God is. God is a fictional character in an ancient book. In the book you're quoting which describes the stuff he does, he kills children and orders genocide. That, in my opinion, makes him a very cruel and heinous fictional character.

[beachguy in thongs]

Explain our origin.

[ermitonto]

If the Old Testament wasn't meant to be taken seriously because it's a bunch of fiction, why is there no disclaimer that says "don't take this stuff seriously because it's a bunch of fiction"?

[beachguy in thongs]

The Big Bang occurred. Who's putting these thoughts into your head?
How are you coming up with the freewill to think these things, as well as eat you're breakfast, and remember your girlfriend?
Why are thoughts created?

[ermitonto]

Explain our origin.
I don't pretend to have all the answers on how the universe and life originated. Nobody does, and certainly the writers of some ancient book of lies didn't.

[esrabalamir]

Genesis Chapter 1 Verse 11

And God said “Let the earth bring forth grass, the cannabis yielding seed,”

Genesis Chapter 1 verse 29.

And God said behold, I have given you every cannabis bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed: to you shall it be for meat.

[beachguy in thongs]

Why is it that everything, in the Universe, works out mathematically? Why doesn't Haley's comet run into us on schedule? Why is every place in sight of our planet, barren?

[ermitonto]

The Big Bang occurred. Who's putting these thoughts into your head?
How are you coming up with the freewill to think these things, as well as eat you're breakfast, and remember your girlfriend?
Why are thoughts created?
Thoughts are created because it is evolutionarily beneficial for us to have thoughts. Nobody is "putting" these thoughts into my head. My sensory organs do that.

[ermitonto]

Why is it that everything, in the Universe, works out mathematically? Why doesn't Haley's comet run into us on schedule? Why is every place in sight of our planet, barren?
I don't have the answers to those questions, and neither does the Bible. The Bible just says the universe was created by some big invisible murderer, and can't explain where that thing came from. That doesn't answer the question; it just brings up a plethora of new questions.

[beachguy in thongs]

E-tito, who created thoughts of evolution, or who created evolution? Your mother and father gave you those sensory organs, so they are your God.

[beachguy in thongs]

I have a question, have you read the Bible, every word? Cause I sure the Hell haven't.

[ermitonto]

E-tito, who created thoughts of evolution, or who created evolution? Your mother and father gave you those sensory organs, so they are your God.
Organisms which have mutations that help them survive in their environment live longer and are more successful at passing on their genes. Nobody "created" that phenomenon; it just happens. The Bible certainly doesn't mention my parents anywhere, so I don't see why I should consider them as a God and not just as my parents. I love them but I don't worship them as omniscient, omnipotent creators of the universe.

[ermitonto]

I have a question, have you read the Bible, every word? Cause I sure the Hell haven't.
No. But if you're going to believe in it so fervently, you probably should.

[beachguy in thongs]

What I'm saying is that they created your Universe, you can't deny it. But, it's something you can hold against them. But they're Our immediate Gods and we have to be accepted by them before we can attain other Gods.

Saying that Jesus was the Son of God to explain everything that happened in his lifetime, for 2000 years, must have something behind it and we can't see it, because we're the future people, the ones who God, Himself, had planned for all along. Our time's up, I think. It's time to change the World. Jimi Hendrix said the Earth flips axis every 2,000 years or so, and I believe Him. Oh, and by the way, I think God was within Jimi Hendrix.

[beachguy in thongs]

No. But if you're going to believe in it so fervently, you probably should.

All I'm doing is quoting it. Can't you tell? :stoned:

edit: sometimes I'm adding a "pot" flavor to it.

[beachguy in thongs]

I've browsed the Bible.

[ermitonto]

What I'm saying is that they created your Universe, you can't deny it. But, it's something you can hold against them. But they're Our immediate Gods and we have to be accepted by them before we can attain other Gods.
Define "God" then. This is one of the main problems I have with theists, is that they never define the word for me, and often say that the word is actually undefinable. Which, of course, makes any discussion about the idea impossible.


Saying that Jesus was the Son of God to explain everything that happened in his lifetime, for 2000 years, must have something behind it and we can't see it, because we're the future people, the ones who God, Himself, had planned for all along. Our time's up, I think. It's time to change the World. Jimi Hendrix said the Earth flips axis every 2,000 years or so, and I believe Him. Oh, and by the way, I think God was within Jimi Hendrix.
Huh? Jesus was just one of many people in his time claiming to be the messiah. I could say I'm the messiah. For example:

I'm the messiah.

That doesn't mean there's anything behind it though. Is it so wrong to ask for proof of such an outrageous claim?

[F L E S H]

So what's the story with Jesus then? Is he the only man in history to say he's the Son of God?
Almost all ancient heroes 'became' gods after their deeds earned them great renown. Herakles, Romulus, Buddha, Confucius, Lao Zi, Gilgamesh, and probably many more, they all were later considered godlike because of their superhuman deeds, whether feats of strength or great thought.

If you think Jesus is unique, you're sadly mistaken. Check up on Ancient Egyptian religion, Jesus is pretty much a combination of Osiris and Horus. Every miracle he supposedly performed was previously performed by these two, and often the wording describing the miracles are identical.

Consider this: There's a story that says that Horus raised Osiris from the dead. Legend also has it that the Hebrew people spent a long time in Egypt, therefore the Egyptian influence on their culture is certain. The Hebrew word for Osiris is Asar, and the called him El Asar, which means Lord Osiris. Therefore, according to ancient Hebrews, Horus raised a man named El Asar from the dead. Of course, during the time of Jesus, Latin was pretty much the official languange of the Empire, and El Asar soon became El-Asar-us, or Lazarus. Thus, in the Gospels, Jesus raises a man named Lazaraus from the dead.

This is only one little example out of hundreds. The Bible is not a great work of wisdom and religion, it's a rehash of older religions that are given a new facade. It's like if I write a book, and simply re-write Moby Dick in my own words... Would you call that a great book?

[ermitonto]

You might be interested in this little tidbit of information from Michael Shermer:

Jesus was not the only messiah at the time. There were lots of messiahs. In fact, there was another fellow named Apollonius of Tyana, who, in the first century, was claimed by his followers that he healed the sick, raised the dead, was able to walk through walls and buildings, that he was in fact persecuted for his religious beliefs, he was brought to trial by the local Roman courts, he was crucified and after he died he, we are told, ascended to Heaven and he came back where his followers saw him. This is not the Jesus story. This is Apollonius of Tyana. Who the heck is that?

[F L E S H]

You might be interested in this little tidbit of information from Michael Shermer:
LOL, "who the heck is that?"

His publicist wasn't very effective... at least not as much as Jesus' :pimp:

[BobBong]

Not.

[ermitonto]

More Christian family values, this time from Deuteronomy 21:18-21, which tells us very clearly what should be done about disobedient sons:

If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them:

Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place;

And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard.

And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

[Canadabis]

"And so they went out into the field and lay there" - Leviticus

[beachguy in thongs]

Define "God" then. This is one of the main problems I have with theists, is that they never define the word for me, and often say that the word is actually undefinable. Which, of course, makes any discussion about the idea impossible.


Huh? Jesus was just one of many people in his time claiming to be the messiah. I could say I'm the messiah. For example:

I'm the messiah.

That doesn't mean there's anything behind it though. Is it so wrong to ask for proof of such an outrageous claim?
Ermintoto, God started this whole sha-bang, and his plans are for every species of life on Earth, not the destruction of mankind. I'm gonna start sounding like GhoSToker, but you have to kill the chickens. He gave us Angels to live with. Even animals.

That's what intrigues me the most about Jesus Christ, is why he is the only man in History to be considered the Son of God.
My thoughts are that Jimi Hendrix was the Second Coming.

[beachguy in thongs]

Almost all ancient heroes 'became' gods after their deeds earned them great renown. Herakles, Romulus, Buddha, Confucius, Lao Zi, Gilgamesh, and probably many more, they all were later considered godlike because of their superhuman deeds, whether feats of strength or great thought.

If you think Jesus is unique, you're sadly mistaken. Check up on Ancient Egyptian religion, Jesus is pretty much a combination of Osiris and Horus. Every miracle he supposedly performed was previously performed by these two, and often the wording describing the miracles are identical.

Consider this: There's a story that says that Horus raised Osiris from the dead. Legend also has it that the Hebrew people spent a long time in Egypt, therefore the Egyptian influence on their culture is certain. The Hebrew word for Osiris is Asar, and the called him El Asar, which means Lord Osiris. Therefore, according to ancient Hebrews, Horus raised a man named El Asar from the dead. Of course, during the time of Jesus, Latin was pretty much the official languange of the Empire, and El Asar soon became El-Asar-us, or Lazarus. Thus, in the Gospels, Jesus raises a man named Lazaraus from the dead.

This is only one little example out of hundreds. The Bible is not a great work of wisdom and religion, it's a rehash of older religions that are given a new facade. It's like if I write a book, and simply re-write Moby Dick in my own words... Would you call that a great book?


Well, what about Celasse? :stoned:

[beachguy in thongs]

"We shall seek lower ground for our smoke to rise to higher ground and stone everyone else." Extravicus 12:5

[ermitonto]

Ermintoto, God started this whole sha-bang, and his plans are for every species of life on Earth, not the destruction of mankind. I'm gonna start sounding like GhoSToker, but you have to kill the chickens. He gave us Angels to live with. Even animals.
I repeat: define "God" for me. Telling me some things you think he does is not defining what he is. What is this being you're talking about? What is it made out of? Where did it come from? Where's the evidence for it?


That's what intrigues me the most about Jesus Christ, is why he is the only man in History to be considered the Son of God.
My thoughts are that Jimi Hendrix was the Second Coming.
So why did he keep his divinity a secret unlike the first time around? And isn't the Second Coming supposed to signal the end of the world or something?

[robert42]

wasnt it jesus who also said HAMMERTIME