Economy is rocking and rolling!!

[amsterdam]

I am so sick of hearing people on here talk about the "BAD" economy. Obviously they have NO clue what they are talking about, its doing great. Perhaps your not. :thumbsup:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102800434.html?sub=AR

[amsterdam]

Even the Brits have taken notice. Now please, not another word about the national economy being bad. Remember, if your to fucking lazy to get a job, or finish school so you can get a job, THATS YOUR FAULT, NOT THE GOVERNMENTS.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4385628.stm :rasta:

[onwardthroughthefog]

Be a bit careful about using the Brits as a support system. The government of Britain is what you are referring to, and it's certainly an ally of our current administration. We are linked at the hip in the war in Iraq and in the future economic directions of both counties.

One thing you might want to consider is the type of jobs being created. We seem to be losing out in terms of engineering, science, and technology, which are all important for growth. We do see a LOT of growth in manual labor jobs in construction, but many of those are being filled by non-citizens. They count in the GDP since the money is earned here. But a lot of that money goes back to Mexico and other countries to help their families there. And those jobs really aren't the types of jobs Americans see as a desirable career option, since they are manual labor low-paying jobs.

Onward!

[andruejaysin]

So, could you explain why the dow is a thousand points lower than when your boy took office? The economic policy of Hoover, the foreign policy of Johnson, the ethics of Nixon, we have a winner, worst president ever!

[amsterdam]

we were attacked on 9/11, we had a recession that began its downfall in 1999, we are fighting a global war on terror, we have had major natural disasters (wich rove didnt produce). Any questions.

Worst president ever? hahaha. get real. his approval rating is Still higher than Clintons lowest, Bush Srs. lowest Reagens lowest, and Carters lowest. Your gonna have to do better than repeating Bumper stickers you saw from the bus stop.

[onwardthroughthefog]

So, could you explain why the dow is a thousand points lower than when your boy took office? The economic policy of Hoover, the foreign policy of Johnson, the ethics of Nixon, we have a winner, worst president ever!

Was that to amsterdam? I don't have a boy. I think political parties are doing exactly what George Washington forecast.......bringing our country to it's knees. I am assuming you're directing your reply to amsterdam.

Onward!

[onwardthroughthefog]

we were attacked on 9/11, we had a recession that began its downfall in 1999, we are fighting a global war on terror, we have had major natural disasters (wich rove didnt produce). Any questions.

Worst president ever? hahaha. get real. his approval rating is Still higher than Clintons lowest, Bush Srs. lowest Reagens lowest, and Carters lowest. Your gonna have to do better than repeating Bumper stickers you saw from the bus stop.

If memory serves......which sometimes I'll admit it does not......Clinton had a 60% approval rating at the end of his fifth year. It didn't really start to decline until the sixth year when Whitewater turned to white stuff on a dress.

I don't really think "best" or "worst" can be determined by approval ratings anyway. Is your personal life and the lives of Americans better now than it was four years ago or in this case five years ago?

Onward!

[amsterdam]

For me it is, I bought a new house at 26 in Evanston Illinois and got a great job right after i finished school. Life isnt perfect for me, but it going quite well at the moment.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46832

This should clear things up.

Second terms are a bitch for any president

[onwardthroughthefog]

For me it is, I bought a new house at 26 in Evanston Illinois and got a great job right after i finished school. Life isnt perfect for me, but it going quite well at the moment.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=46832

This should clear things up.

Second terms are a bitch for any president

And that's a hard thing to measure. You're enjoying the benefits of a college degree and a bit of maturity and wisdom that comes with age.

I've found a way to enjoy life and be quite successful in administrations by both parties. One really has to be able to flow with the times and see ahead a bit, especially if you're a business owner.

And I TOTALLY agree.......second terms are a bitch for any president.

Onward!

[amsterdam]

your a good guy to talk with, you present the other side thoughtfully and reasonably. Nice to have you around.

I agree with your statement.

[onwardthroughthefog]

your a good guy to talk with, you present the other side thoughtfully and reasonably. Nice to have you around.

I agree with your statement.

Thanks. I've enjoyed it as well. Like with most people, we see some things in the same light, and some things we disagree on. I just don't get emotionally wrapped up in anything other than my own actions. We can't force politicians to do the right thing, no matter what their party is.

Funny thing......you think I represent the other side.......you'd be shocked if you knew how I have voted in my life....lol

Onward!

[amsterdam]

Fair enough.

[andruejaysin]

Was that to amsterdam? I don't have a boy. I think political parties are doing exactly what George Washington forecast.......bringing our country to it's knees. I am assuming you're directing your reply to amsterdam.

Onward!I was directing my responce to amsterdam, sorry for any confusion. He and I have been arguing for awhile, we will, no dought, continue. That's why I love this board.

[lemonboy]

What is this "economy" you speak of? My sources say it's just a myth.

[phareye]

i'm confused.
i can find these articles that say the economy is just ok, yet there are all these OTHER pieces that illustrate just how many hundreds of thousands of jobs have been lost.
does exxon buying up its own stock count as "increased business investment"?
does the haliburton five-year no-bid contract (which are typically given out for ONE year) to clean up the gulf count as "increased business investment"?
does my dad's eight+ month long search for work in manufacturing management in the NE count as "good jobs available"?
does a major corporation's "relocating" of its headquarters to a carribean island to avoid paying taxes to the US gov't count as "increased business investment"?

the economy IS rockin'.... if you're in the upper 5-10% income bracket.
as for the rest of the country, keep on contributing! the rich really, REALLY appreciate it.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Here's my situation. I am a married THINKER:

Two Healthy Incomes No Kids Early Retirement

I plan to retire from my current position and work part-time and/or volunteer, when I reach my mid fifties.

Just some quick advice for the young guys and gals just starting out: keep out of debt! If you can't afford to buy something outright with cash, skip it. Only use credit if you can pay it off in full anytime you want. Many relationship problems, and divorces, are caused by money problems.

[phareye]

Here's my situation. I am a married THINKER:

Two Healthy Incomes No Kids Early Retirement


so is the implication that people who marry and have kids aren't thinking? or rather, THINKING?

[Breukelen advocaat]

so is the implication that people who marry and have kids aren't thinking? or rather, THINKING?

I'm simply saying that the choice of living childfree worked out for me. Although I wasn't drawing any universal conclusions about other lifestyles, I would unequivocally say that many people that have become parents would have been better off, in various ways, if theyâ??d had less, or no, children. Of course, most parents love their kids very much â?? and are usually unwilling to consider this.

[phareye]

copy that.