Harriet Miers withdraws!!

[amsterdam]

good news!!!

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/27/D8DGCU003.html

[amsterdam]

i applaud her for doing this.

[amsterdam]

KAREN WILLIAMS PLEASE!!!!!

[bhallg2k]

You're smoking some good stuff if you think it was Miers and not the White House that pulled the plug on this. If she had 51 votes in the Senate, this wouldn't be happening, "constitutional crisis" or not.

I've thought all along that this nomination was a ploy to get an extremely conservative ideologue on the bench. If you nominate someone who's completely unqualified to serve and allow the opposition to shoot him/her down, it becomes that much harder for the opposition to then shoot down the next nominee because invariably he or she is vastly "better" because they're more qualified than the first. The comparison alone makes it harder to sway public opinion against the second nominee.

But I think the White House couldn't imagine that the opposition would come from within their own ranks. That part shocked a lot of people. And Democrats, in a rare moment, showed great intelligence in allowing conservatives to be the ones to take down Miers. By doing so, one would think that their bullet is still in the chamber, so to speak.

That's just what I think though. Yet after tomorrow, the entire game may change.

[amsterdam]

oh i agree 100% with you, and its gonna work also.

[highinspain]

I second that

[Fengzi]

"The White House said Miers had to withdraw over concerns that senators wanted documents of privileged discussions between the president and his top lawyer."

Makes you wonder what Bush was so worried about. Nothing would really surprise me anymore.

[Sinsemilla Jones]

"The White House said Miers had to withdraw over concerns that senators wanted documents of privileged discussions between the president and his top lawyer."

Makes you wonder what Bush was so worried about. Nothing would really surprise me anymore.
"(expletive deleted)" - Nixon -Bush?
:p


Those transcripts can be a bitch.
:thumbsup:


"....he (E. Howard Hunt, Watergate burglar) knows things about the...um, er...whole Bay of Pigs thing..." - Nixon's reason to Dean about why he's willing to pay Hunt a million dollars for his silence
:what:

[dirtyhippy420]

from the Washington Times

"White House senior staff are starting to ask outside people, saying, 'We're not discussing pulling out her nomination, but if we were to, do you have any advice as to how we should do it?' " a conservative Republican with ties to the White House told The Washington Times.
Full Story (http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20051021-112953-8355r.htm)

I guess someone told them that it would be best if she withdrew her nomination herself.

[Tholiak]

Thank God, being selected solely because you are a woman isnt a reason to be on supreme court.

[dirtyhippy420]

Or because you're an evangelical christian.

[amsterdam]

they are going to nominate a clear conservative judge, Luddig, or Brown or Williams.

and this one will go through, nuclear option or not. That will shift the court directly to the right for the next 20 or so years. There is even wipers in the grapevine of a third pick middle of next year.

[andruejaysin]

My guess is Alberto "speedy" Gonzales, still a crony, obviously, but one with at least mimimal quaulifications. Plus he's GW's coke dealer, catch him fiending, you can get a nomination for a twenty piece.

[eg420ne]

My guess is Alberto "speedy" Gonzales, still a crony, obviously, but one with at least mimimal quaulifications. Plus he's GW's coke dealer, catch him fiending, you can get a nomination for a twenty piece.Thats funny...I dont think Alberto ILOVETORTURE Gonzalez would have the support of the republicans just like Miers... GW has his daddys connections for his coke, Al just a middleman

[amsterdam]

Gonzales?? Not a chance in hell.

It will be a conservative like Janice Rogers Brown, a black women, or maybe Michael Luddig

[onwardthroughthefog]

One thing you may be overlooking is that a lot of potentially good nominees may not WANT to go through the grief of the process. I have already heard that two or three prominant people mentioned publicly have said they would not want to be included on the list of prospective nominees because they know this nomination may be the most partisan war of politics fought in this country in many decades.

Onward!

[onwardthroughthefog]

And I agree that Gonzales would have no chance at all of getting the approval of the far right wing of the Republican party. He'd probably get more support from moderates from both parties than some possibilities, but not get any support from either extreme.

If he gets the nod, it would be a politically crippling nomination. So I don't see that at all.

Onward!

[amsterdam]

word on the street is a man named Samuel Alito.

http://air.fjc.gov/servlet/tGetInfo?jid=26

[onwardthroughthefog]

word on the street is a man named Samuel Alito.

http://air.fjc.gov/servlet/tGetInfo?jid=26

I don't get out on the "street" much...too damned many DRUG dealers.... :D

Onward!

[amsterdam]

haha, i hear ya.

i think they should go with Rogers Brown. She has a huge advantage and would get through despite being a big-time anti-abortion conservative. Wich i think is good. Abortion is barbaric and should be delegated to the states to decide. We have a thing in America called the amendment process. Abortion covered under the right to privacy,hod the constitution up to a light,get a magnifying glass,it isnt there.

[onwardthroughthefog]

haha, i hear ya.

i think they should go with Rogers Brown. She has a huge advantage and would get through despite being a big-time anti-abortion conservative. Wich i think is good. Abortion is barbaric and should be delegated to the states to decide. We have a thing in America called the amendment process. Abortion covered under the right to privacy,hod the constitution up to a light,get a magnifying glass,it isnt there.

I never understood how abortion became a right to privacy either. The only thing about it is that if you make it a states right issue, it will change with the wind, as state legislatures swing back from conservative to liberal and then back again.

In the early 60's, we had a neighbor whose daughter had to stay with "an aunt" for a few months. The truth that we all knew was that she was pregnant and got an abortion, which was illegal. But her parents were rich white conservative churchgoing Christians. So they could afford to send her out of state to have it done. Unfortunately, poor girls can't afford the same health care, and now with so many Americans without health insurance, it would really endanger girl's lives.

Please believe me on this.........outlawing abortion would not stop it. It would drive it back to the back rooms and let anyone with a clothes hanger become an instant doctor.

What should be investigated, in my opinion, is how our tax money is used to fund abortions........as well as numerous other handouts.

Onward!

[amsterdam]

the back ally thing is a total exaggeration.

I dont want abortion outlawed, it should be put through the amendment process and given back to the states. It should also be closely monitored and have alot a laws surrounding it.

Not all the states would outlaw it.

[onwardthroughthefog]

I don't think of a back alley when I refer to "illegal" abortions. I do know it was a fairly common practice in poor neighborhoods. I grew up poor, so it wasn't totally foreign to our neighborhood. But the minister's daugher...she didn't have to let her uncle or even a doctor performing it illegally at her house do that to her.

You know, there was a pretty big black market for some unscrupulous doctors back in the 50's to do undocumented abortions. I've seen and heard interviews with ladies who experienced it.

My whole complaint is that we the taxpayers end up paying for so much of the cost to support people who could and should be supporting themselves.
I'd love to see some sort of requirement of public service before anyone could receive payment from the government.

Onward!

[amsterdam]

Driving through the ghetto of Chicago i see more Cadillacs than i do on the Gold Coast.