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[hobbesandcalvin11]

just thought some one would be interested in my story i recieved 1 hit of great acid on thursday night and i wanted to trip around 3 or 330 after school on friday so i decided to take it in 5th hour on friday then in 15 min it started to kick in, and thats when i relized i made a huge mistake i got through 6th hour gym ok the visuals started during the middle of volley ball. Then 7th hour journalism came i was fucked it was at full blast i felt very uncomoftable i couldnt sit still i just sat their having a bad trip thinking i was gonna go insane but i didnt no y i thought it i guess the acid.
my hair on my arm just kept growne and growne i thought i looked so weird but needlesss to say i got through it but i dont think il ever do acid again mayby 1nc more but it was pretty intesne

[rysk8er420]

Thats funny ive actually eaten some shrooms in school before(not particularly proud of it), it was my first time and i didnt expect it would do much, but it did.

I was having a pretty hard time feeling in control and not sketchy. I felt sketchy as hell tho even tho my friends assured me i was acting pretty normal.

Overall a very sketchy tripping experience.

[Sentinel]

did shrooms at school once, wanna do acid

[Phresher than it Got]

i had the best day of my life doin x at school, kicked in in the middle of first block(we have 4 hour & 1/2 periods), lasted pretty long, in my second & 3rd period classes, the girls were just all over me messin with my and just laughin at everything i did, i gave around 20 people hugs during lunch, 3 of my teachers suspected me by all my insane pictures i was drawing on everything, one asked if i had taken any 'happy vitamins' that morning, i was just so energetic, couldnt even sit down for a while, but everyone was lovin the crazy shit i was doin, it was an awesome day

[Satovan]

I never understood how you guys can do all of that shit in school. Nothing against it, but I know if I was on acid in school, I would probably be coming down of that trip in the back of a police car.

[Hempamasta]

I tried 600mg of DXM (it was my 3rd time doing that much and I thought I could control myself.. whew was I wrong) when I went to school. It was pretty nuts, I have to say. I enjoyed myself a lot, but I didn't really get anything done at school, because I would just stare at a piece of paper and my pen and get really confused, and what the teacher was saying made no sense to me. I mostly just sat in the back and listened to music and closed my eyes.

[KoRnStaR]

I never understood how you guys can do all of that shit in school. Nothing against it, but I know if I was on acid in school, I would probably be coming down of that trip in the back of a police car.

Agreed...

I can't do any of that, before going to school, or at school..

After school though, :stoned:

[Bwueh]

Word I like being able to do whatever when I'm baked so I just do it after school. But I don't really give a shit anymore so I just do what I do and if someone has a problem with it at my school I'm like :stoned: whatever man I'm BAKED and I don't give a fuck.

[acidtrip]

School should be for learning. Not taking acid.

Fuckin' twat. It's people who have no respect for drugs and misuse them that give them a bad name. Your one of those people.

[Bwueh]

^^^^^ ahahahah that dude called you a fucking twat ^^^^^^

[CocaCola]

I keep tripping and even weed out of school. but I've had a lot of trouble in school before, so that's why.

[jfoster]

well, my policy is never to plan on doing drugs in school. if sum1 offers though, i'd take it(unless it was acid). like the other day my friend had like three bottles of codeine. needless to say, we had a pretty fun day

[UserName AlphaNiner]

School should be for learning. Not taking acid.

Fuckin' twat. It's people who have no respect for drugs and misuse them that give them a bad name. Your one of those people.

Learning? Tell me, what the fuck do you learn in high school that you haven't already been taught? What makes high school important? High school is a fucking joke. Wake the fuck up, and don't be a dick just because you are actually dull enough to believe that something actually gets accomplished in high school.

And misuse of drugs? You're a chump. Maybe when you're part of our government, you can tell people when it's right and when it's wrong to use drugs....and maybe then, you still won't be taken seriously. -_-

By the way - it's politics and religion that gave drugs a bad name. Addicts and idiots are just that...addicts and idiots. Without the criminalization and demonization of drugs, do you think drugs would have a bad name simply because of idiots and addicts? - No. Alcohol still doesn't have a really bad name. :-\


Bad call on the cid in school, though. Been there, done that....Unfortunately, it's not as fun as I had thought before it. Had a friend that used to always trip at school....tripped at work...dosed before a 'special meal' or special occasion...whatever...odd dude, but very intelligent and very chill.

[nickx760]

Without the criminalization and demonization of drugs, do you think drugs would have a bad name simply because of idiots and addicts? - No. Alcohol still doesn't have a really bad name. :-\

ur soo right, if all drugs were legal then crack would be GREAT...o and meth, and heroin, yep no one will see them as bad drugs.

and alcohol?? umm have you ever heard of a little thing called alcoholics anonymous.

[acidtrip]

Learning? Tell me, what the fuck do you learn in high school that you haven't already been taught? What makes high school important? High school is a fucking joke. Wake the fuck up, and don't be a dick just because you are actually dull enough to believe that something actually gets accomplished in high school.

LOL, are you fucking stupid, if we didn't learn anything in high school do you really think we'd go? I know I certainly learnt loads when I was there, maybe your just a bit stupid or something, eh?

What do you think would have happened if the stupid fuck was caught? I can imagine the newspaper headlines "LSD is now infiltrating our schools, ETC"

What annoys me even more is the fact that you people take your education for granted, theres kids in Africa who would do ANYTHING for a good education, and you just take it for granted.

I think you have a problem if you think it's ok to get fucked in school. Prick.

[KoRnStaR]

Learning? Tell me, what the fuck do you learn in high school that you haven't already been taught? What makes high school important? High school is a fucking joke. Wake the fuck up, and don't be a dick just because you are actually dull enough to believe that something actually gets accomplished in high school.

With this kind of attitude, I bet you're on top of your grades, you book worm you.

Not that I'm the model citizen, but hey, at least I've grauated. Start college in January.

[UserName AlphaNiner]

I don't know why I bother with people who are obviously incapable of proper cognitive functioning...but I will, just because I like rambling.


ur soo right, if all drugs were legal then crack would be GREAT...o and meth, and heroin, yep no one will see them as bad drugs.

and alcohol?? umm have you ever heard of a little thing called alcoholics anonymous.

Drugs are neither good or bad. People wouldn't have a bad opinion on them if they weren't told to have a bad opinion on them. Alcohol is still socially acceptable, yes, people are stupid with it, but it still doesn't get a bad opinion formed about it because of those people...the people get a bad rep, because they are idiots. I mean, come on...if heroin was being pushed in our faces during every commercial break, there wouldn't be a negative majority opinion on it either.



LOL, are you fucking stupid, if we didn't learn anything in high school do you really think we'd go? I know I certainly learnt loads when I was there, maybe your just a bit stupid or something, eh?

What do you think would have happened if the stupid fuck was caught? I can imagine the newspaper headlines "LSD is now infiltrating our schools, ETC"

What annoys me even more is the fact that you people take your education for granted, theres kids in Africa who would do ANYTHING for a good education, and you just take it for granted.

I think you have a problem if you think it's ok to get fucked in school. Prick.

There are so many things wrong with this, I don't even know where to begin.

1) It is my right as a human being to consume whatever I want to, whenever I want to so long as I do not hurt another living soul while on this planet. Who are you to judge someone for their drug use?

2) The education in the states is HARDLY "good" compared to the majority of the world. In fact, we're one of the lowest rated. The country as a whole takes it's education for granted, and we're stuck with their sub-par lesson plans unless we can afford to drop THOUSANDS of dollars on a private school.

And what does Africa have to do with anything? They don't need education, they need food. What are they going to do with an education? Go out there and make something of themselves? Become a bio-engineer? Get real.

3) If he would have gotten caught, it wouldn't have done shit. He would have gotten in trouble. That's all. Even if there was a story printed in the local newspaper, it would be mostly constructed of lies and it would just promote ignorance about the drug. What's fucking new about that? It happens every day, even with other drugs. Even with other drugs that are said to have numerous positive effects, they still demonize them. It's no one's fault but the people in charge.

4) High school is for people who are not prepared to pursue real education. It's just government regulated busy work. Why do people go? That's the person's choice. I dropped out my junior year and am now in my second year at a local university. I could go into my credits and grades, but I don't need to prove to anyone that I do not lack intelligence.

Who the fuck are you kidding with this? Surely, you've done a swell job fooling yourself....I wish I could completely disregard reality like that.

[UserName AlphaNiner]

With this kind of attitude, I bet you're on top of your grades, you book worm you.

Not that I'm the model citizen, but hey, at least I've grauated. Start college in January.

I got served.

I wish I were Tim Leary...that way I could expose the bullshit of our educational system and get away with it. -_-

[lateralus]

I don't know why I bother with people who are obviously incapable of proper cognitive functioning...but I will, just because I like rambling.



Drugs are neither good or bad. People wouldn't have a bad opinion on them if they weren't told to have a bad opinion on them. Alcohol is still socially acceptable, yes, people are stupid with it, but it still doesn't get a bad opinion formed about it because of those people...the people get a bad rep, because they are idiots. I mean, come on...if heroin was being pushed in our faces during every commercial break, there wouldn't be a negative majority opinion on it either.




There are so many things wrong with this, I don't even know where to begin.

1) It is my right as a human being to consume whatever I want to, whenever I want to so long as I do not hurt another living soul while on this planet. Who are you to judge someone for their drug use?

2) The education in the states is HARDLY "good" compared to the majority of the world. In fact, we're one of the lowest rated. The country as a whole takes it's education for granted, and we're stuck with their sub-par lesson plans unless we can afford to drop THOUSANDS of dollars on a private school.

And what does Africa have to do with anything? They don't need education, they need food. What are they going to do with an education? Go out there and make something of themselves? Become a bio-engineer? Get real.

3) If he would have gotten caught, it wouldn't have done shit. He would have gotten in trouble. That's all. Even if there was a story printed in the local newspaper, it would be mostly constructed of lies and it would just promote ignorance about the drug. What's fucking new about that? It happens every day, even with other drugs. Even with other drugs that are said to have numerous positive effects, they still demonize them. It's no one's fault but the people in charge.

4) High school is for people who are not prepared to pursue real education. It's just government regulated busy work. Why do people go? That's the person's choice. I dropped out my junior year and am now in my second year at a local university. I could go into my credits and grades, but I don't need to prove to anyone that I do not lack intelligence.All common sense. I don't bother attempting to discuss this sort of thing with people anymore as they've been brainwashed for so long and hard into believing all the propaganda shoved up their ass since birth. All it takes is five minutes of clear thought to realize that nearly every aspect of society is so incredibly flawed that it's almost amusing. Nobody reads between the lines. Seems like everyone just listens to what mommy and daddy told them over and over as children.

[UserName AlphaNiner]

Some people just aren't capable of thinking realistically.

I think it's ironic that I typically come across as the abuser of drugs or a failure simply because I express logical ideas. That or point out a flaw in a hostile attack against someone else. It's a shame that we have to come here and call eachother names to get our kicks. Though, I'm guilty of it too, but at least there's a reason to the rhyme. :-\

[CocaCola]

High School is useless, except it isn't. You don't learn anything, but they made it so that you have to go through all the bullshit just to get a job. That is what pisses me off. High School is completely a big waste of time but it's the time where they like to teach kids comformity, get your unbelieveable amounts of homework done and follow the rules, when all the while telling us it's education. Not really. The way things work now is, no matter wether or not you're qualify... no matter if you're a freaking genius... you still GOTTA pass school or else you're just some bum. It's fucked up.

[acidtrip]

Nevermind, UserName AlphaNiner - your talking about the American school system - I was talking about the British, both shit, but the American education system is far far worse.



1) It is my right as a human being to consume whatever I want to, whenever I want to so long as I do not hurt another living soul while on this planet. Who are you to judge someone for their drug use?

Stealing Bill Hicks quotes eh? I'm not even gonna argue with you anymore your head is so far up your mom's cunt. I've got better things to do.

Peace

[CocaCola]

â??I think it's interesting, the two drugs that are legal - alcohol and cigarettes, two drugs that do absolutely nothing for you at all - are legal, and the drugs that might open your mind up to realize how you're being fucked every day of your life, those drugs are against the law. Coincidence? See, I am glad mushrooms are against the law, 'cause I took 'em one time, and you know what happened to me? I lay in a field of green grass for four hours, going, 'My God, I love everything'. Yeah, now if that is not a hazard to our country... How are we going to justify arms dealing if we know we are all one?â?� - Bill Hicks

It's not stealing... it's "Quoting". Isn't that wierd?

[Fengzi]

High School is useless, except it isn't. You don't learn anything, but they made it so that you have to go through all the bullshit just to get a job. That is what pisses me off. High School is completely a big waste of time but it's the time where they like to teach kids comformity, get your unbelieveable amounts of homework done and follow the rules, when all the while telling us it's education. Not really. The way things work now is, no matter wether or not you're qualify... no matter if you're a freaking genius... you still GOTTA pass school or else you're just some bum. It's fucked up.

No, not really. I had a friend in school who really was a genius. Problem was school just didn't suit him too well. He was in and out of juvenile hall most of the time and finally dropped out of school for good in his junior year. But the guy really was fucking smart and taught himself a shitload about computers, networks, etc. He now makes over $120k a year as a networking expert. All without a high school diploma and while smoking weed pretty much all day long every day.

Some people are like that, they'll make it no matter what. But some people don't pass and get called a bum because they are fucking bums. I did shitty in high school and barely graduated. I was a bum. After graduating I fucked around for a few years before getting my shit together and deciding to go to college. I worked my ass off in college and finally graduated when I was 28. Now I have a pretty good job and make a decent salary. Not as much as my friend but we're not all geniuses. Anyhow, it did take a lot of work and and I deserve what I got. So fuck any lazy ass kid in high school who's bitching about the hard work he has to deal with.

The reason people who go to high school,then go on to college, and then go on to good jobs that make more money than those who don't, is because they are more qualified. They deserve the job more. Plain and simple. If I'm going to hire someone I want the person who's most qualified and 9 times out of 10 the guy with the degree is going to be more qualified that the high school drop out.

Life is about work. If you don't want to do the work don't expect to get the rewards. You think you've got it hard now, with "unbelieveable amounts of homework done and follow the rules"? High school is EASY. Try college if you want to see unbelievable amounts of homework. And follow the rules? It aint any different once you're out and working. Unless you own your own business and make the rules you still have to conform and follow the rules of the people you work for. Just because high school is over doesn't mean life suddenly becomes so easy. It never ends. 15 years from now you'll look back and wish you could go back to the good old days when everything was much less stressful. Trust me on this.

[CocaCola]

Oh, I believe you. Trust me. You're already saying what I already know... I'm saying, it shouldn't have to be that way, though. Well, IN MY OPINION.

And good for your friend. Too bad not everyone can do what he did, though. There are plenty of people I know who are smart as hell, but they don't give a shit about school. So what is gonna happen to them?

[50BagOfGreens]

im just so faded right now i dont know what to say

[Fengzi]

Oh, I believe you. Trust me. You're already saying what I already know... I'm saying, it shouldn't have to be that way, though. Well, IN MY OPINION.

And good for your friend. Too bad not everyone can do what he did, though. There are plenty of people I know who are smart as hell, but they don't give a shit about school. So what is gonna happen to them?


With any luck they'll wind up like me. Well, maybe not like me, I'm nothing special, but they can do what I did. Like I said, I did shitty in high school. I didn't give a shit. I was stoned almost every day. I did acid and shroomed in school too. I barely graduated. After a few years of shitty jobs and screwing around though I went back to a junior college and then on to a regular university where I finally got my bachelor's degree. It took a while because I was working full time while going to school but the point is that it can be done. And, I actually value those few years after high school when I screwed around. I did a lot of travelling, rockclimbing, backpacking, etc. I followed the Grateful Dead around for a while and had a generally good time. It really opened my mind but I just started to realize that there was something more and needed a change.

Oh, sorry to everyone if I sounded like an ass in my last post. That wasn't my intention. I've just come to that point in my life where I finally realize that it doesn't get any better. When I was in high school I always thought "life will be great when I get out" but it wasn't. When I was in college I always thought "life will be great when I graduate and get a good job" but it wasn't. When my wife and I were saving to buy our home I thought "life will be great when we have our own house" but it...well you get the picture. Things change and old stresses go away, but new ones come up just as quickly. Nothing comes for free.

So, my advice is live each day to it's fullest. Enjoy what you have and what you are doing today. Whatever period in your life you may be in, because if you don't enjoy today while its here you'll never get another chance.

[CocaCola]

So, my advice is live each day to it's fullest. Enjoy what you have and what you are doing today. Whatever period in your life you may be in, because if you don't enjoy today while its here you'll never get another chance.

I tell people the same thing. It's the only way to live... but you can't enjoy the time you have now while worrying about school and all that shit. But ya gotta go through it. Life never gets easy, it's true. You're right. That sucks. Oh well. [/streamofconsciousness]

[lateralus]

I've just come to that point in my life where I finally realize that it doesn't get any better. When I was in high school I always thought "life will be great when I get out" but it wasn't. When I was in college I always thought "life will be great when I graduate and get a good job" but it wasn't. When my wife and I were saving to buy our home I thought "life will be great when we have our own house" but it...well you get the picture. Things change and old stresses go away, but new ones come up just as quickly. Nothing comes for free.That is something that I've grown to think about everyday. Life is truly a rollercoaster of emotions. Things can be great for awhile, but there will be something missing, or something wrong sooner or later. It's a fact of life some people have trouble accepting.

[Doobie Snax]

^^^^^ ahahahah that dude called you a fucking twat ^^^^^^

Yeh and it was unecessary, if it makes him feel big, let it be.

[GSW389]

Learning? Tell me, what the fuck do you learn in high school that you haven't already been taught? What makes high school important? High school is a fucking joke. Wake the fuck up, and don't be a dick just because you are actually dull enough to believe that something actually gets accomplished in high school.

Possibly the single fuckin stupidest statement ever recorded in the hsitory of the internet. Lol, too bad everybody important and happy in life went to high school. And please do not give me a list of like 6 ppl who didnt that are well off or important in politics or something like that. And if you are happy with your 9 - 5 minimum wage barley making ends-meet job then thats good for you but dont try to drag everyone else down. This is why people think weed is bad... cuz stupid fucks that use it try to tell people that high school doesnt teach you anything.

[GSW389]

I don't know why I bother with people who are obviously incapable of proper cognitive functioning...but I will, just because I like rambling.



Drugs are neither good or bad. People wouldn't have a bad opinion on them if they weren't told to have a bad opinion on them. Alcohol is still socially acceptable, yes, people are stupid with it, but it still doesn't get a bad opinion formed about it because of those people...the people get a bad rep, because they are idiots. I mean, come on...if heroin was being pushed in our faces during every commercial break, there wouldn't be a negative majority opinion on it either.




There are so many things wrong with this, I don't even know where to begin.

1) It is my right as a human being to consume whatever I want to, whenever I want to so long as I do not hurt another living soul while on this planet. Who are you to judge someone for their drug use?

2) The education in the states is HARDLY "good" compared to the majority of the world. In fact, we're one of the lowest rated. The country as a whole takes it's education for granted, and we're stuck with their sub-par lesson plans unless we can afford to drop THOUSANDS of dollars on a private school.

And what does Africa have to do with anything? They don't need education, they need food. What are they going to do with an education? Go out there and make something of themselves? Become a bio-engineer? Get real.

3) If he would have gotten caught, it wouldn't have done shit. He would have gotten in trouble. That's all. Even if there was a story printed in the local newspaper, it would be mostly constructed of lies and it would just promote ignorance about the drug. What's fucking new about that? It happens every day, even with other drugs. Even with other drugs that are said to have numerous positive effects, they still demonize them. It's no one's fault but the people in charge.

4) High school is for people who are not prepared to pursue real education. It's just government regulated busy work. Why do people go? That's the person's choice. I dropped out my junior year and am now in my second year at a local university. I could go into my credits and grades, but I don't need to prove to anyone that I do not lack intelligence.

Who the fuck are you kidding with this? Surely, you've done a swell job fooling yourself....I wish I could completely disregard reality like that.

lol dude first off, heroin isnt pushed in our faces because its bad you fuckin dipshit. second of all your theory is flawed since America went through prohibition and clearly that didnt work. third there is something called drinking socially, meaning, people can enjoy alchohol without throwing up and apssing out. Third, alchohol does get a bad rap. Not sure I know too many teenagers whos parents encourage drinking at this stage and later on in there life.
ok, now onto your nonsensical, utterly irrational thoughts:

1) IDK, i wouldnt say its your right to consume other human flesh. cannibis has proved to be alright for the most part, but i dont know too many heroin addicts who enjoy there curent situation of living. Maybe we can help out other people by keeping heroin and other drugs away from them. This way they doont become miserable fucks who become menaces and mooch off of the rest of coherent society.

2)Education in the states is fine. WTF are you basing that on? statistics that students in the states are doing poorly are a reflection of an amotivational youth that think high school is worthless (you fit into that category quite nicely :D ). I for one, realize that I am getting an exceptional education since I have put forth effort in school and am able to take the classes that are offered which go beyond conventional common sense (apparently, you never went past spelling and adding). Also, there are definatly many Africans who got an education and used it to become bio-engineers and many others that are capable of doing so, but do not have the chance, but would love to have it.

3) I'm not even sure what to say to this except that if logic like this was accepted as a valid arguement, you could quite possibly be one the greatest debators in human history. Lol, he said there would be a story in the newspaper about it (which we could understand where he was coming from, as it would be an important issuse if LSD usage was infact spreading through our schools and kids were shwoing up to school fucked up) and you just said basically "no there wouldnt" where's your logic here? WTF!

4) uhhhhhhhh, again and completely irrational statement. calculus, biology, physics, phsycology, antropology, human conscience, architecture, computer science, language arts, etc.... far form "government regulated busy work" that doesnt teach anything. can open up doors for what a person wants to do with the rest of their life. I know it has for me, as well as 90% (basically everyone except people like you who, well, fail and drop out) of my peers.

let me close my statement with your own creed "Who the fuck are you kidding with this? Surely, you've done a swell job fooling yourself....I wish I could completely disregard reality like that." you should take your own advice bro.

[420ultimatesmokage]

i couldn't imagine taking acid/shrooms and going to school. i would be fucking caught for sure.

[UserName AlphaNiner]

lol dude first off, heroin isnt pushed in our faces because its bad you fuckin dipshit. second of all your theory is flawed since America went through prohibition and clearly that didnt work. third there is something called drinking socially, meaning, people can enjoy alchohol without throwing up and apssing out. Third, alchohol does get a bad rap. Not sure I know too many teenagers whos parents encourage drinking at this stage and later on in there life.
ok, now onto your nonsensical, utterly irrational thoughts:
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

Alcohol kills a lot more people than heroin. Like I said before, drugs are neither good nor bad. People can shoot heroin socially, smoke shard without throwing their lives away for it, OR PASS A BOWL AROUND A CIRCLE. There are more broken homes due to alcohol than heroin. Alcohol gets a lot of negative news, but it's still not widely considered "bad."

[QUOTE=GSW389]
1) IDK, i wouldnt say its your right to consume other human flesh. cannibis has proved to be alright for the most part, but i dont know too many heroin addicts who enjoy there curent situation of living. Maybe we can help out other people by keeping heroin and other drugs away from them. This way they doont become miserable fucks who become menaces and mooch off of the rest of coherent society.
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

"as long as I do not hurt another living soul" - I guess I wouldn't consume human flesh. Heroin addicts got themselves into that situation, but they should be allowed to get themselves into that situation. People make bad investments and lose thousands of dollars...people go backrupt and lose everything....but they have the right to do that. People throw themselves off cliffs or out of airplanes to get their thrills....come on. And you think my logic is flawed? Rofl.

[QUOTE=GSW389]
2)Education in the states is fine. WTF are you basing that on? statistics that students in the states are doing poorly are a reflection of an amotivational youth that think high school is worthless (you fit into that category quite nicely :D ). I for one, realize that I am getting an exceptional education since I have put forth effort in school and am able to take the classes that are offered which go beyond conventional common sense (apparently, you never went past spelling and adding). Also, there are definatly many Africans who got an education and used it to become bio-engineers and many others that are capable of doing so, but do not have the chance, but would love to have it.
[/QUOTE=GSW389]
Like I said, I'm in my second year at UNT and my grades are more than fine, and I did it without high school. The public education in the states is not fine. What world are you living on? Apparently, you've never seen any of Japan's or even India's curriculum. Apparently, you've never been in any low income neighborhoods. Our educational system may be boarderline decent in the OC...but, don't pretend like everything is fine.
Also, regarding Africa...They need opprotunity beyond education. If they had something to apply it to, ya, they would need it. The people to whom I am referring are in the middle of nothing with no way to get anywhere.... I don't think education is their top priority. Maybe food, water, and condoms come first. -_-

[QUOTE=GSW389]
3) I'm not even sure what to say to this except that if logic like this was accepted as a valid arguement, you could quite possibly be one the greatest debators in human history. Lol, he said there would be a story in the newspaper about it (which we could understand where he was coming from, as it would be an important issuse if LSD usage was infact spreading through our schools and kids were shwoing up to school fucked up) and you just said basically "no there wouldnt" where's your logic here? WTF!
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

My logic behind that is reality. People show up to school on drugs and get caught all of the time. Has it hurt the counter culture in the slightest? No, but the millions of dollars spent to keep us in jail, without a job, and demonized by the rest of society sure has put a dent in our scene.

[QUOTE=GSW389]
4) uhhhhhhhh, again and completely irrational statement. calculus, biology, physics, phsycology, antropology, human conscience, architecture, computer science, language arts, etc.... far form "government regulated busy work" that doesnt teach anything. can open up doors for what a person wants to do with the rest of their life. I know it has for me, as well as 90% (basically everyone except people like you who, well, fail and drop out) of my peers.
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

How many times to I need to reitterate this? High school is for people who don't know what they want to do. College is for people who do. College is also a lot less sheltered, and they delve into the subjects a lot further than high school. I didn't have psych, antropology, human conscience, or architecture offered at my school. Who are you going to blame that on? Or badass educational system or...me? It's ironic...my intelligence and educational level is being attacked simply because I dropped out, when clearly, I am not the one lacking the college education.

[QUOTE=GSW389]
let me close my statement with your own creed "Who the fuck are you kidding with this? Surely, you've done a swell job fooling yourself....I wish I could completely disregard reality like that." you should take your own advice bro.

This isn't advice. And, as stated in 'my creed,' I can't disregard reality like that.

[lateralus]

Ignorance at its peak. Yet another sheep whose government thinks for him.

[UserName AlphaNiner]

I'm glad someone else is in their right mind...It was turning into one of those "I'm not crazy, everyone else is - that's why they think I am" paradigms. 0_o

[GSW389]

Ignorance at its peak. Yet another sheep whose government thinks for him.

another moron. education was demanded by the people towards the end of the 19th century. it wasnt always there for everyone. if you follow a path to success, your not a sheep. if you follow a path to destruction, your either a moron or just a lazy shit trying to make excuses for yourself like AlphaNiner or whatever here...

i dont let the governemnt think for me, but I realize it set up public education in my best interest. where did you miss this? probably when you were dropping acid in special ed class.

[GSW389]

Originally Posted by GSW389
lol dude first off, heroin isnt pushed in our faces because its bad you fuckin dipshit. second of all your theory is flawed since America went through prohibition and clearly that didnt work. third there is something called drinking socially, meaning, people can enjoy alchohol without throwing up and apssing out. Third, alchohol does get a bad rap. Not sure I know too many teenagers whos parents encourage drinking at this stage and later on in there life.
ok, now onto your nonsensical, utterly irrational thoughts:
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

Your response: Alcohol kills a lot more people than heroin. Like I said before, drugs are neither good nor bad. People can shoot heroin socially, smoke shard without throwing their lives away for it, OR PASS A BOWL AROUND A CIRCLE. There are more broken homes due to alcohol than heroin. Alcohol gets a lot of negative news, but it's still not widely considered "bad."

My response: i dont know if alchohol kills more than heroin. show me that. plus, if it does, its because a lot more people use alchohol than heroin. and by a lot i mean millions. show me a statistic that says a larger % of alchohol users die from consumption than heroin users. thats the one that counts.

[QUOTE=GSW389]
1) IDK, i wouldnt say its your right to consume other human flesh. cannibis has proved to be alright for the most part, but i dont know too many heroin addicts who enjoy there curent situation of living. Maybe we can help out other people by keeping heroin and other drugs away from them. This way they doont become miserable fucks who become menaces and mooch off of the rest of coherent society.
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

your response: "as long as I do not hurt another living soul" - I guess I wouldn't consume human flesh. Heroin addicts got themselves into that situation, but they should be allowed to get themselves into that situation. People make bad investments and lose thousands of dollars...people go backrupt and lose everything....but they have the right to do that. People throw themselves off cliffs or out of airplanes to get their thrills....come on. And you think my logic is flawed? Rofl.

my response: its called a metaphor. people die over drugs whether the people shooting up are the ones doing the killing or not. your need for drugs fuels wars to obtain and control the distribution of them. now tell me: HOW IS THE FACT THAT PEOPLE COMMIT SUICIDE A GOOD REASON FOR HEROIN ADDICTS TO BE ABLE TO LEGALLY USE IT? or people making bad investments for that matter? heroin addicts should not be allowed to get into that situation because whether you choose to accept this or not, they affect everyone in their communities negativley.

[QUOTE=GSW389]
2)Education in the states is fine. WTF are you basing that on? statistics that students in the states are doing poorly are a reflection of an amotivational youth that think high school is worthless (you fit into that category quite nicely ). I for one, realize that I am getting an exceptional education since I have put forth effort in school and am able to take the classes that are offered which go beyond conventional common sense (apparently, you never went past spelling and adding). Also, there are definatly many Africans who got an education and used it to become bio-engineers and many others that are capable of doing so, but do not have the chance, but would love to have it.
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

your response: Like I said, I'm in my second year at UNT and my grades are more than fine, and I did it without high school. The public education in the states is not fine. What world are you living on? Apparently, you've never seen any of Japan's or even India's curriculum. Apparently, you've never been in any low income neighborhoods. Our educational system may be boarderline decent in the OC...but, don't pretend like everything is fine.
Also, regarding Africa...They need opprotunity beyond education. If they had something to apply it to, ya, they would need it. The people to whom I am referring are in the middle of nothing with no way to get anywhere.... I don't think education is their top priority. Maybe food, water, and condoms come first. -_-

my response: too bad you didnt take high school seriously or you could have gotten a better education at a much finer institution than UNT. What classes do you take anyway? Drugs are good 101 maybe? How to earn a living off minimum wage? Show me some of the things in India or Japan's curriculum that I can't learn here? My mom was a teacher in New York city for almost 30 years. She said the problem wasnt the curriculum or the funding, it was the fucking students. In Africa, they could use food, water, condoms, and education. Without it, theyll just prepetuate the cycle they are currently in.

[QUOTE=GSW389]
3) I'm not even sure what to say to this except that if logic like this was accepted as a valid arguement, you could quite possibly be one the greatest debators in human history. Lol, he said there would be a story in the newspaper about it (which we could understand where he was coming from, as it would be an important issuse if LSD usage was infact spreading through our schools and kids were shwoing up to school fucked up) and you just said basically "no there wouldnt" where's your logic here? WTF!
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

your response: My logic behind that is reality. People show up to school on drugs and get caught all of the time. Has it hurt the counter culture in the slightest? No, but the millions of dollars spent to keep us in jail, without a job, and demonized by the rest of society sure has put a dent in our scene.

no response. there is no argument here.

[QUOTE=GSW389]
4) uhhhhhhhh, again and completely irrational statement. calculus, biology, physics, phsycology, antropology, human conscience, architecture, computer science, language arts, etc.... far form "government regulated busy work" that doesnt teach anything. can open up doors for what a person wants to do with the rest of their life. I know it has for me, as well as 90% (basically everyone except people like you who, well, fail and drop out) of my peers.
[/QUOTE=GSW389]

your response: How many times to I need to reitterate this? High school is for people who don't know what they want to do. College is for people who do. College is also a lot less sheltered, and they delve into the subjects a lot further than high school. I didn't have psych, antropology, human conscience, or architecture offered at my school. Who are you going to blame that on? Or badass educational system or...me? It's ironic...my intelligence and educational level is being attacked simply because I dropped out, when clearly, I am not the one lacking the college education.

first off: you are lacking education whether you are going to college or not. second off, I said before, maybe if you didnt drop out like a scumbag, you could have gone to a University that does offer all those courses. Your second sentence kind of helps my point by the way, in the fact that people go there to learn and figure out what they want to do with there knowledge.

[QUOTE=GSW389]
let me close my statement with your own creed "Who the fuck are you kidding with this? Surely, you've done a swell job fooling yourself....I wish I could completely disregard reality like that." you should take your own advice bro.

your response: This isn't advice. And, as stated in 'my creed,' I can't disregard reality like that.

my response: I believe the advice I could take from your statement is dont disregard reality. And yah, you were disregarding reality as you posted. Why cant you jsut admit you are a worthless scumbag who failed in the early part of his life? DONT BE A FOOL, STAY IN SCHOOL

[twotoke]

i smoked a j before school one day and the girls were all over me man. face it girls like stoners period

[lateralus]

where did you miss this? probably when you were dropping acid in special ed class.Where did you miss the difference between "your" and "you're"? There and their? "Whos" (um.. ever heard of apostrophes?) and "whose"? Oh, you know what? I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it was during your remedial English days in high school while your biggest dilemma was choosing which name brand of clothing to wear. Meanwhile, I was in honors being amused by the mindlessness of the herds of conformists, the quality of our horrendous, biased educational system, and the ignorance of individuals just like you who somehow get it in their thick heads that there is anything remotely logically correct in the manner in which our system is run. I was winning essay contests and contemplating in wonder the corruption, injustice, and inconsistency of our government and society before I hit junior high. Where were you? Chasing the ice cream truck?

Look. After you decided to incorrectly dismiss me, your obvious intellectual superior, as a moron, I skimmed over your posts in this thread and easily deduced from not your opinion, but your ability to spell and form your OWN opinions, that your much revered education has done to little or nothing to better your brain. UserNameAlphaNiner and I, however, whose faith in educational sources do not lie in our WONDERFUL SCHOOL SYSTEM (sarcasm for those not able to notice), somehow managed to write posts which weren't the equivalent of a.. well.. a kid who spent special ed doing acid. Catch my drift? Ironic; wouldn't you agree?

The next time you choose to use vulgarity to offensively insult someone, especially in regards to their mental capabilities, make sure you spell correctly.

[UserName AlphaNiner]

UNT is one of the best schools in the country for music, how can you disregard the credibility of a university of which you do not even know? It does cover all of those courses, I was referring to my high school.

You believe I lack intelligence as well as education and see me as a minimum wage nothing, but from a realistic perspective, I am a sophomore in college at the age of 18. I didn't miss out on anything. I skipped 2 useless years of shit I could take in college and go way more in depth with it there.

The problem isn't funding? The problem isn't the system? It's the students? Right. Do some research. If you think I'm bullshitting, look it up. Ironically, one of the last reports I did in my high school AP english class was a free essay on the lack or misuse of funding in our schools, I've done the research. Don't challenge me to do it. I know I am right, you are the one that is uncertain.


Last- it's a person's right to put whatever they want into their body, lose however much money they want to gambling, hear the truth on the news, read whatever book, or learn about whatever they want, not without consiquence, of course. But the consiquence should not be enforced by the government. I don't even know where to begin about the war on drugs and it's spiralling effects on America and Americans. Just know this, the majority of the problems that surround drugs stem from the government's fear of anything that makes you realize how much their system sucks.

[Fengzi]

The problem with education now is that people no longer value the education itself, just the diploma. Who cares if you learn anything as long as you get that magical sheet of paper? It seems people have forgotten that what is really important is not the diploma but the knowledge that it represents.

My old girlfriend's sister is a high school teacher and I can't believe the stories she tells me. Not just about the students, but about the parents and system as well. She had a student who rarely came to class and did not pass a single test. When her parents came for a parent teacher conference the accused her of failing their daughter because she(the teacher) didn't like her. They said their daughter told them she came to all the classes and did great on the tests and if her teacher said otherwise, she was lying. They then demanded that their daughter get at least a B grade for the class. Bottom line is that they only cared that their daughters teacher was failing her, not why she was failing.

But it's not just the parents and students. My girlfriends sister was also told by the administration that she was grading too harshly. She showed me a paper written by one of her students that she had to give a B grade on and I couldn't believe it. When I was in high school (class of '87) it would have gotten an F, no doubt about it. But she had to give it a B. Why, because more students need to pass the class and get their diplomas. It's no wonder why over 30% of the students entering the California State University system need remedial math and English.

High school should prepare you to enter into college. To say that it is only "shit I could take in college " is ridiculous. If you're taking high school classes in college when will you take the college level classes?? That's like saying a house doesn't need a foundation because the carpeting on the floor is what really counts. Obviously the college courses will go into more depth. Duh? But just think how much more in depth they could go if they didn't need to cover the basics that should be covered in high school.

[lateralus]

The problem with education now is that people no longer value the education itself, just the diploma.I agree 200%. True, the diploma, or the degree might get you farther in life, but that diploma or degree doesn't necessarily (or even usually) indicate a more intelligent individual. It's just like grades. I can't believe people think that a person who gets bad grades is automatically dumb. It's ridiculous the mindset people have.

[nickx760]

thats how i feel, i wont remember half the shit they teach me, im just waiting to get that diploma so i can get the fuck out...but i like school...its fun, used to suck now its aight, but i still cant wait till im done

[CocaCola]

Finally this thread has turned around. This is good shit, lateralus and Fengzi. Nicely put.

[CocaCola]

another moron. education was demanded by the people towards the end of the 19th century. it wasnt always there for everyone. if you follow a path to success, your not a sheep. if you follow a path to destruction, your either a moron or just a lazy shit trying to make excuses for yourself like AlphaNiner or whatever here...

i dont let the governemnt think for me, but I realize it set up public education in my best interest. where did you miss this? probably when you were dropping acid in special ed class.
Education isn't what it used to be and since you can't PLAINLY see that, I'd assume that you are another pod. The public education system is in your best interest but the idiots running things can't see things for what they are... they can only see grades or 'statistics'. Teachers are the only people who know shit but we still have our retarded drone teachers... whatever... school is great but it's not about education anymore, sorry. It's about doing work.

[GSW389]

Where did you miss the difference between "your" and "you're"? There and their? "Whos" (um.. ever heard of apostrophes?) and "whose"? Oh, you know what? I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it was during your remedial English days in high school while your biggest dilemma was choosing which name brand of clothing to wear. Meanwhile, I was in honors being amused by the mindlessness of the herds of conformists, the quality of our horrendous, biased educational system, and the ignorance of individuals just like you who somehow get it in their thick heads that there is anything remotely logically correct in the manner in which our system is run. I was winning essay contests and contemplating in wonder the corruption, injustice, and inconsistency of our government and society before I hit junior high. Where were you? Chasing the ice cream truck?

Look. After you decided to incorrectly dismiss me, your obvious intellectual superior, as a moron, I skimmed over your posts in this thread and easily deduced from not your opinion, but your ability to spell and form your OWN opinions, that your much revered education has done to little or nothing to better your brain. UserNameAlphaNiner and I, however, whose faith in educational sources do not lie in our WONDERFUL SCHOOL SYSTEM (sarcasm for those not able to notice), somehow managed to write posts which weren't the equivalent of a.. well.. a kid who spent special ed doing acid. Catch my drift? Ironic; wouldn't you agree?

The next time you choose to use vulgarity to offensively insult someone, especially in regards to their mental capabilities, make sure you spell correctly.

du u reelE think dat po' spelin' on da intanet makes my Ntire aregyument nvalid? lol

P.S. yea, i did that just to piss you off