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dirtyhippy420
10-22-2005, 12:38 AM
I guess we finaly got around to finding a reason to fuck with Syria.

Bush Calls for U.N. Action Against Syria
WASHINGTON - President Bush on Friday said the U.N. should deal quickly and seriously with a report implicating Syria in the assassination of Lebanon's former prime minister, a killing that led to protests and withdrawal of Syrian troops from Lebanon after nearly 30 years as overlord.

"The report strongly suggests that the politically motivated assassination could not have taken place without Syrian involvement," Bush said.

In Damascus, Syrian leaders dismissed the findings, and the government of President Bashar Assad prepared to fight growing Western sentiment to punish it with economic sanctions.

Imad Moustapha, Syrian ambassador to the United States, said the report was baseless and the Bush administration was motivated by Syria's opposition to the war in Iraq.

He said of the report, in Washington, "It will only help fuel anti-American sentiment around the world."

The report was likely to worsen the divisions between Lebanon's pro- and anti-Syrian groups. Syria's opponents in Lebanon welcomed the findings as the long-awaited truth about the assassination and about Syrian interference in Lebanese affairs. Pro-Syrian politicians vigorously criticized the findings.

The United Nations investigative report, which Bush called "deeply disturbing," made a link between high-ranking Syrian officials and their Lebanese allies in the car bombing that killed Rafik Hariri and 20 others in February.

The findings and the reaction to them marked the latest escalation in tensions between the United States and Syria. U.S. officials have accused Damascus of harboring terrorist groups and permitting fighters to cross into Iraq to attack U.S., Iraqi and other forces there.

The report, issued Thursday to members of the U.N. Security Council, did not implicate Syrian President Assad directly, but said his government did not cooperate with the inquiry.

Bush spoke in California after helping dedicate a new pavilion at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library and Museum.

He said he had telephoned Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice earlier in the day and instructed her to call on the United Nations to convene a Security Council session "as quickly as possible to deal with this very serious matter."

Bush was not specific about what steps the international community should take. He said the United States has started talking with U.N. officials and with Arab governments about that.

"Today a serious report came out that requires the world to look at very carefully and respond accordingly," Bush said.

The United States and France are readying Security Council resolutions critical of Syria.

The Security Council, which can impose political and economic sanctions, was already scheduled to meet next Tuesday to consider the report from German prosecutor Detlev Mehlis. The U.S. mission said Friday it had no plans to call for an earlier meeting time.

Separately, the U.N. will soon receive another report on Syrian compliance with last year's U.N. demand that it quit Lebanon and allow political self-determination there.

Rice, on a trip to Tuscaloosa, Ala., said, "Accountability is going to be very important for the international community."

Rice and British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, with whom she was traveling, called on Syria to show good will toward Lebanon by establishing diplomatic relations with the country. Syria must "fully understand" that it must not intervene in Lebanon and must respect its sovereignty, Rice said at a joint news conference.

Rice gave no hint what plans the United States has for a Security Council meeting on Syria. The issue must be thoroughly debated, she said.

The council "will have no real credibility if it does not take seriously the implications of this report," Rice said.

In a similar vein, Straw said the council must show the international community that "it is standing up for justice."

Separately, the head of the State Department's Near East Bureau said Hariri was the victim of a "political crime."

"We would like to see those responsible for this crime and others in Lebanon brought to justice," Assistant Secretary of State C. David Welch said in Washington.

Although Rice has refused to rule out military action against Syria, the Bush administration stressed that it has no plans for military intervention.

"We are seeking a diplomatic solution to this problem," State Department spokesman Adam Ereli said Friday.

Washington withdrew its ambassador from Damascus immediately after Hariri's killing.

The French government, which joined with the United States to pressure Syria to withdraw its troops from Lebanon, said it also was holding consultations in the U.N. Security Council.

"The full consequences of this report must now be examined," the foreign ministry said in Paris.

At the time of Hariri's assassination, Syria had about 14,000 troops in Lebanon and essentially controlled the country along with its Lebanese government allies.

Hariri, once partially allied with Syria, had broken with Damascus and begun a political campaign to establish greater Lebanese independence.

The Mehlis report cited a witness who said Assef Shawkat, the president's brother-in-law and Syria's military intelligence chief, forced a man to tape a claim of responsibility for Hariri's killing 15 days before it occurred. The report also said Syrian Foreign Minister Farouk al-Sharaa lied in a letter to the investigating commission.

Assad's government repeated its claim of innocence in the Hariri killing and declared that the U.N. document was heavily politicized because of Syria's staunch anti-Israeli position.

Information Minister Mahdi Dakhlallah said the report lacked hard evidence and was based on witnesses "who are well known for their anti-Syria stands."

yocass
10-22-2005, 12:52 AM
well we just physically cant do it without pulling out of somewhere. Or a draft. But whether you believe it or not, the government is actually ran by faily smart people, and they know a draft wouldnt hold here. To many people would rather go to jail then serve lol.

andruejaysin
10-22-2005, 02:23 AM
Let's invade those cocksuckers, why lose one war when we can lose two?

dirtyhippy420
10-22-2005, 10:23 AM
WOOHOOO! Let's kill us some mus-lems! YEEEHAW!

Psycho4Bud
10-22-2005, 03:22 PM
Let's invade those cocksuckers, why lose one war when we can lose two?

Lose one war?? Which one you talking about? Damn dude, GIVE UP THE PISSPLANET.COM!!! :D

Tholiak
10-22-2005, 06:55 PM
Last i heard Iraq was having free elections..along with Afghanistan. Saddam is on trial for murder and no longer raping the country. I would put that in the Win column

eg420ne
10-22-2005, 07:19 PM
Yup 1996 & counting U.S. Soldiers death, billion dollar debt,... Now the soldiers r doing the raping & murdering 4 insane saddam, but we got the american way of voting in iraq, yay. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Psycho4Bud
10-22-2005, 08:36 PM
Yup 1996 & counting U.S. Soldiers death, billion dollar debt,... Now the soldiers r doing the raping & murdering 4 insane saddam, but we got the american way of voting in iraq, yay. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


AWWWWWWWW...isn't this turning out to be a bitch! The Iraqis and Afghanis are having successfull elections, etc......... Just makes a conspiracy ridden lib wanna cry!!! :D

Sinsemilla Jones
10-22-2005, 10:01 PM
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/GRO502A.html

United States officials were surprised and heartened today at the size of turnout in South Vietnam's presidential election despite a Vietcong terrorist campaign to disrupt the voting. According to reports from Saigon, 83 per cent of the 5.85 million registered voters cast their ballots yesterday. Many of them risked reprisals threatened by the Vietcong....

...A successful election has long been seen as the keystone in President Johnson's policy of encouraging the growth of constitutional processes in South Vietnam.

:rolleyes:

Euphoric
10-22-2005, 10:11 PM
AWWWWWWWW...isn't this turning out to be a bitch! The Iraqis and Afghanis are having successfull elections, etc......... Just makes a conspiracy ridden lib wanna cry!!! :D

:eek: you just completely disregarded RAPE, MURDER AND DEATH! Just skipped it!! Oh..yea..their puppet govenment really makes up for atrocities :eek:
I like to think that countries have karma. Just like people. I'm thinking it's bad karma to mess up Iraq.
For those of you who justify the war saying saddam was a bad guy..remember the Sudanese genocide happening at the same time? We didnt do anything about that or North Korea.

Psycho4Bud
10-23-2005, 04:11 PM
:eek: you just completely disregarded RAPE, MURDER AND DEATH!

No I didn't! Good reasons for taking out Saddam...GOOD JOB!! :D

Oh..yea..their puppet govenment really makes up for atrocities :eek:

They have a government elected by the people of Iraq so I guess their the Iraqi peoples puppet? Your point?

I like to think that countries have karma. Just like people. I'm thinking it's bad karma to mess up Iraq.

Saddam definately had some bad Karma!
For those of you who justify the war saying saddam was a bad guy..remember the Sudanese genocide happening at the same time?

Do a little research on the Sudanese genocide...you'll find French and German fingerprints all over that shit!

We didnt do anything about that or North Korea.

And what would you like to do with N. Korea? Big brother is just to the north...

dirtyhippy420
10-23-2005, 11:40 PM
They have a government elected by the people of Iraq so I guess their the Iraqi peoples puppet

That's like saying that the american people elect government officials.


Do a little research on the Sudanese genocide...you'll find French and German fingerprints all over that shit!

And that makes it OK?


And what would you like to do with N. Korea? Big brother is just to the north...

Are you suggesting that we do nothing? New rule: we can only help oppressed people if it will be easy, or there's something else there that would sweeten the deal.

Psycho4Bud
10-24-2005, 12:55 AM
That's like saying that the american people elect government officials.

VERY GOOD!!! :thumbsup:

And that makes it OK?

French and German support and WE are suppose to clean up the mess?

Are you suggesting that we do nothing? New rule: we can only help oppressed people if it will be easy, or there's something else there that would sweeten the deal.

So what do you suggest should happen with Korea that already hasn't been done. You surely aren't pushing for a military invasion, are you?