Letter to Kerry

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Anyone who would like to copy and send the following letter to John Kerry, is more than welcome to do so. Here is a hot link for doing just that -
http://www.johnkerry.com/contact/contact.php


Do you realize that the one issue that Ralph Nader, the Reform Party, the Green Party, the Libertarian Party, as well as other third parties have in common, is that they are all in favor of reforming this nation's marijuana laws. In fact, they are not only in favor of medical marijuana and industrial hemp, but they favor legalization for adult use.

You, on the other hand, not only refuse to pledge to end federal interference with state medical marijuana laws if elected, but you won't even take a stand for allowing our farmers to grow hemp for industrial use.

This issue could either win or lose the election for you.

Unless you at least pledge to end all federal intervention in states whose laws allow for medical marijuana or industrial hemp, I, and I'm sure many other swing voters, will not be voting for you this fall.

If you do not, and you lose this election, don't blame Nader or the Greens or the Libertarians and their supporters for having the courage of their convictions. Blame yourself and your party for having neither courage nor convictions.

-Sinse

[NowhereMan]

there ya go
let him know what the people want(you at least),and what happens if he dont do as they wish
he will lose votes for not doing the right thing
and letting it be legal is right
any effort to stop that from happening
or lack of compassion for the medical user on his part
and i will in fact Change my plans to vote for him.
and i cant see me voting for bush
for any reason
so you know who that leaves>?lol
peace

[Libertarian Toker]

Oh no man, don't do that!!! Kerry???? Please reconsider man. Kerry comes from the same mold as bushy. The reason you feel you only have two choices is because you laugh at the other choices you have. If you want compassion for the medical user, and the non-medical user as well, then you should be thinking about the Libertarians.

http://www.libertyforall.net/libertysvoice.html

Greetings! As those of you who follow politics closely may already know, Michael Badnarik has been chosen for the Libertarian Party's Presidential Candidate.

As this is the first election I have voted in, I have struggled greatly with whom to vote for. Whether to vote sincerely for the candidate I identify with the most or strategically for the one I think is most likely to beat Bush? I have even considered voting for Bush a few times, because I think his economic policies are a small step in the right direction, however unfairly administered. Then I came to my senses.


Kerry seems like a good man, but John Edwards would have been a much more viable candidate for many people (including myself). Kerry doesn't seem to know whether he is coming or going, and regardless of how much he has served our country, we need some strong leadership right now. This brings me back to my first choice: Michael Badnarik.

Michael Badnarik is a very humble, sincere man. He has a thorough knowledge of American history and especially of the Constitution and the principles it was established on. He also has an unwavering commitment to America and the Constitution. In fact, I think he is the only candidate that is competent enough in his knowledge of the Constitution to be president.

The time has come for us to ask ourselves, regardless of what party we may affiliate with, do we want to continue to elect Lincolnian Republicans and Roosevelt Democrats, neither of whom shows any real respect for the constitution, or do we want a president that realizes that the constitution limits his power more than it grants it? Whether you are a constitutionalist or not, the Constitution is the founding legal document of this country, and the binding social contract between the people and their government.

Many are saying that Michael may be able to steal enough conservative votes to undermine Bush. But Michael also respects the civil rights and liberties of the American people, the privacy of the family unit, and the separation of church and state. Hopefully liberals too will realize that Michael's commitment to the Constitution is also a commitment to the ideals of liberty and peace that they hold dear.

Vote for Michael Badnarik this fall, he greatly deserves your vote.

[HvyFuel]

Never one to miss an opportunity Toker.

peace ;)

[maryjanemama]

No, Lib, NowhereMan said he's NOT voting for Kerry now. I'm still not sure, definitely not Bush, but now that I see Kerry's views on medical marijuana I may change my mind like NowhereMan did. Some how I think John Kerry says "what everybody wants to hear" and that bugs me about him. He seems kind of kiss ass. I'll have to think about it some more...maybe Kerry will lose my vote now.

[Libertarian Toker]

I thought maybe he had not changed his plans yet. It's hard to tell now that you have me confused on it. Thanks a lot, now I have doubt in what I think I know, or knew, or something anyway. Maybe Man will clear it up some for us.

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

Never one to miss an opportunity Toker.

peace ;)

Now what kind of Libertarian would I be if I didn't try to stump a little for the cause? You can bet you will see more stumping from me in the coming months.

Toker

[maryjanemama]

Toker, I think I'm right...maybe I'm stoned but I've read it 4 times and I think he's changed his mind. Oh, I don't know. Anyway, I'll read your thread and see what a Libratarian is. I'll have questions, I'm sure...

[Libertarian Toker]

It's going to take more then a thread to understand Libertarianism. The LP is a good place to start.

Libertarian Party home page
http://www.lp.org/

Here's a few more Libertarian minded sites.

Liberty for all
http://www.libertyforall.net/news.html

Cato
http://www.cato.org/

[NowhereMan]

It's going to take more then a thread to understand Libertarianism. The LP is a good place to start.

Libertarian Party home page
http://www.lp.org/

Here's a few more Libertarian minded sites.

Liberty for all
http://www.libertyforall.net/news.html

Cato
http://www.cato.org/



i think ill call them and ask,,,


exactly what is his view on weed.



Contact National Headquarters
John Kerry for President, Inc.
P.O. Box 34640
Washington, DC 20043
202-712-3000
202-712-3001 (fax)
617-523-2030 (TTY)

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West Virginia
602 Virginia Street East
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[Sinsemilla Jones]

The link can be used to send any message you want to Kerry, btw.

This letter was inspired by another excellent Letter to Kerry over on the Market Place Message Board -

http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thd22x116825.shtml

With some more opinions, quotes, and information on Kerry's pot positions or lack of, if you scroll on down.

Thanks for the comments, guys!

-Sinse

[Sinsemilla Jones]

As this is the first election I have voted in, I have struggled greatly with whom to vote for.

I voted Libertarian the first time I voted for President, way back in 1980. They are never a bad choice, but I lean more Green these days. However, I'd vote for a Republocrat who came out strongly for at least some substantial mj law reform.

-Sinse

[maryjanemama]

Hi, Toker, I checked out the Liberatarian homepage. I live in PA and I noticed it said that it is one of the 9 states where petitioning is currently underway to get the Lib Party on the ballot. I was confused because it also said that currently, 67 Libs hold public office in PA. Does that mean that the Lib party is not on the ballot yet for Presidential office? But on the ballot for state government? I honestly have never heard of Michael Badnarik until today. Isn't voting for him a little dangerous? Considering that it will take my vote away from Kerry and possibly giving Bush the lead? Lay it on me, Toker.:)

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Nader would be President.

[HvyFuel]

Gore would be president.

peace :)

[nancyrenee]

It's a sad fact but if you vote for any party member other than *dem* or *repub* you are wasting your vote. I don't like it but it's the truth. The majority of this country consists of the "moral majority" which we all know is mostly made up of republicans. Then you have the other big chunk that's made up of free thinking old school hippies, gays and lesbians, and then the minorities. And most of these are Democrats. I don't like kerry or bush and I'm at a loss this year trying to decide who to vote for. But people tend to vote for whatever party they belong. No matter if the candidate is a skum bag. Who knows if that will change. Maybe if more people registered independant or libertarian. But the sad reality is that they don't. You have to realistically look at the the candidate that the american media is putting out there. In this case it's kerry and then forget the rest at this point. And decide somehow which one between kerry and bush is less ignorant. I'm stumped there. As for marijuana reform I know we can all hope that one day it's legal. But it will NEVER be legal. Simply because the system makes too much money from drug arrests each year. Then if it were legal it would be taxed. And you wouldn't be allowed to grow it. There would still be a fine for growing. Marijuana reform is not a big issue this year. I'm more worried about our economy and what someone is going to do with the war. I hate to see non violent drug offenders going to jail and it sickens me that I have to hide from the law to smoke weed. But it's been that way forever. No candidate that is running in the number one slot for the presidents place is going to try to change drug policy. It will cost them too many votes. And they know that. The other parties do it to take votes from the number one running mate. It's a system. They all know how it works. But I don't think any of them care about drug policy reform.

[maryjanemama]

Nader would be President.
I think the word if is too big a word. It would mean gambling my vote. I know if it were my money I wouldn't bet it on Nader...not yet, anyway. I'm still undecided. I was all for Kerry a month ago, but I am considering Nader now, and absolutely not Bush.

[nancyrenee]

Nader doesn't have a chance to win. I would have loved for Nader to be the number one running mate against the president. But now it's just up to kerry or bush.

[Sinsemilla Jones]

Slavery ended.
Women won the right to vote.
The Berlin Wall came down.

Only a few years before each of these events,
a majority of folks probably thought it would never happen.

If George Washington had ever been asked if the Indian Hemp he so prized would ever be illegal, I'm sure he would have said it would never happen.

It hasn't been illegal forever.
Blacks and women were property for a lot longer.
But abolitionists and suffragettes didn't give up.

Marijuana prohibition in the U.S. is like communism in China -
It's the last stand and it's dug in good,
but the trend is against it, and eventually it will fall.

-Sinse

[maryjanemama]

Yes, Sense, you're right...I am registered as Independent...I guess way back when I registered to vote I did that for a reason, and you just reminded me of why. OK, I'll check out more about Nader.

[nancyrenee]

You have people in all parties saying things like " I have smoked marijuana and I don't think it's a big deal". Or things like "I know marijuana is great for medicinal purposes". But then you have those same people when asked if they are in favor of legalization saying things like "No I don't think it should be legal but I don't think it should be considered a huge crime." So I don't see marijuana becomming legal ever. Atleast not in the next 50 years. So that will give enough time for the younger generations that aren't so uptight to get into congress and become leaders. That may be when things start to change in congress.

[NowhereMan]

Slavery ended.
Women won the right to vote.
The Berlin Wall came down.

Only a few years before each of these events,
a majority of folks probably thought it would never happen.

If George Washington had ever been asked if the Indian Hemp he so prized would ever be illegal, I'm sure he would have said it would never happen.

It hasn't been illegal forever.
Blacks and women were property for a lot longer.
But abolitionists and suffragettes didn't give up.

Marijuana prohibition in the U.S. is like communism in China -
It's the last stand and it's dug in good,
but the trend is against it, and eventually it will fall.

-Sinse




well said since

[nancyrenee]

If George Washington had ever been asked if the Indian Hemp he so prized would ever be illegal, I'm sure he would have said it would never happen.

The word marijuana came from mexico. Is it seriously indian hemp? Because I heard that the first documented references to marijuana came from around Asia and Mexico.

[HvyFuel]

Sorry but I must follow Tokers lead ;)

People can read a little about hemp here..
http://www.cannabis-assembly-mcr.tk/ (the servers a little slow sometimes, be patient)

peace :)

[Libertarian Toker]

Hi, Toker, I checked out the Liberatarian homepage. I live in PA and I noticed it said that it is one of the 9 states where petitioning is currently underway to get the Lib Party on the ballot. I was confused because it also said that currently, 67 Libs hold public office in PA. Does that mean that the Lib party is not on the ballot yet for Presidential office? But on the ballot for state government? I honestly have never heard of Michael Badnarik until today. Isn't voting for him a little dangerous? Considering that it will take my vote away from Kerry and possibly giving Bush the lead? Lay it on me, Toker.:)

Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil. If you vote for someone you don't agree with, the message your sending is that you do agree with them. That's not a good thing to do in my opinion. A lot of people think their vote only counts if they vote for one of the two party's. That's not true. Wasting your vote is voting for someone you really don't want to lead this country.

The LP is not on the ballot in every state, yet. Ballot access issues are issues the LP is very concerned about. The two major partys fight to make it as hard as possible for any other party to gain accress. To me the lower positions need to have more Libertarian minded people elected into those positions. Senetors, congressmen, state lawmakers, judges and so on are as importent, or more importent then the prez. Find your states LP, and see who is running near you, and see if you like them. Better yet, here ya go!

http://www.lppa.org/

The fact that your even intrested at all puts you quite a few steps ahead of the sheeple that believe they only have two choices or their wasting their vote. I hope you will take the time to investigate Libertarianism, and the LP further. You may not see Badnarik as a viable choice for prez, but you may find others localy that you do want to vote for.

Well, I gotta head to the fireworks show. The kids are going crazy. Actualy it's me going crazy trying to keep them occupied until we go. Writing this has pretty much been my only real break today. On top of all the goings on around here, I've been hanging pretty hard all day. I guess ya gotta pay if ya wanna play.

Toker

[Libertarian Toker]

I voted Libertarian the first time I voted for President, way back in 1980. They are never a bad choice, but I lean more Green these days. However, I'd vote for a Republocrat who came out strongly for at least some substantial mj law reform.

-Sinse

I can't base my vote on MJ positions alone. I tend to look a little deeper then that. Don't get me wrong, I do take that into consideration. The Green Party is a wee bit socialist for me. I don't care to much for their tax the weed plan either. Another tax stamp for weed is not exactly my idea of a good plan. There are quite a few problems for me with the greens. Another is their plan to turn over control of the top 500 corps in the US to the public. Or in other words let the government take control of the operation of said coporations. What do you get when you merge corprate's and government? You can get facism, or communism. In the greens case it is more communist or socialist. They want the government to control the means of production. I think that a lot of people don't really know what they support by supporting the that.

This is from their platform;

"Reassert the public's right as owners of the electromagnetic spectrum used as broadcast airwaves to regulate their use in the public interest."

Notice if you will how much they tend to use the "public intrest" ploy. It's never said that the public will not have any control, but that is what it would amount to if they gave all control of the media over to the government. Personaly, I don't think the government taking a firm control of the media is a good idea.

Then there is the progressive taxation, or redistrabution of wealth. You could even call it stealing from the rich to give to the poor. A noble idea, but it's flawed to the core if your trying for equlity and Freedom. And that brings us to their "End Institutionalized Racism" by instituting more racism in government. The anti-discrimination, and affirmative action laws, programs, and enforcement reparations for African Americans, are racism. A country that is supposed to treat all the people equaly should not treat them differently and call it equal. Biased racism laws that only get inforced for one group, is not equality, and neither are progressive taxes. I could go on and on about the greens, but I think I'll quit picking on them for now.

Here is their platform;
http://www.greenparty.org/Platform.html

Synopsis of The Communist Manifesto
http://www.indepthinfo.com/communist-manifesto/synopsis.shtml

What the hell, here is the The Communist Manifesto itself

Bourgeois and Proletarians
http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Archive/1848-CM/cm1.txt

II -- PROLETARIANS AND COMMUNISTS
http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Archive/1848-CM/cm2.txt

III -- SOCIALIST AND COMMUNIST LITERATURE
http://csf.colorado.edu/psn/marx/Archive/1848-CM/cm3.txt

Demonrats are not much different then the greens in their lust to create a socialist country out of the US. Keep in mind Hitler was a socialist, and we all know how the attempt in Russia turned out. We also have North Korea to look at. China, and Cuba too. There are others also, and they are all the same. Screwed!

Toker