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Starchild
10-19-2005, 03:46 PM
My little babies turned yellow on the underneath leaves.One of the other plants has a hint of yelow on the tip.The lights that are used are fluorescent plant lights and a super bulb ballast system.We were told for the first six months of plant life to leave the lights on 24/7.We did lightly fertilize a few days ago.Perhaps too much water?
Thanks in advance..
Starchild
10-19-2005, 11:42 PM
I have noticed many viwing this item but not responding.Please spread the love and give some guidance..
Blessings
Star
sMOkeY bOB
10-21-2005, 04:10 AM
jus keep a good eye on ur babies, theyll be fine jus do wat you think is right im sure ull work it out, experience is knowledge
LOC NAR1958
10-21-2005, 11:48 AM
Six months on 24/7. How big you going to grow that Xmas tree. When do you plan on flowering ? I'm not sure of the problem, yellow under leaves and on tips. A picture is worth a thousand words and will get a great amout of help. when we can see it so much easier. Six months of veg and I'd have a 12 foot tree. Also what type soil and nutes will help.
Starchild
10-21-2005, 02:07 PM
Thank you everyone.Worm casings were used as well as organic soil.I was told 24/7 for the first six months.What is a better time time table?Is it also two late to change the amount of light without causing damage?Is 12/12 a good time table?
Thanks for the insight..
Starchild
10-21-2005, 02:19 PM
Also do I need to have stakes in my plants?
Hi Tech Hydro
10-21-2005, 03:32 PM
The recommended light cycle varies, but I perfer to use an 18 on 6 off schedule. Some people think that the "rest" that occurs during the off cycle is important to the health of the plant, but that's just hearsay. I've always har good luck with the above schedule. I don't think you should need stakes if you put a fan on your plants. That not only strengthens the stalks and dissipates the heat, but provides a good supply of fresh air. Post some pics when you can so we can see whats going on.
Starchild
10-21-2005, 04:54 PM
Thanks Hi Tech!My babies are 18 days old today and are about 5 1/2 inches tall.I think I may have over watered in the beginning because now the bottom leaves are almost free of yellow.I am only planning on watering when the plants are really dry.Will any damage happen if I now switch from 24 hours on to 18/6?
Peace and Love
LOC NAR1958
10-22-2005, 12:50 AM
It won't hurt. It may start flowering. How much light did you say you have ? How much space do you have ?
Starchild
10-22-2005, 02:51 AM
A 15 by 15 foot room.Great ventilation and constant fresh air.The room has been about a constant 75 to 80 degrees.I just picked up a digital camera so pictures will come..
Thanks for all the help..
Skunk101
10-23-2005, 01:34 AM
Starchild, the entire process takes about four months tops. I quit growing a while back (don't ask why) but I grew the most beautiful plants this way:
Two months of 24/7 blue light (6400k) using really good potting soil mixed with worm castings (they absolutely thrive in that shit - in fact, you could grow in castings only but it's a bit expensive).
Then two months on red light, 12 hours on / 12 hours off. (2700k) Depending on the variety you are growing, after two months on this cycle, your plants will be bursting with resin-filled trichomes. Also, during this period, introduce a fertilizer with a high middle number (I can't remember what the three numbers stand for - nitrogen, phosphorus and something else I think...just look for a middle number around 30, while the other two are like 15 or something. Also, about two weeks before harvest time flush the plants with plain water, because you don't want to be smokin the ferts - yuk!)
Go easy on the water through the entire process. It's very easy to overwater, but I wouldn't water more than once a week, depending on the size of the pot (when they're young and in small containers, you need to water more frequently, but as they get older, less is better.) If the pot feels light, water. If it feels heavy, leave it alone.
Also be easy with the ferts - pot likes as much as you can give it, but it likes it in small doses and it's WAY better to under-fertilize than to over-fertilize because you can burn the root system with too much fert.
Also, keep a fan on the whole time. The plants release toxins through the sun leaves and air circulation helps carry them away, plus it deters pests. (Make sure your grow space is hospital-clean! No pets, no smoke.)
After four months (maybe even a little sooner, depending again on the variety) your babies should be ready to harvest. (Get a microscope - a little hand held deal from Radio Shack - 15 to 30 $) to analyze the trichomes. When they're clear/cloudy (maybe even a few amber colored ones) the plant is probably ready. Snip off a good looking bud and dry it for a few days then sample it. If you get the effect you want, cut down the plant, trim the sun leaves and hang it upside down to dry for about 5 to 7 days, depending on your climate. If it doesn't get you "there" yet, give it a while longer, but keep a close watch on those trichomes. If you let it go too long, they can start to break down. Not good.
When the stems snap (but not so dry that they break off completely) put it all in a jar and store it for a month. I know you're probably eager to stoke up the bong and really it's okay to start smoking it now, but keep it sealed up and in the dark as much as possible because the early hits are liable to be rather hard on your throat because the plants are still full of chlorophyl (again: yuk!).
As the plant cures in the jar, the taste and aroma is going to come. (It's like putting wine in an oak barrel and letting it age.) Once a month has passed, if you've got a really good variety, that smoke is gonna slide down into your lungs like a well-lubed dick into an eager ass. (Sorry for the raunchy imagery, but I'm gay and to me that's pretty damn fine; if you're straight think of a juicy wet pussy.) Also, do your lungs a favor: the gas transfer takes place almost instantly, so holding it in your lungs is really not necessary - it just increases the amount of toxins your lungs are exposed to needlessly. A few seconds is really all you need. Take it in, then let it go. (French inhale it too, if you can: that's when you let it slip out of your mouth and then you suck it up through your nose: nasal passages are great for getting more THC into your system. Plus if you've let it cure properly, you're gonna fuckin' love the smell!!!! - It's what you've been smelling in your house for the past four months - God how it teased me!!! Shit I miss it!!)
Do this my friend and your herb will delight you for some time! (And please ignore my other posts; I'm a totally sick mother fucker with major issues, but one thing I do know how to do is how to grow herb. Unfortunately I just can't handle its effects anymore (i.e. - extreme paranoia), so I'm on the wagon - probably forever. But I grew some goddamn good shit back in the day and i just love reading this post and all about how you young kids get off on it. You guys are so lucky.)
Please pack a bowl for me and take a nice long hit. I'll enjoy it vicariously through you.
Peace.
And one more thing...never get old. It sucks. Believe me. I know. You're all in the best years of your lives and take it from an old fag fart: Smoke all the dope you can and fuck, fuck, FUCK as much as possible! Life will never be this good again, children.
Starchild
10-23-2005, 01:48 AM
I appreciate your honesty and candor.Skunk101.There are times which almost everyone I know has taken a break for whatever reason.At times perhaps just for a reality check.Sometimes in life there are other issues~I am Buddhist so please forgive my ramblings~that need to come to the surface for whatever reason.Your information has been most helpful my friend.
Be Well..
Star
Skunk101
10-24-2005, 11:54 PM
I appreciate your honesty and candor.Skunk101.There are times which almost everyone I know has taken a break for whatever reason.At times perhaps just for a reality check.Sometimes in life there are other issues~I am Buddhist so please forgive my ramblings~that need to come to the surface for whatever reason.Your information has been most helpful my friend.
Be Well..
Star
Thanks for the kind words - best of luck! :thumbsup:
Starchild
10-25-2005, 02:49 AM
Skunk,thanks..
always...
grasshopper420
10-26-2005, 02:13 PM
It won't hurt. It may start flowering. How much light did you say you have ? How much space do you have ?
it isnt gonna flower in 18 days man
grasshopper420
10-26-2005, 02:23 PM
i couldnt be more in agreement with what skunk just said hes a cannaeinstien as i too grow its a very good point he made with the fertilizer be verry carefull give small frequnt doses rather than large seldom one oh and another word of caution make sure your grow room doesnt get too humid anywhere above 78% humidity is begging for bud rot and mold hope this helps and merry toking
Starchild
10-27-2005, 02:42 AM
Thanks alot.This does help.I was almost worried about the room being too dry.
LOC NAR1958
10-27-2005, 12:20 PM
Sorry but even at 18 days if you change your light cycle from 24 hour to 18 hours of light yes they can start to flower. Most of the new highbreds can auto flower. Yes this has happened to me and hard to get them back to veg state. My statement stands. They may START to flower if light is reduced. No slams grasshopper420 but not flower in 18 days but start to flower.
Starchild
10-27-2005, 05:45 PM
So what if you start with 18/6?Then at what point~day wise~ do you need to change lightning to 12/12 or does this matter?Thanks for being patient with the weed virgin here~laughs~
LOC NAR1958
10-28-2005, 02:43 AM
You can start 12/12 at 4 or 5 nodes or later. I have been trying to grow trees. When I should start a 5 nodes and grow short but huge buds instead of 3 to 4 foot trees If you start at 18/6 keep 18/6. It's a debate on 18/6 and 24/7. I have seen very little difference in the two but stay with what you start with
Starchild
10-28-2005, 04:28 AM
Thanks alot..
Peace...
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