Rezinator
10-18-2005, 02:10 PM
I notice the new poll about minimum age people should smoke pot.
So I gather somebody running the marihemp network sites cares about the qualitiy of lives young people will have... enhanced by using cannabis... but also with a future that is good... not entirely stupified by deadened ambitions.
My feedback here is more about commercial and psychological predators whom I've been noticing lately on the grow forums, pushing their own commercial websites, and how they are getting away with cheap self promotion without paying for commercial advertising and with an apparent disregard for the qualitiy of info that can be found on Marihemp Network sites.
One such cheapster created an account on Oct 17, for the sole purpose of listing a mushroom related webstie which they say is free, but which immediately asks for donations from their secondary pages.
http://boards.cannabis.com/member.php?u=34032
http://www.psychonautical.org/
The other kind of predatory tactic is more subtle. But I think it is somethign that site administrators ought to be discouraging. Only because it degrades the quality of idea and information exchange.
In this predatory tactic a link to a poster's commercial website is entered as part of their signature. From there the predator spends much of his day chiming in on various threads with little or no solid information or worthy suggestions. His main purpose is to get free advertising.
Predator responses are usually glib or very short incomplete answers to peoples questions. But that is not the worst damage they cause. One in particular, a member named Garden Knowm, is not content with this first level of free advertising.
In his effort to get his website name posted on as many threads as possible he is also actively and deliberately making efforts to discredit other knowledgable posters, by not paying attention to whether a thread has been sufficiently satisfied with a good answer.
From my view that second part of his campaign is the most damaging to marihemp community since the effort appears to be one of making himself out to be an authority. This would be fine except it is misleading newbie people and kids to believe he is the only authority - that nobody elses posts are to be trusted - and that he is capable of contributing solid information -
BUT NOT ON MARIHEMP.COM OR CANNABIS.COM - but rather - on his website alone.
The style of this is very deceptive since it uses snobbery and phony mocked imitiation of stoner-speak to get stoners to become more attracted to his dumbed down style of information - which in the end is delivered or phrased in his posts so as NOT to encourage further participation by other knowledgable people.
He discourages better info from being posted in a couple of ways. One of which could be viewed as a kind of bullying technique where there is the threat of humiliating good posters with one of his smart assed denegrating "last-word" comments.
Examples of his bullying technique are very subtle but they are pushing for or encouraging a culture of withheld detail. Of belittling those who would provide detailed and more complete info -- again creating the impression that all knowledge leads back to him and his website.
I do not object to either the free be spamming-phishing advertsing OR the technique of discourgaging and berating good detailed posts with his faked dumbed down style.
But the combination of those two things ought to be looked at in my opinion.
Thanks
PS Please do a search for Garden Knowm and compare the quality of his posts on THIS network - to - the impression he tries to create as being knowledgable - if only we choose to go to his commercial website which is not paying for any advertising as far as I have seen.
So I gather somebody running the marihemp network sites cares about the qualitiy of lives young people will have... enhanced by using cannabis... but also with a future that is good... not entirely stupified by deadened ambitions.
My feedback here is more about commercial and psychological predators whom I've been noticing lately on the grow forums, pushing their own commercial websites, and how they are getting away with cheap self promotion without paying for commercial advertising and with an apparent disregard for the qualitiy of info that can be found on Marihemp Network sites.
One such cheapster created an account on Oct 17, for the sole purpose of listing a mushroom related webstie which they say is free, but which immediately asks for donations from their secondary pages.
http://boards.cannabis.com/member.php?u=34032
http://www.psychonautical.org/
The other kind of predatory tactic is more subtle. But I think it is somethign that site administrators ought to be discouraging. Only because it degrades the quality of idea and information exchange.
In this predatory tactic a link to a poster's commercial website is entered as part of their signature. From there the predator spends much of his day chiming in on various threads with little or no solid information or worthy suggestions. His main purpose is to get free advertising.
Predator responses are usually glib or very short incomplete answers to peoples questions. But that is not the worst damage they cause. One in particular, a member named Garden Knowm, is not content with this first level of free advertising.
In his effort to get his website name posted on as many threads as possible he is also actively and deliberately making efforts to discredit other knowledgable posters, by not paying attention to whether a thread has been sufficiently satisfied with a good answer.
From my view that second part of his campaign is the most damaging to marihemp community since the effort appears to be one of making himself out to be an authority. This would be fine except it is misleading newbie people and kids to believe he is the only authority - that nobody elses posts are to be trusted - and that he is capable of contributing solid information -
BUT NOT ON MARIHEMP.COM OR CANNABIS.COM - but rather - on his website alone.
The style of this is very deceptive since it uses snobbery and phony mocked imitiation of stoner-speak to get stoners to become more attracted to his dumbed down style of information - which in the end is delivered or phrased in his posts so as NOT to encourage further participation by other knowledgable people.
He discourages better info from being posted in a couple of ways. One of which could be viewed as a kind of bullying technique where there is the threat of humiliating good posters with one of his smart assed denegrating "last-word" comments.
Examples of his bullying technique are very subtle but they are pushing for or encouraging a culture of withheld detail. Of belittling those who would provide detailed and more complete info -- again creating the impression that all knowledge leads back to him and his website.
I do not object to either the free be spamming-phishing advertsing OR the technique of discourgaging and berating good detailed posts with his faked dumbed down style.
But the combination of those two things ought to be looked at in my opinion.
Thanks
PS Please do a search for Garden Knowm and compare the quality of his posts on THIS network - to - the impression he tries to create as being knowledgable - if only we choose to go to his commercial website which is not paying for any advertising as far as I have seen.