Bull Shit

[turtle420]

Star, THIS is why you don't stick your nose where it dosen't belong ;)



Oh come on, I took the rocks off didn't I? :D lol... And yes, you may not think yourself a fool when posting... But when it turns into an argument and someone's thread get's trashed (Which it HASN'T yet) they certainly do. That's why I hope star has the sense not to reply. This is SeedKing's thread. From now on, if anyone has a problem, please post a seperate thread titled, "Bull Shit." And MB...



AMEN :)

SK, your plants are lookin' good man, keep it up, and yeah, overwatering is easy as FUCK :o It took me a death or two before I relized this. I hope you babes grow up big and strong.. What are all of their names? Good grow, keep us updated.

Peace :D

Hey, it was Rasta's idea. I just started the thread.

So, if nobody wants to start, I think I'll pick on Garden First:

Garden, how is it that you keep on changing avatars?! Stop it already! I don't know why you changed your Clark-Kent avatar :(

Next... Marc.

Marc, hello. Why don't YOU have an avatar? When I first got to these boards, I saw the name "Marc Benson"... so I thought to my self... this guy must have a grow license or something in order to put is name there... Sooo... I did a google search on "Marc Benson" (oh don't look @ me like that! You know you did the same shit!)...

I was so stoned, that I clicked on the page of "Marc Benson" the super cop with about 50 gazillion medals... Then I though, What? WTF? A cop that grows???... then it hit me... Oh shit! LoL! Nice name Marc... now give us an avatar :D

Coming up! HarddOn,

I know you can't reply... so I can say whatever I want... How come you left us? Where the hell are you?

Next, Rasta,
Oh Rasta my friend Rasta... this Bull Shit thread was your idea... So I just hope you post here... This is the "No Peace or Pleasantries" thread... Sorry dude, you have to leave the 'peace pipe' at the entrance...

SeedKing,

I won't 'trash' you because you're doing a very similar grow to mine... I can't quite recall right now in what it is that our grows are similar, but I know we can benefit each other... *wink*

Ok, ok... that's it for now... Bye.... ;)

[Marc Benson]

"I saw the name "Marc Benson""

Like I'd post my real name. And I didn't see where it says that we have to have an avatar. I just chose to not.

[turtle420]

I know Marc... I'm just flaming you because I, just like you, chose not to get one of those avatars...

Although I've seen a couple that are pretty funny...

Peace Marc... I'm just pussy-flaming everyone here... I just hope this shit doesn't hit the fan...

[Marc Benson]

If it's done in good fun then it won't. But if people take it wrong, which notoriously happens, then watch out.

As for my name? The last name is wrong but the first name is correct. My real last name is Mark. I changed it to this so that when someone asks me my name I say Marc Mark, which I think is unique as it sounds like a hair lip dog barking. See? Everything has a purpose.

[turtle420]

If it's done in good fun then it won't. But if people take it wrong, which notoriously happens, then watch out.

True. I only intend this thread as fun... and for posting stuff when we don't want to high-jack another guy's thread.

Thanks for taking it cool...


As for my name? The last name is wrong but the first name is correct. My real last name is Mark. I changed it to this so that when someone asks me my name I say Marc Mark, which I think is unique as it sounds like a hair lip dog barking. See? Everything has a purpose.

Hair lip dog? I take it that's a small dog... My dog looks like a polar bear... No shit. I don't know what the hell went wrong with her, but she's as fat as a bear, plus she's all white; thus the polar bear dog. But she has the biggest heart in the earth... :o

[RastaKaze]

lol... I thought you were mad at someone when I saw the thread title :D how stoned were you when you came up with this idea?

[SeedKing72]

Thanks guys

[turtle420]

lol... I thought you were mad at someone when I saw the thread title :D how stoned were you when you came up with this idea?

Rasta, I call your BULL SHIT!

Please reference post #1 of this thread, it has a quote from you... Here:::


From now on, if anyone has a problem, please post a seperate thread titled, "Bull Shit."

:confused: :eek: :mad: ;) :o :p :p :D

[RastaKaze]

How dare you refer to my bull as shit! :eek: lol

[crashdamage]

OK..now IM really pissed, because I dont rate enuf to deserve a good flame, even a good natured one said in jest.... sigh....I'd flame myself, but I'm not that witty.

[Garden Knowm]

I knew you'd turn into a bully..............

I knew IT... i fucking knew it


I'M telliing

ZANDOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

ZANDOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

turtle is being mean and he made MArc or mork or whatever the fuck his name is... cry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[turtle420]

Garden, LoL!!!

I'm a good bully :) You know that!

CrashDamage, I'm looking into ways of how we may flame you... it's late right now, but I promise you, first thing in the morning, I'll have something to "bully" you about! LoL

Now, if I could only get you guys to tell me something about 'singing to my plants'. At least say; "Hey turtle! That's the dumbest idea I've ever heard!" :( C'mon!

As to Marc's name, as I said in an earlier post; I laughed so hard when Marc's name clicked!!! I mean, "Marc Benson" is like a 'super cop' or something... do a google search, I'm telling you, that guy has like 50 medals of honor and stuff. Then OUR Marc has his name, and he's a knowledge powerhouse of growing! How ironic! That was what made me laugh...

I guess my next name will be something like "M.A.D.D. founder" or something... Hmmm....

[Marc Benson]

"Then OUR Marc has his name, and he's a knowledge powerhouse of growing!"

Now that made me laugh.

[Garden Knowm]

a "FUCKING" POWR HOUSE - SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I have to tell you.. my favorite part about HD, was that he cleaned up around here..

managed the scum.... I think I see some seeping in.. nobody should be mean to first time posters..especially other first time possers.... I mean posters..

TURTLE sorry about the AV dude... BUT you assssssed for IT....

don't sleep, and keep your back to the wall!!!!!!!!!!!! and I retract my apology!

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

i love you



zandor.. please come out and play...

[turtle420]

Dear Loved Garden,

I will let you know that I've just seen your, yet more new avatar...

I will be thinking deeply about this during the day, and I hope to come up with something good. But that turtle is coming ALIVE !!!!

Yes, I know, you love me and everyone here... but you won't be able to penetrate a turtle's bullet-proof vest! Ahahhaaa!!!

Rasta, quick!, to the turtle mobile!

[turtle420]

Hey Garden!

How about my new avatar?!

LOL :D LoL :D LOL :D LoL :D LOL :D LoL :D LOL :D LoL :D

[BobBong]

I recall harddon being really rude to a number of new members over the last few months. i can recall one specific instance no more than a week ago

I for one.. don't miss him.

One thing that made me wonder about him? His cat shit advice...why you ask?

Because if he's really a "Nutritional Biologist" why would he be telling people to go digging through their cat's litter box.

.. i wonder what his professor would say if he knew his student was telling people to do go digging in cat shit.

But he did help some people out...and for that he'll be remembered.

But it's not to say you wouldn't have gotten help had he not been here.

He just liked to hear his own voice.. wether it was right or wrong.

[BILL THICK]

"Then OUR Marc has his name, and he's a knowledge powerhouse of growing!"

Now that made me laugh.
:D
LMFAO....Made you laugh? I peed my britches it made me laugh so hard :eek: ... :D (sorry Marc just couldn't resist an opportunity that open for abuse lol)

Peace
Bill

[Marc Benson]

I guess everyone just thinks I'm a freaking moron. I promise I won't post any suggestions or pertanent information anymore that I've glommed. And will only post things like "Fuck dude a had me a spliff thit was totaly fucked and then passed out! How do u grow weid! I godda no tell me quick PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME! Oh by the way I'm 14!" That way I'll fit right in.

[BobBong]

I guess everyone just thinks I'm a freaking moron. I promise I won't post any suggestions or pertanent information anymore that I've glommed. And will only post things like "Fuck dude a had me a spliff thit was totaly fucked and then passed out! How do u grow weid! I godda no tell me quick PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME! Oh by the way I'm 14!" That way I'll fit right in.

hahahahah...crap..not another one.

[turtle420]

"Fuck dude a had me a spliff thit was totaly fucked and then passed out! How do u grow weid! I godda no tell me quick PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME! Oh by the way I'm 14!"

Marc, even if you wanted to, you know you couldn't... you couldn't bear to watch as we over-nute our babies and then pour some more nutes in order to try and correct our mistakes. Sorry dude, you'll stay a teacher.

BobBong,

Wow dude! You definitely are one of the most prettiest sights I've ever seen! You're competing right up there with Garden's Clark-Kent picture!

LoL LoL :D

[Marc Benson]

HEY! I just had a sudden perception of the essential nature of my life...so....adios!

[turtle420]

Marc! Don't leave now!

My seeds just popped! http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=34726&page=1&pp=25

please don't leave Marc!!! pleaseeEeEEEE!!!

[Rezinator]

i can recall one specific instance no more than a week ago

Benson! Fall back in now!!! Now!!! Damn you and your medals.

BB. I'd actually like to read the specific instance you were alluding to.

(btwbblmnop, alluding basically means referencing.)

[BobBong]

Junior (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=33824&highlight=Junior)

This is not the only instance i'm thinking of, only the most recent.

Cut me some slack.. i do smoke daily.
I've been around long enough to see some cocky kids come around here. Harddon wasn't one of them..he just acted like one now and then

[turtle420]

Hey Garden... I see your NEW new Avatar...

Do you mind if I keep the "ALIVE" 'wanted turtle' avatar?

Hmmm... wierd question, as I've already violated your 'copyrights'... ;)

[Zandor]

I guess everyone just thinks I'm a freaking moron. I promise I won't post any suggestions or pertanent information anymore that I've glommed. And will only post things like "Fuck dude a had me a spliff thit was totaly fucked and then passed out! How do u grow weid! I godda no tell me quick PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME! Oh by the way I'm 14!" That way I'll fit right in.
You know I was only going to play with part of this quote but there is so much funny shit here I could not cut it up.

Nice gramer "How do u grow weid! I godda no tell me" roflmao, hahaha dude it's not "No" it know............hahaha


I guess everyone just thinks I'm a freaking moron.
I won't post any suggestions or pertanent information anymore that I've glommed
That's the most honest you have been in the past 500 or so posts. I hope this is a turning point for you being more honest.

Glommed - To steal. To seize; grab.
Nice to see you fess up where your so called knowledge comes from. You never fooled me.

[turtle420]

Marc,

Zandor has posted.

And I'm quite happy to see his post, not because he's "flaming" you (obviously we're all having this for laughs, nothing serious)...

Well, I'm not only happy that he posted, I'm just happy that they're not taking the "Bull Shit" thread away... I sometimes wonder how the moderators look with amazement at some of the stupid posts/threads that appear in these forums...

Marc, as to your "glommed"... dude, you dug your own grave. LOL!!!!! :eek: :D :eek: :D

[Marc Benson]

"Nice gramer "How do u grow weid! I godda no tell me" roflmao, hahaha dude it's not "No" it know............hahaha"

If you weren't such a total moron you'd realize I was writing that in jest. But your response shows who actually needs some lessons in proper grammar. It's not "dude it's not "No" it know..." it's "dude it's not "No" it's know" So get your shit together. You look even more stupid than you think you make me look.

"Glommed - To steal. To seize; grab.
Nice to see you fess up where your so called knowledge comes from. You never fooled me."

I never professed that everything I offered was from personal experience. In fact if you'd read over some of the things I suggested very often I'd tell people that this info was from something I read. I don't have the need as you do to have people think that you're some god that learned all you know from personal experience. When in reality how many things that you now know have come from things you glommed (grabbed...which is how I was using the word) on to? Most as with everyone. Doctors do it. Lawyers do it. Microbiologists do it. Everyone gloms on to things they read and uses them to their and other peoples benefits.

You really are ignorant Zandor. And you can feel special as I came back in here just to respond to you and your ignorant response.

[Rezinator]

Marc,

Have you flipped out?

I do believe Zandor was complimenting you on some very good parody there.

Holy crap! How many angles are there to H's departure?

Rasta. turtle. Help me out here willya?

We need this guy.

[turtle420]

Definitely,

Who the fuck threw the shit to the fan?

I mean, I know I started the fan @ full speed when I initiated this thread (it was Rasta's idea!), but C'mon?!!!!!

What the FUCK?!

Everybody just fucking chill out... smoke a bowl... maybe two...

[Garden Knowm]

Turtle.. your a wanker... lol

by the way, you missed out last night... we took t hat guy noosehead into the chat room and humped the SHIT outta him... I think he liked it... hahah anyway were all friends now.. I hope...

well, exceot for me and you.. cause in case you forget,












I just called you a wanker........

[turtle420]

I just called you a wanker........

I can live with that... I mean, I'm not the one that has three nipples!

Here's a zoomed version of your avatar, for everyone to see... :D

[Rezinator]

Note to Beeblebrox and Zandor.

Let the record show who it was that introduced the really inciteful aggressiveness here in this thread.

Has this guy even purchase advertising from you guys yet?

[turtle420]

RezMan,

I'm not following you... are your speaking about.... ??? I'm lost...

Garden,
Darn, I've got to hit the chats more often... It'd be great to "trash" you "live"... although, darn it, I would have liked to see how you humped the noosehead guy... he he he...

Hey Garden... I know you're resisting... Don't resist the force! POST IN MY THREAD!!! I'm a DAD! I've got 5 baby plants!

I know you know I know that you know that I hate you, but I also know that you know that I know and that you know that you love me. So please, post something... even if it's a comment like: "Hey turtle, those look like bean plants to me... I think they ripped you off... dumb monkey butt" :D

Looking forward to new flames... ;)

[Rezinator]

turtle, sorry,

didn't realize you and gnome went back door that far...

will assume my more rightful place in the goosing order

pronto.

:rolleyes:

[turtle420]

Rez,

If you're trashing Garden, then by all means, please continue. No objections from me. :D

Yeah, Garden is the guy that's starting all the "really inciteful aggressiveness" like you said...
That three nippled Clark-Kent.... sheeeshhhh.....

[turtle420]

OK..now IM really pissed, because I dont rate enuf to deserve a good flame, even a good natured one said in jest.... sigh....I'd flame myself, but I'm not that witty.

I was thinking to my self, I promised crashdamage that we where going to shit-talk him... and nobody has done nothing... Shame on you!

c'mon people, there's plenty of willing participants... just pick a partner and flame the shit out of him.

Crash,

Can I ask you about your name? Did you crash your car @ some point? Damage was done? I need some background to start kicking up dirt on you man... please, work with me, work with me... LOL

[Rezinator]

See, that's the thing... I'm really not into trashing someoen just for sport.

Garden's just doing his marketing thing on the cheap.

That's fine. But at the same time it's like he doesn't care whether he makes money from them 'cause he's acting like a dork half the time.

When he gives answers - well - he has not proven to me that he's got enough experience to answer questions from whatever somebodys budget is.

These posts he makes should be like samples of his work. To be selling vids he ought to be able to show in his answers that he understands growing from more than one perspective, set of situations, budgets, etc.

But instead he just does this mindless phishing, taking up bandwidth instead of paying for some advertising on this site at least in appreciation for all the people who gave him everything except his $2000 Sony vid cam.

And then stop actiing like he's joe grunge instead of some call center guy in India you can't even understand half the time cause English is his second language.

Has anybody actually read his so called book?

If anybody has the time, my official public challenge to Garden is at post #24 on this thread (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=34381)

In internet marketing circles the technique is known as bbbs jamming.

You put a link to your commercial site in your sig, that's innocent enough, then you sprinkle as much off color goofiness on as many threads as you can handle, without blowing your cover as somebody who cares about sharing information and helping others.

It's really pretty slick. I mean. You can't pull it off unless you got some sense of manipulation like psychology and shit. Real easy to do online mostly preying on the unsavvy or wannabee street wise beginners who come here.

We experienced guys aren't intimidated by it.
But younger or shyer people or paranoid people can be all the more turned off about daring to post questions and ideas.

That's all. Check the thread out. We'll see if he's anything more than a doubletalkin illusion.

[Rezinator]

As for you, crash.

Yeah come to think about it, who the fuck do think you are to just waltz in and post to the Bull Shit thread and then start wimperin like a little girly boy 'cause nobody trashshshed you.

Can't you go do a fuckin vid about the lives of post Seinfeld Show actors or somethin. Put some flowers in your hair. Go meet Tony Bennett for crhisakes. Hell. Go on over and get buttfucked by Gnome for all we care.

Our fuckin work here is too gall danged impotent for the likes o you to understand anwyay. I spose your one o these fucking sleazers who comes here too cheap to buy a teeshirt from each and everyone of us. Well fuck you and the avatar you rode in here on.

Then go to bed at night and pretend that this was a good excercise in civilized behaviour.

Woulja?


ssssssssssssssssp

[turtle420]

Holy shit! :eek:

I am definitely keeping out of this part of the Bull Shit thread...

As to Crash,

There, you've got more flames and trashing than you asked for... Hope you're happy. I would be if those we're directed @ me. I don't know how eloquent Rez is, but to make coherent, grammatically correct and 'structured sentences' posts, I have to think about them... Rez looks like he's writing for an IM message...

My favorite part of your trashing?



ssssssssssssssssp

Rez, after writing those S's, do your wrists hurt?

Reminds me of a game (Doom1 or Doom2, or Duke Nukem3D) which had a cheat code that read "damncarpeltunnelsyndromedamncarpeltunnelsyndromeda mncarpeltunnelsyndromedamncarpeltunnelsyndrome" but extended like 10 more times.

As to my dearly loved/hated Garden, I didn't know he made videos... :confused:

[Garden Knowm]

I don't know who crash is

Yes I have 3 nipples.

Hi rez..

If I understand your post.. which I am not claiming I do, you think that i spend all this time on the board just to peddle the dvd and I may or may not know anything about plants.. but my posts don't really say anything and just waste space... and the whole thing is a marketing ploy... and if I really stood behind my work I would give you a free video to watch so that you can review it..

i love you

is this correct? this is what you are saying?

Now that I type all this... I wonder why i need clarification? I don't NEED.

i love you

if your answer is yes... I am still a dork, who acts like a guy from pakistan, who you publicly challenge in post 24, preying on the unsavvy or wannabee street wise beginners, english is my seond language, and I am one who intimidates beginners.. etc.....

I have to stop... and ask myself, who is talking..? What is BEING talked about...

I don't know who or what joe grunge is, or what a guy from pakistan is like.. I don't know what a dork is... Much of what is BEING said just lands on .... on nothing... it lands onto an identity... An identity that I don't have so it just keeps going.. i see it pass... what is it.. I don't KNOW...

I have to stop and make space.... i have nothing for you, nor do I wish to have anything of yours..

I LOVE YOU..

What does land ON ME.. WHAT I AM.. is someone who wishes to be a part of the cannabis.com community... to interact and support the group...

I know that spider mites can get really nasty when the temp goes above 80 degrees.

I also would like to share with you.. REZ.. that... I have maybe once.. maybe once.. suggested somebody take a look at the seemorebuds dvd...MAYBE....

and I have suggested that people purchase books and other materials... none of which I am affiliated.

i love you


turtle, I know longer wish to flame you















the game has gotten out of hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

















Just kidding............. wanker

finaly............

you hear something
but don't turn around to see what it is
look inside
who is it that is making all that noise

[Garden Knowm]

As to my dearly loved/hated Garden, I didn't know he made videos... :confused:


well it is not because my marketing sucks.. its because you are f-ing blind.. turtles aren't known for their eyesight!!!!!!

LOL

[turtle420]

well it is not because my marketing sucks.. its because you are f-ing blind.. turtles aren't known for their eyesight!!!!!!

LOL

LoL... Don't think you're getting away... I'm thinking... I'm thinking...


As to this part of your post...



Much of what is BEING said just lands on .... on nothing... it lands onto an identity... An identity that I don't have so it just keeps going.. i see it pass... what is it.. I don't KNOW...

It's just, poetic...

Kent, I mean Garden, peace out dude... peace...

[as to the 3rd nipple;;; you didn't think that was going to slip the ever watchful eyes of turtle! ]

[Rezinator]

I don't know who crash is

If you loved us you would follow the threads better to find out who that was from the content of the thread, ya lazy bum. ILY.


Yes I have 3 nipples.

Purely slick brush off of turtles response to your brainless wanker comment above. If this was a thread about a real growing issue then that attitude helps nobody.


If I understand your post.. which I am not claiming I do, you think that i spend all this time on the board just to peddle the dvd

Given the quality of your answers to people on this site I think that part has to be true, you just did it, you donâ??t love us at all. You donâ??t put any effort into following other peoples understand. Youâ??re a butterfly. Quick and easy, in n out. But nothing is thorough or thoughtful or empathetic.


and I may or may not know anything about plants..

Too cute Garden. That is what I was hoping you could help us to KNOW FOR SURE about you in this thread yes. But go ahead and make everyone think I am a newb who is clueless that you are the Great and Mighty Garden Knowm. I know you have knowledge. I only challenge you to not be so stingy with it.


and the whole thing is a marketing ploy...

See. Nobody said you were dumb, Garden.


and if I really stood behind my work I would give you a free video to watch so that you can review it..

I donâ??t want the dvd for free, no. Donâ??t imply I am looking for a handout. You have deficiendies in your English grammar skills and am offering to help you to market your dvd by viewing it and writing a review to see if it would help most new growers.


i love you

spare us the razzledazzle cleverness crap for a sec okay.


is this correct? this is what you are saying?

Basically yes with the exceptions as noted.


Now that I type all this... I wonder why i need clarification? I don't NEED.

WTF? LOl. Did I friggin miss something?? No. This is true Gardenthink. You actually think you just typed something clever enough to pass as a response. Were your fingers hurting already?

Absolutely right Garden you donâ??t NEED. And note how you simply capitalize words when you are not able to find the correct English to make the point clear to people.


i love you

And then in case capitalizing NEED wasnâ??t enough, we add the now standard ILY distraction. makes him seem cool and unshaken and in control. This can actually seem like a sincere â??I love youâ?� to newbs, etc., but the dude really does not give a shit about anything but money. The ends justify the means here with the I love you ploy. Itâ??s just smoke and mirrors. And totally irrelevant to the dialogueâ??s purpose. Any dialogue.

Itâ??s like looking up at a billboard and reading I love you. Itâ??s like looking up at a billboard and reading â??Now you know!â?� Itâ??s just empty advertising hype until you back it up, Garden. But some peope are dumb enough to fall for it and that is what you are counting on... you are preying upon stoners who will think you are a god.

In the following response you have rearranged my words to make me look less politically correct. Doing this, is also a trick because:
1. Now I have to clarify your deliberate confusion of the points.
2. I get the blame of making people have to read more of this stupid argument - cause youâ??re too lazy to write complete sentences.


if your answer is yes... I am still a dork, who acts like a guy from pakistan,

I was instead suggested for the readers that your English does not give the appearance that you ever passed an English course in either the US or Great Britain. I did not say that you â??actâ?� like a Pakistani. If I did I meant that you write like someone from Pakistan might write if the learned English in Asia as a second language.

In which case I know from experience that people of asian and middle eastern nations do not write very comprehensive English when they are tasked with writing technical information. Your book would be a ripoff if it was true. Do you give a money back satisfaction guarantee? Most likely not.



preying on the unsavvy or wannabee street wise beginners, english is my seond language, and I am one who intimidates beginners.. etc.....


who you publicly challenge in post 24,

Yes. But lets not leave out the thread now there, slick. http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=34381


preying on the unsavvy or wannabee street wise beginners, english is my seond language, and I am one who intimidates beginners.. etc.....



I have to stop... and ask myself, who is talking..? What is BEING talked about...

Uhm you, I thought, but again with the razzledazzle fake confusion here - implying that I am to blame if anybody is tired of reading this shit. Wwwwwwhich only proves my challenge to you in the quote above. Because few average people could or would bother to nail you for the phony that you are. Razzledazzle Man.


I don't know who or what joe grunge is, or what a guy from pakistan is like.

You should know what grunge is. If you donâ??t then this is another indication that you were not born in the US nor in Great Britain, nor in Canada.
If you were qualified to be a writer for young people of said nations, then you would be familiar with the phrasing of heâ??s Joe This or heâ??s Joe That. Of course, there are caves in all of the above nations so I suppose it is possible that your spent a lot of time in one.

You have to prove to us that you are qualified to write Garden. Not the other way around. I donâ??t want any of your products if I have to make a career out of getting clarifications and details from you.

Many good people older than you and me have generously posted info about cannabis for free. Youâ??re only genius is you are preying on our modern video culture where you know many American kids donâ??t like to read.

But there is no way a video can answer as many questions.... or... prove to us I am wrong about your video and have it reviewed. Send it to Zandor. Let him write the review. Let him say whether it is a ripoff or not.


I don't know what a dork is...

Okay well. Do you know what a mirror is??


Much of what is BEING said just lands on .... on nothing...

Note Gardenâ??s capitalized word again, plus the, I don fucking know, but it ainâ??t a complete sentence, whateverthefuckitis. It is in fact a logic or a way of brushing off responsible dialogue that came from cultish belief systems like â??estâ?? which flourished quite nicely in northern California. For $600 you can go away from a weekend and they tell you that nothing makes sense and you have the right to not make sense to anybody else and still think you are valuable and a communicating individual. Itâ??s doubletalk. Donâ??t get mezzed by it. It only sounds intelligent in some foreign and mysterious way.
Garden, just knock it off.


it lands onto an identity... An identity that I don't have so it just keeps going.. i see it pass... what is it.. I don't KNOW...

Right there Garden you are just faking ignorance and confusion for the purpose of weaseling out of the challenge. The lack of complete sentences leads kids to think you are being victimized and that you are confused. When it is you who is refusing to face the challenge and to honestly face my good solid reasons here for making this challenge. You talk in circles. Nice try but itâ??s just doubletalk. Itâ??s just you trying to pretend for the audience that my arguments and words have been too obtuse. Itâ??s a lot to read and I appologize to everybody.

My main bitch is I donâ??t like seeing kids pay for something that will only help them get half way to where they wanna get. There is a good chance if we buy your dvd Garden, that you are only too glad to sell us another one after that because the first one did not answer certain questions.


I have to stop and make space.... i have nothing for you, nor do I wish to have anything of yours..

That would be the beginning of how you Garden are refusing my offer to help you market your dvd, and my challenge to put it up for review.

Readers: Be your own judge. Garden is too afraid to submit his product for review by me or Zandor.


I LOVE YOU..

Garden your primary love is our money. The I love you part is just copy and paste. We are individuals with different levels of need. A good writer would understand that. You do not fool me with your token prince of community sharing. Thatâ??s the ploy. You are a bbbs jammer, plain n simple. If your product was good you could double your sales. But you think you are coming off like a trustworthy person. You are not.


What does land ON ME.. WHAT I AM.. is someone who wishes to be a part of the cannabis.com community... to interact and support the group...

Then why not do that by sharing your dvd for less money? Why not sell it to us for the current price but let it be reviewed? Why do you answer questions like the person already knows the untold parts of your stupid incomplete answers? Why did you not take the time to find out who crashdamage was?


I know that spider mites can get really nasty when the temp goes above 80 degrees.

I donâ??t know why you bring the Spider Mite thread into this dialogue but let me point out something that happens a lot and not just by you.

When we all try to help others we may mean very well if we offer our suggestions.

But if the new person on the other end only gets half the detail then it is not good. Sometimes it is worse to give just part of an answer because whoever reads that thread will think that the Great Garden Knowm has answered it so they think that the question is satisfactorily answered.

Zandor can get away with that because when he answers a question he figures other people will read it and also jump in with more details. In Zandors case he is really trying to help people. He is doing it for free.

In my opinion, G, you answer too many damned threads. But few of your answers comprehensive (or complete). Zandor we know has experience and Zandor does not dazzle us if he does not know something. Your posts lack depth because you do not believe reading a lot is fashionable. You think the kids will think you are uncool like me.

But if you truly have knowledge people do not care if they want that knowledge.

Ask many of us here if we know we can count on Garden Knowm to give all the information that Zandor does not have time to give.

The answer will be no.

But you obviously have the time Garden because you post onto threads that have already been sufficiently answered.

I can only think you do that because you do not want any new people to look like more of an authority than you. Which is not fair to those of us can help others with beginner questions.

This is for the readers, Garden.
I had a Spider Mite problem and I had to do research on other sites because Cannabis.com experts like you Garden Knowm were spending too much time arguing about sodomy or arranging dates for sodomy or whatever.

I got my Spider Mite info and bought the best product available for this problem. I used it. It worked better than expected. I answered somebody question about spider mites and you complimented me for it.

Well, on the spider mite issue my experience was more recent than yours and the new product was probably not available when you had your spider mite problem.

So now along comes a newb and reads my post and then reads you or that other guy, and now they wonder if my info was the best info. My info is the most recent. I found Kelthane. I recommended it. Zandor likely reviewed it and did not object.

But you. You make a point out of trying to give all the newbies that your advice is the last word.

And that only makes your authority on anything less credible.


I also would like to share with you.. REZ.. that... I have maybe once.. maybe once.. suggested somebody take a look at the seemorebuds dvd...MAYBE....

Nice try G. The link is there. You know kids like to click on links. You know they like to watch vids if it will save them some work or study time. Thatâ??s just a disgaceful pandering to laziness. Like I said Garden you are not dumb. You know what the soft sell is.

This actually explains why all your posts are so short and why you rarely follow up on the threads that you post to. You also know that if somebody posts a question and if you are the first one to answer their post then whatever little answer you give to them, that person will think you care about their problem and think that Garden Knowm is da man. They check your vid link just like I did. And for a while I thought you were cool. Then the next time I posted a question - a detailed question - youyouyouyouyouYouuuuuuuuuu Garden. You were the bully. To a beginner grower no less.

Not only did you NOT answer my question, but you also made fun of me for asking my question in detail.

And that was the moment it became apparent to me that you are might be insincere, self-gratifying and shifty and that you do not give a shit about anybodyâ??s problem except your own cash flow problem. And that 70% of your posts are to get your link more exposure. From that point I began to think you probably rip people off every day with that video, buhhht that you are slick enough to make it not look like a boldface ripoff. How do we see it that way? Because you have all your razzledazzle jive talk est bullshit sprinkled about which tricks us into thinking you are enlightened and literate. You are a little literate. But not as literate as you make kids believe you are.

In fact as an adult, talkin like a halfbake, you are literally encouraging stoners to ignore the necessity of trying to expand their view of life, while they experience cannabis.

You are screwing them on the basis of that charade alone.

None of your answers are complete enough to prove that you care. The I love you stuff is just a deflection trick.


and I have suggested that people purchase books and other materials... none of which I am affiliated.

Please link me to a post where you recommended specific titles of books or specific links to information, Garden.

Thanks

Nah. You gotta earn the love pal.


turtle, I know longer wish to flame you















the game has gotten out of hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

















Just kidding............. wanker

finaly............

A waste of bandwidth that is supposed to give the illoooooosion of intelligence.


you hear something but don't turn around to see what it is look inside who is it that is making all that noise __________________

Nice evasive trick, GK, but it ainâ??t gonna work on us any more. Neither one of these remarks a complete sentence? Iâ??m really trying hard here to believe you are not a dumbass but those remarks are not working in your favor. You are not qualified or adequately educated to attempt symbolism and metaphors. Trust us.

Are you going to submit your book and dvd for review?

If you do and the review is good then you have nothing to fear.

And if it isnâ??t just a bunch of jive talking fluff then wouldnâ??t it be a SMART move, if it made more people buy the book?

And by the way Garden.
This isnâ??t a game.
Your post on the thread in question where you ask that person to email you the picture which you are experienced enough to know you can simply download?????
Why did you ask the person to email you?
What if you are a part of a narc task force with dvd and all, and you are just phishing for email addresses to gather info on people.

You need to be proven legitimate. Otherwise maybe you are correct about the game part here.

Which is why the dvd is probably no value at all which would explain why you will not submit it to someone here for review.

Plus you just donâ??t act very cool in a sincere way. It feels more like a narc trying to act like he thinks cool is supposed to be.

Youâ??re just cruel or money centered too much. I just canâ??t find a streak of genuine-ness and really submitting that dvd for review would just be a smart thing to do if it was any good.

Sorry peeps. The emperor is now nikkid.

Submit the dvd and book G.

And to anybody who did buy the vid please tell us if he then asks you to buy follow up vids from a series of vids.

Again. real sorry but somethin's fishy about his asking for an email addy from anybody without even advising them of security issues. Not everyone who comes here is bright enough to get a hushmail addy and only somebody who did not care about someone's anonymity would flat out suggest that.

I mean. Overall Knowm treats people with at least some amount of superficial respect, He will tell you your grow looks good and you will think he is your friend, but what good does it do you if after you think that, and then he goes and treats you like a dumbass. Or starts in with his stupid flaming shit.

Do you come here to learn how to grow and to learn? And does Knowm ever answer all your questions??

I have looked around and -- shit -- maybe -- I dunno - just looks like razzledazzle bs to me, considering how much of an expert he claims himself to be.

Fuck.

Look. Only thing is I hate to see people mislead.

Submit the dvd and book to someone GK. It's the smart thing to do.
Convince us you have the faith in your own product.

And don't waste my time or anybody elses time telling me if I made some dumb edit mistake in this.

That's my challenge and your refusal will speak for itself.
Otherwise don't keep jumpin in and putting the fizz on every damned thread that didn't ask for your half baked answers. Give full complete answers if you are actually qualified to sell information.

Prove it to us that you are qualified. The number of your posts is no indication you are knowledgable to that extent. 50% of your posts are pure fluff and some of us resent the fact you are posing as an expert.

Submit your dvd and book for review or remove your link from your signature or buy an ad and support this site in a legitimately commercial fashion if you wanna be commerce boy.

That's the way it's done unless your a hack.