My Setup

[kpxhorangee]

Hey everyone,

I'm not a virgin to growing anymore but I'm still a beginner. I've only had two previous plants, both of which were a big failure. The first one died, probably because of my inexperience, and the second one turned out to be a male. I was discouraged to start another plant but I've decided to give it another try.

I have a small setup that I built from scratch. I'm very limited in space because I have to hide my setup from anyone and everyone that comes into my room. I made a 1.5'X1.5'x3.5' box out of wood and painted the inside white. I put an intake fan on the bottom of the box and an exhaust fan at the top of the box. Both fans are computer fans hooked up to a power supply that is located right next to the box. For the next grow I'm going to have a bubbler system set up. I have two 150w cfl's and a small 80w flo. tube.

The reason that my setup is so small and perhaps lacking is because I have to keep it a secret from my parents. I need to keep this setup as small and as quiet as possible. So far for insulation I have two thick blankets covering the box. The fans are pretty quiet but I need a way to keep the power supply quiet. I'm going to have a small air pump for the bubbler system but I also need a way to keep that quiet.

What I need from you guys is some serious advice. I need:
1. A way to insulate my box.
2. A way to keep my power supply and air pump quiet.
3. Any suggestions for how I can fit more plants in my tiny box.
4. A more effecient way to set up the three lights that I have.
5. Any suggestions/comments.

Thanks to those of you who took time out of your day to at least read my long post. Thanks in advance to those of you who reply.

-Rob

[kpxhorangee]

Sorry, I forgot the attachments.

[smokeydabear]

thats a pretty small set up but you can work with it.
try useing house insulation.
but make sure you keep up with the temp.
try building a second smaller box for you power supp.
hope that helps.

[kpxhorangee]

Thanks smokeydabear, I'll definitely keep your suggestions in mind.

[Zandor]

You forgot you need one more thing dude.

You need to find another place to live once your parents catch you.

What are you going to do about odor control? You can make thing as quit as you can but the odor is a dead give away.

Don't mean to flame you or anything but it's not cool to do that to your parents IMO.

[kpxhorangee]

Yeah, I am well aware that I'm not doing anything that I should be too proud of. But, I'm going to go ahead and do what I've been doing. Good point about the odor though, I forgot about that. The first two plants didn't smell that bad though. Any suggestions on how to control odor?

[HARDDON]

Sounds like Junior has made his mind up....

Bad junior.

Honor your parents. Respect them. Oblige them in their rules.

One day you will thank me for this advice.

Best of luck :)

[kpxhorangee]

Don't even start with this bullshit guys. You have NO right to tell me that I do not honor and respect my parents. I came here looking for help with my "hobby" not for a moral lesson. Now if you will stop looking down and me and pretending that you're some sinless person I would really appreciate it. All I need is some advice on how to fix my setup, not advice on how I should live MY life. I have already made up my mind on this matter and I really want to go ahead and continue growing. Let's stay on topic here guys. All I need is a little help with my setup, nothing more. Thanks.

-"Junior"

[HARDDON]

All I need is a little help with my setup, nothing more. Thanks.

-"Junior"


No Junior needs a spanking :)

You are a minor. To Give advice to you to help you do something you shouldnt do is a moral problem for me.

If I had some 80 year old hippy give my kid advice on how to grow weed, I would be pissed cuz my kid didnt come to me for the advice.

But, seeing your parents do not want you growing, then you shouldnt.

And if you did, and you burned your house down cuz of your setup, who will the insurance companies come after?

Or if your folks call the cops, and make an issue of it, who they gonna look for?

You are asking some of us to violate the laws....you should try growing tamaters for a while, then when you turn legal age, then someone other than a child might advise you.

Otherwise show us how smart you are and dont let us know what a junior you are.

A nice guy no doubt, but, still a junior :)

Now get to school junior and eat the teacher :D

[BobBong]

Don't even start with this bullshit guys. You have NO right to tell me that I do not honor and respect my parents. I came here looking for help with my "hobby" not for a moral lesson. Now if you will stop looking down and me and pretending that you're some sinless person I would really appreciate it. All I need is some advice on how to fix my setup, not advice on how I should live MY life. I have already made up my mind on this matter and I really want to go ahead and continue growing. Let's stay on topic here guys. All I need is a little help with my setup, nothing more. Thanks.

-"Junior"

You came here looking for advice and comments, not a "moral lesson" you're right. You got your advice.. and took at as a grain of salt. Advice from people that have been growing for many years, have been caught, have been through the legal system.. and were kids living at home themselves once too. Harddon, no need for the Junior shit...that's pretty disrespectful. I used to get called "Junior" at work.. until i quit and the store went under. Then they didn't call me junior anymore.... sorry kinda sidetracking.

Your setup looks fine, it looks like you've learned a bit from your past attempts. This is how it is done.. trial and error. Just as you'll find out that keeping a growbox hidden in your parents house.. will be next to impossible.

Don't know about you... but when i buy a house, i'm going to know what happens in every corner of the house.. because.. it's just that.. MY HOUSE.


"You have NO right to tell me that I do not honor and respect my parents."
Again, you're right... i'm sure you love and respect your parents alot...or you don't.. but that doesn't matter.

If you DO respect your parents then you have to think about the position you're putting them in. It IS illegal to grow, anyway you look at it. You want Dad to go to con college for you? Lose his job maybe?

You want advice? Here's some advice i hope you can take without getting offended.

You need to have the Pro's outweigh the Con's when deciding to grow.

so let's look at it

you could grow maybe 2or3 female plants in that growbox.. and get roughly 1 - 1.5 ounces per plant, in about 3 months. this means going 3 months without being caught.. or busted for anything else.. infact, pretty much 3 months of your parents not entering your room will be needed for this grow to be completed. That's assuming the 3 seeds you germinate are female...

What if you waste a month of growing to get 2 males and 1 female? 3 months of pure paranoia isn't worth less than 2 ounces.. in my opinion..

So the question is.. Is it worth it? is it worth getting caught? is it worth the shit storm with your parents if they find it? you have alot more to lose here than just a bit of wood and a couple CFL's.

You sir.. need to rethink this. If you don't, you're going to regret it.

[kpxhorangee]

Thanks alot BobBong, thats what I like to hear. I know that I may be younger than most of you but I am not a complete idiot. How I interpreted what most of you were saying is "your parents are going to get mad so stop". It sounded like a bunch of unwanted nagging that had no effect on me whatsoever. I really like how BobBong handled this with his specific details and examples. Maybe some of you can learn a lesson in schooling others from BobBong. I'm sure that you guys are all good people and therefore didn't want to help me screw things up but I think that there could've been a better way to handle this instead of belittling me. BTW, I'm a Freshman in college and I was only looking for a temporary fix for a semester or so until I move out.

And damn HARDON I had no idea you were an eighty year old hippie. :eek:

[kpxhorangee]

I forgot something in my post above. I really appreciate all of your concerns and advice. Thanks for trying to set me straight guys. We need more people like you in this world. :D

-Rob

[HARDDON]

Hey I Haven't disrespected anyone.

Not yet.

But Bob Bong do not try and teach me what disrespectful is. Ther is nothing wrong with calling a youngster junior.

Fuck. WTF?

Did I say Brat?

RugRat?

Curtain Climber?

NO, I did not. To me those would be signs of disrespect.

The fact you were called junior and took offense is your situation.

For me, junior signifies soemthing entirely different. But if you think HARD ON goes around on egg shells worring about peoples little feelings, well.....i think you should know better than that by now.

Its ok for you to post funny pics describing your feelings about some shitty plants out there but disrespectful for me to call a youngster JUNIOR?

Lets not go down that road.

When HARD ON is prepared to show disrespect, I have a clear history of being able to do so with no unceratin terms.

I havent done that in a long long time.

If anyone is showing disrespect, its junior doing it to his parents.

The old HARD ON would continue on, but the newer, kinder, more gentle HARD ON will end it here.

Love, Hugs and Kisses :)

RESPECTFULLY,
HARD ON

[BobBong]

Thanks alot BobBong, thats what I like to hear. I know that I may be younger than most of you but I am not a complete idiot. How I interpreted what most of you were saying is "your parents are going to get mad so stop". It sounded like a bunch of unwanted nagging that had no effect on me whatsoever. I really like how BobBong handled this with his specific details and examples. Maybe some of you can learn a lesson in schooling others from BobBong. I'm sure that you guys are all good people and therefore didn't want to help me screw things up but I think that there could've been a better way to handle this instead of belittling me. BTW, I'm a Freshman in college and I was only looking for a temporary fix for a semester or so until I move out.

And damn HARDON I had no idea you were an eighty year old hippie. :eek:
Hey, i know where you're coming from man...Growing is a very personal thing. It's a hobby, a passion, a garden and producer. If everyone grew thier own.. and only thier own, then alot of things would change. The "drugwar" would be turned to REAL drugs like cocaine and heroin...the shit the destroys lives, drains trust funds and kills people.
The only reason pot remains illegal is because of the black market that is attached to it. Remove the market..and it removes the need for the regulation.

You say it's only a temporary fix, then take that into consideration when you rethink it...why can't you wait? If you're planning to move out, then why risk it? would it not be better to keep a strong bond with your parents after you move out? rather than messing up that bond.. breaking thier trust in you and getting kicked out?

That's a great setup you got there..keep it. add some more CFL's and you'll be right as rain for 2 strong plants.

Cheers man, and good luck...i'm sure you'll figure out what to do.

ps. I just turned 20... i'm not exactly giving elderly advice, but i've learned a thing or two.

[BobBong]

Hey I Haven't disrespected anyone.

Not yet.

But Bob Bong do not try and teach me what disrespectful is. Ther is nothing wrong with calling a youngster junior.

Fuck. WTF?

Did I say Brat?

RugRat?

Curtain Climber?

NO, I did not. To me those would be signs of disrespect.

The fact you were called junior and took offense is your situation.

For me, junior signifies soemthing entirely different. But if you think HARD ON goes around on egg shells worring about peoples little feelings, well.....i think you should know better than that by now.

Its ok for you to post funny pics describing your feelings about some shitty plants out there but disrespectful for me to call a youngster JUNIOR?

Lets not go down that road.

When HARD ON is prepared to show disrespect, I have a clear history of being able to do so with no unceratin terms.

I havent done that in a long long time.

If anyone is showing disrespect, its junior doing it to his parents.

The old HARD ON would continue on, but the newer, kinder, more gentle HARD ON will end it here.

Love, Hugs and Kisses :)

RESPECTFULLY,
HARD ON

Dude.. the way you used the word was incredibely disrespectful...


Junior needs a spanking :)

It's not the word itself, it's the way you're using it.

[HARDDON]

Your position is understood.

Perhap it was a bit condenscending.

I "assumed" it was a mid teenager or so.....

But I think the poster is quite competent to stand his own ground and speak for himself. AndI think he has done so.

Lets move on, shall we?

Thanks.

[kpxhorangee]

Yeah I think this thread is just about over. I've decided to wait until I move out to grow. I really do appreciate ALL of you guys and the concern that you showed. It really made me think of the consequences of my actions and that what I do affects my parents as well. Honestly, I really didn't think about the possibility of me burning the house down and having my parents take all of the shit. I guess theres more to growing than just getting cheap weed. Thanks again guys.

-Rob

[TonyD]

Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one and they all stink.

[HARDDON]

Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one and they all stink.

Is that your opinion? :D

[Garden Knowm]

HD - wtf man.. we can't leave you in any thread alone.. you are a bralling, bully, bruiser.... you are a thug and a hulligan, LOL :D

[Garden Knowm]

orange, its cool man.. nobody ment disrepect.. most of us are friends here and can say anything to each other... we forget that we have established a culture and relationships that takes time... we get a little haevy handed sometimes...

HD is a cool fucking cat and loves a good grow..actually he loives a bad grow to,, he would never dog you.. you seem cool and your response is understandable

Although he might talk himself up.. : )

[HARDDON]

Although he might talk himself up.. : )

You say this and then post the pic of that studly looking dude as your AVATAR????


ROFLMOA ROFLMAO ROFKLMAO :)

That knome is a classic :) :) :)

[Garden Knowm]

hahahahahahah

[turtle420]

Wow... I leave you guys alone for 4 hours and I come back to mayhem? Jesus fucking Christ...

Just kidding... It was interesting reading this entire thread and looking how things got solved by themselves. I do understand HarddOn's point about getting fucked by the law... that would suck.

Orange, kudos to you for deciding to grow. Nice job. As to growing inside your parents' home, I think you've decided the right thing; to wait for it. You're going to enjoy it a hole lot more if you can do it in your dorm... in your student apartment or whatever...

Come back when you're ready, you'll have shitloads of advise from these guys.

Orange, hope to see you back again. Take care...

-turtle420 :cool:

PS: If you want to piss-off HarddOn, ask him about his dog-shit-smelling buds... some little birdy told me they stink like "still steaming pile of dog shit"... LOL LOL LOL just fucking HD