Who's a vegetarian here?

[ermitonto]

I'm sure there must be other herb-toking herbivores here. Speak up guys!

[nickx760]

i dont understand the whole vegetarian thing

[yocass]

veggie burgers... gross.

[krons]

some of my stoner friends are veggies.

[beachguy in thongs]

I like my steak, seared (charred, pittsburgh-style). There must be a different feeling to your arms if you don't eat meet. I bet you eat tomatoes, too. Tomatoes are the Holy Vegetable. You shouldn't bite into them and make them bleed. You never want to catch it bleeding when you're eating it out. Back to the race. I think Don Mattingly has the coolest name in sports.

I'm pretty sure my one friend is a vegetatarian. I'm not erasing that.

[GHoSToKeR]

Me! Me! Ooh, ooh, pick me!

Uhh.. funnily enough I became a vegetarian because of something someone posted on this site.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=5241&highlight=vegetarian

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=5646&highlight=vegetarian

+lol+ :) Haven't eaten meat since. :)

[Garden Knowm]

nice work GHOST...

bodhisattva

[GHoSToKeR]

Aww..reading through those old threads bought a tear to my eye. +tear+ So many members have disappeared. +lol+

[Ganja Cat]

im a vegetarian now lol but seriously i dont think i can eat meat after that video

[death of sXe]

im a vegitarian.
did you know we'll live longer than our carnivore stoner counterparts? ghost has a good 30% chance of living 20 years longer than beachguy automaticly.
and thats how it should be.
ill be smokin till im 103

[beachguy in thongs]

Ah, where's that from?

Did you know meat gives you strength and spirit?

[Ganja Cat]

Ah, where's that from?

Did you know meat gives you strength and spirit?

did you watch the video

[ermitonto]

i dont understand the whole vegetarian thing
I don't understand the whole meat-eating thing. To be honest, I didn't become a vegetarian for any ethical or health reasons. Meat just disgusts me.

[Ganja Cat]

i am now officialy a vegetarian, there is only one exception....crab meat

[yocass]

man... I was hungry before watching that and I was gonna have a nice burger :( But those damn pigs on there made me want bacon instead. And I dont have bacon. :(

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill

no, vegans dont piss me off, same as people of other religions dont piss me off, push it on me, and Ill eat you! lol and no, no one in here pissed me off yet, just posting the article for shits n giggles.

[tokosan]

i eat lots of puppies, if ya have to ask.

[nickx760]

that video was nasty, the pigs were the worst cause u can here them scream


but i still love bacon, and other meats...

[tokosan]

that video was nasty, the pigs were the worst cause u can here them scream


but i still love bacon, and other meats...puppies and baby seals alot.
fixed

[beachguy in thongs]

Yeah, that's funny. Those animals were breed to be slaughtered. Chickens are the first to undergo the harsh reality of animal slaughtering.

It's an animal farm, where they raise food. Not care bears. That video was so funny, yet SHOCKING!

[GHoSToKeR]

I'll say what I said in the other thread you posted the exact same thing in;

"Ya, but the point isn't that animals shouldn't be slaughtered like that in slaughter houses, it's that slaughter houses like that shouldn't exist.

That's like, if I was to say "Nazis shouldn't have killed the Jews in those concentration camps" and you replying "yeah, but that's what the concentration camps were for.""

[WeedWorm]

after seeing that video a couple months ago, i was a vegatarian for awhile, but than i decided, why not jus eat kosher meat from a kosher butcher i trust? i'm jewish so i know the strict rules of the process of making sure meat is kosher, so when i am eating it i know the animals were treated humanely and died of natural causes or were killed in one swift cut with no pain

[meloncoly]

here's something that not many vegetarians know (or care to acknowledge): every year millions of animals are killed by wheat and soy bean combines during harvesting season. Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak, but conveniently ignore the fact that each year millions of mice, rabbits, snakes, skunks, possums, squirrels, gophers and rats are ruthlessly murdered as a direct result of YOUR dieting habits

[Torog]

Howdy ermitonto,

Vegetarian ? Git a rope ! lol

Down here in Texas,we have laws to protect the beef industry from vegetarians, just ask Oprah...she learned the hard way-ya don't mess with the Texas cattle industry..lol.

Have a good one ....

[Lily420]

God put cow on earth so i can sink my teeth into it, and do that i will. Salad is quite good tho. I think those whom r vegetarians get too much shit for it honestly....i think its very noble for someone to feel like eating another living creature is wrong. If you have that much campassion for wild life then word to you my broda! :D

[GHoSToKeR]

Saying that animals dying from farming vegetables is the same as boiling the skin off of thousands of pigs and slitting their throats while they're still alive is... fucking stupid, to tell you the truth.

lol, Hey torog,

I knew you'd have something to say about this topic.. :D

-GHoST-

Edit: Thanks for the kind words, Lily.. I don't get why vegetarians get shit either. I mean, if you stopped eating tomatoes would I give you shit for it and try and convince you to change your mind? lol :p

[yocass]

and being crippled and mangled in the baking sun dying cuz a combine fucked your shit up up is humane? how come 500000000 rats dying is so much better than 500000 cows dying? if you can say that the rats are less significant than cattle, then I can say cattle is less significant than humans, right? Personally.. you already know I dont give a shit either way heh. Im gonna eat my shit, and your gonna eat your shit and no one is gonna change anyones minds for the msot part. but answer me this, you have any leather? lol

[GHoSToKeR]

Nope, no leather at all. I had a pair of leather shoes that someone bought me ages ago, but I gave them away. :)

And there's a difference between animals being bred solely for the purpose of being murdered and animals accidently dying as a result of tractors and such. At least I didn't purposely kill anything, nor did I purposely contribute to the killing of anything. That's the difference.

Oh and yeah, i'll eat my shit and you'll eat your shit.. as long as you don't try and eat my shit then we're cool. :p

[yocass]

wow... thought you were above that response lol. Mind if I qoute the same site I linked?

"That's right: the gloves have come off. The vegetarian response to this embarrassing fact is "well, at least we're not killing intentionally." So let me get this straight; not only are animals ruthlessly being murdered as a direct result of your diet, but you're not even using the meat of the animals YOU kill? At least we're eating the animals we kill (and although we also contribute to the slaughter of animals during grain harvesting, keep in mind that we're not the ones with a moral qualm about it), not just leaving them to rot in a field somewhere. That makes you just as morally repugnant than any meat-eater any day. Not only that, but you're killing free-roaming animals, not animals that were raised for feed. Their bodies get mangled in the combine's machinery, bones crushed, and you have the audacity to point fingers at the meat industry for humanely punching a spike through a cow's neck? If you think that tofu burgers come at no cost to animals or the environment, guess again."

and good job on the leather, hate it when people who dont eat meat for moral reasons stride around in leather. Bugs the shit outta me lol.

[ermitonto]

I have nothing against meat-eaters. I see diet as a personal choice. I realize that people have been eating meat for, well, just about all of human history. Although I do believe the way meat is handled today is rather cruel and inhumane, and it definitely needs to be changed, I don't expect everybody to change their diets because of something they can't control like the meat industry.

You guys let me eat what I want to eat, and I'll let you eat your flesh that you have to cook deadly bacteria out of. ;)

[meloncoly]

it's not the same, but they get brutally murdered with spinning blades, I'd rather be dropped in boiling water or have my throat slit than be decapitated by spinning blades anyday, at least those are a more instant death.

And congratulations on being a vegetarian for what, two weeks? all because of one little internet video? Time to bin all your belts and shoes GHoSToKeR, wouldn't want any leather in your house would we? Also you'll need to stop drinking milk and eating fish too, it's all cruelty.

2 weeks pfft

[KoRnStaR]

...

If you eat meat, you have to realize what happens, accept it, and continue on with it.

If you don't eat meat, then good for you..

WEAK SAUCE

[death of sXe]

well ghost, once we're all in our 40s and our metabolisms start slowing down, these fat gutted meat eaters will begin to show advanced symptoms of their gluttony. they can look forward to heart disease, heart attacks, CANCER and a whole range of cardiovascular disease and obesity.
as they begin to drop like the flies that lay eggs in their food and rot like their colons we will realize..hey...MORE WEED FOR US

[death of sXe]

its impossible for them to win this argument, since their ammunition is ignorance.

everything you wanted to know about eating flesh (but were afraid to ask)


Human population of United States: 270,000,000 (and counting)
Number of human beings who could be fed by the grain and soybeans eaten by U.S. livestock: 1,300,000,000
Sacred food of Native Americans: Corn
Percentage of corn grown in United States eaten by human beings: 20
Percentage of corn grown in United States eaten by livestock: 80
Percentage of soy grown in United States eaten by livestock: 90

so, that obliterates the idea that vegitarians are just as bad for the killing of field mice. in fact we're over 90% less responsible for their death.

[death of sXe]

more? consider this. by eating meat you are not only contributing to the suffering of animals but youre also helping children starve to death. way to go.


Percentage of oats grown in United States eaten by livestock: 95
How frequently a child dies of starvation: Every 2.3 seconds
Pounds of potatoes that can be grown on 1 acre of land: 20,000
Pounds of beef that can be produced on 1 acre of land: 165
Number of children who starve to death every day: 38,000
Amount of total U.S. grain production consumed by livestock: 70%
Number of people who will starve to death this year: 20,000,000
Number of people who could be adequately fed if Americans reduced their intake of meat by 10%: 100,000,000

enjoy your mushed up gential by produc..i mean..hot dogs. cheers! youre helping the planet die while being a fat ass!

[F L E S H]

Saying that animals dying from farming vegetables is the same as boiling the skin off of thousands of pigs and slitting their throats while they're still alive is... fucking stupid, to tell you the truth.

lol, Hey torog,

I knew you'd have something to say about this topic.. :D

-GHoST-

Edit: Thanks for the kind words, Lily.. I don't get why vegetarians get shit either. I mean, if you stopped eating tomatoes would I give you shit for it and try and convince you to change your mind? lol :p
It's not all vegetarians that get shit from meat-eaters. two of my cousins are vegetarians and quite frankly I don't even care. Those who bother me are those who constantly preach at me that meat is bad, I'm a bad person, I'm stupid to eat meat, blah blah blah.

On a side note, you said slitting pigs' throats while they're alive is fucking stupid... but how else are you supposed to kill them??? My uncle in Italy actually has some pigs, and he slaughters them himself to make fresh sausages and prosciutto... OMG it's so fucking good :D

[beachguy in thongs]

There's a difference between deer meat and human meat, and if we weren't eating deer then they would run the world.

God gave us brain receptors for pleasure (you dope) and eating dog meat isn't pleasurable. Nor Jew meat. Beef, on the other hand, stimulates God-given receptors. Plus, gives you necessary nutrients. I think that many lifeforms were meant to rule the world. Animals don't speak, but they carry on conversations with another. They can communicate, which means they might overthrow the world, if we're not careful.

"God created Man in his own image".

But we don't look like him.

[death of sXe]

^^^ two weak arguments to justify stuffing your faces with corpses. thats okay tho, without you weaklings running around i wouldnt feel so important

[beachguy in thongs]

Well, I really shouldn't have been in this thread to justify eating meat, in the first place. I know that we're born to eat meat. Eat what you want, all food is bad for you and you're body is gonna break down, sooner or later, because of your genes.

My position on the "meat-eater vs. vegetarian" is that I could care less because I smoke cigarettes. Plus, I don't eat, much, but a FILET MIGNON is way better than a celery stick.

[death of sXe]

well, we're designed to eat some meat, just look at our teeth. you're kind of right there, beachguy.
still, we're primarily herbivores.

yet nothing can justify the hellish conditions these animals are subjected to. as a species, we no longer need to kill for our protein. it's a senseless, barbaric holocaust...

[Anousenka]

well, we're designed to eat some meat, just look at our teeth. you're kind of right there, beachguy.
still, we're primarily herbivores.

yet nothing can justify the hellish conditions these animals are subjected to. as a species, we no longer need to kill for our protein. it's a senseless, barbaric holocaust...


You're ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!!!:):):) Animals are subjected to ridiculously cruel treatment and it's simply unneccessary and just plain HORRIBLE!!! Plus, meat makes people die faster.

[ermitonto]

Well, I really shouldn't have been in this thread to justify eating meat, in the first place. I know that we're born to eat meat. Eat what you want, all food is bad for you and you're body is gonna break down, sooner or later, because of your genes.

My position on the "meat-eater vs. vegetarian" is that I could care less because I smoke cigarettes. Plus, I don't eat, much, but a FILET MIGNON is way better than a celery stick.
Nobody is "born" to do anything. As humans we have free will, which means that after we're born we are free to do whatever we choose. The American Dietetic Association states that not only are vegetarian diets sufficient for fulfilling all of one's nutritional needs, but also that "vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer." I do care about my health (which is why I don't smoke cigarettes), and as for filet mignon being better than celery sticks, that is a matter of opinion. The taste and texture of meat is just plain disgusting to me.

[beachguy in thongs]

Ermontito, I respect your post and see your compassion towards our differences.
It is all a matter of personal opinion because some people are born to eat vegetables (just like some people are born to stay away from Poison Ivy).

As the elite lifeform on Earth, we possess the qualities of all creatures, carnivorous and herbivorous.

[ermitonto]

My parents sometimes joke that I'm not really so much a vegetarian as I am a carnophobe. :)

[beachguy in thongs]

I guess it would make you cringe when I say I like my steak medium-rare?

[yocass]

wow and again, all I have to do is quote a link to mess with your arguements....
"A number of people have pointed out that the amount of grain grown to feed animals for slaughter every year is greater than the amount of grain grown for humans. So I guess the amount of grain grown for human consumption suddenly becomes negligible and we can conveniently ignore the fact that animals are still ruthlessly murdered either way because of your diet, right? Not to mention that the majority of grain grown for livestock is tough as rocks, coarse, and so low-grade that it's only fit for animal consumption in the first place. Spare me the "you could feed 500 people with the grain used to feed one cow" line of shit; it's not the same grain. Then there are the people who jump on the bandwagon with "you could plant billions of potatoes on the land used for cows"--good point, except for the fact that not every plot of land is equally fertile; you think farmers always have a choice on what they do with their land? Also, many vegetarians don't know (or care to acknowledge) that in many parts of the United States they have "control hunts" in which hunting permits are passed out whenever there is a pest problem (the pest here is deer, elk and antelope) that threatens wheat, soy, vegetable and other crops; this happens several times per year. Then some of you throw out claims that "we are trying to limit the suffering." How about you limit MY suffering and shut the hell up about your stupid diet for a change; nobody cares. Even if the number of animals that die in combine deaths every year isn't in the millions, even if it's just one, are you suggesting that the life of one baby rabbit isn't worth saving? Are you placing a value on life? Enjoy your tofu, murderers."

[beachguy in thongs]

That's irrelevant knowledge, yoke-ass.

[GHoSToKeR]

it's not the same, but they get brutally murdered with spinning blades, I'd rather be dropped in boiling water or have my throat slit than be decapitated by spinning blades anyday, at least those are a more instant death.

And congratulations on being a vegetarian for what, two weeks? all because of one little internet video? Time to bin all your belts and shoes GHoSToKeR, wouldn't want any leather in your house would we? Also you'll need to stop drinking milk and eating fish too, it's all cruelty.

2 weeks pfft
Hate to burst your bubble and waste such an awesome post that I know you just are so proud of.... but I made that thread September 26th.... 2004.

[GHoSToKeR]

wow and again, all I have to do is quote a link to mess with your arguements....
"A number of people have pointed out that the amount of grain grown to feed animals for slaughter every year is greater than the amount of grain grown for humans. So I guess the amount of grain grown for human consumption suddenly becomes negligible and we can conveniently ignore the fact that animals are still ruthlessly murdered either way because of your diet, right? Not to mention that the majority of grain grown for livestock is tough as rocks, coarse, and so low-grade that it's only fit for animal consumption in the first place. Spare me the "you could feed 500 people with the grain used to feed one cow" line of shit; it's not the same grain. Then there are the people who jump on the bandwagon with "you could plant billions of potatoes on the land used for cows"--good point, except for the fact that not every plot of land is equally fertile; you think farmers always have a choice on what they do with their land? Also, many vegetarians don't know (or care to acknowledge) that in many parts of the United States they have "control hunts" in which hunting permits are passed out whenever there is a pest problem (the pest here is deer, elk and antelope) that threatens wheat, soy, vegetable and other crops; this happens several times per year. Then some of you throw out claims that "we are trying to limit the suffering." How about you limit MY suffering and shut the hell up about your stupid diet for a change; nobody cares. Even if the number of animals that die in combine deaths every year isn't in the millions, even if it's just one, are you suggesting that the life of one baby rabbit isn't worth saving? Are you placing a value on life? Enjoy your tofu, murderers."
Yocass, as much as I like Maddox you have to admit he talks shit alot of the time. His arguments are always weak. Funny, but weak.

The fact is that by eating meat I would be literally contributing to the intentional slaughter of animals. I don't want to have that on my conscience. I don't want to put a piece of slimy, greasy steak in my mouth knowing the shit that that animal went through to get it on my plate.

Yes, animals die as a result of tractors and plows as such. But it's not intentional. And yes, that does make a difference.

Think about this; if intent doesn't matter than the American armed forces that you are so proud of are guilty of murder every time they accidently murder a civilian. It doesn't matter if they tried to prevent civilian deaths, because according to you, intent doesn't matter.

[mellow mood]

i was vegetalian for like 7 years (which means no products that comes from animals, like eggs, milk, etc and no meat) and was vegetarian for 4 years. now i eat only turkey and chicken, coz im kinda lazy.

i try to eat meat as low as possible coz its pretty disgusting how they treat animals.

but sometimes its just hard to never eat meat and all, so im just lazy lol

[Mojavpa]

Vegetarians are healthier than non-vegetarians not because they just dont meat. They might be healthier because non-vegetarians usually eat way too much meat and vegetarians may be "healthier" because they are more likely to include healthy alternatives in place of meat.

The Okinawa diet, for instance, has been studied extensively because the people there have pretty much the highest life expectancy in the world. Usually, "asian" diets are considered healthy. They do, however, contain meat in their diet. But many Westerners consume two to three times the amount of meat people in East Asia do. Not only that, but Americans eat the poorest kind of meat choices-pepperoni, salami, other preserved meats which contain nitrates and may cause cancer. They also dont include enough fish, which is a healthier alternative to beef.

Also, if you're a vegetarian, but eating white bread and cheese sticks everyday, you wont be healthier than someone who eats a wide variety of foods, including, say, beef, vegetables, and whole grains.

[Mojavpa]

Well, I really shouldn't have been in this thread to justify eating meat, in the first place. I know that we're born to eat meat. Eat what you want, all food is bad for you and you're body is gonna break down, sooner or later, because of your genes.

My position on the "meat-eater vs. vegetarian" is that I could care less because I smoke cigarettes. Plus, I don't eat, much, but a FILET MIGNON is way better than a celery stick.

If you mean we're born to eat meat, meaning that we're physically adapted to meat meat, than you're right. We're omnivores by "nature", and actually humans could not have evolved without eating meat, according to one theory. When our ancestors began to introduce more meat into their diet, their brains actually grew over countless generations because of the additional protein in their diets.

Does that mean we "need" meat now? No, there are many high protein choices today, like soy.

[beachguy in thongs]

Welcome, Oh Great Mohavpa, into the conversation.

[Mojavpa]

Welcome, Oh Great Mohavpa, into the conversation.

It always seems like I post in a thread when people have already lost interest in the topic at hand. lol

[yocass]

ooo wow beachguy, you made fun of my name... how original! And again, its a fuckin quote dipshit. I posted it for laughs, as Ive already said. His arguement doesnt matter, but his point is the hypocracy of vegans. You get sand in your vagina when you see animals die for human consumption, but when animals die that arent big and noticed, you shrug it off. And of course its murder. And of course it doesnt matter if you intended to kill. The fact is, no matter what you eat from commercial foods, your contributing to somethings death more then likely. What about the insects being killed from pesticides etc? The point is, who are any of us to draw the line at what animals deserve to die for our food? You want to have a personal line, fine. Just acknowledge that its still in the middle. Only way to not kill anything to live, is to die. Even plants are living, whether they feel pain or not, they were alive till you ate them, right? If it wasnt murder to kill civilians in war we wouldnt have such accurate bombs and weaponry to minimize civilian casualties. Why do you think so many people were mad about hiroshima? Why do you think we havent used such a massive weapons since WWII?

[Canadabis]

Im a vegetarian.
Makes my sperm sweet, or so ive been told.

[Canadabis]

ooo wow beachguy, you made fun of my name... how original! And again, its a fuckin quote dipshit. I posted it for laughs, as Ive already said. His arguement doesnt matter, but his point is the hypocracy of vegans. You get sand in your vagina when you see animals die for human consumption, but when animals die that arent big and noticed, you shrug it off. And of course its murder. And of course it doesnt matter if you intended to kill. The fact is, no matter what you eat from commercial foods, your contributing to somethings death more then likely. What about the insects being killed from pesticides etc? The point is, who are any of us to draw the line at what animals deserve to die for our food? You want to have a personal line, fine. Just acknowledge that its still in the middle. Only way to not kill anything to live, is to die. Even plants are living, whether they feel pain or not, they were alive till you ate them, right? If it wasnt murder to kill civilians in war we wouldnt have such accurate bombs and weaponry to minimize civilian casualties. Why do you think so many people were mad about hiroshima? Why do you think we havent used such a massive weapons since WWII?

i only read part of it, as im too high and dont care, but uhn...Im a hypocritical vegetarian, I like leather, leather coat, boots, wallet, seat in my car, couch, etc. I just dont EAT them :D

The rest I sort of glanced over and felt indifference, much like the indifference I felt at the death of a calf for my new fall gloves. Theyre so soft and supple, you would just die.

[GHoSToKeR]

yocass, there is a difference between intentionally killing something or contributing to the killing of something and unintentionally killing something or something being killed as an indirect result of your actions. That's why there is murder and then there's manslaughter.

Look, let's not get caught up on pedantics. My conscience is clean, because I don't eat meat and therefore don't contribute knowingly to the torture and murder of animals.

And anyway, your argument is flawed. You're basically saying "I'm not going to stop killing these animals because you kill those." The fact of the matter is at least i'm trying to make a difference.

[PotheadInMass]

I personaly do not see being a vegetarian as proper.. its called the food chain.. we eat things that run around in the wild, its natural, i love the taste of a nice cut of steak cooked to perfection, using some salt to realy bring out the flavor. Besides... there are no vegetarian lions, meaning your a nice cut of steak to something anyway.. just let it be...

[yocass]

how am I saying that? Im saying I dont care, Id kill the damn cow myself. You just ignore the fact that your eating contributes to millions of animal deaths a year, as does mine. Only difference is, your the one with a moral issue with it. and you are knowingly contributing to animals deaths, every piece of bread you eat required some animal to die most likely. Your just placing a higher value on cattle and pigs rather then rats, as I place a higher value on people rather than cattle and pigs. Really no difference.... And both our conciouses are clear :D

[GHoSToKeR]

No, the difference is that i'm trying to minimise the amount of animals that die as a result of my actions. Yes, maybe animals do die in fields of vegetables, and I feel bad about that... and I try to only eat locally grown vegetables that are grown in small farms and alotments and such, but it's not always possible to do that. But my not eating meat at least i'm doing the best I can. I'm not just throwing my hands in the air, saying fuck it and going out to shoot a bunny.

[yocass]

same logic I could say Im eating meat, because most meat is much more humanely killed then the poor bunnies, right? This reminds me of a religion debate, both sides can spin any issue on the thing their way, and as with religion, the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

[Ousted]

The best part is when you bite into this sucker and grease and other condiment goop runs down the side of your hand... :D

[GHoSToKeR]

Yocass, no it's not a case of that at all. It's a case of one group of people knowing what's happening to these animals and not giving a fuck, and another group of people tyring to make the small difference that they can.

Ousted, I really like you and your posts, but I don't think you're doing yourself any favours with posts like that. You're being offensive simply for the fuck of it, and making yourself look extremely immature in the process.

[Ousted]

Ousted, I really like you and your posts, but I don't think you're doing yourself any favours with posts like that. You're being offensive simply for the fuck of it, and making yourself look extremely immature in the process.

As I was replying to the other post I decided to check back on this thread and its a good thing I did.
I had no idea you took your diet as seriously as you do, and I apologize if my picture of the BK Double Whopper with cheese came off as insensitive. I probably am. But they're really really good! :p

[GHoSToKeR]

Kinda offensive, mostly revolting. :) No worries.. I don't try and cram a vegetable down everyone's throat, but when people make ridiculous claims such as "vegetarianism is stupid because animals still get killed" then I have to argue my case. But i just do what I do, and you do what you do. We may not agree but I just don't like it when people have to start getting offensive.. I do it myself sometimes but I try not to. Anyway, it's all good! +hugs ousted+ :D :p

[yocass]

~shrug~ If I was a cow Id rather get fed all my food, and humanely killed once I got old, rather than living my life in constant threat of getting attacked by animals. Like I said from the beginning I posted that site and every refrence as a joke, so if your gonna take it seriously, maybe you take your diet more seriously than you thought? If you wanna take a little funny debate as a ridiculous claim or an attack, go ahead lol. And, why you gotta make up quotes? Oh thats right, because no one said that.

[tylerkane]

You just related the Holocaust to killing animals.
You stupid fuck..

And from what I have read, slitting the pigs throat is the easiest way to kill it.
Go join PETA or something you pussy, that video didn't change my perspective at all.

[death of sXe]

There are no regulations on killing the BILLIONS of animals killed a year.
These animals appreciate classical music, experience pain and all the emotions we do (most mammals share basic emotion) yet they are treated worse than holocaust victims.

At Auschwitz
the vast human slaughterhouse had reached the peak of its efficiency. Long trains transported Hungarian Jews to the annex camp of Birkenau on a three-track siding that went right up to the new crematoria working at full capacity....
USDA:

While the American meat industry has had more than a century to streamline its operations, the acceleration of line speeds in the last twenty-five years has greatly increased the pace with which the meat and poultry industries slaughter animals.

look, you meat eaters are simply igorant about this topic. thats why i can give you facts all day and you can give nothing but your own narrow opinon based on your own mcdonalds commercial saturated lives. your best bet is to simply admit you are contributing to the decay of our world.

[Canadabis]

I dont contribute to the decay of our society.
I feed off it :)
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm the decedance.

[Anousenka]

There are no regulations on killing the BILLIONS of animals killed a year.
These animals appreciate classical music, experience pain and all the emotions we do (most mammals share basic emotion) yet they are treated worse than holocaust victims.

At Auschwitz
the vast human slaughterhouse had reached the peak of its efficiency. Long trains transported Hungarian Jews to the annex camp of Birkenau on a three-track siding that went right up to the new crematoria working at full capacity....
USDA:

While the American meat industry has had more than a century to streamline its operations, the acceleration of line speeds in the last twenty-five years has greatly increased the pace with which the meat and poultry industries slaughter animals.

look, you meat eaters are simply igorant about this topic. thats why i can give you facts all day and you can give nothing but your own narrow opinon based on your own mcdonalds commercial saturated lives. your best bet is to simply admit you are contributing to the decay of our world.

You're absolutely right again!!! Meat eaters ARE ignorant about this topic, COMPLETELY IGNORANT!!! Why don't some of you mentally or better yet, physically, have yourselves put through the intense torture these poor creatures recieve:( They simply DO NOT deserve it:(

[Canadabis]

You're absolutely right again!!! Meat eaters ARE ignorant about this topic, COMPLETELY IGNORANT!!! Why don't some of you mentally or better yet, physically, have yourselves put through the intense torture these poor creatures recieve:( They simply DO NOT deserve it:(

This is true, they dont "need" to suffer so much, there are better ways of killing them.

Omg my angora scarf is so soft, its from the bunnies, but with the leather attached, its so fuzzy and soft aaaaaaaaah droool...............

[Canadabis]

or should i say "more efficient ways of processing the final soloution"

[tylerkane]

KILLING CHICKENS IS COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT THAN KILLING A FUCKING HUMAN BEING WHOS ONLY CRIME IS BEING JEWISH.

By the way, my mom is grilling steaks downstairs, smells so good I could orgasim in my pants right now.

[death of sXe]

If your mom was a cow, which from the sound of it she is..
you'd of been seperated from her at birth and put into a crate so smAll you couldnt move. once your muscles atrophied you would be slaughtered.
later on, your mother would be killed brutally and without remorse, to be served on a grill downstairs

[tylerkane]

by the way, I don't eat McDonalds, and they don't serve real meat, shows what you know, dumbass.

If im "igorant", then you are a stupid fucking hippy. Also, the word is ignorant, hehehehehe

[GHoSToKeR]

yocass, why are you getting angry? What's so wrong with drawing a comparison between the death camps at Auschwitz and the millions of death camps all over the world? Just because you think humans are more important than animals it doesn't mean I have to agree.

And please.. calling somebody a pussy because they don't eat meat is ridiculous. You're the pussy for being scared of change. You're the pussy for trying to justify the mass slaughter of millions of defenceless animals every day just so you can have a burger or a steak when you get peckish.

Anyway, it's not me that has these lives on my conscience, and it's not me that's gonna die from having my heart pumped full of fat every day.

Edit: Macdonalds doesn't serve meat!?!?! You're right, they don't. They serve processed shit.. but it's still meat, you ignorant little kid.

Edit2: Does anyone else see the irony of this sentence; "If i'm ignorant then you're a stupid fucking hippy"??? +lol+

[tylerkane]

Why did you call my mom a cow? That was uncalled for. She is a cow for making dinner? Weird.

About that being put in a box shit, cry me a fucking river.

[death of sXe]

yocass, why are you getting angry? What's so wrong with drawing a comparison between the death camps at Auschwitz and the millions of death camps all over the world? Just because you think humans are more important than animals it doesn't mean I have to agree.

And please.. calling somebody a pussy because they don't eat meat is ridiculous. You're the pussy for being scared of change. You're the pussy for trying to justify the mass slaughter of millions of defenceless animals every day just so you can have a burger or a steak when you get peckish.

Anyway, it's not me that has these lives on my conscience, and it's not me that's gonna die from having my heart pumped full of fat every day.

Edit: Macdonalds doesn't serve meat!?!?! You're right, they don't. They serve processed shit.. but it's still meat, you ignorant little kid.

Edit2: Does anyone else see the irony of this sentence; "If i'm ignorant then you're a stupid fucking hippy"??? +lol+
HHHHHHHHHHHAHhahHah

Why did you call my mom a cow? That was uncalled for. She is a cow for making dinner? Weird.

About that being put in a box shit, cry me a fucking river.
meat contains growth hormones along with massive amounts of fat. which makes u a fattie silly puddy rolly polly slopile

[GHoSToKeR]

People like you make me sick. You have no compassion or sympathy. You have no idea about the value of life except what you're told in school. I don't give a fuck what you think about this subject because you have no thoughts on the subject anyway.. You're responding because we're questioning something that you know, something that you see in your every day life but you don't actually know anything about it. People like you make me sad, too.. because you walk around this Earth like a robot with pretty much no thoughts of your own inside that mushy piece of shit in your head you call a brain.

You think eating meat is okay either because a) you've been told it's okay or b) you've been told it's okay. I don't like to be rude to people, but fuck you man.

[GHoSToKeR]

Quick question to you people who are trying as hard as you can to justify your funding of murder....

If humans didn't ever eat meat, were natural carnivores, would we still murder animals? Judging by your logic they're inferior so it's okay to kill them, so if we didn't eat meat would we kill them for fun? Would we go out on Saturday and shoot a bunny in the face or stab a poodle?

[Anousenka]

KILLING CHICKENS IS COMPLETELY FUCKING DIFFERENT THAN KILLING A FUCKING HUMAN BEING WHOS ONLY CRIME IS BEING JEWISH.

By the way, my mom is grilling steaks downstairs, smells so good I could orgasim in my pants right now.
How the fuck is that different from killing an animal who's only crime is being an animal!!!??!?!?!?!!! dipshit

[tylerkane]

Edit: Macdonalds doesn't serve meat!?!?! You're right, they don't. They serve processed shit.. but it's still meat, you ignorant little kid
Naw

Edit2: Does anyone else see the irony of this sentence; "If i'm ignorant then you're a stupid fucking hippy"??? +lol+
I don't, sadly


if we didnt kill/eat cows they would be extremely over populated and roaming all over the place, we would be running into them with our cars therefore killing them and ourselves..... theres a good idea huh.... you guys are smart lets jus let them all live so they're everywhere we'll keep those big smelly dumb animals as pets .... yeah thats even better who wouldnt want a 3000 pound cow in their backyard you bunch a morons, thats why they are here to eat, they are for milk and meat let it go you damb shits

[GHoSToKeR]

if we didnt kill/eat cows they would be extremely over populated and roaming all over the place, we would be running into them with our cars therefore killing them and ourselves..... theres a good idea huh.... you guys are smart lets jus let them all live so they're everywhere we'll keep those big smelly dumb animals as pets .... yeah thats even better who wouldnt want a 3000 pound cow in their backyard you bunch a morons, thats why they are here to eat, they are for milk and meat let it go you damb shits STUPIDEST POST I'VE SEEN SINCE I JOINED. OVER A YEAR AGO. CONGRATULATIONS.

[tylerkane]

animals dont have a sense of whuts right or wrong, a cow would stomp your ass to death and not "think" twice about it or ever again after doing so and i put "think" in parenthesis because i dont believe they do............. they dont feel guilty they dont feel, you god damn morons....... oh and by the way i dont eat meat because i was told it was ok i eat meat because its fucking delicious

[tylerkane]

Hey Ghost, now YOU are the ignorant one.
hehehe

[tylerkane]

No compassion?
I think the person comparing killing animals to eat to survive to killing innocent Jews is the one with no compassion.

[yocass]

er... I wasnt gettin mad, I simply asked you why you were gettin heated ghost. Ive already told you I dont give a shit either way, so this subject wont make me mad. Though tyler representing us meat eaters is a tad disturbing....edit: ~shrug~ veggies get sXe, so I guess the stupidity and ignorance is evened out Im mostly laughin at every post in this thread at this point, as it has turned into what every religion/moral debate ever turns into, a shitfest. No one is changing anyones mind, and instead of conversing about the subject you just ridicule each other.

[death of sXe]

heres your prize :p

[tylerkane]

that was fun
thanks guys

[Ousted]

Quick question to you people who are trying as hard as you can to justify your funding of murder....

Seriously, Ghost, you know better... :(

[beachguy in thongs]

ooo wow beachguy, you made fun of my name... how original! And again, its a fuckin quote dipshit. I posted it for laughs, as Ive already said. His arguement doesnt matter, but his point is the hypocracy of vegans. You get sand in your vagina when you see animals die for human consumption, but when animals die that arent big and noticed, you shrug it off. And of course its murder. And of course it doesnt matter if you intended to kill. The fact is, no matter what you eat from commercial foods, your contributing to somethings death more then likely. What about the insects being killed from pesticides etc? The point is, who are any of us to draw the line at what animals deserve to die for our food? You want to have a personal line, fine. Just acknowledge that its still in the middle. Only way to not kill anything to live, is to die. Even plants are living, whether they feel pain or not, they were alive till you ate them, right? If it wasnt murder to kill civilians in war we wouldnt have such accurate bombs and weaponry to minimize civilian casualties. Why do you think so many people were mad about hiroshima? Why do you think we havent used such a massive weapons since WWII?

We haven't conquered our own world, enough, to rid ourselves of the "survival of the fittest" nature. I'm sorry, but a chicken has to die in places where no vegetation can thrive.

If an animal is destined to be domesticated, no one in the world should be eating or killing it. If the animal is too dirty to be domesticated and can multiply in numbers, beyond belief, then God gave it a purpose to have babies for Human survival. I will no longer talk about this (if you don't mind) because I'll wind up sounding like a Jehovah's Witness.

[MyAntiDrugIsAmy]

We haven't conquered our own world, enough, to rid ourselves of the "survival of the fittest" nature. I'm sorry, but a chicken has to die in places where no vegetation can thrive.

If an animal is destined to be domesticated, no one in the world should be eating or killing it. If the animal is too dirty to be domesticated and can multiply in numbers, beyond belief, then God gave it a purpose to have babies for Human survival. I will no longer talk about this (if you don't mind) because I'll wind up sounding like a Jehovah's Witness.
God gave it a purpose for humans to eat, correct. and i think that's a good purpose for them, but since there is an option of getting all my nutrients from other things than animals, i would much rather eat some that is living and breathing and whose brain is more advanced than the rodents that die from the tractors, and actually, a lot of the deaths in slaughterhouses are wasted death because the animals are too sick to eat, so it's not like all the killed animals are even used. anyway, if i can't handle eating an animal because it makes me sick to even consider that, then there isn't anything wrong with me and a lot of the world, it's just a different way of looking at something that people who eat meat don't see, which is fine, cuz i don't give a fuck. i'm not getting poisoned if you eat meat, i just think the corruption of the industry shouldn't be so secret and the government could at least make an effort to fix the evident problems and corruption affecting the health of our nation.

statement for thought: in europe and canada the hormones fed to the livestock on our farms here are illegal because of the harmful effects of the hormones. what are you eating?

[beachguy in thongs]

You can't eat rodents because their meat is no good. Chickens aren't meant to drive cars because they're food. Just like their unhatched eggs. But Blue Jay eggs are no good to eat. That's the difference between which animals we slaughter and which ones we domesticate.

[TonyD]

Some of the people on this forum must be smoking something else apart from weed, comparing human sentient beings to a cow that says moo is not on.

Humans use logical thinking and understanding, comparing the wanton slaughter of millions of human beings during the holocaust to a cow farm is SICKENING.

Be a vegetarian if you wish thats no-one's business, do NOT use it to be an inhumane arsehole with as much brains as i could fit into a pea pod.

[Ousted]

Some of the people on this forum must be smoking something else apart from weed, comparing human sentient beings to a cow that says moo is not on.

Humans use logical thinking and understanding, comparing the wanton slaughter of millions of human beings during the holocaust to a cow farm is SICKENING.

Be a vegetarian if you wish thats no-one's business, do NOT use it to be an inhumane arsehole with as much brains as i could fit into a pea pod.

To people like you and me who have not leveled animals with ourselves, yeah, the comparison makes no sense, and is rather insulting. I couldn't even begin to guess how a holocaust survivor would respond to such a comparison.
However, I can understand if you hold a genuine belief that animals are of the same importance as humans, seeing an animal being abused would be just as horrific to that person as seeing another person being abused.

But, thats the ugly reality of the food chain. Things get eaten, and the process isn't always pretty or humane, even in nature.

[Anousenka]

While Annousenka still believes that all living things deserve to live happy, wonderful, infinite lives, Annousenka feels that she was reacting a bit too aggressively to some of those commenties! Annousenka eats meat, nowsies, but she would like to have a Raw Vegan nutrition programme (with the exception of some bee productsies) five days per weekie, so that Annousenka can still enjoy foods that she loves on the weekendsies ^-^

Hooraysies ^-^

♥ Annousenka ♥

[overgrowthegovt]

I am more or less...I try. Nothing satisfies me more than red meat and I'm basically a hedonist, but the ethical dilemma has me seriously limiting myself most of the time. I always feel two feelings after the very occasional big fat steak--utter bodily satisfaction and guilt.

[SickBuds]

Vegetarian for 9 years....thought thered be more vege-smokas:hippy:

[filo6942]

<---------- huge fan of morning star products!!! :hippy:

[GrinKyle]

I'm glad 80% of the people who posted in this threat 4 years ago are not around anymore, they seemed like 12 year old kids arguing their mothers ideals.

I eat meat, but more importantly I only eat healthy food along with meat.

I understand people who don't eat meat, but I also don't understand who are disgusted by meat... that's a brain disorder.

I don't like tomatoes, doesn't mean I feel sick holding or looking at one.

I also sometimes question vegetarians, because if we didn't live with today's technologies, and the whole industrial revolutions. People who'd have to plant and sow there farms for there veggies, fruits, and grains.. yet I have not run into a vegetarian that could do that kind of labor. They all seem frail, and weak with no muscle mass to be able to live that lifestyle, or do that days work over and over.

Another reason I think vegetarianism only came in existence is because of the availability of walking down the street to get fed at a trader Joe's.

I however in no way look down at people who don't agree with me, we all have been wrong at one point, and who's saying I ain't wrong here?

[Purple Banana]

I enjoy eating red meat occasionally- maybe 3 times a month, usually less. I eat a lot of chicken though- Purdue only. I've worked around their Delaware plants, known several who work there, and the chickens aren't caged in mass confined spaces, fed any hormones or antibiotics, and are only fed grains and nutritious feed products. I eat my fair share of fruits, and some veggies, and I don't wear fur; I don't really find any use for it in my climate.

I have one vegetarian friend, and she gave me crap one day by shoving a bunch of PETA propaganda down my throat... That angered me... I'm all for animal rights, but the only organizations I support are the ASPCA and local animal shelters, from which I have gotten several animals from... Pound dogs are the best...

But acting like someone is somehow subhuman by eating meat is WRONG.
And acting like someone is somehow subhuman by not eating meat is WRONG.

Coexist, people... Hopefully no one here is as immature and inconsiderate (BOTH sides of the argument) as those who have posted before.

[eddievanzant]

I am. Animals don't have any rights. That's bullshit. Plus I hate animals and we should get rid of them. Plus, meat makes you smell.

[BigLeagueJew]

I'm a vegetarian. Have been most of my life.

[Garrett]

If it's dead, might aswell put it to good use.

[Tetraspace]

Animals were put on this earth to eat PERIOD..there animals, they taste good. What do you vegetarians want...more pets cause i can solve that

[BigLeagueJew]

Are you trying to say we should eat each other? You know humans are animals right?

[Purple Banana]

Are you trying to say we should eat each other? You know humans are animals right?

Hahah, I love your username.

People forget humans are animals, too... :thumbsup:

[KindMidasSoundman]

"Well, if you like hamburgers give 'em a try sometime. Me, I can't usually eat 'em 'cause my girlfriend's a vegetarian. Which more or less makes me a vegetarian, but I sure love the taste of a good burger."