At least what age should one be to consume cannabis?

[Cannabis.com]

At least what age should one be to consume cannabis?

* 21 years of age.

* 19 years of age.

* 18 years of age.

* 17 years of age.

* 16 years of age.

* 14 years of age.

* 13 years of age.

* 12 years of age.

* Any age is fine.

* None of the above.

Ron

[beachguy in thongs]

18.

[beachguy in thongs]

I've, actually, been thinking about this. Setting an age-limit would be age-descrimination. I think we should make our own choice and reap our own benefits/consequences in the coming generations. That's the only way we will know how it works. No human has ever been studied for long-term effects of Cannibus. I'd still stick with 18 to give our brains enough time to develop on their own.

[beachguy in thongs]

Ya' know, I'm gonna continue this conversation on my own and say...

What if, one day, we find out that it makes our learning process faster?

I can't imagine anyone refuting that point, for the lack of evidence points just as much in that direction as it does the other way.

[beachguy in thongs]

beachguy...ya' crazy...we should have to be at least 30 because that's when we get the steepest drop in Melatonin levels. Or maybe 60, because that's when we'll need it the most.

I think the legalization age should be 6-months, or whenever we discontinue breastfeeding.

[ermitonto]

It really depends on the individual, since different people mature at different rates. I don't think the government ought to be enforcing a rule that says everybody who is 17 years and 364 days old is too immature, but on their 18th birthday suddenly they can handle it.

[Ae...]

Althought I can see pros and cons for a set age limit, I think that 17 is a good medium. At 17 I think the majority should be mature enough to handle the responsibilities of smoking. Age limit would not really prevent 'under-age' smoking, since most anyone can obtain anything regardless of age.

[passit420]

16 to consume, but 18 to buy. Same as tobacco in some states.

[GHoSToKeR]

It depends if you're talking in legal terms or not. Actually, it doesn't really depend on that at all. But I don't think that the government should dictate what people can or can not put in to their own bodies. I personally think that, in an ideal society, there wouldn't be age restrictions for anything and that people take responsibility for their own actions.

In the case of minors, however, I think it should be up to their parent/guardian (i'm speaking hypothetically, of cours and assuming that, in this scenario, Cannabis is legal) to decide.

[doctor G]

Or like alcohol in civilized countries, with your parents at any age. Moderation can only be taught by experience and example. Perhaps not smoking for health reasons, but in special treats like baked goods during holidays.
Doctor G

[kiwi]

;) I voted but I will keep my opinion to myself on this one...... :(

[l330]

yes
18 is ok!

[robert42]

18 in legal terms

[Santa Smoker]

I think that passit 420 is right on it smoke weed forever

[Swizzy89304]

I voted 18, but i think that it shouldnt be sold in shops - just able to grow. Of course, paraphernalia (sp?) would be sold everywhere. Then if it was legalised, cafes would have to be made legal aswell - which is only a good thing. Think about it, would you rather go out and get pissed (and probably in a fight) on a friday night or sit in a cafe with yer mates, passing round a J and having a laugh? In that respect, there would be a lot less violence on the streets aswell so the cops - useless as they are lol - could concentrate on catching the REAL criminals, not the laid back stoners that are too damn monged out to even fight back lol. Rant over.

[WalkaWalka]

Legal terms havn't ment alot to me for a while. So save your breath becuase people will just do what they want anyways.

[death of sXe]

i say 17

[nicholasstanko]

i was one of the few that voted "none of the above"


think about it guys. if weed were legal to 18+ or whatever, what about the kids that can handle it maturely at age 14 or whatever?


wouldnt they be in the same position we're in now? i know that most posters here are probably pretty mature with it and dont need the government to regulate what they do with their bodies, so why should some genius kid who's fourteen be denied what we fight for?

has parenting become that much of a novelty?

do you really want the goevernment to be able to swoop in and snatch your kid away from you over "just a little pot"?

throw your ass in jail or fine you while your kids writes letters from a foster home?


we should be able to spend five minutes every other week to sit down and discuss issues like this with our kids. if we cant find that kind of time, what kind of parents would we be?


im sorry to babble, but honestly i think if there are "age restrictions", then it'd be the same as college kids getting their hands on alcohol. you wait and wait and finally when you get the freedom, you go crazy with it...most often the first time being able to do whatever you want.



thinka bout it...

[Trichocereus Panza]

Personally, I was 18 when I tried pot for the first time. I'm 20 now; I felt then and continue to feel that it happened at just the perfect time in my life.

Just having graduated from high school, I was ripe for new experience, anxious about the future and confused about the state of my life. Basically searching for I-didn't-know-what, and trying to figure what life is all about.

The posts on this page all seem to address the technical/legal end of the question, but what I feel is almost more important than the extent to which one is "mature" and "ready for the responsibilities" of marijuana use (though this too is quite important) is the state of an individual's psychological/spiritual relationship to life, to other people, to one's own existence in the world itself. When we talk about maturity, we mean more than just being considerate of others while stoned or not driving while totally fucked. I'm talking about how much somebody has taken the time to really contemplate life, death, and the purpose of our being here, sharing this earth together. Past a certain age, it is inevitable that all of us start asking such questions... this happens at different times for different people, and so does maturity.

Most of us recognize that smoking pot can be more than just having a laugh with some friends, more than a social drug or a way to relax. Like other psychoactives it can (and should be, sometimes) a mind-blowing, private, consciousness-opening experience that is capable of teaching us much about ourselves, if we are only willing to listen. I feel that marijuana ought to be used for this as much as for social leisure, and that as part of the legalization movement we have to challenge cultural stereotypes about its users that say we are all lazy irresponsible stoners.

A person's experience of marijuana on the whole--what it is, what it is for, what it can do for you--can be incredibly rewarding and liberating if they start at an age when these problems (of self and identity, meaning of life and spirit and of the universe) are already being dealt with seriously. Pot should not be something that we are initially peer-pressured into, and informed of what to expect by a group with a limited cultural mindset. Pot is an experience which precludes definition; it is irrational and individual and we each have to make what we want of it.

We all know that things change dramatically in the post-high school/ college period. We begin to think about the "real world"--what it is and what it should be, and our place in it. This is a good time to try pot if not a little sooner.

At the age of 18, I was a late-comer to marijuana by today's standards. I see now that it was the perfect time for me because of the ideas that had begun to occupy me. For the past year, I'd begun to read the mystics, to discover the irrationality of love, to question my atheism of many years and redefine it as pantheism. I was reading lots of Buddhism. My new best friend was a hippy who challenged my preconceptions about drugs, and I took the plunge. It changed my life, helped me work through many problems, made me feel good about existence. And yet waiting until that point in my life was the best part about it, because only then was I ready for the spiritual substance it provided. Every time I smoked I was in awe, ecstasy; you know what those first few times are like. I waited two or three weeks between each "spiritual occasion" because I was almost scared of the effect it had on me, igniting that spark which was, for me, a glimpse of the infinite.

Well I know not everybody can relate to all of this, because I mean c'mon, "it's just pot." Well yeah. I know.
But that first high, man... I think everybody knows.
We can't trivialize it.

That's why I think it should be tried at an age when we know enough to separate our individuality from the culture. When it won't just be all about getting fucked up. I voted for age 17, when most people have begun to experience enough of life, the good and the bad, to be mature, to know who they are. Or what they're looking for. Or at least to know that they DON'T know.

There's nothing wrong with the recreational experience, but when you realize that there can be more than that, I think THAT'S when you're ready.

;)

[BluePhoenix]

there should not be an age limit, start smoking when u feel like it...

ofcourse 6 moths is too young, since I do not belive that such young lungs can handle it, but when a "kid" starts smoking pot should be 100% up to the parents, the government shouldnt intervene or some BS like that.....

besides... its good if the "kids" know pot before they are totally "Free"... cuz like somebody said theyll go crazy...



pot rocks :D

[Ireeboy]

yo thats a hectic question....we as individuals approach life at all differant angles,,there are some kids from 16 who live life like a 21 year old,not cause they choose too,jus because they faced reality sooneR then others where as some 21year olds are as immature as shit...wat im trying to say is if people could appreciate cannabis and not jus smoke to forget,,it would help.plus many kids i know smoke crappy head ach weed and just dont see the light...as for what age is appropriate i would say 18..like that we become responsible for our own actions and theres no one to blame....i dont know..maybe im just wierd:)
i love to grow and i love to smoke...but theres only a few times when i kick back and appreciate the iree way,mostly im so caught up in the shit around me,,i forget why i crush..so for al you crushers out there much respek and lets try educate these kids the right way...thanks for all the help cannabis.com

[ermitonto]

there should not be an age limit, start smoking when u feel like it...

ofcourse 6 moths is too young, since I do not belive that such young lungs can handle it, but when a "kid" starts smoking pot should be 100% up to the parents, the government shouldnt intervene or some BS like that.....

besides... its good if the "kids" know pot before they are totally "Free"... cuz like somebody said theyll go crazy...



pot rocks :D
I agree completely.

[Torog]

Howdy Ron,

I voted for age 17,because at that age,one can enter military service,with a parental permission..so I reckon that if yer old enuff to fight for yer country,then yer old enuff to toke and drink..but that's only if one were to join the military-otherwise I'd probably vote for 18 or 21.

Have a good one !

[DazedandConfused]

Give it you greedy people. why should there be any age limit? thats being greedy. even if we went with the majority and said you had to be 18 i would still be able to man. but you need let everyone smoke it man! not just the chosen ones!

[looseends]

;) I voted but I will keep my opinion to myself on this one...... :(

I'm with you on this one Mz K.

[pimpofthenation]

18 + over is great

[andruejaysin]

So, regardless of age, does anyone here have trouble finding weed? Probably not. Prohibition places the distribution in the hands of criminals. But then everyone here can probably get beer, perhaps they should just let people live their lives, as they choose. a crazy idea in the land of the free, huh?

[Frickr]

We are all diffrent. We all grow and develope at diffrent rates. So by putting an age limit on it, we are only limiting our selves. I say that most people 17 and older are experienced with life, enough to the point where they have to decide what they want in life. I mean at this point, we get bombarded with questions anymore. Do we want to join the military, go to collage, go to trade school, go straight to work, or just be a lazy ass bum. We are surrounded by choices, and recognized as adults in many societies. Yet as adults we are forbidden to smoke. At 17 we can join the military with perental signing, at 18 we can buy tobacco, and vote, and at 21 we can drink. Isn't it time we esstablish one age where we are concidered adults, instead of Dickjockying around? i say that 18 should be the age we are concidered adults, thats whats accepted in society today, and thats what most people really start to mature. Do i think it will end crime completely? No, there is no way we can end crime, but if we asstablish a tax on it, like tobacco, limit the amount we have in our posession, we can use the money from the tax alone to pay for the war on drugs. This will pay for the "war on drugs" by full, and will be able to get better programs asstablished in our elementry and highschools, to better educate the youth of the next generations. Telling them the dangers of the harder drugs, and get rid of all of the bullshit. Kids dont like bullshit, they want the truth right up front. And the programs that are going on today, are just a waste of money. By telling kids all these myths and lies about Marijuana, when they find out the truth later on in life, they are going to be less likely to beleive what you say. So i say 1. we get rid of the bullshit in school; 2. get a better program going to educate kids about the dangers of drugs, the actual facts about them, and teach them that moderation is ok, as long as if you can control yourself; 3. learn by experience, live and let live. Meaning, most 'stoners' today, arent lazy, broke, worthless people. They make every level of society. Not just one group; 4. Esstablish one age where we are concidered adults; 5. Legalize the growing of hemp, the one without THC, for growing as a cash crop, alternate fuel sorce, alternate for cotton; 6. legalize marijuana for recreational use.

I feel that after saying this, that alot of people will agree with me, Legalize it, and get a better education behind the youth of the next generations. We all know that the marijuana prohibation isnt working, so instead of having our kids, be doing it, getting caught, sent away from us, and have us get arrested for smoking, and sent to jail. why not tell the kids, what exactly it does to your mind, body, and soul. whether harmfull or for the better, give it to them straight up. not just about marijuana, but about all drugs, leave no myths out there for those kids to pick up on, because once a kid starts picking up on those things being myths, then he/she starts thinking that everything youve told them about that is a lie. And i also feel the only way we can get anything done is to go and do something about it, revolt, riot, boycot, whatever, just protest till we get the nation behind us, so lets spread the word, and this upcoming April 20th, lets have a nationwide smokeup! because sitting on here does nothing, but have us complain to each other, noone but ourselves is reading this stuff, lets get the word out there. and i will start an additional post about the smoke up.

[pimpofthenation]

18 + over is great

[newbie1232]

I don't think there should be an age limit per say. Depression is most common among teenagers. There should be a waiver, after the parents talk with the kid, and feel he is responsible and mature enough, they go to city hall, and sign a waiver, and have it notirized by somebody there. Then, the kid gets a license to buy/grow and consume it.

[WeedWorm]

any age is fine 8-) smoke a reefer and be happy fuckers

[hempity]

hiya Ron,
like nic i voted for none of the above, also like bluephoenix and ermitonto, it is 100% up to the parents or guardians.
no government on earth has the right to tell an adult what to eat, drink, smoke, wear or say.

i have had the honor to attend native american church services where peyote is ingested. there were many people there all sizes and races, some had children, the children were given peyote that was first chewed by the parents.
it was one of the most spiritual events of my long life, in the morning everyone was related and knew it.
mitaoyate
hempity

[Psycho4Bud]

the children were given peyote that was first chewed by the parents.

And these are exactly some of the DUMB ASS actions that keeps weed illegal!

[beachguy in thongs]

If they allow it, they should legalize it for everyone, but raise the driving age to 18, to keep younger people from getting too stoned, then driving dumb.

[WalkaWalka]

i only drive dumb when im boozed

[mike jones]

Howdy Ron,

I voted for age 17,because at that age,one can enter military service,with a parental permission..so I reckon that if yer old enuff to fight for yer country,then yer old enuff to toke and drink..but that's only if one were to join the military-otherwise I'd probably vote for 18 or 21.

Have a good one !

totally agree

[xxSTONER.MANxx]

none of those ages i started smokin weed at the age of 10 and been smokin since

[seedbare]

I was 8 or 9 when I first tried it, I think its totally individual, I really was never a kid, even as a youngster I thought and acted as an adult, I know thats strange, but I was never one to do stupid and foolish things, or get myself into situations I couldent handle, so for me it was fine, like I say I think its individual.

[Not Enough Herb]

you should be able to decide at any age when u wanna smoke

having on limits on sumthing as good as cannibas is just plain wack

later

[rastabill89]

I voted for 21 becouse thats the age you gota drink but I think the drinking age should be 18 and the smokin age 18 but that would never happen

[GHoSToKeR]

I notice the majority of the votes are either for 16, 18, or 21. I wonder; is this because people have made their own decision and just drew the same conclusions, or is it because these are the magical ages that our governments use whenever they have to restrict something?

[beachguy in thongs]

It's because most of us have already reached that age.

I, originally, put 18, but I've changed my answer to "No limits".

The worse that can happen is a child could become overly-passive.

[KenoSmoker]

I agree with Torog, thats exactly what Ive always said.

[Trychs]

I've put 18 for recreational same as alcohol which seems fair I sppose but for medical then there shouldn't be an age limit its a medicine too I reckon.

[afakeleg]

OK, actually my sis and I have been talking about this for years, it seems. We decided 21 and it should have the same type of laws alcohol has. Of course 18 seems reasonable because it's identical to smoking a cig., but a cig doesn't cause the same effects as a joint does. It causes a reaction that impaires your jugement. Must be 21 to purchase, smoke, got to coffee shops, and of course no driving while stoned. Of course many of the laws would be broken, just like drinking, but I think that this is the only type of the thing the Government would go for, if they ever do it at all... too bad we didn't have the same laws as the Netherlands. Legal pot and drinking at 16.

[potsmokersinceiwas9]

as soon as they hit puberty

[buginabassbin]

18. simply because its the age at wich you are legally an adult and can vote drink get married etc.

its not a case of being greedy or age discrimination. you have to give something for kids to do illicitly or there wouldn't be any rules to break!

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i'd like to point out that anyone who did not choose "any age is fine" is prejudice against age groups, for whatever reason i dont give two craps.


be it "medical science" that "proves" children are underdeveloped.

be it whatever it may, it's still prejudice.

no matter how you look at it, it's still "you cant do that because of this"


"you cant be free because your black" makes as much sence as "you cant smoke (or drink) because you're under *age here*"

it's prejudice.

[sirkills]

I voted 18, but i think that it shouldnt be sold in shops - just able to grow. Of course, paraphernalia (sp?) would be sold everywhere. Then if it was legalised, cafes would have to be made legal aswell - which is only a good thing. Think about it, would you rather go out and get pissed (and probably in a fight) on a friday night or sit in a cafe with yer mates, passing round a J and having a laugh? In that respect, there would be a lot less violence on the streets aswell so the cops - useless as they are lol - could concentrate on catching the REAL criminals, not the laid back stoners that are too damn monged out to even fight back lol. Rant over.


that is the truth sounds like amsterdamn a bit..........your location says kettering...is that ohio by any chance

[Monkey4Sale]

i'd like to point out that anyone who did not choose "any age is fine" is prejudice against age groups, for whatever reason i dont give two craps.


be it "medical science" that "proves" children are underdeveloped.

be it whatever it may, it's still prejudice.

no matter how you look at it, it's still "you cant do that because of this"


"you cant be free because your black" makes as much sence as "you cant smoke (or drink) because you're under *age here*"

it's prejudice.

You aren't very bright. If you are under 18 it doesn't much matter, you can't vote. And being ageist doesn't have the same repercussions as being racist. No one hangs kids because they are kids. I don't much care what your rebuttal is, you don't really know what you are talking about.

[Gnomey]

I put 18 because by then the body is pretty much done developing, you're a legal adult, and hopefully old enough to make decisions on your own and sort of smoke weed without getting into too much trouble. I started at 13 but that doesn't make me right... It just means I get bored too easily. Yeah... 18 sounds safe.

[Monkey4Sale]

I put 18 because by then the body is pretty much done developing, you're a legal adult, and hopefully old enough to make decisions on your own and sort of smoke weed without getting into too much trouble. I started at 13 but that doesn't make me right... It just means I get bored too easily. Yeah... 18 sounds safe.


Your body isn't done developing (as a male), until you are around 25. Women are more in the 18-22 range.

[stoned4life]

i think u shouldent start until ur in high school

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

You aren't very bright. If you are under 18 it doesn't much matter, you can't vote. And being ageist doesn't have the same repercussions as being racist. No one hangs kids because they are kids. I don't much care what your rebuttal is, you don't really know what you are talking about.i resent that, but it's not my fault that you dont know what i do and do not know, so i am not offended.

racism = prejudicy

racism =/= ageism


this is rather obvious, the root word being "race", refering to the unfair treatment to people of other races.

now... what is it that makes ageism any better than racism? the fact that we arent killing the childres cannot outweigh the act of imposing on someone's free will.
killing = imposing on the will of the victom, it's not death that matters, but the free will surrounding it.

you humans are too blinded by actions and illusions like death... you use this blindness to justify your ignorant ways... it's pitiful... :(

[Swizzy89304]

that is the truth sounds like amsterdamn a bit..........your location says kettering...is that ohio by any chance

nope, kettering in the UK. its a crappy little place in the middle of england, with pretty much nothing to do. although theres plenty of herb around here... :rasta:

[Monkey4Sale]

you humans are too blinded by actions and illusions like death... you use this blindness to justify your ignorant ways... it's pitiful... :(


You do realize that you are a human as well?

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

You do realize that you are a human as well?dont remind me.

[Monkey4Sale]

dont remind me.


I shouldn't have to.

[shamrok16]

i voted 13. thats about when i started smoking weed though

[OR Freebird]

You should be old enough to know better, but young enough not to care!

[OzzyOz]

19 or 21

19 is good, a year after your able to smoke ciggs etc. legally and your an adult and you have a years experience of being an adult to make good decisions.

21... wouldn't cause much controversy at that age, you already have to be that old to drink in the US ( should be 18 or 19 though to drink IMO... )

[Cleveland]

i say 21. thats when all the neurons in the brain have finished connecting to each other. plus, that way people who are still at least 18 can ask someone a few years older to hook them up. if the age was 17, then 13-14 year olds could just ask their 17 years old friends for help

[ADaisyChain]

i resent that, but it's not my fault that you dont know what i do and do not know, so i am not offended.

racism = prejudicy

racism =/= ageism


this is rather obvious, the root word being "race", refering to the unfair treatment to people of other races.

now... what is it that makes ageism any better than racism? the fact that we arent killing the childres cannot outweigh the act of imposing on someone's free will.
killing = imposing on the will of the victom, it's not death that matters, but the free will surrounding it.

you humans are too blinded by actions and illusions like death... you use this blindness to justify your ignorant ways... it's pitiful... :(

I will justify my beliefs through the illusion of medical proof.

Here's why I think restricting a child is different from restricting a race:
Race has little to no biological importance.
Age has huge biological importance.

Quit blinding yourself with the illusion that everything is an illusion and therefore doesn't matter. We may well all be a dream, nothing, or everything, I frankly don't give a damn because I won't know it for a fact until I die. Here's the deal though, death does effect people. Illusion or not. This is because the majority of people do not view it as an illusion.

If I stop my 7 year old from playing with my loaded gun, but I don't stop my 17 year old, am I ageist?

I sure hope you say no, otherwise I'm sending my 7 year old over.

You moron you're too blinded by your pseudo-intellectualism and pessimistic ignorance... you use this blindness to distort others beliefs in order to make yourself seem intelligent... its pitiful.

"But adaisychain, you're a moron too."

Uugghh, we all are, don't remind me.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

dont remind meI shouldn't have to.you dont.

[Bonez87x]

I like Denver's Alternative to Alcohol thing.

It makes sence, and you see underage people drink anywho

And you also see underage people smoking to

so why not 21? might pass faster and it does seem more likely to happen

[OR Freebird]

18 ...

Old enough to vote, old enough to die, old enough to smoke ...

[partyguy420]

u missed the age of 15.... i was gonna pick 15 give or take a year....

[bluntblaze]

i must have started wen i was ........ about 11 or 12 but that was jus like 9-12 a month now im 14 i smoke 5+ joints a day but in scotland most ppl start smokin at about 10-14 but i think the ages are gonna get younger of ppl smokin so i think it should be 14 from personal veiw

[smoke.a.cig.a.ribit]

im 16, ive been consuming marijuana since i was 13....and i think it should be legal for ANY age...actually not any age maybe like 16...yes 16..

[beachguy in thongs]

If they find out that Marijuana could be a good treatment for A.D.D., it might be a good idea to legalize it for everyone.

[tankgirl]

18 b/c then the human brain has grown enough so the person doesnt suffer immaturity...pot is known to stunt mental and matturity growth...and the mind genually stops growing at 18, 21 for sure....lol <3

of corse i first tried it at 15....and didnt officially start smoing untill i was 19....lol but did it every now and then inbetween.. :rasta:

[Edgar]

I think some kid on the Montel Williams show was takin' cannabis for ADD, (eating it in sweets and other foodstuff) or maybe that was on somethin' else, in any case; I saw it somewhere. :stoned:

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i know that dairy and too much sugar triggers ADD symptoms...


go soy :D

[nppmpimp]

Honestly I believe cigarettes and weed should switch legal roles. Cigarettes kill thousands, you have to smoke a pound in a sitting, in like 1 hr. to overdose, not possible. I don't know, weed is natural without all that crap the cigarette companies put in it. LEGALIZE IT. :thumbsup:

[Midnight Baker]

i said 16, yes its young. however if the goverment feels your capable of getting your drivers licence then you should be mature enough to make the pot smoking decision. although i would discourage pot smoking and driving.

[NightProwler]

any age is fine as long as they understand what they are doing

[spaz420]

14 years old is way too young no matter how mature you think you are. It is more a matter of development rather than maturity. I believe that around 16+ is a better age for this.

Spaz :dance:

[esrabalamir]

use by teens is much lower in areas where cannabis is decriminalized

[Fabolous]

this question should automaticly be any age,

my reson is this...
When you be come a adult you gotta get a jobs, and as most people on here know that Drug testing is growing everywhere these days....

my point it enjoy it while your in your youth age, hell i started at age 9 smokin my Dad's roaches when she left for work or somthing,
Now i am 16 and well never reget it from when i frist started.

Live life to it's fullist i say! and if that means getting stoned from young age then let it :dance: BE :dance:

[Euphoric]

Add Fabolous to Your Ignore List

[Fabolous]

LoL thats mean, you know.... it's just the way i see it, hell i figur if they wanna smoke thats there choice to do at a young age,(as i did) not everyone elses.

but hey thats what i think though, (must be becase i was livin in the trial park, with all them methd and crack heads around)

[beachguy in thongs]

Let's go all the way, on this one.

No more Pot arrests, fines, slaps on the wrists, and no more probable cause for reason to search for dangerous drugs.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

Add Fabolous to Your Ignore Listi will add YOU to my ignore list with that sort of attitude!




this question should automaticly be any age,

my reson is this...
When you be come a adult you gotta get a jobs, and as most people on here know that Drug testing is growing everywhere these days....

my point it enjoy it while your in your youth age, hell i started at age 9 smokin my Dad's roaches when she left for work or somthing,
Now i am 16 and well never reget it from when i frist started.

Live life to it's fullist i say! and if that means getting stoned from young age then let it :dance: BE :dance:
right on, right the fuck on, live life to the fullest you possibly can, have no regrets!

i have too many regrets already and im 'only' 20! :(

[Saucy8]

Eighteen at the earliest.

[amsterdam]

21 YEARS OLD.

[Fabolous]

i will add YOU to my ignore list with that sort of attitude!




right on, right the fuck on, live life to the fullest you possibly can, have no regrets!

i have too many regrets already and im 'only' 20! :(

Yep i love the fact you see it my way, i respect that shit heh............

[Euphoric]

i will add YOU to my ignore list with that sort of attitude!

:p :p :p

[Fabolous]

you know what Euphoric you been offically added to my shit list, i am tierd of your shit, disrepecting people with this fucking ignore list bull shit.....

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

chill out

[Fabolous]

yea yea yea, i know my sinseriously apology for my out burst... but it's just how i am. you know it's sorta like school 1 kid starts talking all shit in the world, then befor you know it's 2 then 3 and very shortly the whole school seems to be on your case....

[Lady Vapor]

I voted none of the above as it could be used in a healty way for younger people for medical purposes - If the freakin government would ever regulate it so it could be safely administered!

In reading the book, "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" It states that before 1939 it was LEGALLY used in medicines for children as low as 3 years old!

NO I'M NOT ADVOCATING ANYONE BLOWING SMOKE INTO A LITTLE KID'S LUNGS - THAT WOULD BE PLAIN STUPID!

[beachguy in thongs]

But, you're saying that it shouldn't be legal at all.

[daima]

There are cultures in the world where kids as young as 4 start to use cannabis with their parents. The dean at the School of Nursing, University of Iowa, in Iowa, has studied these families and concluded that parents who used cannabis with their kids had a stronger bond with their children and they spent more time with their children than their non-cannabis using counterparts. It isnt the cannabis that is wicked in America, its the ink pen and those who control it who are wicked..

dai*ma :stoned:

[Danish Hashhead]

I doubt it really, physically makes much difference when you actually start smoking Weed.

I think we can all agree that weed is bound to do some damage to you i the long run.

I started smoking when i was 14, and in my opinion, weed will only damage you if you have no positive influences in your life.

[bongsmoker]

I started smoking when i was 12 and i did fine. i think that age doesnt matter so much as how mature some one is.

[intheclouds]

Ya' know, I'm gonna continue this conversation on my own and say...

What if, one day, we find out that it makes our learning process faster?

I can't imagine anyone refuting that point, for the lack of evidence points just as much in that direction as it does the other way.

I said none of the above. It affects different people in different ways. It will really help some by relaxing them so they learn better and help them concentrate better, And some it won't help that much. I think most will be in the first category.


"For example it really helped me thru school, It helped me to relax and concentrate. Plus I could smoke a J before class, Look over my notes and take a test, And the answers were just there after I read the question. So it helped me get my diploma" :thumbsup:

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

y'all:

FUCK saftey. saftey is in the hands of only individuals. if you take responsability for someone else's saftey, i hate you.


except in the case of children, and it stretches it, bit i can tolerate lovers as well.

but when it comes to things like drinking, smoking (pot), and driving, fuck saftey, the unsafe will get killed, and they deserved it for being reckless.


LIFE IS NOT TO BE PROTECTED!!!

it is meant to be experianced! if you keep harping on and on about driving safe, drinking safe, toking and smoking safe, you're sucking the whole POINT of life out of the bottle.

people aremenant to die from their mistakes. it teaches others to be more aware. if we try to constantly protect each other, people will never truly learn, and stupid people will continue to enroach the planet, imposing the stupidest of things, like prohibition.

[bedake]

i said 21, personally i think most people are not very mature at 18 to handle it if it was legal, not that it would stop em....

[DrSians]

Would HAVE to be 21 to even consider legalization. Can you imagine trying to justify 16? And I think 21 is appropriate anyway. I tried it first when I was 19, regularly smoking by 21 or so. I def don't think HS kids should engage. To young yet, too formative. I strongly believe marijuana was meant for the mature brain.

[Raider187]

Most people I know started when they we like 13.

[ghandi]

My dealers been smokin' MJ since he was 9, lol

[XTC]

I hate kids.... so 18.

[karmaxul]

As soon as a indivisual can gain the understanding of the benefits of vitamins. If that is at age 2 then toke up baby. I would recommend a vaporizer for those under the age of seven as that is when the lungs are fully developed. Stay young forever.
One love
c

[BestTonicIsChronic]

I did it for the first time when i was 14. Im 16 now but it just looks soo bad when you see or hear kids who are like 10-11 years old smokeing pot its like come on ehat the hell. I think 18 is good cause then you can do it in moderation and you dont fuck up ur highschool classes and not even have a chance at going to college or university.
But thats just my toughts.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

I hate kids.... so 18.
i hate you.

[OzzyOz]

whatever time one is mature enough to handle the herb... could be 13 years old, could be 31 years old.

It's all about keeping herb in moderation, and not letting it take over your life.

[Great Spirit]

Well if they do decide to ever legalize it, I would say 18 years old. Keep alcohol at 21. lol. I heard when Canada legalizes it, it will be at 16. I am pretty sure that is what the Canadian Senate report said.

[orangeman]

Any age is fine to me.

Smoking marijuana is WAY less dangerous than being a juvenile vandal or joining a gang and kids smaller than 12 does this. So I believe just like those choices are made by these individuals, smoking or eating marijuana is also made by them.

[Mctuffet]

om onm

[karmaxul]

Besttonicischoric
Most drugs of abuse decrease the generation of new neurons in the brain, but the effects of marijuana on this process, called neurogenesis, had not been clear.

In a paper appearing online on October 13 in advance of print publication of the November issue of the Journal of Clinical Investigation, Xia Zhang and colleagues from University of Saskatchewan show that a potent and synthetic cannabinoid promotes neurogenesis. This drug also exerts anti-anxiety and antidepressant-like effects.

The researchers suggest that there is a positive correlation between increased adult neurogenesis and modified behavior following chronic cannabinoid treatment.

These data expand the existing knowledge about the positive roles cannabinoids and their receptors play in brain processing and medicine.

Moreover, cannabinoids are perhaps the only illicit drug that can enhance adult neurogenesis and subsequently modify behavior.

TITLE: Cannabinoid promotes embryonic and adult hippocampus neurogenesis and produces anxiolytic- and antidepression-like effects


It only makes you smarter or makes most learn knowledge easier. I think of smart as being nice and dumb as being mean. I work much better when smoking and am much more motivated.

One love
c

[GrInCh42o]

im 19 and been smoking for like 6-7 years and i origanally voted 17 but 18 would sound better to the ''unsmoking community" if cannabis was on the verge of being legalized.

[Kiai]

Ya' know, I'm gonna continue this conversation on my own and say...

What if, one day, we find out that it makes our learning process faster?

I can't imagine anyone refuting that point, for the lack of evidence points just as much in that direction as it does the other way.
well, i've been going into maths all year stoned, never listened to a word that was said. took a test (stoned) and aced it no problems...

[sim667]

18 same age as alcohol i reckons

[Bob618]

To be a right it must be in the "Best Interest of Society" and that right will be enforced by the government. Just like laws that require a person be a certain age before they can vote, purchase a handgun, enter a strip club, be served alcohol and operate a motor vehicle.
The reason is simple, if you have a right .. in exercising your right you cannot step on another's rights. Imagine if there were no restrictions....
a seven - year = old could drive a car, buy a handgun, and vote...later he could walk into a strip club and get served. If you happen to be in that strip club at that time, you may be in danger and there is nothing no one can do because there is no law prohibiting this. Yes, we need to accept restrictions if we want it to be a right within society and keep society safe from harm.

Remember: " if we expect to make a change within the system, it is from within the system that a long lasting change will occur."
If we want to legalize weed we have to legalize it to the degree the government places logical restrictions on its use.
Also note, they do not have to prove it is harmful, it is the exact opposite in fact. FDA don't just release drugs until they are proven harmful to society, it is the opposite they don't release a drug until it is proven to be safe. If you want to legalize weed you need a very large group to be part of the long term study, that was suggested. But as in all scientific studies, you must be willing to accept both possible outcomes, and live with that result too.

[UnViaje]

five just like the rest of us

[Drugman Joe]

when you want.

[Kryzco]

whatever time one is mature enough to handle the herb... could be 13 years old, could be 31 years old.

It's all about keeping herb in moderation, and not letting it take over your life.

i agree 1000%

I also don't like seeing these 10-11 year olds tokin up because they are so young and most likely doing it for all the wrong reason, and most of the time they honestly can't handle themselves while high

[BestTonicIsChronic]

Ya really if pot was legal and you could do it at ages 12 or 13 less kids would be huffing hair sparys and choking each other. Hell to think of it NO ONE would be doing that stupid shit if it was legal.

[t3h stonerer]

I'm 16, but I put 18 because most kids aren't mature enough at my age. I hate teenagers. Most people still aren't mature enough at 18 though. I hate people.

[just me]

After being a heavy smoker for 6 years and being a non smoker now and heavy cigarette smoker before, now above age 21 i'd say 18-21 to be a sensible age for smoking it, if ever.
Life had lost joy at 18 so I think consider 18 to be a responsible age.

[the joint meister]

i've bin smokin weed since i was 12 9 years ago and i would let my kids smoke ass soon as they could breath lol

[mrabrego]

I believe you should be a high school graduate or 18 yrs of age to smoke.

[LIP]

I rekon 14, because theres alot of kids who want to smoke it, and at 14, they should be able to make an adult choise. It's part of growing up.

[cannabis campbell]

Yeah 14-15

13 is too young and with cigs people dont care that the age is 16 and start smoking around 14 (well most kids) and with drinking no one cares the age is 18 everyones starts at like 15 mainly so yeah 14-15 should be the age

[smokesalot]

i live in the us and i think the 18 since that is the legal age you become an adult in most states

[E Man]

I think it should be the same as the legal drinking age. Both are mind altering drugs even though alcohol is more harmful....IMHO. Just visit the local E.R. on a Friday or Saturday night. Bar fights, drunk drivers and the damage they nleave in their wake,etc.

[chronic xx haili]

okay so im 15, ive smoked weed since i was 13, my sister is 12 and steals my weed. if the chronic was to become legal it technically should not be legal to minors, it should be the same as smoking tabacco ; now it would be great if the world lightend up, then maybe kids could be legal too but in reality 18 should be the legal age.

- take it from the kid

[SativaSoldier]

If you're old enough to go and die for your country you're certainly old enough to smoke whatever you want to smoke.

[Buggsy]

well you have to be 21 to drink in my state

what s the differnce go figure


Be good

[D.Boone]

even tho i started smokin when i was 13 id have to say 18 cause im 18 now and i see things a lil differently now cause smoking weed all thru high school was prolly the main reason i didnt graduate

[rainbows.rsexy]

21 is what nevada ballot is asking voters aprove

[beachguy in thongs]

Seventeen may be a good age. Give you a year of driving underneath your belt.

[Maniac777]

18, at this time you should have a fairly good grasp of reality.

[MasterOfTheBong]

its way more fun to smoke when youre younger than older. fact.

[Binzhoubum]

beachguy...ya' crazy...we should have to be at least 30 because that's when we get the steepest drop in Melatonin levels. Or maybe 60, because that's when we'll need it the most.

I think the legalization age should be 6-months, or whenever we discontinue breastfeeding.


LOL :smokin:

It HAS to be good for the infant...

[BuenoMota]

they should immediatley hot box the baby as soon as it leaves the womb

[BuenoMota]

I'm suprised on the amount of people that picked 18. DIdnt most of you people start smoking before 18?

[4hous2tx0]

if u can get papers, buy a lighter, and score on ur own... ur old enough to blaze

[bongsmoker]

i dont think that an age limit would work anyway. theres an age limit on tobbaco products and that doesnt stop people under 18 from smoking.

[beachguy in thongs]

i dont think that an age limit would work anyway. theres an age limit on tobbaco products and that doesnt stop people under 18 from smoking.

But, that (cigarette law) shows that it's bad for people under 18. That's what everyone learns from the get-go. You need to be 18. Just like, it's bad for Our youth to be killing their brain-cells with alcoholic drinks (to say the least).

With Pot, it's all backwards. Why keep 17 year-olds from smoking Pot, when light use has been shown to be beneficial?

-I say, we teach Our kids, in school, about Pot, at a young age. By the time they hit puberty, and their melatonin levels start declining, they'll know that smoking Marijuana heavily, while still under 21, will lower their IQ's. But, they need to know that "light-use" is good for them. Just like we teach them that milk is good for them, or, praying is good for them.

[dank ass nugs]

Yeah 14-15

13 is too young and with cigs people dont care that the age is 16 and start smoking around 14 (well most kids) and with drinking no one cares the age is 18 everyones starts at like 15 mainly so yeah 14-15 should be the age

Wow they start old i started cigs at 8, alcohol at 10, and weed at 11 and all i can say is that i was a retard but i think that 21 is best because i've seen many a life fucked over because of weed so people should have there life on track but fuck it im getting high NOW!

[Its a Plant]

Lol.

Weed is a nasty little gal, isn't she?

I think not, my new friend. People make mistakes. Not cannabis. Don't go blaming her.

And from the way you're living your life, you might die at, say, 19?

[ThatTokenWhiteGuy]

Lol.

Weed is a nasty little gal, isn't she?

I think not, my new friend. People make mistakes. Not cannabis. Don't go blaming her.

And from the way you're living your life, you might die at, say, 19?

Too true Plant. Too true.

[crudemood]

I will justify my beliefs through the illusion of medical proof.

Here's why I think restricting a child is different from restricting a race:
Race has little to no biological importance.
Age has huge biological importance.

Quit blinding yourself with the illusion that everything is an illusion and therefore doesn't matter. We may well all be a dream, nothing, or everything, I frankly don't give a damn because I won't know it for a fact until I die. Here's the deal though, death does effect people. Illusion or not. This is because the majority of people do not view it as an illusion.

If I stop my 7 year old from playing with my loaded gun, but I don't stop my 17 year old, am I ageist?

I sure hope you say no, otherwise I'm sending my 7 year old over.

You moron you're too blinded by your pseudo-intellectualism and pessimistic ignorance... you use this blindness to distort others beliefs in order to make yourself seem intelligent... its pitiful.

"But adaisychain, you're a moron too."

Uugghh, we all are, don't remind me.

lol so funny, you are my new hero.

[RedX53]

Honestly i think u should wait untill ur atleast 16, by this time u have been threw two years of highschool ur a little bit more mature and ur almost full grown. plus by this time most kids have been drinking for 2 years

[rainbows.rsexy]

it should be liquifid and given to infants in milk for their first measl all the way through death......

at least when someone turns 21 ....more pot equals less violence.......could george wahington be an idiot?

he was a renowned general

[Matches]

i think any age 12 and above is a good time to first try it out

[Zoosh]

16 and above should be fine.

[iluTaxina]

There should be no age requirement..

[SpiritLevel]

They are old enough if they can say

" twenty bag " , " hydro bud " , " Bong " , " Pipe " , " papers " , "tobacco " , " I'm Fuckt "

one or all of the above words indicates whether or not one should toke

[smokeysmoke]

18.

Just the right age for being able to make rational decisions.

[SinisterK]

I'd have to say 16, and 13 at the earliest. Thats the hard thing beause their could be a 14 year old who is more mature than a 21 year old. But yeah, atleast 13 cause thats about the age where it can't harm the brain development.

[EastStandHibby]

18 my ass.... dunno bout the legal smoking age over in the US but in UK its 16 and even then I think thats to High, I'm 15 and have been smoking since the age of 13 and Ive been through a lot of shit, at the very least I should be entitled to a smoke after a shitty day.

[beachguy in thongs]

I still think we should legalize it for everybody, and, work our way backwards, from there.

[common]

Amen, those of us who are not controlled by popular opinion should be able to choose for ourselves. "If you dont like my fire then dont come around". Conventional ideas will always yield conventional results.

[common]

I agee that to eack his own and its hard to put a number on things especially when ya got yur head rite

[common]

It sucks that we have to put a number on it, but from a legal standpoint( and i hate to look at it like that) i guess 18

[greatmuta]

18:smokin:

[Blunt420]

I started smoking pot when i was 12, and i turned out fine.:stoned:

[Dirty D]

what the hell? a certain age to smoke weed... thats fuckin ridiculus

[whydoyoucare]

there should not be an age limit, start smoking when u feel like it...

ofcourse 6 moths is too young, since I do not belive that such young lungs can handle it, but when a "kid" starts smoking pot should be 100% up to the parents, the government shouldnt intervene or some BS like that.....

besides... its good if the "kids" know pot before they are totally "Free"... cuz like somebody said theyll go crazy...



pot rocks :D

awesome way to put it man

[mistyganjatree]

obviously it would be wrong of us to classify cannabis as any less dangerous or harmfull than alcohol{laughs} so eighteen is the age of concent for most things nowadays! although it wont make any diference to them that want to smoke young! sensible people should finish there schooling first! ,,,,,,,,,,if ya not soo sensible {like me!} ya can learn to grow weed instead!,,lol

[intrepidus6]

Cannibus can't hurt your health, so what is the point of an age restriction other than to make it all "you can't do this but I can!"?

[mmm reefer]

18 years of age.

[MastaChronic]

16, but any age should be fine, i started when i was 7 and it hasnt me no.....uh what was i saying? lol :p

[CheebaMan]

16 is the age where u start figuring out who u really are, wanting to experiment with shit

[DylanN89]

well actually CheebaMan i started at 14...soo i think it hsould be 18... but make it like tobacco/ only illegal if u sell it to minors but minors can smoke if they can get it? summtin like that

[yochrono]

For sure at least 18 years of age.

[SCALES]

It's impossible man,
It is illegal for damn near everybody, so it is WRONG weather you start smokin at 11 or the magic number, 18.
In my opinion, however old you are, when you first make the decision to smoke, is the perfect age.

[pwn3dy0]

i will go with 18.

[TheSmokingMonkey]

I voted 16 but in reality I think that it could be handled responsibly at any age - it's just that I think people need to be emotionally mature before they can be trusted with any drug. So the majority would need to be a little older, but if somebody wants to give their 12 year old a J then it's none of my business - it's their responsibility to protect their kid.

[DopeBOYmagic]

Shit son started smoking the summer after 6th grade.......i was going on 13 and december and my big bro introduced a joint to me................he let me smoke it myself i had cigs before so i knew how to smoke but the burn killed me lol im 17 now been through many many a blunt and bowl and still going strong i got hardcore into liquor last year but fuck that shit got me into way to much trouble id rather just smoke n stay happy

[Jacop]

im the sticker ninja so i say there will be no age limit after phase 0 laws are inacted for the uncontrolled substance act.
why? because im cool. Plus it doesnt matter what age you are, cannabis can help you be healthy no matter what.

[Kilo0192]

I started at 8 and still do to this day well right now but yeah screw age. If you can choose to do it you are old enough plus the younger the more likely not to like the feeling/coughing.

[trem0lo]

If it's legalized, the age will most likely be 21, like alcohol. At least it'll be a step in the right direction!

[Dutch Masta]

16. But it doesent even matter. The minute one steps into a high school they are able to find weed in abundance.

[UTD Toker]

i think 19 is more than fair for a couple of reasons:

1.) i think that its just wrong for high school kids under 18 that smoke cannabis everyday is just wrong, because its the most important time in your life and its too risky to risk dropping out because smoking everyday will usually make you lazy.

2.) if you can fuckin die for fucking bush overseas and smoke a cancer stick, you should simply be able to smoke weed nough said :thumbsup:

3.) 19 seems to be a happy medium because your more than responsible and 99% of 19 yr. olds are out of high school!!!


Just my personal opinion based on past experiences :dance:

[upnsmk]

i think that any age should be able to smoke it. but i do think that 14 and older would be better cause i really wouldnt care if my kids smoked when they where 14 but any younger and i wouldnt be to suportive

[harris7]

I think it is interesting how the answers are quantized to 16 18 and 21.
Even though we all know these are arbitrary numbers we conform to what the governments have told us. They tell us that particular ages are Volta’s in our lives.

I think this answer shouldn’t be opinion. It should be based on fact!
does cannabis change brain development? most drugs do
if so what age does it stop? I would think this is a good age.

shit like that, i think, is more important than opinion

I also dont think that we can leave it up for people to decide their age. Young people do not have full reasoning abilities. so they literally are not properly equipped to make the decision

[KottonMouthKid]

I think it is interesting how the answers are quantized to 16 18 and 21.
Even though we all know these are arbitrary numbers we conform to what the governments have told us. They tell us that particular ages are Voltaâ??s in our lives.

I think this answer shouldnâ??t be opinion. It should be based on fact!
does cannabis change brain development? most drugs do
if so what age does it stop? I would think this is a good age.

shit like that, i think, is more important than opinion

I also dont think that we can leave it up for people to decide their age. Young people do not have full reasoning abilities. so they literally are not properly equipped to make the decision

I started toking at 11, so I don't completly agree with this.

I'm now 14, but dont judge by this until you read on.

I do not think that starting young really hurt me.

I have always been old for my age.

At 14 I own a sucessful clothing label, and am a freelance web and graphic desginer.

I think that age really shouldn't matter. Expecially because I'm more then positive that most of you would deem me capable of making the decision to smoke or not. I think that you should apply for a lisence of some sort and then take a test of sme sort to check maturaty levels.

[harris7]

well you really cant tell if somthing changed your brain development.
unless it is very sever.

[shovlboy]

Give it you greedy people. why should there be any age limit? thats being greedy. even if we went with the majority and said you had to be 18 i would still be able to man. but you need let everyone smoke it man! not just the chosen ones!

hahahahahahaahhahahaha The Chosen Ones.

[mfqr]

I think it should be 18, considering Tobacco is bad for you and you need to be 18 to smoke it/buy it. Cannabis is much less harmful, does more for you... and should have an age-limit of 18.

[ValkyrieAg]

Well, I guess 18 I could go for.....if you are old enough to die for your country, you are old enough to smoke pot.

HOWEVER, I would set the age at 21. I don't want to see stoned 18 year olds on the road. I also don't want to see stoned high school kids. I waited until I was in college to become a pothead.....yes, im a pothead, but at least im in college. I've seen what pot does to kids....it limits their potential. I can easily tell it limits my potential.

[harris7]

Well you can't really see that it limits others

it is a corrolation, and you are assuming causation

it could be that kids with limited futures, say because of poverty
choose to smoke weed.
so all the stoners seem limited to an observer

[ValkyrieAg]

So you are saying that pot doesn't make you lazy? you are energized and not late anywhere? Next time you get high, talk to yourself, and note how idiotic you sound. I used to do alot of public speaking....I could never do it now because of the short term effects. I can be stone cold sober, but it takes a little more for me to focus and concentrate.

I saw alot of stoners in high school go NOWHERE. Don't kid yourself.

[mfqr]

Well, I guess 18 I could go for.....if you are old enough to die for your country, you are old enough to smoke pot.

HOWEVER, I would set the age at 21. I don't want to see stoned 18 year olds on the road. I also don't want to see stoned high school kids. I waited until I was in college to become a pothead.....yes, im a pothead, but at least im in college. I've seen what pot does to kids....it limits their potential. I can easily tell it limits my potential.

For most people, college starts when they are 18. It did for me at least. when you're 18 you're legally an adult in the US, so i think it should be legal for 18 year olds and above. anything lower, nah. but 18 is the age when you can kill your lungs with tobacco smoke, so why can't you smoke pot? pot is better for you, too.

[Pezzo]

tobacco - 16, MJ -16

[mfqr]

tobacco - 16, MJ -16

Well, in Germany you can drink at 16, and smoke cigs at 16... so maybe 16 isn't such a bad age. But I doubt that would ever happen, if it got legalized. I'm saying that if the US ever does, the age would be 18 or 21. Maybe 19. I actually think 19 would be the best age. 21 is too fucking old. I'm 19, and it's taking way too long to become 21 :( , so I can buy liquor legally!

[Pezzo]

lol im not fkin waitin till 21, id still do it illegaly

[harris7]

^^yea 21 is so old for drinking too. it's like your party times are half over. by that time people are almost ready to get real jobs and shit.




So you are saying that pot doesn't make you lazy? you are energized and not late anywhere? Next time you get high, talk to yourself, and note how idiotic you sound. I used to do alot of public speaking....I could never do it now because of the short term effects. I can be stone cold sober, but it takes a little more for me to focus and concentrate.
I saw alot of stoners in high school go NOWHERE. Don't kid yourself.

I agree i've seen many stoners go nowhere. All i'm saying is that you are assuming that they are going nowhere because of the weed. As in a causal relationship. This is the same argument the DEA uses and it is wrong.

these people probably would have go nowhere without the weed. no one can know.

I never said bud dosn't makes you lazy.

as well you might be surprised how many stoners (as in blaze everyday) go to top universities. I have found a way higher percent of people blaze in the dorms than anyone would have thought

[Pezzo]

I agree i've seen many stoners go nowhere. All i'm saying is that you are assuming that they are going nowhere because of the weed. As in a causal relationship. This is the same argument the DEA uses and it is wrong.

these people probably would have go nowhere without the weed. no one can know.

I never said bud dosn't makes you lazy.

as well you might be surprised how many stoners (as in blaze everyday) go to top universities. I have found a way higher percent of people blaze in the dorms than anyone would have thought

Sativa makes u energetic n all.

I would have gone nowhere without weed, im still gunna go nowhere, its not the weed its the person

I am against life because the government has fucked it up, I have reached the edge and cannabis is whats keepin me from fallin off!

[Pezzo]

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?p=1114337&posted=1#post1114337
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Nice one! keep postin it m8

[delusionsofNORMALity]

speaking legally-

why should any governmental agency be allowed to control what a person does to his or herself at any age. that sounds like a personal and family matter to me.
speaking morally-

how can anyone judge when another person is capable of making an informed decision, it will be different ages for different people. once again, that sounds like a personal and family matter to me.

[OniEhtRedrum781]

16 years old, because by then, they can think for themselves and do research and get the facts...

[harris7]

Well, in Germany you can drink at 16, and smoke cigs at 16... so maybe 16 isn't such a bad age. But I doubt that would ever happen, if it got legalized. I'm saying that if the US ever does, the age would be 18 or 21. Maybe 19. I actually think 19 would be the best age. 21 is too fucking old. I'm 19, and it's taking way too long to become 21 :( , so I can buy liquor legally!I germany having the drinking age at 16 works, why? Well the culture is very different there.

If the US or Canada changed tomorrow the drinking are to 16 I donâ??t tink it would work out well.

In the US itâ??s like b4 your 21 drinking is a sin. In germany kids grow up to respect alcohol and many consume it on a regular basis with their family. So itâ??s not the forbidden fruit. This approach has created people who when they are 16 are able to accept the responsibilities of drinking and enjoy the benefits.

The current north American approach donâ??tâ?? create such individuals.
Currently

[Pezzo]

^^^ ye, but i respect all drugs i take and use their effects kinda wisely, probaly coz i dont have a lot and its too fukin expensive lol

[RedLocks]

were it to be legalized in the US, I would expect nothing more than same age as alcohol is in the states, 21. (of course it should differ from country to country depending on legal ages, and be set at the age for hard liqueur in the countries that have a beer age then a liqueur age) Anything younger is asking too much. Putting it as same age as cigarettes doesn't make sense, unless you are a kid and you want to be able to smoke, cigarettes aren't really a mood altering substance, so the guideline should be set the age limit same as the only other intoxicating substance that is legal.

Saying there shouldn't be a age limit is just being totally unrealistic and I am pretty sure people that answer that are either not responsible tokers, are teenagers or will never do their part in the fight for legalization besides sit around smoking spliffs with their friends saying man, it would be so cool if pot were legal. Action speaks louder than words, do your part, and be realistic about things!

[good ol daze]

18. Even tho I was 20 when I first tried it. I imagine someone here has already mentioned, the old saying...if you can fight and die in a war at 18, you should be able to ____. (fill in the blank with almost anything)

[Mr.Jesus]

prolly 17 or 18 even though im 14.. but im not gonna say 14 just because of that..

[aekdb]

why are you talking to yourself???


beachguy...ya' crazy...we should have to be at least 30 because that's when we get the steepest drop in Melatonin levels. Or maybe 60, because that's when we'll need it the most.

I think the legalization age should be 6-months, or whenever we discontinue breastfeeding.

[aekdb]

IMO, no 13 year old is 'mature' enough to handle pot. Did i 1st use it when i was under age? Sure, was it wrong? Yeah, i think so. Did it harm me? I dont know.

I keep hearing how 'mature' some of the young people here are, but to be honest, as an adult, i dont see a lot of it...Sorry kids, but you shouldnt have the choice when you are a child. I know im probably the most hated man on the board now, but thats fine.

18 years is my Vote
whatever time one is mature enough to handle the herb... could be 13 years old, could be 31 years old.

It's all about keeping herb in moderation, and not letting it take over your life.

[aekdb]

What is he now? A brain surgeon?:D
My dealers been smokin' MJ since he was 9, lol

[mfqr]

Nicotine is a mood altering substance. I smoke cigarettes, and if I don't have one, I'm grumpy. It is also mind altering, as in it alters your brain chemistry. Actually, I should say it's brain altering. Mind altering like Marijuana? no. Worse than Marijuana? definitely. Why should I not be able to consume Cannabis if I can legally increase the risk of myself getting cancer greatly? Cannabis puts you in an altered state of mind, but at least it's not nearly as harmful as tobacco/nicotine. Why shouldn't an 18 year old be able to drink a beer too? It's silly. All laws against controlled substances are bullshit, really. I am not condoning the use of crack, and meth, etc, but the laws really do nothing. If someone wants something, they will get it... regardless of age. But if Cannabis were legalized, 18 or 19 would definitely be a fair age. At 18 one is legally an adult. Why should 18 year olds not be treated like adults too? 18 year olds are just as liable for committing a crime as a 21 year old, so why should the age be 21? An 18 year old could go to prison for 5 years, just as a 21 year old could be. Do you see what I am saying? As maturity goes, 21 is not a big step. I think 18 and 21 year olds, in general, would treat it the same. I've seen crazy parties involving 21 year olds, so what makes them so much more responsible with mind tering substances? Really, though... 18 is the legal adult age in the US.

17 is a bit too young, because 17 year olds are still in high school usually, and that could condone the use of it while in high school. That would be pretty sad if someone legally went to high school stoned every day, and didn't learn a damn thing.

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

I keep hearing how 'mature' some of the young people here are, but to be honest, as an adult, i dont see a lot of it...Sorry kids, but you shouldnt have the choice when you are a child. I know im probably the most hated man on the board now, but thats fine.

You and me both!!

Just look through the lounge and all the stupid shit they talk about, then try telling me that kids are mature.

[aekdb]

things talked about, use of language some spelling (im not talking about typos), knowledge of issues, etc...


You and me both!!

Just look through the lounge and all the stupid shit they talk about, then try telling me that kids are mature.

[Inferius]

I just wrote about a pages worth on this topic.

But I realized it doesn't matter.

It's a personal choice, and from the looks of it, it seems like young people will be able to make that choice even easier in the future.

Personally, I fail to see the logic of teens going to parties and ending up in the ER for alcohol poisoning, when they could of just smoked a joint and discussed philosophy.

Or taking copious amounts of mom's painkillers becuase their boyfriend just dumped them, when they could of just sat down with the folks, had a cry, and then lit the peace pipe for a relaxing dinner.

Teens are idiots. But is that their fault? NO. It's socieities fault. For not educating them correctly, advising them correctly, or just simply genetics...

enough rant.
18's a good age anyway. Probably be easier not to get carded...

[aekdb]

Um, its not society, its the parents. Its not societies job to raise children its the parents.
I But is that their fault? NO. It's socieities fault. For not educating them correctly, advising them correctly,

[Inferius]

Um, its not society, its the parents. Its not societies job to raise children its the parents.

I'm not talking about raising children in general.

Society/government/idiots sling lies to manipulate children. Those children grow up and have kids. Is it the adults fault that they too were misguided and illadvised on the subjects of drugs, that they in turn misguide their own children? No. It's the deceiver who deceived the children who in turn had children and became parents.

We have the internet now, which is changing society a LOT, but before this illuminating invention, could you really blame the parents for accepting truth told to them by a government whose rules and codes they have to abide by?

[aekdb]

blah, blah blah...peole need to wake up and quit relying on the GVT for anything. Quit blaming the govt for everything.
DOnt blame society for the ills of the world then worship MTV...

Ill be honest, the more liberal society has become, the more fucked up its become...

blame MTV


I'm not talking about raising children in general.

Society/government/idiots sling lies to manipulate children. Those children grow up and have kids. Is it the adults fault that they too were misguided and illadvised on the subjects of drugs, that they in turn misguide their own children? No. It's the deceiver who deceived the children who in turn had children and became parents.

We have the internet now, which is changing society a LOT, but before this illuminating invention, could you really blame the parents for accepting truth told to them by a government whose rules and codes they have to abide by?

[CityBoyGoneCountry]

Teens are idiots. But is that their fault? NO. It's socieities fault. For not educating them correctly, advising them correctly, or just simply genetics...

It's nobody's fault. It's just the cycle of life. We are born without knowledge. We acquire knowledge through living and experiencing and learning. We learn more everyday. The longer you have lived and experienced, the more you have learned.

Teens do not yet understand this cycle. They think they have already learned all there is to learn. But they will learn more, and by then they will no longer be teens.

[Inferius]

It's that obvious is it??
:D

[herostyle]

16 to consume in my opinion. You should be mature enough to handle it.

[hempplaya]

little late but figured i would add my opinion...18. if you can kill yourself with cigarettes you should be able to smoke the good old cannabis that is so much better :)

[Sm0ker Steve]

I think if cannabis was legilezed then i think it shud b 16 same as normal smoking

[dutch.lover]

I said 18. My reasoning behind that decision is because at the age of 18 I think most people have enough sense in them to make informed decisions about things. Younger people often do drugs or the like because it's 'cool' or because all their friends do it, etc.

[secretgarden]

where i live it's 21 to drink 18 to smoke cigs and 16 to drive. But as early as 17 you can join the army and risk your life. so to me it should be 17 to smoke cannabis and drink. if you can risk your life in the armed forces then by god give that man or woman a beer and joint!!

[cannabis=freedom]

Have I posted in this thread before?

I think age isn't an issue. I think level of maturity is the key.

I absolutely agree. I'm sixteen, and have been smoking cannabis for approximately six months. I started because while previously I had always believed the government lies and agreed with their stance that all drugs were bad, I then did some research and discovered that there was a lot more grey than I had always been taught. Some people are mature enough to handle ganja at fourteen, and some people are twenty-two and not ready for it. Age is entirely subjective and reliant on the individual, not a generalization. Many would consider sixteen too young to be smoking it, but I do so, very frequently, and I get As and Bs in school and in my spare time write, philosophize, and study politics and what I can do about it. So much for stereotypes.

[cannabis=freedom]

You know, I've been hearing quite a bit of discrimination against teenagers here, and frankly, I don't like it. Not that anybody would take my views seriously, since I'm simply a piece-of-shit 16-year-old who doesn't know what the hell he's talking about, right? Hell, a lot of teens are dumb, I'll grant you that, but I'm far more intelligent than my grandfather, who is extremely narrow-minded and doesn't have a clue about anything. The same applies in many cases. There is currently a movement underway for an increase in the individual freedom of adults, but no one seems to care two bits about the rights of youth. To say that teens are immature is true in many cases, but it is a generalization with many exceptions, and laws based on generalizations are bullshit. Why don't we make it illegal for Irishmen to drink, because everyone knows they're going to become an alcoholic, right? See what I'm saying? I'll turn 21 on September 26, 2011, and according to many of your views I will remain far too immature to smoke pot up until September 25, 2011, 11:59 p.m. Then at the stroke of midnight I will magically become the proper age to smoke.

[xfukinxfedxupx]

13 because thats when most of lifes stresses are there with high school and puberty an everythin u can get quite depressed, i no i did an thats when yor parents can control ur use and they can teach u when ur young

[Pezzo]

Its legal to smoke in ur own home, its also legal to carry up to an eighth if ur 18, its also legal to grow hemp!

Fukin legalise it man, so much easier and sociable

[BigWeed]

Im not going to give a long winded reply but I think 16 is a good number. Thats the age I was when I tried it. Itll give that person or persons time to think if they want to continue smoking pot or just not to. Me I love it and I dont see anything wrong with it.

[harris7]

blah, blah blah...peole need to wake up and quit relying on the GVT for anything. Quit blaming the govt for everything.
DOnt blame society for the ills of the world then worship MTV...

Ill be honest, the more liberal society has become, the more fucked up its become...

blame MTV

The government especially in the united states is highly responsible for the problems of your country. So are the corporations

I would say itâ??s mainly the lack of control over corporations has done this to your society.
I hope we all accept their control over government, lets not debate that.

Most citizens are drones. They have their goals, ie, to have a happy family. And people use these desires to manipulate the population for their own benefit. You can hardly blame it on the individual citizens when you look at the history.

First they cut back education, 20 years later you have a population who cant defend their minds; makes it easy to trick them into going to war or buy your products


One of the reasons the US is so militarized.

â??when something [war] becomes this profitable, your going to see a lot more of itâ?�

[lazy smoker7]

nope there shouldent be any age at all... if your heart desiers to smoke weed like mine did at 11 then go ahead and smoke weed and no one has the right to tell you otherwise because it your own life born with free will simple as that. I mean if your heart desieres killing ppl or doing crack etc.. then yes I reccomend not doing what your heart desieres at all.... but if the gov wants to put control over buying it then I would say 18 just to go along with everything else nowadays being 18 but i believe there shouldent be any age limit at all. but there should be no penalty if any one under that age smokes it..

[Pezzo]

^^^ that post sounds resonable

[GRB.4.Life]

nope there shouldent be any age at all... if your heart desiers to smoke weed like mine did at 11 then go ahead and smoke weed and no one has the right to tell you otherwise because it your own life born with free will simple as that. I mean if your heart desieres killing ppl or doing crack etc.. then yes I reccomend not doing what your heart desieres at all.... but if the gov wants to put control over buying it then I would say 18 just to go along with everything else nowadays being 18 but i believe there shouldent be any age limit at all. but there should be no penalty if any one under that age smokes it..

I whole heartedly agree. I was 11yrs old when I started as well.

But the government will ALWAYS try to govern everything and anything they can. So I think that 18yrs of age would be righteous simply because of the fact that in the US you can purchase deadly substances, such as tobacco, at that age. Not to mention you can purchase any kind of OTC drug at the age of 18 as well.

Personally I don't understand why Cannabis is even considered an illegal substance anywhere. As long as there are restrictions in place I think it should be completely tolerated and decriminalized everywhere.

Alcohol and tobacco both have worse reputations for death, birth defects, pollution and the list goes on, than Cannabis EVER has...I just don't get it.

The only sense I've ever been able to make out of it is that because the substance is so readily available and easy to self-produce that they cannot make money off of it. Unlike tobacco and alcohol.

Why is the US in such a deficit? Well, think about the millions of dollars that are confiscated every WEEK from drug busts. Do you honestly think all that unlawful money is going to go back into the peoples pockets? Hell no. It goes into the agencies pockets. And do you think that the drugs confiscated from the scenes are being completely destroyed? Hell no. It goes back out on the street to regain its value and the circle begins again...

If they were to legalize Cannabis, I think that they would lose a lot of "tips" as I like to consider it...

[santa]

does very much depend on the person.. but... im thinkin 16 really.. :jointsmile:

[illuminati]

The teen in me says 18.

The adult in me says 21.

The EDUCATED person in me says 25.

feedback?

[fishman3811]

at least 18

[Inferius]

I don't care what age they make it, as long as the penalties for using it underage are extremely lenient. Like a 30 dollar ticket, no matter how many times you get caught and it never goes on your record.

[MrNiceGuy420]

thatd be so sweet if when its made legal they made the legal age at 16 long as you get good grades and youd have to have on your lisence your gpa or somemthing....i doubt it would be though..probably 18

[Xhoshi]

i really feel that 16 is a good age because that is when it helped me out the most by setting me straight rather than making me unmotivated and shit, but alot of kids i knew used it irresponsibly and fucked their grades over...thus i believe 18 is perfect age for all.

[AlbinoRhino421]

it should be the same as for smoking tobacco, 18

[Metaphor]

when you have pubes.

[oldsanclem]

18.

crouch rockets are one of the largest doners of human parts.
Ask any emergency room people, its a sad thing.
crouch rocket = motor cycles

[thecreator]

I guess I'm a fuddy duddy bc I think you should at least be in high school b4 you make a choice of such monumental per portions.

[c of green]

mature is the proper "age".It is different for everyone.generally though,i would say 16+,

[Buddha Man]

Give it you greedy people. why should there be any age limit? thats being greedy. even if we went with the majority and said you had to be 18 i would still be able to man. but you need let everyone smoke it man! not just the chosen ones!


i agree fully. i picked "any age". well maybe not as young as 5...but 6 is a good year to start :jointsmile:

[Nailhead]

Look at countries where they have no age limit for alcohol, they don't have nearly as many problems as we have in the US alcohol abuse. I think it would be best to not have any age limit on marijuana, or alcohol and tobacco. Of course I know that will never happen in the US, not with the mentality voters have here, so I put 16 simply because I know most people start at around that age so it only makes sense to set a limit at that range.

I think any older and you would create the same problems of abuse that we have with tobacco and alcohol because parents don't want to talk about it, they just say "wait till you are old enough". It's sad how so many parents won't talk to their kids about these things and just point to the laws and tell them to wait, as if that is really going to stop them!

**Edit** Opps, I'm an idiot and didn't see the "Any age limit" choice...lol sorry

[meds02093]

Buy at 16 with ID card confirmation ONLY or otherwise no sale.. buy at 18 and over too but also with ID check to make sure the country goes well with no probs :)

[Venhico]

two big things to consider:
1. legaslation isn't going to want to pass eomthing that says an uborn fetus can smoke pot, so they will want someting similiar to the alcohol laws like 18-21
2. peoples lives(most peoples lives) start to take off around 18 or so, getting out of highschool and going to college and/or getting a job, and gaining freedom and what not, that should be the age when you can decide what you put in your body and what you don't
like i'm not sure how this would work out but as soon as you enroll in a college or get a job you can then get you cannabis licsense and smoke the herb or something like that i don't know but it's a complicated issue

[hempplaya]

hmmm cigarettes are 18 so i'll go with 15/16 on cannabis :)

[shells5609]

I think it would be best when you are mature enough to be responsible for what you do and take the correct safety measures to smoke for me it was just this year. I now that when I am high I do not want to do stupid shit, but for others aka my friends I do not think they will ever be mature enough, but they have grown up some. So whether that is when 14 or 45 then whatever, but I surely do not think little two year olds should be running around smoking a blunt or getting shotguns lol

[AnonKilla]

When they are mature and responsible enough.

[Exodus_herbman]

Responsibility is the key, I started when I was 13, and have seen no decrease in memory capability. I didn't have a good perception of consequences though, so I would have to say 15-16 years old, but there are always exceptions based on maturity and whatnot.

[Jimbob1310]

started when i was 15....

[DaPolarBear]

I think 12, as I started at 12.

[JMRinFLA]

Even though I started at 14 I voted for 16 since I think the added maturity that comes in those 2 years is important. I think It will be easier to talk to my kids and have them understand that there's responsibility that goes with having the privelege to toke.

[thewazzle]

Kids should not be smoking pot. I tried smoking when I was younger, but never really got into it. I became a smoker in college, where i also became a heavy drinker. But i was old enough and responsible enough to know when I could get high and when it was probably not the best idea. I didn't go to work high, and i only went to one class high regularly. (it was my film class). 18 is a good age. You can go to war you should be able to smoke some weed.

[KingsBlend420]

I believe that kids should be able to smoke pot once they are 18 years old, with age comes responsibility. The majority of kids that are 18 are going away to college and starting to live on their own, so why not let them be responsible for their choice of smoking marijuana? At age 18 most children have also stopped Puberty so there is no way that marijuana could alter them in any way.