How safe is this BOARD? Am I paranoid..

[SeedKing72]

This is kind of a stupid question.. But is there anyway the LAW could use this board against us.. I mean we post pics, I even see people post their email address and if you think Yahoo mail is really safe you would be fooling yourself. Now I could be paranoid, and its not like I am growing tons to sell.... but if I could get your IP address, which the webserver this is sitting on could easily do, I could probably find out your ISP, and if I had the law on my side, I could probably get some info from them.. now this all sounds kinda crazy and I hope I am being stupid, but if we were using this board to commit terrorist activities, I gurantee they would find a way to get to us.. What are the failsafes of this board, hopefully the server is in a MJ friendly country..I am not saying this is all fact.. I am just wondering.. with my paranoid mind..

[AngryJohnny]

:eek:

its everywhere!

[SeedKing72]

This helps a little: http://www.marihemp.com/privacy/

[jimmybobjoe]

That is completly crazy and i just burned my one and only plant. I am not taking any chances. I cant believe that users information isn't safeguarded better than that. I also took down my lights and will be mounting them in the garage for more light for my work bench. This will also be my last post. Goodluck to all of you who decide to take a chance.

[SeedKing72]

They really don't have that much info. I gave nothing but my yahoo account, and I would have rather not gave them that, all the info on my yahoo account is fake too. Perhaps were being a little paranoid, but hey anything could happen

[arathi]

If youre all so paranoid about using a forum.

I suggest its time to create a HUSHMAIL.com account and quit whining for these boards are ment to help and serve you. Do not talk down to the forum for it could bit ya in the ass for non of us are narcs.

[SeedKing72]

I hear ya, but I am not talking down the board.. I am just asking questions, no one is whining.. just wondering.. It never hurts to have dialouge.. I love this board. if you notice my # of post, but its always safe... Thanks for the hushmail idea.. I will look into that..

[arathi]

If ya aint talkn down to the board, theres no need for this thread asking if this forum is unsafe.

If youre using the PROPER shit , you will always be safe.

-Mind over matter.

[SeedKing72]

Okay, you see this is the information we need, what is the proper shit? Dude I'm not trying to be a jerk, I am just trying to do everything I can possibly do to be safe.. Thats all.. It never hurts to ask a question.. NEVER...

[SeedKing72]

Interesting article, http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,83564,00.asp

I think you should atleast have NOT use Yahoo or Hotmail

[Garden Knowm]

Well, is there any documented or rumored busts that resulted from posting on this board, or any board?

[SeedKing72]

No, None that I have ever heard of.. I almost wish I wouldnt have asked the question.. But we smoke weed, we are supposed to be paranoid... I just want to follow all the steps I can.. thats all.. NO DISRESPECT MEANT TO THIS BOARD.. but people would be lying if you said they never thought the same thing...I hope I havent stirred up a hornets nest..

[Garden Knowm]

nest is stirred.. LOL
but don't trip, nobody's mad....



: )

[dingobaby]

At least it's not crack! Thats what they should be going after anyway. Marijuana is not a gateway drug, and it helps me with a lot. Bill hicks put it perfect when he talked about people getting in fights while they were high. Move the war on drugs on meth already, I live in a town full of these lying, stealing, shitty ass parent, fuck heads. I would much rather have my kids go to school with a bunch of pot heads then crack heads.

[SeedKing72]

Yeah, I smoked like every day.. and I never wanted to do crack.. That gateway drug shit is just propoganda... It kills me they worry about a natural occuring weed and Cigs and Liq kill way more people.. Just stupid..

[HARDDON]

This subject has been broached here previously.

The bottom line is...no matter who you are, where you are, whom you are posting as, where you are posting from cannot and never will be completely anonymous.

The internet was designed by the DOD for this very purpose.

Eventually, all posts lead back to the address where the IP is at.

You cannot get around that no matter how slick you try to be.

Seedking was not talking down this board, he was simply asking a question that every single person here asks themselves at one point or another...and if they don't then they probably have other issues in life.

These things being true....

You can use the anonymyzer available at

www.steganos.com and this will make it a whole hell of a lot of shitload of work for anyone trying to track you down.

Is your grow big and huge and do you look like you are doing some serious growing for re-sale or shipping?

Is your grow two or three fricking plants?

Does your local force have the resources to chase you down cuz you;re growing a couple of shitty looking tomato plants?

I can assure you right now, over 75% of resources are being committed to the meth problem raging across the country because of the dumb hillbilly fucks who make and smoke it.

We should thank them for taking the heat off of the real growers.

If they want you bad enuff they will get you.

The question remains, is your grow worth their while?

Headlines like:

"LOCAL COPS BUST LOCAL GROWER AND GET HIS TWO PLANTS" don't make much for newspaper sales and budget rewards in the narc department next year :)

You need to choose your own destiny.

When you think about it, it is pretty fucking stupid to post pics on the net...especially if you dont have any problems with them .....ROFLMAO :)

But hey...we're fricking stoners. We're under the influence of this insidious drug....we are compeltely crazy and therefore are not responsible for our actions.

Add to that the pshychosis, paranoia, delusional fantasies, borderline schitzo and anti social deviance make me take zoloft and xanax and this and that and fuck when its all said and done, I can barely remember my fricking name!

So who wants to get me for my 3 LST that I'll prolly fuck up and my hugely failurous SOG....??????

I think they have better bears to hunt than us tomato farmers who grow a couple of plants in a garage closet :)

[SeedKing72]

HARRDON That was Perfect....THANK YOU.. I am not just a stoner, I have a DEGREE in Computer Science and have several Certifications in certain tehnologies.. I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH A COMPUTER.. and TRUST ME People, if they really wanted to find you they could... TRUST ME ON THIS.. HARDDON is right.. I am not being paranoid.. the technology exist...It just aint worth their time to bust a couple of stoners, they want the big score....and your local cops just aint worried about you and your little garden..... They want the Kilos and pounds...

Think about this, HOW fast microsoft find people who writes Viruses.. These people are sitting in some country in old Russia, and these guys are EXPERT programmers.. They do everything they can to prevent from getting caught, and no one care about them until they bring down systems costing companies millions of dollars..Then all of the sudden BAM, they get them... Because Microsoft/Oracle/Cisco/Whoever gets involved and they trace it back somehow.. (loose lips,IP trace, LT Data from star trek, somehow)

Im not trying to be a jerk, I just was wondering.. because I see people showing Hydro Systems with over a hundred plants, and is the USA that would get you busted big time.. I just wanted to know what can I do to protect myself.. just like I want to know what strain should I grow, what light should I use.. it was SIMPLE dialouge.. I LOVE THIS BOARD.. and you would know by my post, I am always agreeable.. I always give props where props is due, I always say to people Perhaps you should do this but Im not an expert.. I always do some research, I always try to help Newbies with the same questions I asked.. I realize people are gonna ask the same ole dumb questions over and over.. just like I did, and just like everyone else did when they got started... BUT I DID LEARN TO USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION.. I LEARNED THAT THE HARD way when I first started, so many people were like you idiot that has allready been asked.. EXCUSE ME..

[seedbare]

This is kind of a stupid question.. But is there anyway the LAW could use this board against us.. I mean we post pics, I even see people post their email address and if you think Yahoo mail is really safe you would be fooling yourself. Now I could be paranoid, and its not like I am growing tons to sell.... but if I could get your IP address, which the webserver this is sitting on could easily do, I could probably find out your ISP, and if I had the law on my side, I could probably get some info from them.. now this all sounds kinda crazy and I hope I am being stupid, but if we were using this board to commit terrorist activities, I gurantee they would find a way to get to us.. What are the failsafes of this board, hopefully the server is in a MJ friendly country..I am not saying this is all fact.. I am just wondering.. with my paranoid mind..


everything said here is true.
.com & .net are from the united states, and yes u have admitted to crimes in writting. they wont bust unless they smell it from your car window.

[SeedKing72]

Thank GOD for meth (not really) They are more worried about THAT now... I aint never knew anyone who lost their teeth and scratched for bugs under their skin on good ole mary jane.. God put that weed here for you and me...ITS FROM THE EARTH!!!

[HARDDON]

That is completly crazy and i just burned my one and only plant. I am not taking any chances. I cant believe that users information isn't safeguarded better than that. I also took down my lights and will be mounting them in the garage for more light for my work bench. This will also be my last post. Goodluck to all of you who decide to take a chance.


Sure you burned you one and only plant.

Sure you are gonna use your lights for the workbench.

Sure :)

C'mon back JamesRobertJoseph.....no one is gonna be after your forest :)

[HARDDON]

and yes u have admitted to crimes in writting.

No, I haven;t.

Someone from this IP has.

Fucking wife. Criminal little bitch :)

Someones been a baaaaaaad little girlie :)

Oh....maybe it was the maid.

The most this board could get is a probable cause to conduct surveillance.

Besides, we dont grow weed. We grow toamtoes.

All the pics I post are from some other web site that I steal and post and take credit for... :D

[seedbare]

hee hee, its the kid dammit the kid.

[AngryJohnny]

guess thats what get for leavin my wifi open....... :eek:

wasn't me.... :confused:

[Rezinator]

Yeah, see?

And H's wife and his maid just come here and swear a lot and pose under the shade of some real Harddon's humongous schlong, see, which he doesn't give them half enough of often enough; so just his luck, the wife and maid happened to be a little pissy the day they opened this account for purposes of advancing their SOG empire.

Seriously like H said though, use of a proxy server is a good idea.

They aren't airtight. But they are another layer of defense against the few goober-headed, old-school LE peeps who do end up in that profession. These days those types are more of an embarassment to those dedicated to peace keeping.

I have a friend whose retail source for weed was for the most part a wholesaler who had the area locked up supply-wise. He was unmistakably ignored (tolerated) by local LE, both town, county, who were more practical than mickey mouse. His source successfully ran a completely unrelated commnunity business. LE regularly patronized the biz with no ulterior interest or motive to bust him. It was a quiet, crime free small town and he didn't sell to kids. He didn't sell other shit. And he treated buyers fairly.

These days I think all ya gutta do is put up enough layers of defense so you it doesn't look like you are daring them to investigate you.

Well, that. Plus fuck the maid often enough to keep her jets cooled....lol.

But like H is inferring there, when LE looks at sites like this for the pics - if they do - they have to be saying to each other - yeah but how stupid will we look in court when his lawyer points out the pictures were something he ripped off from another site. Excellent point, H.

Indulging me further here, I think LE individuals have to watch their backs just the same. Some of their older, and straight jockish younger colleagues check them out under a microscope on every matter of allegiance, straighness. Majority however realizes the Reefer Madness idiocy was over the top, and was produced by a groupthink that was no more bright or enlightened, cool or responsible than the groups and minds that permitted the coding and building of vast human residences, however many feet below sea level, uhm, in a hurricane corridor??

Lots of LE people are cool remember. Way I see it least we can do is not to put them in a pickle where they get scrutinized for looking the other way.

On the other hand stay on guard for the cats who dream of doing so much community good (thru political power) that they will get mickey mouse to advance their career to where they can do more on bigger issues. Like a local asst. d.a. prosecutor kid fresh outta law school whose girlfriend ran off with a pot smokin, bandana wearin, roach clip on the key chain, Billy Idol roadie, type whose vendetta in life is now aimed at becomin an attorney general or some shit. He or she would bust their own mothers for J-walkin if it was gonna get 'em somewhere.

Just takes one dickhead who won't look the other way on an antiquated social taboo, to ruin a perfectly functional and principled LE organization .

All we gotta do is not lure 'em too deeply, nor too easily into our deviously psychotic web of intrigue and social mahem.

Lucky for you my sec says that I, your basic OPEC of all known global tetrahydracannibinol deposits, have Satan on line 2 so I really have to go.

[Garden Knowm]

yeah, what he said.. and .. and.. yeah, I steal my pics from other sites.. too...

[chonged]

im british, so if i get nicked growing my own smoke, they will probably just confiscate my equipment,

glad i aint american cos i'd probably end up in the chair....i find it hard to believe the the measures the US government goes to chasing after pot heads

[Melton420]

we CAN be caught. but i sincerley doubt it, as long as no one uses the B word with the presidents name after it

[SeedKing72]

Yeah I aint gonna worry about, if they want to waste their time on my tomatoes then they can kiss my ass!!

[crashdamage]

We grow tomatoes...and brocoli...and last night, after having some of our home grown tomatoes, my wife and i performed a lewd, immoral and downright nasty sex act that is illegal in many states.

I wasnâ??t worried about it then, and im sure not going to worry about it nowâ?¦:-)

[RastaKaze]

the facts are that goverment officials are probably looking at this site and others like it everyday, but unless your growing like 350 plants in your basement to become a supplier or some crap they're not gonna waste their time coming after you... i was just like you, nervous and asking if its safe all the time, then my bro put in in perspective for me. "u think the feds are gonna come for some 15 year old and his little grow cabinet?" lol funny when you think about it but very true.. people working in gov are people jus like u and me, they have to make decisions and even if that desicion is to bust all the growers in america they are still gonna overlook people like you and me.. trust me man, they got bigger fish to fry ;)

[SeedKing72]

Man I envy you, I can't smoke now because of a job search.. and there is nothing like getting high and then performing a lewd sex act.. A piss test should be illegal.. Im moving to Canada

[HARDDON]

Well you never know,.... All myre employees are drugged screened but then the piss is tossed down the toilet.

Like I am gonna pay $40.00 to test if a proscpective employee smokes dope.....RIGHT!

Now if its a workers comp claim, well yea then fuckyea, they're pissing :)

You can smoke and still pass the piss test.

10,000mg of esterified Vitamin C, 1.5 gallons of water and 2 gallons of cranberry juice 24 hours prior will handle that for ya.

Unless they do the hair test....then you;re fucked.

Who the hell would wanna hire a non stoner anyhow?

[turtle420]

Who the hell would wanna hire a non stoner anyhow?

Hey HARDDON, I smoke each and every day. Computer skills. Rolling skills. Management Skills. Leadership. I'm growing Cannabis. And I want to be the best I can be.


Who the hell would wanna hire a non stoner anyhow?
I'm an ubber-stoner! Am I hired?

[HARDDON]

I will hire you if you are a master of Macromedia Director program :)

[Marc Benson]

I have an honorary degree in Commercial Fishing and have attained the lofty status of Master Baiter. Will you hire me?

[SittinStoney420]

yeah me 2 :( ~so ashamed~

[HARDDON]

I have an honorary degree in Commercial Fishing and have attained the lofty status of Master Baiter. Will you hire me?

Damn MB I was about to post a I MISS MB thread.

WTF have you been?

Master Baiter...ROLFMAO...

No I need a master in Macromedia Director :)

I am Chief Officer of the Master Baiters Association. Position is filled :) :D

[Marc Benson]

I've been here HD. Just not a lot going on. Just sitting back reading how everyone is worried about getting caught, what bulb is better, if 2 400 watt HID's are a waste because it's no better than one, and who's got the nicest tits.

But on a good note plants are flowering. Put a 265 cfm exhaust fan in the room and man what a difference that made! Have it exhausting out the top into another room. But as usual for me I have issues with both plants but they'll make it. I gave them a double shot of Miracle Grow, Schultz and put two large cow pies on top of the soil (jk). But I've found that my thumb is more sort of a 'yellowish' green than a true green thumb. I think I'm a genetic mutant...no comments required.

Been doing an interesting experiment. Cut a secondary growth shoot that was about 18 days into flower. Stuck in in some water first. No roots. Leaves and flower didn't degrade though. So got some rooting powder and yammed it in some soil. Little sucker is growing! Flower is getting larger. Leaves are nice and green. 10 days since I cut it. So what I'm thinking is that there are some shoots that just don't progress as much as a person would like because they just don't get enough light. If this works then you should be able to cut them and root and flower by themselves with lights dedicated to these little chicks and increase the yield! Or that's my thoughts anyway. Fun to mess with if nothing else. I'd post a photo but...I might get caught.

[HARDDON]

I'd post a photo but...I might get caught.

So jsut do like I do....

Scan all the other boards and steal pics of a guys grow and make your story wrap around it.

You dont actually grow the stuff do you really?

FUck that!

I just steal the pics and post em here and BS my way around the idiots mistakes making myself look cool :)

Isnt that what we all do?????

I mean, you guys dont really, really, really really grow this stuff....do you?:eek:

[Da1KrayzieThug]

Ya for real we just bullshit. Growin marijuana is illegal, why would we do such a thing like that? We're just retards with a lot of time on our hands. :D

[RastaKaze]

Yea its kinda sad we just kinda sit at the computer fabricating the ideal life as a pot smoker... I wish I could really grow the stuff :(

[turtle420]

But then... if what you're saying is true... was that tomato seeds I ordered?! :eek:
<<<>>>>


On another note: Marc B.,

I've already got an idea with your idea. Please let us know if the bud/shoot makes it. :confused:

[Garden Knowm]

Hey Marc-

who does have the best tits?

was that mystery ever solved?

?????????????

[upnsmk]

ok just so every one is clear on this I can find out where you live by getting your ip (which isnt hard) and i know if i can then the gov could prolly figure out where we shit by our ips. But who cares i dont know about you but ive got nothing to worry about im legal and staying that way i just enjoy living in a alternet reality and finding stuff on the net and pretending its mine...