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rck2drums
09-25-2005, 04:26 PM
OK, I am tired of reading all of these posts about good seed banks and bad seedbanks. Here is the deal: The gov't created the internet. And whether they created it or not, they regulate it. Buying seeds is obviously legal in some places, but it is illegal here. Everytime you buy seeds, your name gets tagged. My friend bought seeds and when we tried coming back into the US they strip searched him and said it was because his name was tagged from buying seeds.

lemonboy
09-25-2005, 08:30 PM
Most seed orders take place through the mail using cash and money-orders. As far as being tagged for buying seeds, people get "caught" all the time. Their packages are seized by customs and they get a nice little note in the mail about it. If your "friend's" seeds has been discovered he would have gotten one of these letters long before he was "strip searched".

Are we really to believe they have a lubed up gloved finger waiting for all of us? Save your tall tales for your pick-up lines.

rck2drums
09-29-2005, 11:43 AM
Oh then I guess that you know because you recieved one of these letters? You are an idiot if you think that they don't know. No, your an idiot anyway. Just for arguing this fact. The Gov't INVENTED THE INTERNET. Are you stupid?? Do you think that you are that SAFE? They know all of the wesites you visit. They know all of the e-mails you send. And yes, Lemonboy, they know about your porn. All I can say is that if your all about fighting FOR weed, then don't buy shit online. They will bust you, and that will be one less person FOR weed.
Peace
Oh yea: What the hell did you mean "Save my tall tales for pickup lines"?

Your an idiot

turtle420
09-29-2005, 12:26 PM
rck2drums,

You definitely are one paranoid mother fucker... Have you ever heard of Hushmail? Of anonymous re-mailers? What about surf-portals? What about ... never mind.

Look, paranoid2drums, the goverment did NOT INVENT the internet... the internet EVOLVED from DARPAnet... more or less. From that DARPAnet came a network hooking up universities all over the USA (eventually, the world). That network connecting universities wasn't the internet. You idiot. The internet can be considered when the TCP/IP protocols came around and started to get used. The goverment didn't invent that. A fucking civilian did.

Dude, smoke some weed and leave the paranoia out of this. If you're so paranoid, then why the hell are you one this board? The goverment isn't going after some kid growing 1 shitty, half-baked plant inside his speaker box... yeah right, $120,000 in operative costs to get ONE kid with ONE plant that hasn't had ONE offense in his life... right

turtle420
09-29-2005, 01:27 PM
Hey rck2drums,

Dude, I'm sorry for lashing out on you like that. It was wrong on my part. My bad, please accept my apologies.

My point was, that the goverment has bigger fish to fry. I don't think you have to worry.

As to your friend that was strip searched... one question::: did he use his real name? Did he pay cash or with something (credit card) that could be linked to his name?

Thanks dude...

-turtle420 :cool:

Max Blast
09-29-2005, 04:31 PM
rck2drums,

Explain to me what you mean by "the government regulates the internet".

This one statement clearly demonstrates that you are suffering from extreme paranoia.

Not only did the US government NOT invent the internet (regardless of Al Gore's claim to be the father) it certainly cannot "regulate" it in any way. Did you ever have to get a permit to go on the net?

If you indeed think that "the government" knows your every move and every site you view then you should seek professional help soon.

hope you feel better soon.
Max Blast

SeedKing72
09-29-2005, 06:09 PM
Are you saying they said, "Hey we know you bought seeds before, so we are going to strip search you"????? Did he have any prior?, was he high? did he visit any seed shops in this other country.. I am assuming Canada.. where did he buy his seeds? I can tell you this THOUSANDS of people order seeds every day in the U.S.. I know several that have used their CC, and they have been doing it for years.. and there door have not got kicked in yet... Damn it sucks that we can't use this naturally occuring plant for our own pleasure, yet the govt supports the Tobacco Industry.. is that not a drug.. More people die off Liqour and Tocacco by far..

turtle420
09-29-2005, 06:35 PM
Right on SeedKing... right on....

the mole
09-29-2005, 09:15 PM
how many billion enternet transactions go on everyday....if they are watching them all ,i would like to know how.

believe it or not the postal mail does move fast ,so fast that there is no way to search even half the mail, I bet 90% of the time a postal worker only looks at the zip code anyway.

people do get busted, but its rare, sometimes they warn you 4 or 5 times befor they take legal action.

people wanting to know good seed banks ,want quick service and reliable seeds.

lowendblunt
09-30-2005, 12:49 AM
This cat is smoking wayyyyyyyyyyy too much sativa, shit's got him paranoid as fuck,come down on some indica and RELAX a little damn.

meloncoly
09-30-2005, 03:23 AM
rck2drums you are a stupid inbred thick piece of shit

peace out

Dae Styles
09-30-2005, 03:46 AM
theres allways a risk involved, but like turtle said theirs bigger fish to fry.. but as for me.. i get somebody else to order my seeds for me and throw a $10 their way for the trouble just incase..

dboy
10-18-2005, 10:23 PM
About rck2drums post:

Here's how it works. It's not like LEO really KNOWS what you're doing, it's really that once you're under investigation then your data trail will get looked at and probably won't help your case. There's so much data flying around that it's impossible to log it all. What can happen though is once you give them a reason to be interested in you, then you're screwed.

So rck2drums is not wrong. His paranoia is completely justified in my opinion.

the mole: yes, the NSA is watching every packet, and the FBI has a program going as well. The FBI system, CARNIVORE, was offically stopped by Congress but it continuing in secret.

There are many systems in place (ECHELON, DCS1000, Carnivore, are a few code words to search on), but one way is to send all the incoming data through an automated system that looks for keywords/key phrases (NSA's system for this is codename: DICTIONARY).

As for mail, I consider domestic mail to be fairly safe. I consider mail coming into the US from Canada to be completely unsafe, and mail coming from UK to US to be moderately safe.

Dboy

yocass
10-18-2005, 10:43 PM
to believe that NSAs program for tracking web based conversation is any more than half assed effective, is to say you are a moron. The amount of shit people send from this site alone would take 50 people analyzing every flagged paragraph. Thats FIFTY people, with intellignce pay (lotsa money) looking through all the shit at ONE site. But to believe your completely safe is also being a moron. I don't believe your story in the least personally, but if it is true its because the dumbass used his real name/real address. Thats also being a moron. Tell your friend to quit bein a moron if he doesnt wanna be fingerraped no more.

Mellow Man
10-19-2005, 03:45 AM
Oh then I guess that you know because you recieved one of these letters? You are an idiot if you think that they don't know. No, your an idiot anyway. Just for arguing this fact. The Gov't INVENTED THE INTERNET. Are you stupid?? Do you think that you are that SAFE? They know all of the wesites you visit. They know all of the e-mails you send. And yes, Lemonboy, they know about your porn. All I can say is that if your all about fighting FOR weed, then don't buy shit online. They will bust you, and that will be one less person FOR weed.
Peace
Oh yea: What the hell did you mean "Save my tall tales for pickup lines"?

Your an idiot
Are you living in China?