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GHoSToKeR
09-22-2005, 08:13 PM
The internet is shit.
(http://www.internetisshit.org/index.html)


The internet is shit.

It is vitally important that we all realize this and move on. People (eg Bloggers) go on and on about how wonderful it is. About how much information is out there in cyberspace. About the way that everything is within reach in just a few clicks of their mice.

For instance:

"If I can operate Google, I can find anything... Google, combined with Wi-Fi, is a little bit like God. God is wireless, God is everywhere and God sees and knows everything. Throughout history, people connected to God without wires. Now, for many questions in the world, you ask Google, and increasingly, you can do it without wires, too."
(Alan Cohen, V.P. of Airespace, a new Wi-Fi provider, New York Times, 6/29/03)


I can name 20 people from my old school class who aren't in Google. I can walk into any public library, no matter how tiny and underfunded, and find facts, stories, amazing information I would never touch in a month of webcrawling. I can go into a bar and hear stories Usenet hasn't come close to in its 22 years of waffle. "Oh but what about the stuff you CAN get on the web?" the netheads say. But they're missing the point.


The internet is not the sole basis upon which you can determine existence. It sounds simple but people are starting to forget. If it doesn't have a website, that doesn't make something low quality. If you can't Google your blind date, that doesn't make them a freak. If one website says something about anything, it's more than likely pure invention and shouldn't be taken seriously. Checking your sources does not mean finding another website that says the same. Fiction is self-perpetuating.


Let's say it another way. A URL is not a mark of quality. It's not proof of honesty or approval from the FDA. Sure, people say they know this already, that a lot of the internet isn't true and a lot of it isn't interesting, no matter how angst-ridden and attention-seeking its author. But still we praise the internet for everything, from mobilising global protests to creating the latest trends, while disappearing up its backside and discarding anything outside it as 'out of touch'.


While we ascribe every first-world miracle to the electronic age, there's something truly missing that we once had in our grasp: our sense of wonder. Back in 1995, we were surprised, agog when things appeared on the net. People starting going around saying 'wow, this could really become something'. Slowly (very slowly at 16kbps), strange websites, new information, odd diversions and discussions with people around the world appeared in this brave new world. Each time it was met with surprise and delight, even if some of it was deeply obscure and slightly dull. There was no doubting the potential of the medium.


And look what we've done with it. Food wrappers and soap operas now tell us to visit their websites. Money is pumped online by people who can't even spell HTML. All manner of pointless and irritating content is continually poured down the infinite hole of data, unfiltered and over-appreciated. In accepting freedom of speech, we can't hide from its consequences - which in this case is millions of terabytes of unreliable information, badly designed and clumsily written. We have failed our own creation and given birth something truly awful. We're just too busy cooing over the pram to notice.


We need to start again. We need to stop saying how wonderful things are. We need to openly, truthfully and respectfully admit that the internet itself, in almost all of what's been done with it, is shit.

There's no point in undoing what has been done. What we need to do is to change our attitude. The internet isn't new any more. The evangelists have done their job. Everyone's heard of it even if they don't spend their lives logged on. Now its the job of the congregation to revolt. Chant it from the rooftops, spread it across your server, email it to your friends. The internet is shit.


And then what? Then we can move on. If we truly understand that the internet is shit then maybe we'll go back to looking elsewhere to check our information instead of just Google. Maybe journalists will do proper research again. If we remember that the medium isn't the message then maybe we'll stop aimlessly surfing for something amusing when we could actually be doing something fun. And, crucially, if the internet is just seen as occasionally unavoidable, maybe those websites that give us something special will be all the more amazing for it.


Give an infinite number of monkeys typewriters and they'll produce the works of Shakespeare. Unfortunately, I feel like I'm reading all the books where they didn't. I can't wait for the day when the internet makes me rejoice in its possibilities again. But right now, it's shit.

GHoSToKeR
09-22-2005, 08:16 PM
Although I see the irony of this being posted on a website, I must say that to a certain extent I completely agree. Yes, there are alot of things that wouldn't have been possible without the internet, and yes, there are alot of good, informative sites, but on the whole I agree; the internet is shit.

Anonymous
09-22-2005, 08:18 PM
sorry man im to lazy to read but alot of the internet is shit bu alot of it is good like this site

Lily420
09-22-2005, 09:59 PM
Ima be blunt here, i dident read everything...i just dident feel like it. Buti do agree the internet is shit. I dont even stay online much anymore because the internet has gotten way to shitty, but we've done it to ourselves.

Edgar
09-23-2005, 12:28 AM
I know there is a lot of shit on the internet, but I find that it is still an enormous source of good information and not just shit, but facts too. Well established truths. One just needs to practice good judgement and know how to fact check. Get to know your sources of information, dont just take them at face value. The guy that wrote that sounds like he doesn't know how to wade through the bullshit to get to the meat, (on the internet) but that doesn't suprise me, seeing as how he apparently doesn't know how to check his facts online, which you most certainly can do, even, no, especially on the internet.

I live in the country... The middle of nowhere for all intents and purposes. The town library at the nearest town is a joke, it doesn't cover enough topics and a great deal of the info found in the books there is outdated. So if i want to learn, I use the internet. Flawed though it may be, it's still a very useful tool and I like that it's wild and relatively free, so fuck starting over and long live the internet. =P

Melton420
09-23-2005, 01:57 AM
yes..... yes the internet is shit

looseends
09-23-2005, 03:21 AM
didn't read all of it, but my husband told me that you have to treat the internet like a relationship. if it isn't giving you what you were looking for then you may have to leave her alone for a minute. you know honeys...tell her you need some time apart.

kontrol87
09-23-2005, 03:34 AM
i only read the topic...and none of you're replies...so im just going to say....the internet is cool but loosers who have blogs and post in them everyday need a life.

somebody someone
09-23-2005, 12:20 PM
lol yup i see them on peoples MSN spaces, talking about things only they care about, nevermind... i think in the end the internet will kill us all.

Maui Wowie
09-23-2005, 07:37 PM
I realized this a long time ago... :\

Euphoric
09-23-2005, 08:12 PM
GOOGLE WILL CRUSH YOU

DO U FEEL LUcKY??

maryjanemama
09-23-2005, 08:23 PM
GOOGLE WILL CRUSH YOU

DO U FEEL LUcKY??You betcha! ;)

I'm with Edgar, why the hell would I want to leave my house? I, too, live in the middle of nowhere, without the internet I'd have to drive for miles to find information, that's the whole point of the internet. Convenience. Plus there's no porn at the library. I can't be naked there and make money so no thank you. And, I remember when there was no internet (yes, kiddies, let me take you back now) and it sucked balls.

GHoSToKeR
09-23-2005, 09:13 PM
I took my clothes off at the library and they paid me to put them back on. I made £1.25. True story.

hipEstoner
09-23-2005, 09:36 PM
so yaourek oanying, tahye ewrowid isoa unuitrue, i base myd rufg usei ionthat suute, ll

Funkamander
09-24-2005, 12:00 AM
Uh, I agree with the above post.

mike jones
09-24-2005, 12:27 AM
so yaourek oanying, tahye ewrowid isoa unuitrue, i base myd rufg usei ionthat suute, ll

i want what he's smoking

dboy
09-24-2005, 12:41 AM
It's easy to *say* anything is shit and appear all cool and all, but how bout some examples. What are you trying to DO that gives you that opinion? And what is the alternative solution you have discovered that is better? The Internet is a tool. If you're using it properly it performs its designed function. So, what is shit about it? Do you not like the way routing protocols are designed? You think there's to much overhead in TCP/IP packet data? What?

dboy

smokingskeleton
09-24-2005, 01:18 AM
I took my clothes off at the library and they paid me to put them back on. I made £1.25. True story.

Man im going to try that....My local library is posh..has like really old maps n shit. Who wants really old maps n shit? I don't. Da Internet is full of losers.....but so is life so quit bitching stfu and get out with it.

hipEstoner
09-24-2005, 01:20 AM
i want what he's smoking
its not smoking, it was 350 mgs of morphine that im still fucked up from and i cant keep ne thing on my stonach without throwing it up
wouldnt suggest ne one try morphine in this large dose unless ur experienced ,, i tried to call 911 on myself but i couldnt remember the #, fortunately i didnt cuz im getting better , im still throwing up everything i eat though

girlygirl
09-24-2005, 01:24 AM
if the internet shit ..why he opened a internet site named http://www.internetisshit.org/index.html ?
lol

smokingskeleton
09-24-2005, 01:30 AM
its not smoking, it was 350 mgs of morphine that im still fucked up from and i cant keep ne thing on my stonach without throwing it up
wouldnt suggest ne one try morphine in this large dose unless ur experienced ,, i tried to call 911 on myself but i couldnt remember the #, fortunately i didnt cuz im getting better , im still throwing up everything i eat though

Thats fucking scary ass shit...I'd hate to be like that...

ilikerabbits
09-24-2005, 11:48 AM
so yaourek oanying, tahye ewrowid isoa unuitrue, i base myd rufg usei ionthat suute, ll


some sort of religious tongue talk ?

l330
09-24-2005, 11:53 AM
some sort of religious tongue talk ?

he got nice trip
LOL

xNoa
09-24-2005, 12:24 PM
absolutely ridiculous, how can that nobody say something like that and offer nothing else then getting people to say 'internet is shit' trying to be different.
the internet is home to a wealth of information, noone is saying you have to use it, if its shit dont use it, just because you subject yourself to all the shitty forums is not our fault.

dboy
09-24-2005, 01:31 PM
Exactly. There's a wealth of information and access to very smart people just on this ONE board alone. We'd all be isolated if it weren't for forums such as this. The same can be said for other parts of the Internet like IRC, P2P, NNTP, SMTP, etc. Original poster probably doesn't even know what "The Internet" is.


dboy

Canadabis
09-24-2005, 11:22 PM
The internet is shit. But I think everyone kind of already knows that.

Ganj
09-25-2005, 02:52 AM
what the fuck is the internet?!