ARGHHHH, help

[masterg]

Hey people, ive just got back to da grow room, bin out for a couple of hours and the leaves have started to droop in6to the soil, got no strengh in them, any ideas?
Cheers.

[Zandor]

Temperature? Humidity? Ph? what does the water run off look like?

[masterg]

Hey Zandor, my temparature is 78 degrees F with the light on,
PH in the soil is about 6.8 - 7.
Humidity is about 55%
i let the water drain out the wholes when water then dont wate untill the soils pretty dry, i use moisture meter to check to be safe.
Cheers 4 helpin man.

[rysk8er420]

You probably watered them too much, i have also seen these symtoms from too much heat, but at 78 degrees it shouldnt be that.

[masterg]

Thanx Zandor and Rysk8ter420, you probly are right it could be over watering or 2 much nutrients, so i'll leave the plant food a little bit, plenty more suggestions welcome.
Cheers.

[Rezinator]

I can tell you that I was getting severely drooping leaves until I stopped using our tap water which is noticeably "hard" water.

You could have overwatered. You could also have overdone it with nutes for all I know on that so far, but if you have been using tap water only, you should get some distilled water and try that next watering/feeding, and see if that helps.

[masterg]

HEY people, ive been doing some research on my plant problem, and im prety sure that ive eigher over watered or over fertilized, any idea's how to solve problem(s)?

If its overfertilized i heard that i need to LEACH the soil, haha dont have a clue how 2 do that?
and if its overwatering i done, how do i solve that?

Cheers.

[Marc Benson]

If you over fertilized and don't have a soil that's pre-fertilized some support flushing (which is what you're calling leaching). Run water of at least 2 to 3 times the volume of soil through the soil. So if you have 3 gallon of soil run 6 to 9 gallons of water through it. This washes out most or a lot of the salts that are built up from over ferting. I use room temp water to almost luke warm when I do this. Cold water can shock the roots. Or so they say.

I've flushed plants a number of times and haven't seen a negative response. Always a good response. There's a medical grower that flushes 4 or 5 times throughout his grows and I've seen some of his 'work' and it'd blow you away. He just feels it's a good thing to flush the soil a number of times to keep things clean.

My one question would be if you have a moisture meter...how did you over water?? If you have over watered all you can do is try to get a fan on the soil and make sure the drain holes are not covered and get some air moving over it. If the plant is of any size it'll use it up fairly quickly though also. Also some suggest poking holes down through the soil to allow more air to get to it and dry it out, but I've never liked that idea. I would think you'd be poking through a lot of small roots plus I've always heard that it wasn't a good thing to let air hit the roots.

Hope that helps!

[Zandor]

Use a commercial flusher like GH florakleen for a few day's.

[masterg]

Thanx 2 everybody, you have all bin a massive help,

I flushed the soil yesterday and the water was full on yellow, i take it thats all the fertilizer coming out, now my question is how long untill it starts looking better?
at the moment it dont look better, if anythin the lower leaves have started to shrivel.
Is that normal?
anywayz like i say will it start improving quite quickly?
Cheers 4 helpin out people.

[mafia819]

Hi,

check your main stem at the bottom for fungus ( it looks like a brown bark over the green one and it also looks like its digging the stem...) look for that ;)


Happy Growing! ;)

[masterg]

Hi Mafia,

i had a look and there is actually a little bit of brown stuff round about the place where the first 1 set leaves came out, not alot but there is some brown stuff.
what do u reckon i should do man?

Cheers 4 helpin man.

[masterg]

Hi,

I flushed my plant 4 days ago and it just dont seem to be improvin, anybody know why?
Growth is real slow, dont even know if it is growing.
its just a bit bigger than a ciggarette, and its 4weeks and 1 day old today, i was hopin to stick it in 12/12 after a month but i probly cant do t yet can i?

anywayz any help, suggestions would be really appreciated, cheerz.

[Marc Benson]

If this plant is only as tall as a cigarette you for sure have no right fertilizing it. It's way too small. Not too young as it should be WAY bigger than you suggest it is. Photos would help and how large is the container it's in?

As for 12/12 you can put any plant in 12/12 whenever you want but I can't imagine that one that's as small as this one would yield anything.

[masterg]

Hey MB,

at the moment its in a 2litre square pot, i stared it in a 300ML square pot, transplanted about 1 and a half weeks ago.
All the leaves that look dead on this plant like at the bottom, all like brown and crispy curled under, shall i pull them off? or just leave them?
ones on top are nice green, does that mean its still going to grow and go healthy?
I realy dont know what to do for this plant, the soils still wet cause i flushed 4 dayz ago as well.

cheers 4 helpin me out man, like i say suggestions and opinions are all welcome.

[Marc Benson]

Like I said for a plant that small it takes little moisture and probably no ferts to keep it going, although I can't understand why at 4+ weeks old it's only as tall as a cigarette?? Or are you talking the size of the main stalk? Just doesn't make any sense.

As for leaves that are brown and crispy? They do no good at all so take them off. Just make sure you cut close to the leaves and not right up next to the branch/stalk. Too close could promote disease in the branch/stalk as there's not much distance it has to cover to get there. The longer it is creates a sort of buffer.

[HARDDON]

It is ok to just cut the brown and crusty part of the leaf off and leave the green part. In fact, this is preferred by 9 out of 10 leaves. :)

[masterg]

Hi MB,

I tried gettin some pics 4 u but here not good quality, should help a little bit though.

so far ive gave this plant bio-bizz grow nutrients, epsom salt for magnesium, and water.

the only reason reason i started givin it nutes is because i thought it needed them as the leaves was yellowing, i knew it was eigher 1 of the N-P-K's or it was a MG problem.

so to be on the safe side i gave it both. Then this happened, haha.

Ive just cut all the brown crispy leaves off just at the start of the leaf.
i think new leaves at the top are starting to come through, but it is very slow.

[jimmybobjoe]

looks like bonsi weed!!

[masterg]

Hey jimmybobjoe, i cut leaves off the bottom, like all da crispy dead leaves, that might be why u think its bonsi weed, or myabe not, haha.

It just dont seem to be growing, its only a litle bit bigger than a cigarette, i aint watered it since i flushed it as the soils still a bit moist.
when its dry do i give it nutrients or just water?

cheers people 4 helpin this lil baby out.

[jimmybobjoe]

Could you post some pics of your grow room. Also what kind of lights are you using. Lighting makes a big difference in growth. How old are the lights you are using, as this can make a difference too. Also is this plant in the same container as above in the pictures? if not it could be that it is in shock from the transplanting and or over fert. Sometimes in takes a few days to recover from shock, and somtimes they never recover from shock. As for diagnosing your problem there are just way to many factors unknown at this point. Give us your statistics and we will see if we can help you. Oh, and i think Bonsi plants look awsome, so it wasnt a negitive statment.

[Marc Benson]

"i aint watered it since i flushed it as the soils still a bit moist"

Do you have a fan blowing on it?

[masterg]

Jimmoybobjoe, im using a 125watt VEG envirolite, and i got a 200watt flower enviroite (if i get that far, haha)
lights probly a few months old,but never bin used to much,
yea thats the pot the plants in, i transplanted from 300ml pot to that 1 wich is a 2 litre pot, haha cheers 4 the comment about the bonmsi plant, hopefully its somethin nice, as all i know is its bagseed what im growing.

Hey MB, yea, well i got 1 big pc fan and 2 little cpu pc fans on the plant, like 2 on the plant and 1 on the soil.
It bin 6dayz since i flushed today (27th september), shall i water or fert? or anythin?

Cheers 4 helpin this lil baby out.

[masterg]

Hi, ive noticed that the stem of the plant has started turning like a purple colour, spreading more by the day, any ideas what this is?

leaves seem to be drooping down again, and i aint watered for 1 week?

little bits of brown on the leaf tips as well, im gettin worried for this little baby. well its 4weeks and 4dayz old.

cheers 4 helpin out people.

[masterg]

will this solve all my problems?
haha,
http://www.gchydro.com/detail.asp?product_id=ALGAMIC
thanx, oppinion and suggestions all appreciated.

[meloncoly]

don't dehydrate it, keep growing, read more, stop whining

[masterg]

Hey people, i think ive saved da plant, kinda.
i gave it some bio-grow ferilizer, cause i got told the purple stem was from a N deficiency.
done that now the leaves seem to be pointing out better, seems to of got a lil taller, (not much), purple will probly go away as well now, haha wicked.
just thought id let u know, cheers.