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mand
09-14-2005, 03:35 PM
I hope no one minds me doing a little grow journal right from the begining this time :)

Well I've geminated sixteen sensi skunk #1 seeds, all have germinated and they have been potted and are now showing. In total this took four days.

I've put them in the growroom under a MH bulb that is running on a eigthteen and a half / five and half cycle.

Ok now it's the boring bit..........waiting :rolleyes:

My whole grow will consist of, germinating, potting, re -pottting to bigger pots, pinching when ready, inducing when ready, harvesting and drying when ready.
In addition water them each day and just check them each day...........................Thats it really.


I've added a few pics but there really isn't much to see :o
Oh I know the light should be closer I just lifted it up to take the pics ;)


Bye for now, love mand xxx :)

greendevil
09-14-2005, 04:49 PM
cant wait to see how this turns out best of luck mand

Marc Benson
09-14-2005, 04:51 PM
Awesome Mand! Look forward to seeing how the experts do it. I'm sure we can all learn a lot. Could you tell us what your soil is composed of? Are you just using tap water? Horse poop? Good luck and GOOD GROWING!!

HARDDON
09-14-2005, 05:35 PM
I think you need to move the light even closer when you replace it.

They are already stretching.

MH cannot hold a candle to CFL for this stage of their life.

I can see the stretching. I would lower the bulb a bit more. With a good fan RIGHT ON the bulb, blowing UP, you can get the bulbs within 4 inches of the plants.

Assuming it isnt a 1000Watts and has a hood or reflector put on it.

Good luck beautiful lady :)

BobBong
09-14-2005, 05:48 PM
I think you need to move the light even closer when you replace it.

They are already stretching.

MH cannot hold a candle to CFL for this stage of their life.

I can see the stretching. I would lower the bulb a bit more. With a good fan RIGHT ON the bulb, blowing UP, you can get the bulbs within 4 inches of the plants.

Assuming it isnt a 1000Watts and has a hood or reflector put on it.

Good luck beautiful lady :)

I'd have to agree, i thought my seedlings where stretching.. they're only about half of what i see here.

when you repot them, make sure to bury them up to the first set of leaves.

hopefully you get the stretching under control
:o

look forward to seeing mand's babies grow.

mand
09-14-2005, 06:44 PM
Hello Thankyou all for you're replies :)

You're right Harddon they always stretch at the begining and I always have to put sticks in them for support, but they will right themselves as they grow.
I've noticed on the pics on this forum that most are very low down and have lot's of leaves on.
Usually by the time they get to the 4th or 5th node they will be able to suppport themselves ok, but I've moved the light closer to help matters.
It really isn't anything to worry about ;)
Thanks love :)

Marc :) , I only give them tap water and sometimes a pinch of Phostogen plant food in it.
The compost, well anything that rots down easily goes in that, dead plants and flowers out of the garden, kitchen scraps (vegatable peelings that type of stuff), grass cuttings from the lawn, horse poo is a must ;) ...........absolutely anything that I think will be ok.
Then I just dig it from the bottom and riddle it out very well, to get rid of big lumps and any bugs.

My biggest problem is going to be winter coming on, it does get quite cool in there sometimes, but it doesnt really effect the buds it just makes them grow slower. Also I've gone for a variety that I know grows quite well in winter.


Thanks guy's ....love mand xxx :)

Mellow Man
09-14-2005, 07:04 PM
Just a question seeing that you are into soil grows! do you ever have a problem with springtales! those soil critters that don't eat your roots but just eat rotting veg matter in your soil?

mand
09-14-2005, 09:51 PM
Hello Mellow Man :) .............To be honest love I'm not even sure what a "springtail" is :o
Anyway I never really have any major problems with bugs, I always give the compost a good riddling out, well I get one of my sons to help me, you see I have a thing about worms and I have to get someone to pick them out for me, affraid I can't even touch them with gloves on, eerrggghhh horrible things :eek:

You just watch this grow turn out to be a total disaster now I'm keeping a little journal about it :o , that'll be just my luck :rolleyes:


love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
09-14-2005, 10:23 PM
We have faith in you Mand! You've no doubt successfully grown many more crops than a lot of people in this forum. I like your new pic!

Krippysmoker
09-15-2005, 05:18 PM
Mand I have no doubt that this grow will exceed the first. Us girls have to stick together.....go get em honey!!!!

mand
09-18-2005, 03:17 PM
Mand I have no doubt that this grow will exceed the first. Us girls have to stick together.....go get em honey!!!!


Thankyou K :) ..................we'll see how they go ;) , mind you doing a journal type thing is asking for trouble, what if they all go and die on me :(


Eight days since staring germination ( I think :o ) they were holding themselves quite well but I deciced to support them with sticks just to be on the safe side ;) However all sixteen are looking in really good health.


love mand xxx :)

Sleek420
09-18-2005, 03:28 PM
Mand, can you move your light down closer to your plants? If I am seeing properly I think your plants are stretching and thats because lack of light, if you move it down they should grow healthy green lush.

Marc Benson
09-18-2005, 06:52 PM
Hey Mand. Bet you wish people would stop telling you to move your lights down huh? All they have to do is read and see it's been beat to death already.

How many have you historically had end up being females from a planting of this size?

What watt MH?

And why the 18.5/5.5 light cycle? Never heard of that one before. Sure it works (as is evident by your past grows) but just wondered.

Have a good one!

mand
09-18-2005, 10:10 PM
Hello Sleek :) I know love, I'm affraid it always happens, it's just my way :o
but by the time they get to around the fifth node they'll be fine and standing on their own. I've just got a thing about putting the light to close, I'm affraid of frazzling them ;)


Marc :) ok love ....out of sixteen plants I would usually expect about nine or ten females.............usually ;)

As for he MH lighting, 400 watts, now I'm going to get kinda technical here :eek: :) ................I read in my little book when I first started growing that a 400 watt MH would provide 30,000 lumens which is enough to cover an area of up to 35sq feet, well my grow area is around 36sq feet, so thats close enough for me ;)

As for the 18.5/5.5 cycle, thats just me I thought I would give them a little bit longer light, sometimes I have run 19/5 before just out of intrest :)


love mand xxx :)

mand
09-26-2005, 07:29 PM
Helllo just a little update :)

Well they are about two weeks old now. To tell you the truth I only find the harvesting bit intresting, the watching them grow is a bit like watching paint dry :rolleyes:


Just a couple more pics of the progress :)


love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
09-26-2005, 08:01 PM
We missed ya Mand! Plants are looking good.

digitaldog
09-26-2005, 08:02 PM
Hiya Mand
I`m looking forward to following your grow. I`m currently around 3 weeks into my second ever attempt so i`m just a week or so ahead of you. I have 4 plants doing very nicely ( i`ll post a few pics soon but i always have to borrow a friends cam)
Unfortunately my 1st grow was a bit of a disaster as i fried 2 with my 400W hps and the other 2 turned out to be males but it was a great learning curve and the 4 plants i have now are a lot more healthy and bushy.
It will be interesting to compare and see if urs grow quicker and bigger and if so i can maybe get a few clues as to what i`m doing wrong - if anything
Unfortunately i`m not sure of the strain i`m growing
Anyway keep posting hun & good luck with them
They`re lookin cool
Digi xx

mand
09-27-2005, 12:53 PM
Hello Marc :)I've just had a few days at the seaside..............salt air, fish n chips and noisey seagulls to wake up too..........can't beat it love ;)



Hello Digi :) oh dear love, thats why I always rather keep the light away a little, frightened of frazzling the plants ;)
As it gets colder weather here mine will slow down on there rate of growing, it can get quite cool in my growroom during Winter, doesnt hurt the plants but it justs slows down there metabolism a little.
However at the moment the tempreture is fine and they are looking quite healthy, so it should give them a decent start ;)

Look forward to seeing you're pics Digi and good luck ;)


love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
09-27-2005, 03:12 PM
Hey Mand I was just reading through your grow here and noticed this.

"I read in my little book when I first started growing that a 400 watt MH would provide 30,000 lumens which is enough to cover an area of up to 35sq feet, well my grow area is around 36sq feet, so thats close enough for me"

Most 'experts' suggest that the minimum you need for minimum growth is 2000 lumens per sq/ft. Better to have at least 5000/sq/ft. Best to have 7500/sq/ft. If you have 36 sq/ft of grow area (which would translate into an area 6 feet x 6 feet) you'd need, as a minimum 72,000 lumens, better to have 180,000 and best to have 270,000. You have about 833 lumens per sq/ft. FWIW

That said it looks like you've been fairly successful in your grows so this may not mean a thing. Just thought I'd comment on this.

mand
09-27-2005, 03:29 PM
Oh no Marc please not the technical stuff ;)

So I would need 72,000 lumens (whatever a lumen is ? :o )....That would be two 400 watt lamps in my little growroom :eek:
I'd need a pair of welders goggles just to look in there :)


Marc how am I going to get you over all this worrying lark :confused:

Honestly Marc just trust me ...it'll be fine ......promise ;)

love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
09-27-2005, 05:28 PM
I'm not worrying Mand. Just flappin' my lips and you know how I love to do that. And not suggesting you change, just giving you some info that I've glommed on to in my reading.

A lumen is just a measure of light. How bright it is to a human. It's for humans to use as it really has no bearing on what matters to a plant.

Sorry I hijacked your thread. Me bad.

chonged
09-27-2005, 06:37 PM
Hi Mand, good luck with ya grow :)




I'd need a pair of welders goggles just to look in there


hehehe

mand
09-27-2005, 07:08 PM
Thankyou Chonged, thats very nice of you :)


Right as for you Marc yes it's very bad of you to hijack my thread..............................bet you didn't know I can be assertive did you ;)


Only kidding love :) I've dug the book out and just looking in it, it's called..............."A guide to growing Marijuana in cool climates" and it's written by someone called Don Irving.

It says that a 400 watt MH lamp gives 30,000 lumens light output enough to cover 35 sq ft.
Also an 400 watt HPS lamp produces 50,000 lumens and will cover 50 sq ft.


Marc love what are you doing to me here, you're sending me all kinda technical :) ........much more of this and I'll be talking about the red and blue end of the light spectrum..................it's ok I've still got the book open ;)


love mand xxx :)

digitaldog
09-27-2005, 07:38 PM
ahhhhhhhhh Mand !! I never thought i`d see you goin all technical on us!! :D
Thought it was just us `` Boys with our Toys`` that did that!!
hehehe

P.S. Ive got a good pair of sunglasses next to my growspace!! :cool:
Might upgrade to welding goggles when i stick them into flower!!! :D

mand
09-28-2005, 06:45 PM
Hello Digi :) I blame that Marc Benson chap, I think he's trying to convert me to become all techie ;)
Not to worry Digi, I can only get technical when I have a book in front of me :)

I've got all the light in the growroom I can handle to be honest, I went outside last night and it looked like ET had landed in my shed. I forgot to put the blanket back in place and all the light was shinning around the edges of the door :eek:


love mand xxx :)

mand
10-01-2005, 05:22 PM
Hello :) I just thought I would add the next "event" that took place today ;)

They are just about Three weeks old now and just been re-potted.

Now it just a case of waiting till they are ready for pinching and inducing...................I would like to say it's exciting stuff, but it isn't really ;) Now if I was talking about shopping then I would be a little excited :o


love mand xxx :)

latewood
10-01-2005, 06:06 PM
:) Hey, Mand...I have a couple of days and saw your journal... :cool:
Look forward to watching you grow more efficiently, from all this free advice...
getting techi, did you say, you already converted and don't know it...

On a different note, I want to bring the ol' lady across the pond, this winter
maybe to Amsterdam, but I got to thinking :eek: :eek: what if we could hook-up with Mand in England first :p ...What do you think?... :)

chonged
10-01-2005, 07:28 PM
Mand....did u use any rooting powder stuff when u re-potted ?

mand
10-01-2005, 11:56 PM
Hello Latewood :) Me getting techie, "perish the thought love" :eek: .....................Well maybe just a tiny bit ;)


Yes if you can call in on you're way to Amsterdam, To use an expression I never ever say that would be "cool" :) ...........Keep me up to date with you're plans ;)
Mind you Amstedam in Winter, pack you're woolies it can get quite chilly. Then again you can soon get to the stage were you don't notice ;)



Hello Chonged :) No love I don't use anything like that. I just ease them out of the little pot and just put them in a hole aready made in the compost and just pack them in the bigger pots.
I was told to be quick re-potting them as roots don't like exposure to light.

I think that rooting powder might be used on cuttings, but I've never taken cuttings so I don't know for sure.



love mand xxx :)

BILL THICK
10-02-2005, 06:02 PM
Hi Mand , thought I would come over and post your thread for a change :eek: . How ya doin?

I know that I found a long time ago (particularly outdoors, but may somewhat apply to indoors too)that when re-potting or transplanting that making sure the plant is facing the same direction after as it was before, the direction it faced the sun(light) :cool: should be the way it faces after transplanting. Call it an old wise tale if you like but it has always worked well for me. Maybe it helps the plant keep from being disoriented :confused: .

food for thought
Bill :D

KenoSmoker
10-02-2005, 08:35 PM
Lookin really good Mand. Good Luck with your grow :D

mand
10-04-2005, 05:44 PM
Hello Bill :) Old wives tales or not love , it's always worth a try ;)

I'm doing fine Bill. and you can post on my thread anytime you want love......................I get a bit mardy if I don't get many replies ;) :)


Keno :) to be honest love I'm actually quite pleased with there progress, I don't usually say that ..............Thanks keno :)


love mand xxx :)

I know it's only a few days since the last ones, but I can't resist a couple of todays pics ...............

digitaldog
10-04-2005, 08:15 PM
Hi Mand
They lookin cool :D
Very Healthy!!
If i had to criticise at all i`d say they`re still lookin a tad Stretchy though. Do you have any fans blowin on them? I`m sure u could get ur light a bit closer if u had a fan or 2 blowing the heat of ur bulb.( yer i know people have sed before on this thread that they`re stretchin)!!!
Also i can`t see any reflective material at all. Have u thought about maybe gettin a few meters of Mylar on ur walls -- it`s quite cheap really and u`ll waste far less of ur light!! :)
Sorry i`m not tryin to pull ur grow at all cos they`re lookin good and i`m enjoyin watchin them. ( Christ i`m no expert that`s 4 sure)!!!!!
But i do think u could Bush them up just a little.
Keep postin them pics mand - good luck with the fem/male ratio
Digi xx

Marc Benson
10-04-2005, 08:19 PM
Your grow looks awesome Mand. I'm humbled.

red662
10-04-2005, 08:27 PM
kepp up the good work mand, its good sein people grow there own, and when they start bloomin its a great site.
peace.
ps what do u mean pinchin??

mand
10-06-2005, 08:23 AM
Hello Digi :) Honestly love these are quite bushy for me. I have put the light a little closer than usual, altough it's not something I really worry about.
I always put the sticks in as a little precaution because I have in the past have had a few fall over before they got strong enough to support themselves, but this lot does seem much better in that respect :)

Hmmm no fan I'm affraid Digi, if it gets to warm I just open the growroom door a little :o
Hopefully this will be the last grow in this room, I was going to move them to a slightly bigger room and had my son paint it all out white for me but there is no power supply to it...............well there is but it doesn't want to work.
Hopefully I'll have that fixed for the next crop ;)

Marc love :) I do very little, they grow themselves, when you grow you're next ones, just try to let nature do it............they'll be ok, I promise :)



Thankyou Red :) .....Pinching is simply just pinching the very top new growth off between the finger nails ;)
I do this about 5 days before inducing flowering, it then makes the plant grow with two main stems instead of one, and I've found it does increase my yield quite a bit :)
You just have to be carefull not to pinch were the new stems are going to grow from, I think that it is not recomended that you pinch untill there is at least five nodes on the plant ;)
I've grown with out pinching as well but the yeild was not as good, so now I always pinch ;)


Thankyou guys.................love mand xxx :)

Rezinator
10-06-2005, 01:20 PM
Yeah well - lol - could take off on the "...now I always pinch" line but - nah - lol -

Seriously tho M. Maybe you oughta put up a thread with pics and just a basic guideline; a do's 'n don't's.

Some of us here aren't necessarily looking for kilo's of difference, we sometimes forget.

PartypokerPlayer
10-06-2005, 03:38 PM
hello mand :-) very nice pix you have there....i done a nice grow journal on here not long ago and am about to be posting some info on a new one.....i think your plants look great....and for the streching all i can say is hey if your gonna grow indoors it happens if you dont invest in high priced lights...i think they look great :-) looks very healthy but i do highly suggest a fan...it will help to make your stem real nice and thick....to more so give it an outdoor feel as if the wind is giving a breeze ...and this too will help with your plants falling over b.c it will make them stronger...;) i have a fan on mine 24-7 blowing on a medium speed halfway pointed at the plants and 400 w light b.c it gives a nice breeze to the plants so they get great airflow and dance all day while the grow room stays nice and cool while the air too is hitting the bulb keeping it cool....depending on how hot ur bulb gets u maybe be able to do what i do and thats to keep my grow room and the blub cool so you may move the light closer to the tops of your babys...hope this has helped and id love to see some new pix :D keep us posted ........
PPP

mand
10-06-2005, 04:22 PM
Hello Rezinator :) I'm a very gentle pincher love, I don't even leave a mark ;) :)

I'll try and do a few pics when I pinch them but I'm affraid I'm not confident enough to do a whole "do's and dont's thread" plus I get it wrong to often :o



Hello PPP :) Thanks for you're reply love :) I'm seriously thinking about the possible use of a fan for next years grow.
Yes I always wellcome advice on trying to improve the crop, I'm a very basic grower and as long as it doesn't involve too much expense or time I'm always willing to try different things .........nice to hear from you PPP :)



I have just pulled one of the plants outside to try and take a pic in more natural light, however it's a really dull day here today, looks like it's going to rain actually. Anyway I took one out from the front as they are all about the same size, so it didn't really matter which one it was ;)


love mand xxx :)

BILL THICK
10-08-2005, 07:23 PM
Look good Mand , perhaps your being modest about your growing ability? may be basic method and technique but perhaps doing things a bit more back to the basics would be worth considering for alot of us here. Therefore a little guidance for the do's and don'ts of growing basics, like Rezinator suggested, is not a bad suggestion :p . Could save many new and even some not so new growers some time , money and/or headaches. If your limited on free time, wouldn't want to put you on the spot. If so then just take it as vote of confidence. :D

Peace
Bill

mand
10-09-2005, 11:01 AM
Hello Bill :) you're being too kind Bill, honestly love they do grow themselves, I keep my interference with them down to the bear minimum.

So far I am very pleased with this latest batch, I took a few more pics a short while ago. They are now 4 weeks old and I can see the growth in them on a daily basis. At this rate I think the time for pinching and inducing will not be to far away ;)


I had a little day out yesterday, a "booze cruise" to France and Belgium and today I'm really shocked to see all the heated debate on here and Harddons leaving thread :( ........................Oh dear can't leave guys alone for one day without something happening ;)

Anyway I have to get busy with things here now (family dinner to prepare :rolleyes: ) but I'll have a look in later today :)


Thankyou very much Bill..........................love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
10-09-2005, 02:01 PM
Your plants look awesome Mand. You're a true technician. Amazing how far they've come in such a short time. Hope they're all girls!!

mand
10-09-2005, 02:24 PM
Thankyou Marc :) To be honest these are my favourite variety for growing, but they are coming on so well I'm quite supprised :)
I'm seriously thinking of pinching in prehaps another weeks time and inducing maybe the following week. I'll just see how they progress and take it from there ;)


bye for now .................love mand xxx :)

PartypokerPlayer
10-09-2005, 05:34 PM
hey mand
not a problem at all...i just went out and bought a video camera and it is suppose to take digital still's so hopefully soon i can learn to use that feature and get a few pix up of 2 strains i have going...one im not sure what it is...was in a mixed package...and the other is a Skunk#1.....winter is is quite near here and im almost ready to flower so hopefully the unknown can keep up with the Skunk in the cool basement......nice hearing from you as well ;).......later
PPP

mand
10-09-2005, 07:18 PM
Hello p :) Skunk#1 my favourite for growing, it's a hardy plant that does cope well with lower tempretures ;)
I've always been lead to belive that cooler growrooms during flowering when in their dark periods actually help the flowering due to making the plants believe that a cooler season has arrived.

I'm not sure how accurate that is but it sounds beliveable ;)


bye for now P...................love mand xxx :)

Garden Knowm
10-09-2005, 07:40 PM
nice pcs, nice plants, nice thread....

clembob101
10-10-2005, 02:29 PM
hi mand . plants are looking strong and healthy well done u .i havent seen skunk number 1 in a long while it was one of my favs in mid 90's.
i'm just finnishing of some chronic silver haze x at the monent about 4 weeks left
maybe we could trade when you crop out??????

good luck with the girls .
clem the bob of 101
uk

mand
10-11-2005, 01:11 PM
Hello GK :) and thats very nice of you to say so love ;)


Hello Chembob :) Trade, yes possible ;) .........................

http://www.sensiseeds.com/ml/shop.asp?MainLev=3&SubLev=15


Here's a link to the Sensi seed bank, I personally like Skunk#1, beccause they are very nice growers and there also good value, £15 for a pack of 16 seeds. Mind you there not the post potent bud there is but there not too bad ethier ;)
I buy my off a stall at the local Sunday market :)


love mand xxx :)

clembob101
10-11-2005, 01:18 PM
thanks for link . i might try a few in greenhouse in spring , ive a full space with the 2 strains i'm working on at moment, skunk 1 is a blast from past i remember first time i put some seeds down yield was fantastic compared to what was around at the time.

if you dont mind trading abit of end product maybe we could trade some clones in new year. ive got chronic x silver haze and jack x bubbleberry at moment.
thanks
clem the bob of 101

mand
10-12-2005, 03:43 PM
Hmmm space is always a bit of a problem for me Chembob, I really need to get the other room wired up for power or grow a few less ;)

Anyway I just called on to post a couple of pics, I tried to get all the room in but couldn't reach high enough, so my son had to take these for me :o
There five and a half weeks now and you can see I don't have a lot of space to spare.


love mand xxx :)

RastaKaze
10-12-2005, 03:54 PM
ahhh mand. you cease to amaze me :) or is it never cease??? I don't know... shit, how do I not know my own language :o When r u plannin 2 flower?

Marc Benson
10-12-2005, 04:09 PM
Mand you are truly my hero. Your grow is unreal. I can't see one leaf that looks like it has even the smallest bit of a problem. Awesome!

BILL THICK
10-12-2005, 05:15 PM
Mand I think between your plants, your sex appeal, your seemingly inexhaustable good nature and your obviously positive aura you have effortlessly developed a good size following here on the boards and may just have to change the title of this thread from "just a little journal" to "just a small set of books"!! :eek: !! lol. :D

It just speaks for your personna . Your clearly well liked here. Just thought I would make note of that , learned a long time ago that if you appreciate someone that you should make them aware of it lest you are liable to take them for granite. So here's lookin at ya , Mand, your the bomb ;)

:D cheers
Bill

latewood
10-12-2005, 05:52 PM
Man, Mand, Now I want to mov eto the UK///keep it up!

mand
10-12-2005, 07:29 PM
Hello and thankyou guys :) I feel really embarrased now :o

Rasta :) don't worry love have you noticed my use of the English languge, not very eliquent (is that how you spell eliquent :confused: :o )
I'm thinking of maybe pinching them this weekend and I'm not sure but maybe starting inducing the following weekend ?
Just thinking about it ;)

Marc :) Thankyou but it's the horse poo that does it not me. Honestly Marc start a compost heap and put in it all the vegatable peelings, lawn cuttings, dead plants out the garden, in fact anything that will rot down easily.
To be truthfull love I'm quite good at growing leaves but not so hot at growing the buds ....................enough for me though ;)


Bill :) Thankyou love, I'm going to show you're post to my kids, they just think I'm an nagging "old fogie" :o
Tell you what though Bill my youngest is going to get nagged of me when I catch him. He came in last night after midnight absolutely drunk.
Well I've no problem with that, I've been known to get a little tipsy myself on the very rare occasion :rolleyes: :)
The problem is he had to go to work at 6am this morning and that meant he had to drive his works van, which if he had been pulled over by the police I'm sure he would have been still over the drink/drive limmit.
Anyway He's done a dissapering act on me before I can tell him off about it.
Then again what do I know I'm just nagging him................kids :rolleyes:
You're very kind Bill :)


Latewood :) Oh dear love you wouldn't like it here. It's a really tiny Island, the weather is unpredictable to say the least and it's ever so busy :(
Then again we do have "Fish n Chips", really excellent choice of seed varieties and some of the finest "horse poo" to be found ;) :)


love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
10-12-2005, 07:42 PM
"but not so hot at growing the buds"

Don't know for sure but possibly you just need to let them go a little longer. Anyone that can grow leaves like that can grow buds.

sharpezor
10-12-2005, 07:48 PM
very cool grow, you're going to have some serious Herb there when they grow up.

I missed it, what strain is it?

mand
10-12-2005, 09:04 PM
"but not so hot at growing the buds"

Don't know for sure but possibly you just need to let them go a little longer. Anyone that can grow leaves like that can grow buds.


I'm sure they'll be fine Marc ;)

I'm still not sure when to induce them..................sooner or later :confused: ...............I'll see how they go on and then decide ;)

As long as they end up about a metre high then I'll be happy with them :)


Hello Sharpezor :) Sensi Seeds Skunk#1, very easy to grow ;) and the finished product is fairly potent for the price of them......£15 a pack of 16 :)


love mand xxx :)

digitaldog
10-12-2005, 09:13 PM
hiya mand
Lookin an awesome grow there now!!! Vey impressed!! And as marc sed -- not a leaf in there showin any signs of a problem.
Was just wondering though what sorta light you gonna be using for flowering??
U sed about growin nice leaves but `` Not so good at the buds ``
Just wondered what light your using after inducing.
Keep up the good work
digi -- <<<<<<< ( currently lookin for some fields with horses in them)

mand
10-12-2005, 09:52 PM
Hello Digi :) I flower with a 400 watt HPS love.

I'm not worried about it though, like I say as long as there is enough for me ;)

I've found a pic of some of the buds from the last crop, I'm not absolutely sure but I think those hanging were from 3 or 4 plants (the bigger ones). In total there were 9 big plants and 3 runty ones.
I have to say that the runts didn't produce an awful lot of bud but it's very very potent, one joint really does the trick ;)

I'm glad to see that you're getting into the horse poo game Digi, now I've just got to convert Marc ;)

love mand xxx :)

KenoSmoker
10-14-2005, 02:17 PM
Ive got some horse fields a few miles from my house....and where there are horses, there is also horse crap. Maybe Ill try it out. Very nice grow mand, keep goin!

mand
10-15-2005, 02:07 PM
Hello Keno :) I've used shop bought compost before but it's much cheaper to use the homemade stuff and it's much better as well ;)


Errrrr I've forgot how old they are now, I'll have to check from my first post on here :o I've just been that busy just lately I haven't had much time for them, just pop in once a day to water them ;)

Anyway I pinched the tops this morning so I'll give them a few days and then switch to 12/12 on the HPS bulb.

love mand xxx :)



Just checked and I think there 6 weeks :)

BukDatAss
10-15-2005, 03:47 PM
Hello Mand can you please show a pic of the pinched tops, if possible cause I'm a

noobie and I'm going to start a grow real soon. By the way, thank you for this

journal, its a really good learning experience for me. So what are your step as far as

nutes or anything else you do when you enter the flowering?

mand
10-15-2005, 05:52 PM
Hello B :)

Well I've tried to take a few pics but affraid I can't really do close up's, I need a magnifying glass and I've not yet gotten around to getting one :o

I don't know if you can make anything out from these photo's. However when first pinching (topping) I think it is best done with a small pair of nail sisscors, so that you can remove only the very top new growth, I use my nails because I've done it quite a few times before ;)

Whatever you do make sure that nothing is taken off the area were the new stems are going to grow from. You can see them it's were the new sprouts are.
The bits on top of the ballast/transformer thingy are the new growth that has been removed, that's all you have to take off..............nothing more ;)


As for nutrients, I just start of with a good well rotted home made compost and I sometimes add a pinch of Phostogen plant food to the water, thats it really :)


Sorry about the photo's B :o .....................just let me know if I can tell you anything else :)


love mand xxx :)

Completely Stoned
10-15-2005, 06:55 PM
How do you pinch the tops exactly? And what's it do really? Keep the plant low? Cause I really need mine to stay low.

mand
10-15-2005, 11:40 PM
Hello C :) ,It's quite difficult to explain without a decent pic...........

At the very top of you're plant there is the very freshest new growth just bellow the new growth were it joins the main stem thats were you cut it off.
However make sure that the cut is above the diagonal shoots growing from the node bellow ;)
With the main stem cut off all additional growing will come from the two shoots bellow the cut, making two main stems to produce buds.

I've grown with and without pinching (topping) and have found that by having two main budding stems that it does increase the yeild quite a bit ;)


I suppose that it could be used for keeping a plant low, I've never used it for that reason, check this thread out C :) .............................

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=18629



Love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
10-17-2005, 03:23 AM
Mand im want to use a 400HPS and 400MH bulb but im having trouble looking for an

inexpensive light fixture. I guess when working with so much watts you do need a

ballast or can you just go stick those bulbs in a reg socket? Do you recommend

anything not to expensive and point me to a direction

mand
10-17-2005, 09:56 AM
Hello B :) I'm affraid where lights are conerned I'm only know the one I use and to be honest I no next to nothing about that :o

Before I bought it I read and was told that the best combination of lights was a Matal Halide for vegitive growth and an High Pressure Sodium for flowering.
Well I just went to the growshop told them what I wanted and they sold me the set up.
The ballast thingy can take both sets of bulbs, so when I've finished on the vegitive growth I just unscrew the MH bulb and screw in the HPS bulb and start 12/12.

I know the guys on here are always on about different types of lamps so I bet they can help you.

Heres a pic of my ballast thingy, oh, the small box that is with it is a relay switch, which stops the timer from melting.

The set up runs on 400 watts and they are quite exspensive to buy but I think they can be found cheaper if you shop around a little ;)



love mand xxx :)

WeedyBoyWonder
10-17-2005, 11:43 AM
Your plants look fucking nice. Ihope my grow turns out as good as your is going to. :P

Mand can you answer me one more question? its the 17th today, and i cant get my light untill the 21st (HPS all the way) but my seeds are germenated, and i have planted them, (only 2 plants) do you thonk they will be ok just in my room, with nothing untill i can get a light?

mand
10-17-2005, 12:39 PM
Hello W :) 4 days till you get the light. Well you have no choice really all I can think of doing is putting them near a window and be prepared for them streching, so you might have to put some sticks in them to help support them.

I'm just worried about the length of day light they will get this time of year, it's going to be less then 12 hours, what effect it will have on them at this age I don't really know ?
You're just going to have to try it for now and as soon as you get the HPS get them under straight away and run on a 18/6 light cycle. An MH would be much better for the vegitive growing (18/6), but sometimes you just have to work with what you have ;)
If the ballast for the HPS can also take a MH bulb then it would be better to get one of those.

Just give it a try W with what you have and see how it turns out, when you do the next grow you will have learned a lot from this one ;)


good luck ...............mand xxx :)

mand
10-17-2005, 06:45 PM
Hello :) , Well I've got one of my boys to try and get a close up pic of where the stem was pinched.......................it's not very good :o

Anyway you might be able to work out that there is no new growth at the top of the plant and possibly see where the new stems are going to grow off diagonally :)


Sorry but it's the best I can do for now, must get a magnifying glass ;)


love mand xxx :)

WeedyBoyWonder
10-17-2005, 11:14 PM
Thanks alot for you help and advice.

Your plants are impressive to, and i hope you enjoy smoking them.

Im gonna take pics as i go along to, and share them, hopfully i can get advice from people to.

Rezinator
10-18-2005, 01:06 AM
Hi Mand,

Looking at the new pics I see the cam is still putting out those moire patterns or whatever.

Took the liberty and googled digital camera + horizontal line and it came up with many hits that talk about something called "horizontal line noise".

Several cameras from various manufacturers began to produce "horizontal line noise" because of faulty firmware. This "phenomenon" as some reports called it, did not happen when these cameras were new, but after some time of use as I understood it.

Couldn't find conclusive info or visual examples of that malfunction - to see if it applied to what your cam is doing - but it did sound as if the problem was something which those manufactures were making efforts to remedy - possibly at no charge. Like a "recall" of sorts.

You may want to try googling that term to see if your camera's make and model shows up. Maybe they just swap yours for a new one.

Didn't have time to find out for sure tho, sorry.

BukDatAss
10-18-2005, 05:12 AM
Show some recent pics of the room I would like to see how its growing

mand
10-18-2005, 09:12 AM
Hello W :) No problem love, I aways enjoy smoking them ;) and yes if you can some pics would be nice too see :)

Hello Rezinator :) I think I may have solved the pics problem love :) ......................Marc (MB) suggested that I use the "macro" botton on the side of the camera for better close up's, so I have and they seem much better,...................I always wondered what that button was for :o
Anyway I've took a couple more of were the pinching (topping) was done and you can now see it much better :)
Thanks love :)

Hello B :) these were taken about 15 mins ago, so they are quite up to date ;). I think that I'll begin inducing flowering in another day or two so I should end up with plants at about 1 metre in height.................thats the height I like to acheive. once I get to know which the males are then I should have a little bit more space in there.


love mand xxx :)



Oh nearly forgot.....................Thankyou Marc :)

BukDatAss
10-18-2005, 02:29 PM
WoW it looking really goood

BukDatAss
10-19-2005, 04:35 AM
Mand how many times have you grown?? Have you been successfull everytime?

mand
10-19-2005, 12:13 PM
Hello B :) , On my first ever attempt the seeds failed to germinate, I had sent off for them from an advert in a magazine. Not one of them sprouted :( .
On my second grow I grew outdoors and everything went fine, I grew a few mexican stavia and some rudrails/indica both were from sensi seeds.
To say we only have a shortish growing season and not a deal of sunshine (we didn't that year) over here they grew pretty well ;)

In 1998 I bought the lamp for indoor growing and since then I have grown 2 or 3 crops a year. I did have a crop fail a while ago because the light bulbs were just worn out with age ..................http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=22341

So I've probably grown somewhere around 17+/- indoor crops over the last 7 years.

love mand xxx :)

PartypokerPlayer
10-20-2005, 04:02 PM
sorry havent been around in a while mand but i hope everything is ok for you.....how old are your plants ? ppp

mand
10-20-2005, 05:58 PM
Hello PPP :) Everything is fine love, thanks for asking :)
The plants will be 7 weeks old this coming weekend. I've swicthed the light cycle to 12/12 today and at this very moment I'm just waiting for the bulb to cool down so that I can change it for the HPS.

So I imagine that if everything keeps going ok, then I should be harvesting this lot around Christmas time ;)

Nice to hear from you PPP.....................love mand xxx :)

BILL THICK
10-21-2005, 04:08 PM
Hello B :) , On my first ever attempt the seeds failed to germinate, I had sent off for them from an advert in a magazine. Not one of them sprouted :( .
On my second grow I grew outdoors and everything went fine, I grew a few mexican stavia and some rudrails/indica both were from sensi seeds.
To say we only have a shortish growing season and not a deal of sunshine (we didn't that year) over here they grew pretty well ;)

In 1998 I bought the lamp for indoor growing and since then I have grown 2 or 3 crops a year. I did have a crop fail a while ago because the light bulbs were just worn out with age ..................http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=22341

So I've probably grown somewhere around 17+/- indoor crops over the last 7 years.

love mand xxx :)


ahh haaa :eek: you see you have been being entirely too modest about your growing ability(lol) :D Couldn't check the boards without sayin hi to ya's. Your grow is looking top shelf.

So how you like those switchable bulb ballast ? they worth it? I would think they are a good thing.

I'm Sort of caught in the limbo of between grows myself. Finding out it can be a bit confusing. trying to finish late starters and trying to reveg and stuff (of course the theives didn't help) but learning its alot simpler to just end one and start anew. developing a perpetual growing schedule will not be all that easy I suppose but thats what I would like to establish eventually.

Got some new babies from seed and looks like my revegged plants are doing great , going to use them to start cloning. I do have a couple clones I started out of desperation when my grow got mangled but they are a bit on the scrawny side so I guess I will keep them in veg phase until my new babies are ready to flower and put them all in flower togeather. :D

here I am rattling on, hope all is well
peace
Bill :D

mand
10-22-2005, 01:21 PM
Hello Bill :) I'm pleased to hear that everything is coming on nicely from the set back that you had ;)

The switchable bulb ballast ?........... Well I was always told and read that it was the best one to get, so that's what I did and it does seem to be a good set up. Mind you I've never tried any of the other set up's so I don't know if they would be any better :confused:
I'll stick with mine anyway ;)

It's good to hear from you Bill :) , I'm affraid I've been kinda busy here this last few days so I've not been able to get on line very much.


I'm just going to add a couple more pics showing the new growth from the pinching (topping), I think know that it can really be seen how the two diagonal stems are growing to make two new main stems.


love mand xxx :)

digitaldog
10-22-2005, 07:30 PM
Hiya mand
Lookin good !! they`ve grown loads even since you topped em and they still lookin very healthy.
Have any started to show sex at all yet?? Was just wondering how many fems u might have there???
i`ve got 4 growin at the mo and 2 of them are showin female sex already and i havn`t even started 12/12 yet.
One of them was showin female pre-flowers and tiny pistils at 5 weeks!! :D
i`m gonna start them on 12/12 in a few weeks and i`ll take ur advice about topping them a week beforehand as u say u get more bud - makes sense really as u`ve got 2 stems to bud instead of one ;)
i had a small problem with orange spots and a few yellowing leaves but i sprayed them with epsum salts and that seems to have sorted the problem( magnesium deficiency so i was told on here -- Thankyou guys)
Oh by the way i`ve got some horse shit aswell now!! hahaha works wonders don`t it. ;)
i`ll post a few pics very soon on my own thread
been great to follow ur grow and good luck agen with the fem/male ratio :D
Digi

mand
10-23-2005, 12:31 PM
Hello Digi :) How many females ?............ well usually out of 16 plants (one packet of seeds) I average about 9 females....................I can't say thats how it will be that's only the average ;)

I have noticed one with two Pre - pubescent buds on, very tiny little pitsels at one of the nodes. This usually indicates that there is a good chance it will be female but the plant looks very male to me, tall and very stong and healthy. Usually the females tend to be my smaller plants with a more bushy look about them.....................anyway time will tell ;)

I've always found that pinching does increase the yeild, I wouldn't say it doubles it or anything like that but it definetely produces more. Try it Digi and I'm sure you will be pleased with the results :)

Yes post some more pics soon, they looked super on the last ones, it will be nice to see their progress :)


love mand xxx :)

BILL THICK
10-24-2005, 01:19 AM
Hey Mand .... :thumbsup: They do look marvelous, good to see your grow progress. I have two 1k hps and a 400MH for veg. Would have been nice to have my 400 MH a switchable . From the prices I checked there isn't a great deal of additional expense other than buying the extra bulb but even that isn't an additional cost in the long run due to the longevity of the bulb not using them both all the time , aye?

Are you able to get the lights close enough to the plants to avoid stretching ....LOL :D just teasing ya.

peace :smokin:
Bill

BukDatAss
10-25-2005, 02:55 AM
So hows the growing going Mand. So how did your plans turn out for the weekend?

mand
10-25-2005, 09:42 AM
Hello Bill :) , Hello B :)

Well I've not really had much time for anything just lately...........a little something called work that kinda crops up now and again to upset my plans :(
Now if I could just find that rich guy so I could pack in the work nonsense all together ;)

Everything seems to be going ok, I think that some of the boys are begining to show themselves.
I've tried to do a pic of the female pre pubescent buds, I'm not sure if you can make out the little pitsels just next to the node from the pic ;)

The other pics are just a general ones to show the mess in there, it will look a bit neater when I get rid of the boys and have a little more space.


love mand xxx :)



Oh I tried to get a pic of the suspected boys but they didn't turn out very well..................I'll try again later but at the moment affraid I have babysitting duties.................my grandson ;) :)



:) xxx

Powder Puff
10-25-2005, 01:52 PM
How old are they now?:)

mand
10-25-2005, 01:59 PM
Hello PP :) They are 7 weeks and a couple of days. I don't usually induce this early but they have grown very well and I'm trying to get them finished before the real winter weather gets here ;)
After this crop I think I may have a break from growing till about April when the frosts have ended....................then again I've said that before and grew again straight away :o


love mand xxx :)

Powder Puff
10-25-2005, 02:01 PM
Ok..!:)

They are looking goood!:dance:

cheers!:)

fat possum
10-25-2005, 03:16 PM
How do you deal with the security and smell??

mand
10-25-2005, 04:05 PM
Hello FP :) Well the growroom is slightly away from the house and is not overlooked by the neighbours, so there's no problem about them seeing anything. As for the smell, I think it's too far away from the nearest neighbours to smell anything.

A little confession here ;) ......... I have no idea what Cannabis smells like, I have no sense of smell whatsoever, never have had :(
However when the buds are very resinous I can taste something in the air, but actually smell it affraid not.

love mand xxx :)

fat possum
10-25-2005, 04:39 PM
Thankyou and good luck :stoned:

mand
10-26-2005, 04:54 PM
Hello :) Well I've got a little problem :(
I have said before that growing this time of year I have no worries about humidity..........................well just to prove me wrong, I've got a problem with it :o :)

It's due to the weather we are having, it keeps raining raining and more raining, add to this very mild weather and it is causing lots of condensation in my growroom :(

Ah well I hope the weather changes soon ;)

The first of the two pics is the celling of my growroom, it's quite damp, and it keeps raining on the plants :o

Never mind I'm sure it will turn out ok...............I hope ;)

Bye for now, love mand xxx :)

digitaldog
10-26-2005, 11:06 PM
mmmmmmm!!
U do seem to be getting quite a bit of water raining down on them there!!!
Not good for the plants really and certainly not good for ur electrics!!!!
Without seeing the room u have there i`m a bit at a loss as to what to suggest.
Do you have any ventilation to the outside?? Generally condensation that bad will only occur if u have heat in a room and no air venting to the outside -- I know cos i live in the uk and i also work on houses so i know about the problems of condensation.
You somehow need to vent air outside - even if it`s just through a few air -bricks or something.
Basically your HPS bulb is heating the air (which contains quite an amazing amount of water in our climate ) the water vapour rises and cools as it reaches your ceiling -it condenses there and there`s ur problem.
If you had some airflow into another room or idealy outside this wouldn`t happen.
If u can`t vent the air outside of ur grow room then the only other thing i could think of is putting a de-humidifier in there which takes all the h2o out of the air
Way my thinkin goes anyway!!! :cool:
Good luck and be careful with them electrics ok!!!
Water and electric!!!!!! Very dangerous!!!!!
Digi

mand
10-27-2005, 01:00 PM
Hello Digi :) Well it's stopped raining so far today and it's drying up outside so I've opened the growroom door, that should help ;)
I've had little bits of condensation before but never this bad.
Oh I've put an old tin tray on top of the ballast thingy to keep the water off it ;)

Plants seem to be doing ok though, I've spotted a couple of males, I'll give them a day or two longer just so I am positive. Also there are a couple of females showing already, it's usually the males first but I have known early females before.

I'm sure everything will be ok with the weather changing :)

As for the air brick idea, well my sons are builders, one of my brothers is a builder and I know theres a few more in the family so I should be able to get someone to fit one for me ;)


Thanks Digi...................love mand xxx :)

mand
10-27-2005, 03:12 PM
Hello :) Right one more little update then I'll shut up for a while..............promise ;)

I knew at the begining that doing a journal type thing was a really bad idea................it's just tempting fate too much for something to go wrong :o

I can see little a few droppy leaves :( ...........Why do I have the feeling this crop is going to be a disaster :o

The first pic is of some male flowers, the second is one of female flowers and the third pic is one showing droppy leaves :(

love mand xxx :)


Oh you might not be able to fully make out the female pitsels, but they are there ..........honest ;)

latewood
10-27-2005, 07:47 PM
can't run out of stash :smokin:


Hello PP :) They are 7 weeks and a couple of days. I don't usually induce this early but they have grown very well and I'm trying to get them finished before the real winter weather gets here ;)
After this crop I think I may have a break from growing till about April when the frosts have ended....................then again I've said that before and grew again straight away :o


love mand xxx :)

latewood
10-27-2005, 08:41 PM
well, if they want to smoke anymore of that pot...Perhaps, you could persuade them to finish off your grow-room, by holding your "Buds" for ransom...lol :p


Hello Digi :) Well it's stopped raining so far today and it's drying up outside so I've opened the growroom door, that should help ;)
I've had little bits of condensation before but never this bad.
Oh I've put an old tin tray on top of the ballast thingy to keep the water off it ;)

Plants seem to be doing ok though, I've spotted a couple of males, I'll give them a day or two longer just so I am positive. Also there are a couple of females showing already, it's usually the males first but I have known early females before.

I'm sure everything will be ok with the weather changing :)

As for the air brick idea, well my sons are builders, one of my brothers is a builder and I know theres a few more in the family so I should be able to get someone to fit one for me ;)


Thanks Digi...................love mand xxx :)

mand
10-28-2005, 02:18 PM
Hello Latewood :) I bet I do grow straight away again, it's so true what you say, keeping a well stocked stash is very important ;)
As for them doing the air brick for me...............Oh they'll do has they are told or they will be be doing their own washing and cooking till it is done.....................I can be quite authoritive at times you know ;) :)


Now this present crop, I don't know it made a really good start but it looks kinda "limpish" to me at the moment :(
They are still growing and the flowers are starting to show. I've got rid of two males now and there are another two suspect. There are also I think four females showing now.

I'm wondering if the pots they are in maybe a little to small, the males were very very dense with roots..................I don't know I'll see how they go ;)


Oh and if I have any money left over after tommorrows shopping trip :rolleyes: I might just go to the market this Sunday to see what other seeds the chap has :)



love mand xxx :)

mand
10-28-2005, 04:10 PM
Hello :)

Well I wasn't going to post an update for a while but I have a feeling that everything is not well :(

The problem is that the leaves are starting to look "limper" by the hour.

You know when anything like this happens, I just wish they would die off so I can start a new fresh lot ;)

feeling kinda sad :( .....................but these things happen ;)


love mand xxx :)

Fugitive
10-28-2005, 04:42 PM
Youll probably have to wait for a more professional opinion, But I think they look great :D not that helps ofcourse... Maaaaaybe hmm lemme think no well OK only thing I can come up with is over watering and I'm sure youve thought of that already :eek:

cnd411
10-28-2005, 04:55 PM
Hi mand,

The pictures suggest that you may be dealing with Phosphorus problem. What medium are growing? How is your pH ? How is the grow rate of your plants ?

mand
10-28-2005, 06:45 PM
Hello Guys :)

The medium is my homemade compost, I've been using that for the last 6 - 7 years with no problems....................but theres always a first time ;)

The Ph value, well that's something I've never bothered about, I know it has something to do with the alkaline and acidity content of the soil but that's it really :o

The rate of growth has been quite phenominal, it is prehaps one of the fastest growing crops I've ever grown.


Over watering is a possibility, you see I have the little condensation problem I described on the last page of this thread, and since that started I've noticed the drooping.
So I've now got the growroom door wide open and a fan blowing in there to try to dry things out ;)

Thankyou guys for you're suggestions I really do appreciate it :)


love mand xxx :)

latewood
10-28-2005, 07:51 PM
Hey Mand, with good genetics, I have found that the roots grow much faster than schwagg...and I just re-potted 2 of my blues and they were borderline rootbound...I re-potted them and they grew an inch overnight...you can do it...I would...latewood
..no food or clean clothes...roflmao........

mand
10-28-2005, 10:17 PM
Hello Latewood :)
Firstly love you're going to have to bear with me on writting this as I am quite ..........well I've had a couple of joint's and it's going to take forever to write it :o

Firstly I don't think it's a nutrient deficany problem, I've never had that before. Also there in seperate pots and this is upseting all the plants, so I'm not convinced it is a nutrient problem ?.

They are definetely root bound in there pots, but then again they always are :o ...............I really should use bigger pots though ;) The next grow I'm going to grow fewer plants and in bigger pots :)

I think it's the condensation/humidity problem it's bad. Of course I made it worse I noticed the leaves drooping and I thought they were thirsty, so I watered them more :o . It's that bad that the door has swelled up so much I have to use a screwdriver to prise it open :(

Anyway I have the door open and a fan blowing in there despretely trying to dry the place out.
I really have never know it this bad before.




Oh dear that took some typing :stoned:


love mand xxx :)




Oh Latewood :) can you tell me what Schawgg is :o

latewood
10-29-2005, 02:22 AM
excuse my french...shitweed!

latewood
10-29-2005, 02:47 AM
I have a real good...Oh before I forget; you know I was answering your question. Not calling your plants shitweed, right? right!...
...Ok I have a real good option for you...I read this on a site called treatingyourself.com...
It is a mmj site/community-canada...anyway, one of their
Moderators; Pflover, replied in a thread about replanting...something along these lines... :thumbsup:

Just lay an unopened bag of potting mix on it's side, slice an X in the middle,

the same diameter as your little pots, then take plant to be re-potted and

remove it from pot and set it in a hole I dugout in the opening of the bag.

Then scratch up the outer sides of the rootball and work into a nice mound.

Poke holes in the bottom of the bag water and watch her thrive...

I think this is good advice...In your case, Mand, I thought that this would be a simple remedy to your need for root growth...and your wetness problems.

Take your compost and put it in a heavy trashbag...tie it up...set it beside

plant to be repotted...cut hole in bag...scoop out enough to make a hole for

your baby, and set her in there. don't forget drainage. this wouldn't work for

everybody, but it sure could be a quick-save for you...

...the idea has got to be tried by somebody...latewood

mand
10-29-2005, 08:41 AM
Hello Latewood :)

I'm still trying to dry the place out, I have the door open and the fan blowing in there ;)
I like the sounds of what you suggest but I'm just going to give it a litle more time to grow as normal because I'm really tight for space.

I used to grow them in smaller pots than this :eek: that's why I never worried about the roots.

Anyway like I said at the begining of this thread it's probably a bad idea to do a journal in case they all die.................. :( . It will be such a shame if that happens because up untill now it really has been one of the fastest grows I've ever done.

Well today I am just about to go out shopping :) , so Ill leave the door open and fan on and see what happens.

Thankyou Latewood ;) .........................love mand xxx :)

RoboGro
10-30-2005, 06:35 AM
Hi Mand, I just wanted to say thanks for your postings on here. I'm new to growing and have been reading ALOT of the threads on this site. So many helpful people sharing, way cool! :pimp:

I'm on my second grow right now and find that I'm really pulled to your growing philosophy of keeping it simple. On the first gro I started with three seedlings, two died and the third turned out to be a male. With this gro I started with ten seedlings and only two died. They're in a rather small fish tank and maybe a bit crowded but if I cut the light back in another two weeks and remove the males I think I should be able to bend the remaining females around into the open spots and get some good secondary growth. I'm also using your stick idea and getting them use to the idea of bending in the direction that I belive I'm going to want them to go.

Any feedback that you or the other super growers on here could give me would be much appreciated.

The first pic is an overview of the tank, the second pic is of the "Baby Girl" she hasn't changed apperance in the two weeks these gals have been growing. I've sorta become attached to her and would like to see her make it. :o Any ideas?

mand
10-30-2005, 08:21 AM
Hello RoboGro :) It would be lovely to see them all make it this time love ;)

My main suggestion would be to carefully get them all into seperate pots.
Cannabis plants really have very exstensive roots and will become really entangled when grown in the same tub.
You don't mention what lights you are using, but then again I only really know anything about the one I use which is a 400 watt interchangable MH/HPS ballast. However there are lots of threads and posts on here about lights.


I am having a few problems here at the moment with droopy leaves :(
You see the thing is I'm not used to having growing problems, normally I just put them in the growroom and leave them to it ;) so when a problem arises I am kinda left a little puzzled by it. Although I do think it's due to the damp/humidity in there.
Anyway I have the fan on now and the growroom door open and they have not gotten any worse...............I just hope they start to pick up soon :o

I know that really I should follow Latewoods advice on re-potting them (or re-bagging them ;) ) but I'm just trying to hang on and see if they will recover without the extra work :o


Anyway RoboGro, give some thought about seperating them and keep posting about any questions you have, there are lots of people on here who can help with advice.
Oh, and keep us updated on how they are going on.


Good luck .........................love mand xxx :)

mand
10-31-2005, 04:43 PM
Hello :) Just a very very quick update ;)

Well the growroom is drying out, still a way to go yet though, I've held of watering the plants for the last 3 days...............shows how much I overwatered them :o
However they seem to be recovering now, just a few droopys remaining.
Up to now I have removed 3 males, there are a few not showing their sex yet but there a quite a few females :)


I'll just post some pics taken a little while ago............ ;)


love mand xxx :)


Oh the white bits on some of the leaves are where I dropped some plant food :o

latewood
10-31-2005, 07:07 PM
My biggest concern is that they have been that wet for days...and they are in the perfect cycle to replant :thumbsup: ...Just egging you on a bit...hope it all works out, xoxo, :p latewood

ps...it wouldn't take 15 minutes...
signed by the committee :cool: for drying up overly-damp/rained on marijuana plants :smokin:

mand
10-31-2005, 07:37 PM
Hello Latewood :) I absolutely agree with you love, now would be the ideal time to re pot them........................but I'm going to carry on as they are :o
Honestly love they will be fine............promise ;) .........I hope :o


I do dumb things from time to time you know ;) . I once had a really great big fully budded female and she started wilting really bad. Anyway I was really at a loss as to what was up with the thing, no matter whaat I did it would not recover :(
Then I noticed something, I used to tie them to the sticks with knots that wouldn't loosen, so the string was cutting into the stem, it was basicaly strangling the thing. So now I always make sure the knots will slip open with the growing :o

The thing is I am a very lazy grower, I want to grow Cannabis with as little effort and exspense as possible. So I'm just going to leave them as they are for now ;)

Thanks Latewood ....................love mand xxx :)

KenoSmoker
11-01-2005, 03:01 AM
lookin really good mand!

9ski9
11-01-2005, 03:59 AM
"The thing is I am a very lazy grower, I want to grow Cannabis with as little effort and exspense as possible. So I'm just going to leave them as they are for now"

Mand, I come by and visit your grow thread when I'm finished stressing over my own details, just for a sense of peace. You're definitely a hippie chick grower and I mean that with all due respect...I really dig your style of growing.

mand
11-01-2005, 01:48 PM
Hello Keno :) Thankyou love but in all honesty I'll be glad to see the back of this grow :o it really is becoming to be a bit of a pain. The problem with the droopy leaves is something I haven't had to deal with before, but the plants are still growing and hopefully as soon as they get to a decent stage of budding they will be harvested.
At the moment I have got rid of five boys, there are eleven plants remaining and I think most are girls but there are a few that are not showing any signs of their sex yet.
It's such a shame about this crop, on the vegitive growing they grew at one of the fastest rates I have ever seen but since inducing flowering I am quite dissapointed with their progress.
However that's how it goes, win some lose some ;)


Hello 9ski9 :) .........Awwww thankyou for the nice words, however like I said above this crop is becoming a real pain and I will be very pleased to see the back of them so I can start again and hopefully have a straight forward crop next time ;)
I do like the plants to grow healthy and produce as much bud as possible but at the end of the day as long as there is enough to get me thourgh to the next harvest, that's all that matters ;)

I must show you're post to my kids ("You're definitely a hippie chick grower"), you see to them I'm just an old fogie who nags them too much :)


Thanks guys......................love mand xxx :)

PartypokerPlayer
11-02-2005, 06:54 AM
Mand,
My dear i must say great minds think alike....just a small update back for you on my end i had the same plan 2 months ago to have another harvest b4 X-mas ...altho my garden isnt compareable to yours, i only planted 2 plants under my 400 and hoped for 1 female this time to so fewer plants could hord the light.....last grow was 6 females and it was a bit to crowed for my liking ....ill try to get some pix out for you soon,,,mine have been flowering long enuff to both show sex and i have 2 lovely ladys out of 2 pics.......one is a purple strain......and the other is a skunk # 1....non feminized seeds...i have strange luck lol...out of all my growing ive never once hand a male......and i know the count is up to atleast 20 or so.....and im gonna be starting new babies :-) that way when its time to pick its time to flower again..........hope to see some new pics and new updates on yours....later hun XXX
PPP

mand
11-02-2005, 04:02 PM
Hello PPP :) it's nice to hear from you :)

Well what can I tell you about the situation here, it's not good :( , I think that there is a good chance of losing the present crop :o
Up to now I have gotten rid of five males, leaving eleven plants, out of those there are three little runts that aren't even showing signs of their sex yet. Also the runts seem to be suffering the worst.
I still think it is the conditions in the growroom although it has dried out quite well and the compost is quite dry now also.
I don't think it's a nutrient problem because it has effected all the plants at the same time.
It doesn't seem like lighting problem neither, when I lost a previous crop it was the HPS bulb worn out with age. When that happened they all turned yellow, withered and died within a couple of days..............this is different.

I am trying to resist Latewood's advice on re-potting because I am trying to just follow my normal growing pattern, however I may yet try that ;)


Like I said at the begining of this journal, I think I might be tempting fate too much by doing a journal :o


I have just included a few pics of the current situation...........guess I'll carry on and see what happens ;)


love mand xxx :)

HappySmoke
11-02-2005, 10:56 PM
Mand,

Can't tell there is anything wrong by your pictures. They all appear to be healthy. Don't think it is time for any drastic measures. Just relax. Everything will be fine.

mand
11-02-2005, 11:12 PM
Hello HappySmoke :) I'll have to try and get a few better pics because I'm really thinking that they are on there way out ............honestly they don't look anything like what they normally should at this stage :o

Anyway love just as a little test to satisfy myself I've put the MH bulb back in tonight and I'm going to keep a close eye on their progress over the next week or so. I know the MH is far from ideal for flowering but it's just to see if it will perk them up a bit ;) if it does then I think the HPS may be a faulty bulb.

I don't usually have this much to do with them but then again I don't usually have problems like this ...................to be honest it's kinda putting the "stress" into growing :(


love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
11-03-2005, 02:24 AM
MAND UR A PRO, Just do what feels right go with ur gut feelings if you think somethings up it just might, I pretty sure you'll do good.. good luck :rasta:

Starchild
11-03-2005, 04:10 AM
I enjoy reading your journal//

mand
11-03-2005, 11:34 AM
Thankyou B :) Well the situation now is I have put the MH bulb back in, so what I'm going to do is give them a about a week under that and see if they get any perkier (is that how you spell perkier :confused: :o ). If they do then I will put back in the HPS just too see if they go down hill again ;)
If they do go down hill then the bulb is faulty.
You see I'm trying to avoid buying another bulb because the HPS has only been used on the last grow and they cost £30 each :eek:

Now on the other hand if they don't perk up under the MH bulb in a week then I'm just going to stick the HPS back in and then they are on there own ;)


Thankyou Starchild :) I'm pleased that you like it :)
I have to admit though that this grow has become a hassel, I don't like problems :(
Anyway like I said above that's the plan now that's all I'm doing from now on, if they make it to harvest then excellent, if they don't I'll just start again ;)
All I'm going to do is the little experiment with the bulbs, I'm not doing anymore faffing around with them after that.


Bye for now, love mand xxx :)




Just a little addition ..............actually on the pics they don't look that bad but if you saw them in the flesh so to speak and compared them to how they normally are ......there is a difference ;) xxx

Fugitive
11-03-2005, 04:26 PM
Hi Mand :) Maybe it is the humidity in the growroom that is not getting you youre desired results :confused: Is it in a shed? maybe you could move the growroom inside :thumbsup: hehe in the cover of darkness :stoned: or somewhere else where it is dryer because if it is humidity then mould can grow :( oh I am missing my baby already so worried wont see it until tomorrow :o Maybe you are just being overly worried because it looks good to moi! :rasta:

mand
11-04-2005, 03:11 PM
Hello Fugitive :) it's a brick built out house type of thing love. I thought I'd just update the sitiation again but it's not very good :(

Firstly I got rid of one more male, luckly it was the sickly looking runt so that's ok ;) so I'm left with ten females.
The growroom now is dry and the compost was dry so I just gave them a little water.
I put the HPS bulb back in last night and they seem to have gone all droopy again .................it's starting to make me think that the bulb is faulty, so tonight I'm going to put MH back in again and this time I will leave it in a few days and see if they pick up again, if they do I think I will have to buy a new HPS bulb :(
I have to admit I am really puzzled by this grow, everyone says the bulb won't do that and I agree with them.....................but I'm really starting to wonder :confused:

I'll just add a couple of pics from today ;)


Ah well never mind bonfire night tomorrow, fireworks, hot dogs and roast chestnuts...................something to look forward to :)


love mand xxx :)

BILL THICK
11-04-2005, 10:17 PM
:D Hiya Mand!! sorry to read your having problem with your grow but you know whats up, hopefully it will get better, I'm sure of one thing and that is everyone on these boards is rooting for ya and ya plants. :) Really cool journal regardless ;)

Been a lil out of pocket, so haven't been posting for awhile . All is well, and wanted to say hi , write more in a bit when have a bit more time

Bill :D

mand
11-06-2005, 03:03 PM
Hello Bill :) I'm affraid it's being a really busy and hetic weekend here what with work, firework parties and well getting a little bit worse for wear last night :o

Anyway strange thing is when I put the MH bulb in it seems to make the plants happy and perk up a bit................I'm sure that HPS is faulty I think I'm going to take it back to the shop as it was only used on the last crop.
Also I'm starting to think my growroom roof has a leak, it was dry in there but we have had plenty of rain and it's looking a little bit damp again :(

Well the final total of females seems to be 10, which is not bad out of 16. The flowering is starting to pick up now as well so I've included a few more photo's ;)

As soon has I find time I must take that bulb back and try another ;)

nice to hear from you Bill.......................love mand xxx :)


Oh the white bits on the leaves is where I dropped a bit of plant food on them.................it don't do them much good does it :o

Starchild
11-06-2005, 07:57 PM
Beautiful babies.Last night I was out until 3am and boy am I tired..

BkSkillz
11-06-2005, 08:32 PM
sorry to comeout of no where but since u brougth up a lighting problem i was wondering if 400w 50,000 lumens light would b anywhere near adaquent for my first grow 4to 6 seedlings in a closet grow in hopes of a couple/few females any response would b highly appreciated..and very inspiring thread keep up da good grow

mand
11-06-2005, 11:22 PM
Hello Starchild :) oh dear love a late night for you as well, I know the feeling I'm absolutely worn out today ;)
We had a bonfire night party last night and I did get a little .......well wasted :o
Lots of family and friends came round and it was a really nice evening.
I'll just tell you about a friend from work who came, well it was her husband really, he bought a little cannabis with him and said to me that I had to try it as it was really "good stuff". Oh dear I smoked a joint and it really was the weakest weed I have ever had, to be honest my leaves are far more potent.
Anyway I gave him a joint of mine, well the poor bloke his face went a funny grey colour and he had to go and have a lie down in the spare bedroom. When my friend (his wife) went to check on him he was totally fast asleep.
I know I shouldn't but that made me smile ;)

Hello BkSkillz :) 400 watt for 4-6 seedlings sounds plenty to me love ;)
I use a 400 watt lamp and I generally start of with a pack of 16 seeds and the results are ok ;)
This grow as been causing me a few problems though, as you can see :o but I'm hoping it will all turn out ok in the end :)

When you start the grow BkSkillz, please let us know how it goes, do a little journal :)

Good luck :)


love mand xxx :)

mand
11-07-2005, 04:38 PM
Hello :)

Well I'm starting to think I should rename this thread "How not to grow Cannabis" :o
For a start I'm running a MH bulb at present, I will try the HPS one more time later in the week to see if it effects the plants again.
Then these are the sickest looking plants I have ever grown, all the fan leaves look droopy :(
The growroom refuses to dry out properly, when I have the door shut at night the condensation just keeps forming on the celling.
They are flowering but there is no sign of any sticky resin yet.
Oh and I just found two male flowers on one of the plants.

This grow is really driving me up the wall ...................but never mind there only plants ;)


love mand xxx :)


Oh and if I go off line for a while..................I'm having a sulk :rolleyes:

BILL THICK
11-08-2005, 01:04 AM
Hiya Mand, :D Your plants really don't look that sickly to me, but you are able to see the changes that may not be apparant to everyone looking at the pics. The patience one must aquire to let ones grow flourish at it's best under any set of given enviromental situations or methods sometimes escapes me, myself. I find myself sometimes over reacting to noticeable but really insignificant changes in my plants and on the flip side I have found myself overly tending to my plants in ways that (if they don't have any problems)leave the plants in a state of recovery from my over zealous attempts to care for them. Sometimes, the bottom line being, I am better off stepping back and letting them do their thing. ;) Now I realize your are an experienced grower with many more grows behind you than many of us, certainly more grows indoors than me but the concept of patience does escape us all at times and maybe , just maybe now the transition from veg to flowering on this grow may be just a little more difficult than your used to, after all isn't this one of your first grows indoors that you have changed your lighting from MH to HPS for flowering?? Maybe they aren't really doing as poorly as you think?? I noticed on my last grow that the slower sicklier plants at first when put into flowering towards the end were actually the best of the bunch.

On the subject of the MH and HPS lights, and since you seem to be narrowing the possibilities down to the lights being a factor, could it possibly be a heat factor?? If I am not mistaken a 400 watt HPS bulb puts out more heat than a 400 watt MH doesn't it? Perhaps the difference in tempature from the bulbs was just enough to have effected the plants?? Since the light you have is a switchable ballast and all you had to do was change the bulbs it would be real easy to change them and not the distance of the lights from the plants when you switched the bulbs for flowering with your HPS. Perhaps the light with the Hps bulb was too close??? I don't know but Just a little food for thought, like I said they look pretty good to me. :thumbsup:

Fireworks? Bonfires? :confused: what was the occasion, Holloween? or do you have Halloween in the UK? LOL I usually relate fireworks to the fourth of july (independence day)lol! Of course getting Blazed till the wee hours I can relate to just about any of the 365 days of the year. No..... not all 365 days but any one of the 365(or probably for me more like the majority of the 365 days)as certainly, I am proned to be wasted more than just one day a year...lol :D

Well I better stop here before I take another toke of the bong and turn this into a chapter :dance:

peace Darlin,
Bill

mand
11-08-2005, 02:19 PM
Hello Bill :) I always use the HPS for flowering and never have any trouble................except for the one time when I lost a crop because the bulb was worn out with age, mind you Bill I'm starting to wonder if that was the actual problem now :confused:
As for this present crop I really don't know what the problem is ????, but anyway I've given up hasseling about it ;)
The buds are starting to come on now but there is absolutely no signs of the resin yet, normally at this stage there is quite a bit of resin on the buds and the leaves. Prehaps they are late developer's :rolleyes:
The tempreture is fine, honestly Bill I've grown them in there when it's been the middle of summer and really hot and sticky, also in the depths of winter when you can see you're breath in there but they managed to grow and produce a harvest ;)

I will just put the HPS back in a few days from now and see what happens but other than that they are on their own from now.


Oh Bonfire night (5th November) that's Guy Fawkes night, you know the bloke who tried to blow Parliment up ;) It's traditional that everyone lets of fireworks for the kids whilst the adults get drunk :)
The thing is I don't smoke everyday maybe twice a week but when I do I like to know I've had a smoke, I'm not stingy with it ;)
However on Saturday I really got totally wasted because I had quite a few Vodkas as well :o
Hmmmm Cannabis and Vodka.................well we all have our little vices ;)


lovely to hear from you Bill, take care and I'll see you soon ............

love mand xxx :)

mand
11-10-2005, 07:30 PM
Hello :) well last night I put the HPS back in the growroom and by this afternoon the plants had gone droopy again :(

The last few days they have been under the MH bulb and have started to pick up quite a bit :)

So what I am going to do now is to finish this grow under the MH and when I start the next crop I will just do it as normal, vegitive growth - MH........flowering -HPS and then if there are problems I will have to replace the HPS bulb.
I really can't say 100% that it is the HPS bulb at fault but I'm thinking it more than likely is ;)

Anyway I'll just put on a coupe of pics from yesterday under the MH bulb and then I'll add a couple from today so that you can see how they have drooped under the HPS.

love mand xxx :)

mand
11-10-2005, 07:35 PM
Me again :o

Todays after nearly twelve hours under the HPS :(

love mand xxx :)

digitaldog
11-10-2005, 11:35 PM
hello Mand
sorry 2 hear ur havin probs with ur grow there hun
i`ve been away for a few weeks!! left a m8 in charge of mine while i was away and thankfully i came home to some healthy plants ( i put a few pics of them on my own thread tonight)
At 1st i thought ur problems were definately due to ur condensation - looked really bad and all that water running down on them will do them no good! specially with the lights on too!! but now i think ur right.
although it`s a little difficult to tell from just pics -- ur plants are definately lookin worse as soon as you put that hps over them :(
If i was U - for the sake of 30 quid i`d rush a new hps bulb in the mail !!
i`d rather that than lose an entire crop that to be honest is lookin fantastic!!!
U never had probs b4 when switching bulbs?? was gonna suggest that maybe it`s a heat difference or sommat but i`m sure you know by now - u`ve had enough grows under ur belt to know!!
Dont give up on them cos there`s a 1000 people on here that dream of having plants like them!!!! :D :D :D
Good luck mand
Digi

mand
11-11-2005, 03:07 PM
Hello Digi :) Well everyone keeps telling me it can't be the lights and I really had to agree with them but the plants don't seem to be listening :o :)
After just a few hours back under the MH and they look much happier.

It looks like I will be finishing this crop off under the MH though. Well I have a few Birthdays to buy for, a great big pile of bills to pay and then there's Christmas coming up so I'm going to need every penny I can find for the next month or so :(
Anyway it will be intresting to compare how the flowering goes under a MH bulb ;)
I've quite a large stash put aside from the last crop so I've no worries there and I'l get a new HPS bulb after Christmas.

I'll just add some pics that show how they have picked up after about 7 hours under the MH bulb.


love mand xxx :)

fat possum
11-12-2005, 04:52 PM
:smokin: Maybe something funny got in the compost

mand
11-12-2005, 07:00 PM
Hello FP :) .....................hmmmm probably to much horse poo ;)

I'm sure the compost is ok .......................I hope :o

I'm not even sure that the HPS is faulty it worked great last time and all it's done is sit in a box since then. I just think it's a combination of things that have caused the plants to react badly to the HPS :confused:

Anyway they are on their own now, I'm sure there will be a harvest, probably not a very dynamic one but there will be one ;)

We shall see what happens next time, that will be in the depths of winter :eek: and I will try the same bulb again but if there are any problems then I will have to get a new one ;)

love mand xxx :)


Ok then I have the house all to myself tonight :) so it's a case of phone of the hook, a couple of spliffys, a couple of vodka and oranges and a nice sloppy film ........................no more posts of me for tonight ;)

BILL THICK
11-13-2005, 05:44 AM
oh myyyyyy........ like to be in the UK , stonoya(spelling) silver label?
in a chimney glass just enough oj to give it some color mmmmmm..... :dance:

your the bomb , mand, love how you word things, kind of enticingly sexy,
Bill :D

mand
11-13-2005, 11:59 PM
Hello Bill :) , Ah well Bill an evening curled up on the sofa alone though love :(

Only kidding Bill ;) most of the time there's always someone wanting something from me, being it a family member or a work. So to get an evening just doing my own thing is like a little piece of heaven for me :)
Just to be able to relax with a little homegrown a little drop a the old vodka (Smirnoff ;) ), a great big bar of my favourite chocy :) whilst watching the "African Queen" is pure unadultrated bliss :)


Hmmm I think I'm going of the subject of growing cannabis a little.................never mind ;) . When I started this journal and the plants were growing better than I have ever seen before I thought "oh great looks like a absolutely fantastic grow to make a little journal off", but it looks like it's going to end up being just a very mediocore type grow :o .
However never mind like I always say as long as there is enough for me and it's cheaper than buying it, well that's all that matters ;)
Now if I could just learn how to distill my own vodka, I'd have it made :)

Always so lovely to hear from you Bill................by the way I haven't got a clue what to do with those bloody Ants ;)



love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
11-14-2005, 03:43 PM
nice to see ur plants are growing along nicely, I hope your still on when i start my

grow Mand which should be in a week or so? :confused:

BILL THICK
11-15-2005, 08:14 AM
Perhaps the grow may not be going well from your vantage point but it looks pretty good to me. And be it good or mediocre your journal is useful to everyone who reads it. we learn by trial and error and < though unfortunate> we probably learn more by mistakes so if we can learn by others it can be nothing less than useful. So I don't think anyones grow journal can be anything less than appreciated. So now what??LOL :D

Distilling Smirnoff.......hmmmmm what a thought, grow room and distillary both running under the same CO2 bottle, what a concept :stoned:

Oh and the ants ..... been a full on war, the buggers are wearing flack vest lol. tried spraying them with dish soap . Seemed to ward them off for a lil while but when i watered all the buckets started bubbling over with suds from the dishsoap LMAO so anyway seems first rounds been a draw, I mean waht can ya say when four thousand ants are rolling on the floor laughing at cha? :D TOO FUNNY!

Peace(with everybody but the ants :D )
Bill

mand
11-15-2005, 09:07 AM
Oh dear Bill That made has made my morning :) just the thought of soap suds every where and the ants probably wondering "what's this guy up too" , while having a chuckle about it all :)
Hey do you think I should check out any sites on how to "distill you're own",.................. eeerrr then again that does sound technical :o think I'll just stick to the odd "booze cruise" for it ;)


Hello BDA :) I should be still here, I hope I'm still here..................unless the police are reading this and decide to pay me a little vist :eek:
Yes do a little grow log ;) I look forward to that :)



Ok an update :o ...........Well for a start I got the numbers wrong :rolleyes: , there aren't ten females, there's nine.................my fault I just can't count ..........sorry :o

Anyway there still under the MH, I'm just not sure if the HPS is faulty or if there are other conditions making the plant's react badly to it :confused:
The flowering is coming along slowly and the resin production is starting to come along even slower. Mind you there's still away to go yet, I think a harvest around Christmas time.

I'll just add a few pics from this morning ;)


love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
11-16-2005, 08:42 AM
Mand i recieved all my supplies for my 1st grow. I just need to set up my closet Im planning to grow 4 - 6 plants but i wanna know how do you germ ur seeds? and I have 10 seeds whats the ratio for all those guys to hatch from ur experience

mand
11-16-2005, 11:10 AM
Hello B :) I find that the best way to germinate seeds is the paper towel method.
Put about four or five sheets of kicthen roll on a plate and give them a sprinkling of water but drain off all the excess. Put the seeds on the damp sheets and cover with another four or five layersand damp them. Just remember you want them damp not with pools of water on them. You can use toilet roll but it kinda disintergrates, kitchen roll is better ;)

Then just put them out the way somewhere, an "airing cupboard"/"hot water tank cupboard" is fine, it's dark and the tempreture is nice and even. However it's really not too important were they are put, I'm just telling you my favourite place ;)
Remember to check them now and again and make sure they don't dry out. As soon as the sprout appears put it in the soil, with the sprout end pointing downards.................just remember "pointy end down"................and that's it :)


Oh dear B it's really immpossible to tell how many will germinate, on my first ever try none at all germinated, but I always use Sensi Seeds now and the germination rate is usually 100%, there is the odd time that one or two might fail. It just really depends on the seeds you have, there age and just their quality. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you .............good luck :)


love mand xxx :)

BILL THICK
11-16-2005, 09:19 PM
Glad I could make you smile, it looks like the war with the ants is over I got some stuff that had skull and cross bones all over it. Sprayed around grow area but not on plants, next day only a few ant beach towels and beach balls remained lol.

Your plants are looking up aye mand? hope so!

I use paper towels or just a wash cloth folded over for germinating seeds. Why do you use like five layers of towels top and bottom?

Tried ole Harddons hash oil method with some trimmings , water leaves and added a few buds for good measure and got a small amount of oil but it is definitely good :smokin: Considering it was made with what is otherwise normally useless leavesand all it's pretty good. Certainly worth the effort and it is really very easy to do. Noticed you kept the recipe, ya ought to give it a whirl.

The "African Queen" aye??? ;)
ya think they have a site on how to distill Vodka?? If not you could always start one lol ;)

talk at ya later sexy,
Bill

BukDatAss
11-17-2005, 05:24 AM
Thanks Mand. about how long do they take to sprout?

mand
11-17-2005, 11:57 AM
Hello B :) again it depends on the seeds and the variety to some degree, but normally they should germinate within just a couple of days.........usually two days ;)



Hello Bill :) yep the Skull and crossbones ones always seem to do the trick ;) :)

Oh the paper towels, well I always like a few good layers so they retain the moisture and don't dry out so easily................I usually only have to dampen them the once at the begining ;)

I don't think I'll bother with the still just yet Bill, blimey if the authorities come around here I'll be in enough trouble as it is now, with a still as well they would throw away the key :o

I may just try the "Hash Oil", when I have time :o , I've heard of it before and have been told it's really rather good :)


Oh yes I like most of the old films especailly the soppy ones ;) but then again I don't think you can beat a good horror film. I like to watch them when alone with all the lights out..........scare myself silly, it's ok I'm still a little girl at heart :o





Hmmm the plants ..........well they are flowering (slowly) but the resin is starting to show now.
However the tempreture is dropping at night, there has been a few frosts, so this will slow down the plants metobolic rate a bit.


Here's just a few pics but there's not too much happening ;)


love mand xxx :)

stickygreenlightsabr
11-17-2005, 03:20 PM
Yummy!

BukDatAss
11-21-2005, 06:03 AM
Nice job Mand, I have my closet half way built with 2 hours of labor it should

be done. I'm going to start germ the seeds tomorrow, I'm excited but I'm

also scared I hope I do well my first grow. Oh do u recommend anything

with my soil for my seedlings I read about your horse poo but I think I'll be

hard to get here in the city, so anything else you can recommend? :o

mand
11-21-2005, 09:22 AM
Hello S :) ;)


Hello B :) Don't worry love, there's lots of imformation on here that will help you along with the grow ;)
Well I do like to use my own compost, however the main reason I started using it was simply it was for free, and I just chuck everything in it grass cuttings, dead plants, vegatable peelings and yes horse poo :) ..........basiclly anything that will rot down easily.
However I've used bags of compost from the garden centre before, infact I might be doing that on my next grow, at the moment my compost heap is frozen solid and when it's like that it's really difficult to dig out.

So don't worry :) if you have any problems you can always ask the guys on here what to do, then just work out which is the best method for you ;)




Well the tempreture has really dropped down now, frosts every night for the last few days so the tempreture in the growroom is low. The plants are still under the MH bulb but they are flowering ok, although there isn't going to be any big buds they are coming on and are spread around quite well ;)
Oh they are starting to get quite sticky with resin as well :)
I'm not going to try the HPS again I'll do that on the next grow and if they have problems then I'll buy another bulb...............this lot is just going to be finished under the MH ;)


love mand xxx :)

BILL THICK
11-22-2005, 11:22 PM
they look real healthy to me Mand. Looks like they are going to pop out some nice buds. Odd that you had problems under your hps light . Curious to see what your findings are on that.

Why do you not think your going to get any big buds ? You pinched them once earlier, aye??

Glad to see they are coming along better for you and great journal !! :dance:

Peace
Bill :D

mand
11-22-2005, 11:43 PM
Hello Bill :) I just called on before bed and saw you're post ;)

I really don't know if the HPS is faulty, all I know is they reacated badly to it............I honestly don't know why, but if it happens again on the next grow then I'll just have to buy a new bulb.
I am trying to avoid that as they cost £30 each :(

Why no big buds ?............... Well Bill they just don't look right to me and the truth is I never really grow massive buds anyway :o
I look at it this way Bill, as long as there is enough for me then I'm happy :) and if the buds are a little small ...........well I just grow more plants ;)
I am pleased to say though that they are getting quite sticky, I know you're not supposed to handle them at all, but I can't help just giving them a little gentle squeeze to see how sticky :o

I can fully understand why the guys on here do like to go to to various lengths with lights and nutrients and all the tech stuff..........they are simply trying to grow the best plants and buds they possibly can, and I have to say some of the results are amazing...........far better than I could ever manage.
However Bill you know me, I'm just set in my ways ;)

Ok I'm just going to finish my last glass of Smirnoff for the evening then time for bed ;)


Goodnight .................love mand xxx :)

BILL THICK
11-23-2005, 06:51 AM
hi Mand! I do the same thing, can't resist giving them a little pinch and giving the fingers a little sniff ! The aroma is hard to beat. I have had some Kush plants, they are so different as far as bud structure and plant size(rather small), but WOW do they ever have a heavy pungent smell to them. :D Wish I could find out how to keep that smell through the drying process.?!

Have you ever considered getting a wee bit technical and trying to grow Hydro with all the fixins?? It's actually alot of fun and you might find it interesting and a bit challenging. Of course you would have to spend a lil more time at it and that may be difficult if your busy like you suggest you are. I don't know but you might consider it? :p ;)

I think its great that you grow for your needs and it looks like you have got that down, that's cool. As long as your happy that's all that counts. ;)

Well it's astonishing that you are a grandma, and just had ta tell ya you look great for a mom and a grandma both :thumbsup:

Well it's my time for sleep too, It's always nice to read your post, thanks, sweet dreams
Peace
Bill :D

mand
11-24-2005, 11:55 PM
Hello Bill :) To be truthfull love I have absolutely no idea what cannabis or anything else smells like, I have no sense of smell whatsoever :o
Tell you what with Christmas coming up I always get perfume given me for pressies and I just haven't got a clue what it smells off................for all I know I can be going around smelling like a donkeys backside and wouldn't know ;) :)

Have I considered going "Hydro" ?.............Well I have had people tell me that it's not really too difficult but I just never really fancied it, who knows maybe one day I might :confused:

Hmmm, being a grandma :) Well Bill it made me age an entire generation in one night ;)
You know Bill I was actually present at his birth. You see the dad :rolleyes: I'll call him that just to be polite, had long since scarpered of the scene.
My daughter came into labour at saturday tea time, so I ran her down to the maternity ward and a few hours later I was a granny :)
I have to say though if I had ever had seen a baby being born before I had mine, there is no way I would have had kids :o



Well I think I'm going of the subject of growing cannabis here :o so I'll just add a few bud pics taken today .................try and put the thread back on track ;)
It's very cold outside now and it's very cold in the growroom, they are under the MH bulb................however the buds are coming along ok-ish :)

I reckon about 4 weeks to harvest...............Christmas :)


love mand xxx :)

Rekap
11-25-2005, 05:59 AM
wow mand, flowers look like their comming on nicely :p

im going to be harvesting about a week after you, if things all go to plan...how much do you think your going to get out of your harvest? how many teenagers do you have growing in there?

Fugitive
11-25-2005, 07:33 PM
Looks very good to say the least :D I can't wait to see how much you yield, how come you don't have a sense of smell? has it always been like that? sorry if this is a touchy subject :o \ its bloody freezing where im at (london) do you think it will have an impact ont he plants? maybe you should get a heater :cool:

mand
11-25-2005, 08:11 PM
Hello Fugitive :) oh no it's not a touchy subject at all :) I've never had any sense of smell, to be honest because I have never had it I've never missed it ;)
Mind you when I'm cutting he plants I can taste something off them in the air, it's a very strange and strong taste.

Yes it's very cold around here in the Midlands, I have got a small greenhouse heater which I can use, not sure if I will use it on this lot though but when I start the next seedlings then I will use it ;)

Hello Rekap :) Hmmm how much ?....................Well it's not going to be anything to get excited about I'm affraid :o To be honest this grow has been a pain in the backside :(
When I started this grow I thought it was going to be a straight forward crop that would yeild a kinda average amount of bud. However with all the problems it's just going to be a really mediocore harvest I'm affraid.
Tell you what I'll just do a little update on todays problem ;)


Well the plant which I was shocked when it started showing female flowers (I thought it was going to be male), has turned all hermmie on me :o
I noticed quite a few male flowers mixed in with the female buds, I tried to pick them out but they were so spread around that I would have had to cut away much more than I would have liked too.
Anyway I thought to save the rest of the crop from being at risk from pollunation I would cut it............very early but it is resinous so I have salvaged something from it :)

Anyway I suppose that this journal has showed just how many problems can occur when growing :o

I'll just add a couple pics, in the first one I was trying to show some of the male fowers, you can't see them all but near the top on the left hand side there are a couple showing.
The second pic is whats left of the plant after I had been at it with the sisscors......................she is now hanging up drying .............not a total lose though it was quite resinous so it will still be very smokeable ;)


love mand xxx :)

Rekap
11-26-2005, 12:01 AM
wow mand sorry to hear about that, good luck with the rest of your ladies :p

Rekap_

p.s. wanna adopt an american? :p

mand
11-26-2005, 01:49 AM
Hello again Rekap :) not to worry love ;) there's a few good joints off that one anyway.
I must admit it's kinda like a production line with the growing..........I just never seem to stop, has soon as one crop has finished I start another :o

You know when I started this journal I thought, Ah this is a good way of showing how to grow a crop the easy way ;) but it just seems to have been one problem after another. However I don't mind at all, you see it's been a good learning experience for me, I have found out that my methods aren't foolproof :o
With the problems of the condensation, the droopy leafs, the bad reaction to the HPS and then the appearance of a herrmie. It's learned me that my methods are far from perfect and still need a bit of fine tuning ;)

Do I want to adopt an American :eek: .................anytime :) since coming on this site I have found them to be really lovely people ;)


love mand xxx :)

Rekap
11-26-2005, 02:13 AM
ya! so when can i fly out? :p

take a peek at my journal and let me know what you think, i got a new camera so the pics are like 5454254-7974587040985794235 times better :p

Rekap_

BOYZNUS
11-26-2005, 04:06 AM
MAND, US AMERICANS ARE AWSOME. AND I APPOLIGIZE NOW IF I MISSED IT IN A THREAD SOMEWHERE,,, BUT HOW FAR INTO FLOWERING ARE U?

mand
11-27-2005, 07:03 AM
Hello Rekap :) I had a little look and yes they are much better pics ;)
You're plant is coming along very well and hopefully wil produce a good sized harvest :)

Hello BOYZNUS :) Well I had to have a look back to find out when I switched to 12/12, I never bother trying to keep track of dates :o

It was about the 20th of October when I started the flowering so it must be about 4 - 5 weeks now.



Anyway yesterday I noticed a couple more male flowers on two of the other plants :( but they were easy to just pick off.

I am seriously considering cutting this lot very soon. I am starting to think that they are not got going to amount to much if I give them another 3 -4 weeks.
At the moment they are quite resinous and if I keep finding male flowers then I will harvest them early and get the next lot started.


However not to worry, the last crop was quite reasonable and I have plenty of that still stored away, so this crop will simply add to that ;)

I'll maybe give them a little while longer and think about it, see how they go on ;)


love mand xxx :)

BOYZNUS
11-27-2005, 07:05 AM
ATTA GIRL MAND... KEEEP US GOIN

mand
11-28-2005, 12:41 PM
ATTA GIRL MAND... KEEEP US GOIN.................................Ok B, will do :) ;)




Hello :) Well whatever it was that affected the plants when they went on the 12/12 cycle certainly changed there overall condition and growing.

They might look ok on the pics but to me they seem to be struggling, they've never fully recovered :( .

Anyway I'll just add a few more bud pics :)

love mand xxx :)

rastagal
11-28-2005, 01:00 PM
mand, you are the bomb, I really enjoyed this journal, hope one day to get my plants like yours pet:)
You do a fantastic job.

BukDatAss
11-29-2005, 06:18 PM
Hello Mand I just put my seeds in the soil yesterday. I took your advise on

the 4 sheets of paper on the bottom and top of the seeds and it worked

great :thumbsup: . I'm using a MH 400w for the seedlings now but that

thing kicks out lots of heat I have it about 5feet from the pots cause of the

heat Im installing a fan now; cause the temp reached up 90%F

yesterday :confused: . R U doing a journal for ur next grow? and how

much should I water my plants

mand
11-29-2005, 08:01 PM
Hello Rastagal :) Thankyou very much ;) and don't worry I think you'll get bitten by the growing bug and will soon be growing plants much better than mine. Just don't let the other mums at school find out, they'll all want some ;) :)



Hello B :) I'm so pleased all is going ok and yes a fan does sound an excellent idea so you can get the light closer ;) I've got the opposite problem at the moment it's freezing but the plants are safe from the frost, the cold just makes them grow a little slower.....it slows there metabolism down.
As for watering when they are little I just use one of the plastic spray guns and fill it with water, let it stand to get to growroom temprature and just damp them down with that. I just keep them slightly damp, don't over soak them.

Oh dear another journal :o , I might leave it for the next grow and do one the time after in the spring................I'm not really sure yet.


love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
11-30-2005, 05:19 AM
Mand Im having a major prob, hopefully I can ride it out like you did but its

gonna take more major work, I already thought I did enough (guess not) I

think Im going have to install an A/C in my closet. because when I got home

today from work the temp was at 109%F with a 3ft fan. This sucks so bad I

was even thinking of calling it quits, its bad cause I already invested about

$350 like 6 hours of hard labor and Im going to have nothing to show for :(

BukDatAss
11-30-2005, 06:19 AM
Why Me (http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=41712) Take a look Mand

mand
11-30-2005, 02:38 PM
Hello B :) Wel I tried to reply best I could, don't worry just try and get some air in there and cool it down.
To be honest I think that's all you can do ;) .

And B, "DO NOT QUIT".......get that AC running and the temp down and you will be fine .................honest ;)






Well I've not had anymore male flowers yet :) and I've been messing around with the camera on different settings to try and get a few better pics.
Mind you they still look the same to me, I'm not very good with cameras :o

I'm thinking about just swoping back onto the HPS bulb again tonight, just to see how the plants react to it .................if they don't like it then I can just put the MH back in ;)


love mand xxx :) .

mand
11-30-2005, 02:44 PM
Next lot different camera setting ;)


love mand xxx :)

Mellow Man
11-30-2005, 03:34 PM
Awesome! mand! those plants look really healthy I must say and by the looks of it probably @ around 5 weeks into flowering or so? correct me if I am wrong,,,,,,your plants look so green! for running that far along in the flowering stage! great looking plants I am entering the 4th week of flowering and everything is looking yellow lol...........wow! Nice Job I must say!

mand
12-01-2005, 03:03 PM
Hello Mellow Man :) Thankyou very much :)

I have to check back in the posts to see when flowering was started and yes about 5 weeks :o .........went on 12/12 cycle on October 20th.

I put the HPS bulb back in last so I'm keeping an eye on them now to see if there ok with it, any signs of drooping and they will have to go back on the MH bulb.
There's been no more male flowers yet, that's the one thing that will make me harvest them early if there starts getting anymore of them ;)
I'm hoping though that things go ok and then harvest around Christmas time.

It won't be a big harvest but they are very sticky now with resin, so with luck the quality should overide the quantity ;)


love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
12-01-2005, 03:22 PM
Mand I know you had some trouble throughout ur grow but thier coming along great.
by the way thanks for those little words you posted a day earlier because of you I think I would've gave up. Now the plants are growing real well i managed to get the temps down to 83%F by leaving the closet door open-(didnt want to but o well). Thanks Mand

Mellow Man
12-01-2005, 05:11 PM
Hello Mellow Man :) Thankyou very much :)

I have to check back in the posts to see when flowering was started and yes about 5 weeks :o .........went on 12/12 cycle on October 20th.

I put the HPS bulb back in last so I'm keeping an eye on them now to see if there ok with it, any signs of drooping and they will have to go back on the MH bulb.
There's been no more male flowers yet, that's the one thing that will make me harvest them early if there starts getting anymore of them ;)
I'm hoping though that things go ok and then harvest around Christmas time.

It won't be a big harvest but they are very sticky now with resin, so with luck the quality should overide the quantity ;)


love mand xxx :)


So I guess what you were trying to say was the the hps bulb was effecting your plants on the negative side of things? why is this? is the hps bulb a old one? or you flowered for most of the weeks under a mh?..............Care to explain your situation! just wanted to see why you believe the hps is doing poorly for your plants rather then the mh......Thanks!

I should also ask are you adding nutes of any kind to the plants because the green looks excellent!

mand
12-01-2005, 07:05 PM
Hello B :) and thankyou love ;)
I'm pleased to hear that things are going ok now, it can get very frustrating at times "this growing lark ;) ".
Anyway you're not allowed to give up, I'm the only one who can do that ;) I tell you I can get really "mardy" when things don't go according to plan :o



Hello Mellow Man :) I'll try and describe the situation ;)
About a week after switching to 12/12, the plants just went all limp and droopy. Anyway I was having some serious problems with condensation in the growroom at the time. So I put the MH bulb back in and they seemed to pick up, I gave them a little while and put the HPS bulb in and they went droopy again.
Now I have honestly no idea what the problem was, the HPS bulb was a new one for my last grow and has only been used for about 8 weeks prior to this grow.
So last night I have put the HPS back in to see what happens, if they start drooping again then I will finish this grow under the MH.
The next crop I will do as normal and if the same happens again then I will have to buy another new bulb and try that.

To be honest this crop has been a proper pain, normally a crop will grow with the minimal amount of attention but this one has actually caused me some stress :( .
Mind you I think doing a journal of it hasn't helped, I knew from the begining that it was tempting fate for something to go wrong :o

I've already cut one plant because it was going hermmie on me, but not to worry there will be an harvest and they do seem to be quite nice buds in the respect of the amount of resin they producing :)


The only thing in the way of nutrients I use is Phostrogen plant food, I just put a pinch of it in the watering can now and again ;)


love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
12-02-2005, 05:38 AM
[QUOTE=mand]
Mind you I think doing a journal of it hasn't helped, I knew from the begining that it was tempting fate for something to go wrong :o
QUOTE]

Now I have to disagree on you with that one Mand :mad: Because if you didnt do the journal we all would have never met such a wouderfull person with remarkable advice and expertise. So thanx again not only from me but from everyone I would like to say :thumbsup:

mand
12-02-2005, 01:19 PM
Hello B :) , Awwww that's really very very nice of you to say so love ..................Thankyou very much :)

I do think though that by keeping a record of the grow it has actually made it more stressfull. Problems that I would not really bother too much about have become ......well kinda Arrgghhh :mad:
It was going lovely untill just after starting inducing flowering, normally a grow just seems to "flow" along and requires very little attention. This one just seems awkward, it's not going as smoothly as I would like :o

The HPS bulb is back in there on it's second day, so I'm just keeping an eye on that ;)

However this grow is not going to produce any great yeild, there's still away to go yet but I know by now that it's going to turn out a smallish crop.
What I'm pinning my hopes on however is that it is going to be reasonable quality, after a slowish start it does seem to be producing resin very well, I've tried to take a few bud pics in the hope that they will show the resin starting to spread :)



Thankyou :) ..................love mand xxx :)

Trichome Creator
12-02-2005, 05:05 PM
Mand your plants look great. Nice to see some female growers around here.

highjinx
12-02-2005, 05:23 PM
heya mand, your luvly ladies are looking damn sexy! :thumbsup:
i see you use phostrogen, thats what i use too! i was gonna try some more expensive ferts but it seems to work fine so im just gonna stick with that too!

still had no luck with the vita lites, looks like you can only get them via mail order!
have to get credit card sorted!

Keep it green! :thumbsup: :D :thumbsup:

BILL THICK
12-03-2005, 01:37 AM
Hello! :D How are you , Mand?? Doing great ,I hope! Good to see your crop is doing well. Your pics are a journal in themselves, looking back from the first pics you posted on through till your last ones is interesting and irmative view of a good grow,(IMHO) And thats not to cut your informative text short either. It's a great journal! You realize it has been viewed well over 4,000 times already. So, don't cut yourself short it is a good journal and the minor problems you encountered only made it better. You handled them perfectly and we have all gained from it, I'm sure!!!

I have just moved and due to a situation with the landlord it was a surprise necessity , very sudden!!! In short it's been a nightmare. Moving my grow was something else :p :o :D

just hooked my PC back up and thought I'd say hi! Its acting up a bit so I'm going to run before I loose what I have typed to ya already, C'ya later :dance:

your plants look great :thumbsup:
peace :D
Bill

BukDatAss
12-04-2005, 05:25 PM
Mand thanx for all your Help. So how are your ladies doing, fine I hope. What happened when you switched the bulb the last time? How did they react. Talk to you soon byeeeeeeee

mand
12-04-2005, 11:03 PM
Hello TC :) Thankyou love :) I've noticed more girls growing on these boards just lately, that's good I know when I first posted I felt a little nervous.......kinda like the odd one out :o


Hello Highjinks :) yes I've always used a little bit of Phostrogen in the water and it's only a couple of quid for a big packet and that lasts for quite a few grows ;)
Oh yes the vita lites, I looked all over the net and didn't find any in the UK, there was lots of imformation about them but no one selling them.

Thanks love ;)



Hello Bill :) I'm absolutely fine love, it's been a little busy here this last few days but I don't think I've been as busy as you ............ eerrrrrhhh moving :( , I hated that, all the upheavel and comotion.
I'll just send my best wishes that you very soon settle into you're new home and hope you will be happy there :)
Hmmm the pics on the journal , well they say a picture is woth a thousands words ;) ....................a little confession....sometimes I really haven't a clue what to write, so a picture says a lot more than I can :o


Hello B :) Thankyou ............no problem at all ;)
Well they've been under the HPS for three or four days now...........I'm kinda not sure I've lost count already :o
Anyway not a great deal of anything has happen really, all seems the same so far.
I have to say though I am impressed with the resin production, these are turning out to be some of the most stickiest plants I've ever seen :)


Thanks guys .....................love mand xxx :)

Rekap
12-04-2005, 11:27 PM
I have to say though I am impressed with the resin production, these are turning out to be some of the most stickiest plants I've ever seen :)


Thanks guys .....................love mand xxx :)

im going to have to agree with that, thos girls look sticky as hell :p

take a look at my update mand, let me know what you think...thanks.

Rekap_

mand
12-05-2005, 04:48 PM
Hello Rekap :) I had a little look and I have to say you have done a super first grow there love :)





Well what can I say about my lot...............not much really :o they seem to still be ok under the HPS.............there's not really much happening.

I'll be just glad when I can cut this lot and get another crop started ;) ..I start getting really impaitent at this stage ;)

love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
12-05-2005, 11:03 PM
I haven't posted on here for a long time...but will for Mand.

If I had plants that looked like that I'd make sure that I let them go as long as it took for them to reach their utmost potency. They look great and what really amazes me is how nice and shiny the leaves are! Very healthy. Looks like it was the humidity that caused them to wilt huh Mand as the HPS sure doesn't look like it's causing them any pain! And the trichomes are to die for!!

Absolutely no way...you just can't...positively nope...you can't hack those girls down before their time. Be a travisty. You'll get some major poundage off this crop Mand!! Probably at least a bale! ;) IF you let them live!!

Marc Benson

turtle420
12-06-2005, 12:30 AM
I haven't posted on here for a long time...

No shit dude!

How you've been? Good to hear from ya!

(sorry for the hi-jack Mand, but yeah, your plants are very good looking ;) )

BukDatAss
12-06-2005, 05:22 AM
Mand how many girls are left with now?

mand
12-06-2005, 09:17 AM
Hello Marc :) it's very nice to hear from you.......How are you ?...........and have you been shoveling snow ;) :)

Well yes the plant's are nice and green and they have a shine to them but in all honesty (apart from the crop that failed one time because the bulb was worn out) this is prehaps the saddest looking crop I have ever grown.
Honestly Marc since the drooping they have never fully recovered. When I say they are struggling I mean that they are not growing as usual.
Usually a crop will just seem to have a "natural easy flow" to it, this one did during the vegitive growth but since then I just think it has struggled.

The one saving grace that it does appear to have is the amount of resin being produced, the camera doesn't seem to do it justice.
Just the most gentle brush of the fingers against the buds will make the fingers very sticky ;)

The amount of bud in weight though is quite poor, but like I say it's not a worry at all because the last crop was quite reasonable and I have more than enough of that one left ;)

I was just thinking of a few minor improvments I could make to my growing methods, firstly to get the shed painted white because I can't see me transfering the growroom for a while yet. Secondly I could prehaps germinate less seeds (prehaps ten ?) and put them in larger pots. This would allow more light to the lower part of the plants.
Mind you I won't do this for the next grow, I'll wait for next springs grow ...............well it's winter now and I really don't fancy messing about out side very much :o

lovely to hear from you Marc :)



Hello Turtle :) No problem , hi-jack it anytime you want love ;) :)


Hello B :) well I was left with nine females, one turned hermmie so I have cut that and it is at present drying. There are two very sad little runts in there that are going to produce a minimal amount........to be truthfull there not worth even counting :o
This leaves six females that I hope the quality compensates for the lack of quantity :)



love mand xxx :)

Mellow Man
12-06-2005, 03:21 PM
Your not into cloning are you mand? always from seed? what strain do you have growing?...............I see the frost on top of the cola nice!

BukDatAss
12-06-2005, 06:41 PM
hey mand when do you transplant ur plants? Do you use pots or buckets? how big should I get my pots/buckets? I know to many questions I'll stop now :D byeeeeeeee ;)

BILL THICK
12-07-2005, 07:56 AM
.... and it's a well deserved Five Star rated Journal too :thumbsup: :dance: . Your just too kool for school, woman. :D

Plants look healthy ( take good pics too, how ?) Sure am curious as all hell what it was that freaked out your plants back when you put them in flower under the hps, from veg state???? :confused:

Left you a post under my "Moving grow room", thread. Didn't want to high jack your thread although I'm sure you would not have objected anyway

Peace
Bill :D

mand
12-07-2005, 01:27 PM
Hello Mellow Man :) That's right love I always grow from seeds, although I have taken cuttings and cloned houseplants before but never cannabis plants.
I suppose it's just the same principle ;)
Oh yes the more frost the better, that's the bit that counts isn't it :)


Hello B :) ask as many questions as you like love, no problem at all ;)
Mind you if I can answer them that's a different matter :o :)

They were re-potted at three weeks old on this grow, I'll just re post a little pic ;) .
The pot size ?.........oh dear you've got me there :o I read about different size pots and tubs but it means nothing too me, I wouldn't know what a gallon sized pot was if I saw one :o
Mine are like small bucket type pots, I used to grow in largish plant pots but I was in the supermarket one day and around the gardening section they were selling these big black plastic tubs. Anyway they were 8 for £1, so I bought a couple of pounds worth ;)


Hello Bill :) and Thankyou ;)

I really don't know what the problem was Bill, it could have been the bad condensation, it could have been some kinda "shock" to being induced...........I think it might have been several factors just coming alltogether all at the same time...............it did knock them down though I don't think they ever fully recovered from it ...........but never mind ;)

The photo's Bill, well Marc told me how to take closer pics, he told me to press the macro button on the side of the camera ;)
A little confession ..........I manage to get my son to take most of the pics.............because they usally seem to look a bit "fuzzy" and not quite right when I take them :o



love mand xxx



oh I'll just post the re-potted plants at three weeks, B ;)

MaraJawanna
12-07-2005, 05:47 PM
wow plants look good. What soil did you use and any thing else? Did you pre germinate before you put them in the soil? paper towel method? Just wondering. I'm gonna start tom try to grow soon

mand
12-07-2005, 07:47 PM
Hello M :) I just copied this post from a few pages back for you.........


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Hello B I find that the best way to germinate seeds is the paper towel method.
Put about four or five sheets of kicthen roll on a plate and give them a sprinkling of water but drain off all the excess. Put the seeds on the damp sheets and cover with another four or five layers and damp them. Just remember you want them damp not with pools of water on them. You can use toilet roll but it kinda disintergrates, kitchen roll is better

Then just put them out the way somewhere, an "airing cupboard"/"hot water tank cupboard" is fine, it's dark and the tempreture is nice and even. However it's really not too important were they are put, I'm just telling you my favourite place
Remember to check them now and again and make sure they don't dry out. As soon as the sprout appears put it in the soil, with the sprout end pointing downards.................just remember "pointy end down"................and that's it



That's the method I use ;) .

The soil is from a compost heap I made in the corner of my garden, I put in it anything that will rot down easily, I also add a pinch of Phostrogen plant food to the water now and again :)


love mand xxx :)

digitaldog
12-08-2005, 12:02 AM
hiya mand
Not posted for a while but been keepin my eye on things in here. forever pickin up little tips off other growers- you know how it is!
you appear to have lost heart in that grow of urs and i know u had a few probs but they`re lookin fine to me mand - as u probs know i`ve got 4 girls about a week behind urs -think i stuck them on 12/12 2 days after bonfire night.
i think your plants look a lot healthier than mine - lots more green leaves as most of mine are turning yellow and dying but i`m pretty sure i have fatter, longer and larger buds than ur having at the mo -- sorry not tryin to be a smart arse or anythin and say `` mine are bigger than urs` or any crap like that - just sayin as i see it. i think its probs because u switched back to ur MH for a while and i don`t really think ur getting the right spectrum there for bud develpment. Glad to see u`ve managed to get ur HPS on them agen and they seem to have taken to it this time!!!
God only knows y they reacted like they did to it b4 - i was thinkin u had a dead bulb for a while but maybe it was all that condensation??? who knows???
Anyway u`ve still got a way to go with them girls yet - plenty of time to get some really nice crop!! and they are looking really healthy still and frosty as fuck so stick with it and above all be patient!!!
U women can be so impatient sometimes!! haha
Happy Christmas
Digi
PS i stuck 20 seeds in paper tonight and along with the 6 clones i have that survived -( out of 8) i`m lookin to be busy!!!

mand
12-08-2005, 09:58 AM
Hello Digi :) How are you :)
You are right, I have lost a little intrest In this lot :o . I think by writting about it and taking pics, well it's kinda made hard work of it all.
I've even had times when I been worrying about them .................... I never do that :eek:


Awwww Digi don't worry I could never imagaine you saying "mine are bigger than your's" :) , that made me smile to read it ;) I hope your's are a lot bigger.
I was looking in the growroom this morning and what really stuck me was how much space there is, normally it looks overcrowded.
Like I have said before "I quite good at growing leaves but not so hot with the buds" ;) . Although it's not something I worry about because I always have plenty for me :)



You do sound like you're going too be very busy :) ............... isn't it about time you did an update ;)



I'll just add a few pics from this morning because I took them and for once I don't think there too fuzzy or anything :)


love mand xxx :)

digitaldog
12-08-2005, 08:42 PM
Yep deffinately lookin good to me mand althogh ur pics do come up a little dark on my screen but i`ve sed it b4 that there`s a hell of a lot of people come onto this forum that would die to have plants like those!!!
i`ve been getting a little worried about mine of late as i seem to be pulling handfulls of dead and dying leaves off them although around all the bud sites and the actual buds themselves they appear to be really doin well !!
I look at ur pics and they do appear to be much greener and healthier??
Have u or do u ever have grows where all the fan leaves are really dying off at 4 weeks into flower????
I know u went back to MH for a while so i`m guessing that would cause this crop to be greener as MH is more spectrum for veg state than flower but i`m wondering if i really should have so many leaves dying off on me??
will try post a few pics in the next few days.
Stick with it mand - lookin good!!!!!
Digi

BukDatAss
12-09-2005, 06:14 AM
I dont know Mand but they look good to me. I wish my turn out to be aleast close to yours :confused: . I'm just taking it 1 day at a time. Do you have any left from your last crop. :dance:

Rekap
12-09-2005, 07:40 AM
oh oh oh i likes! second pic...new desktop :p

flowers are looking lovely mand...

Rekap_

mand
12-09-2005, 01:35 PM
Hello Digi :) taking pics really isn't a strong point of mine. The camera came with the most useless instuction book I have ever seen, I haven't a clue what I'm supposed to do what on the thing :o . I prefer the little single use disposable cameras..............really easy to use ;)

No i don't normally have many leaves die off, altough there are a few starting to loose colour at the bottom areas now. Even when I cut them there is usually quite a large amout of green leaves left on............then again I usually harvest a little too soon :o
I wonder if you're plants are putting all there energy into the new growth and buds, that's why the older ones are dying off ????

I'm looking forward to seeing them Digi :)




Hello B :) you're doing fine ............ honest ;)
Oh yes I've got quiet a bit left ;) . I don't smoke everyday, maybe 2-3 times a week when I have a bit of quiet time :) . However when I do I smoke a good amount, I've been smoking since I was eighteen and I think I have built up quite a tollerance to it.



Hello Rekap :) that second one is my favourite aswell :) , I just wish it was clearer it's has those lines running across it, the ones caused by the lights :o
I've got a pic of my grandson for my background ;)





Well the temptation to get the plants cut is really there now :o
I'm not just saying that out of lack of intrest in them, I am looking at it from a practical veiw.
I don't think they are going to do much more to be honest and it is really cold in there.
The pitsels are starting to turn brown now as well.
I'll give them prehaps a little longer ...................... see how it goes ;)



love mand xxx :)

scobbie
12-09-2005, 03:03 PM
just been through your journal mand bang on girl, expert

rastagal
12-09-2005, 06:12 PM
oh Mand, Im in awe , bloody good job.

droooolll :)

mand
12-09-2005, 08:11 PM
Hello Scobbie :) Thankyou love, but I'm no expert ..........honest :o

I've grown quite a few times now, since 1998 I've usually grown 2 - 3 crops a year. However I always stick to the same methods and been very lucky and had very few problems.................but when a problem does ocurr it leaves me kinda scratching my head wondering "well what do I do now" :o



Hello Rastagal, Thanks love :) when you've finished you're first grow get straight on with the next one and try growing a couple of plants.
Now when you've done that I'll put money on it you will soon be growing great big crops and producing more weed than you know what to do with ;)


Look us Gals have got to stick together and show these guys how it's really done ;)


Only kidding guys ............honest :o :)


love mand xxxx :)

turtle420
12-10-2005, 02:25 AM
Look us Gals have got to stick together and show these guys how it's really done ;)

Are you kidding Mand? . Almost every guy in these boards would kill to have his garden full of girls...

Females... they make the world go 'round.

Starchild
12-10-2005, 02:31 AM
Yeah Mand~laughs~

mand
12-10-2005, 09:11 AM
Hello Turtle :) , Hello Starchild :) , I really am just kidding ;)

I'm affraid I could never put in all the hard work, effort, care and dedication into growing that some of the guys on these boards do.
When they talk about harvesting, they are not just talking about ounces but pounds/kilos of real quality weed. Have you ever seen the pics from Zandor and The Mole, to name just two ;)

Now if I could have a guy show me that much care and attention I would be a very happy bunny ;) :)



Can I just ask a serious growing question :) .................

Does anyone know of the benifits of leaving plants in total darkness for a few days before harvesting ?????

A while ago, I can't remember the name of the guy who posted ....sorry :o
I was told that by leaving a plant in total darkness for a couple of days before harvesting, that this would increase the resin production a great deal.

I am thinking of trying this, however my worries are leaving the plants with absolutely no heat at all for that length of time. When the light is off it really does get cold in the growroom.
I'm not sure if to try it with this present grow or wait untill a grow when the weather is a little milder ;)

Does anyone have any thoughts on this subject ?


love mand xxx :)

Rekap
12-10-2005, 09:14 AM
i've heard things about the darkness just b4 harvesting too. i think its something to do with the fact that THC produces in the dark...so if you chop 'em just after 24-48hrs of darkness the THC leves will be plenty "high" :p

Rekap_

mand
12-10-2005, 09:28 AM
Hello Rekap :) That's what I was told too ;)
I'm just a little worried about trying it due too the coldness of the growroom ?

Well that's my lot on here for a while, I have to get ready for work :( :(

love mand xxx :)

mand
12-10-2005, 07:55 PM
Hello :) Can I just sneak a couple of pics on ................ I've been practacing or "something like that" with the camera ;)

The first picture shows how the two stems grow from the one, from when it was "pinched" (topped).
I would like to see more bud on them without a doubt but I'm pleased with what I have got ............... it kinda says too me "please smoke me :)




love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
12-11-2005, 03:24 PM
"it kinda says too me "please smoke me"

Actually I can hear what your plants are saying Mand. It's, "Please don't hack us down before our time!" :D

digitaldog
12-11-2005, 10:48 PM
WOW !! whatever u did with the cam Mand please try to remember it cos them pics are showin up really clear now!! :D :D :D
They`re looking really frosty and i can see the pistills starting to turn amber in places.
i`m no expert so take what i say with a pinch of salt but i`d say u still got maybe 3 weeks before they`re done!! ???? i dunno but i`d be inclined to wait as long as i could now they`ve taken to the hps.Give them time to fatten up?? Ur more experienced grower than me so i`m sure u`ll know when but i get the feelin u just wanna hack them and start ur next! lol
I took ur advice and topped 3 of mine a week b4 flowering and i have the same 2 stems growin up from that point. i`d say them stems alone are about 8 inches tall now and they are just full of bud!! :D
Gonna have to post a few pics this week!!! :rasta:
stick with `em and dont hack em too soon!!! :thumbsup:
Digi

mand
12-11-2005, 10:56 PM
Hello Marc :) Honestly love they are safe from the sisscors, I have a good few ounces in reserve ;)

I keep trying to write too you Marc but it's just the same old story here, always someone wanting something from me :( . I had a little quiet time last night, I had a little smoke and a glass of my favourite, curled up on the sofa with every intention of watching the new "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" film. However I was so tired the next thing I knew it had finished :o

Hey Marc, can you remember me telling you about my narrow escape with the bondage guy ;)
Well is it something about me, do I some how come across as being a bit "dominating" ? :o . Because when I came across this post by BkSkillz, I just had to laugh :)

[QUOTE=BkSkillz] ..is it me or do other people invision an english dominatrix with a glass of brandy in one hand and a bottle of superthrive in the other when they think of mand?... QUOTE]

I mean I'm not like that .............honest :)
Just the mere thought of me dressed in a corset, a pair of 6 inch heels and weilding a whip .................... eeerrrr well, it wouldn't be a pretty sight :o


Do I have to do an update on the plants :( ....................... well there about the same as yesterday ;)



Bye for now ........................ love mand xxx :)

mand
12-11-2005, 11:08 PM
Hello Digi :) Blimey you must have posted whilst I was typing ;)

Hey I'm getting quite into this taking pics lark :) still don't know what I'm doing but never mind, it's fun ;)
I really do hope that pinching them pays off for you love, because I feel kinda reasponsible for you doing it .......... honestly Digi I find that it does increse the yeild and I wouldn't have written that if I wasn't sure :o

I am just going to leave them for a while longer, although I am a little bit dissapointed with the amount, I am quite happy with how they look, especailly after all the problems :o

I look forward to seeing you're pics :)


love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
12-12-2005, 03:00 PM
"..is it me or do other people invision an english dominatrix with a glass of brandy in one hand and a bottle of superthrive in the other when they think of mand?"

Actually Madam Mand, I see you in a flowered apron with whatever else you do or don't want to wear under it fixing us some fish and chips!! :D Course your hair is in pigtails, lips slathered with bright red lipstick and that big smile shining...as always. Talk to you later...Madam. ;)

mand
12-12-2005, 05:08 PM
Hello Marc :) I'm affraid it's usually jeans and a jumper, hardly "Dom gear" ;)

Errrr a flowery apron and bright red lippy :eek: , I'm not quite that "mummsy" :) ...........although I always wear a bit of lippy (kinda pinky) and a pony tail ;)
However even if I say so myself I am a fairly decent cook ;) :)


I'll just post a few pics because my son is borrowing my camera, he's off to France for a few days with his girlfriend and I've persuaded him to pick up a few bits on the way back.....................well save me having to do the Christmas "Booze Cruise" ;)

love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
12-12-2005, 06:08 PM
"I see you in a flowered apron..."

I meant cannabis flowers! You'd be...SMOKIN'!

mand
12-12-2005, 07:46 PM
"I see you in a flowered apron..."

I meant cannabis flowers! You'd be...SMOKIN'!


That would be an ideal Christmas pressie for me Marc ;)

Do you know what one of my lads said to me once ....." when it comes to you're funeral mum all the wreaths will be made out of cannabis leaves", I thought that was a really charming thing to say :( , nothing like planing ahead is there :rolleyes:

Anyway Marc when do you think I should cut this lot down ?, I think I'm kinda looking at sometime between Christmas and New Years Day :)


love mand xxx :)

Marc Benson
12-12-2005, 10:03 PM
You'll probably out live your kids Mand! All that good French booze in your system has ya pickled! HA! I'm just kidding. Ya know I love ya! ;)

As for when to hack 'em down? If I were you, and really had no other reason to hack them down (other than impatience) I'd be going by the trichomes. And then it'd depend on what you wanted out of them. Either some smoke that'd weld ya to your couch so you could for sure watch some of those movies you've been trying to catch or some that would make you pee your pants cause you were laughing so hard as you power cleaned your house. That's up to you Mand, but all I've read suggests that the only way to harvest at the right time for max potency is to go by trichs. No gut feeling. No deadline cause it's Christmas. Trichs either cloudy, amber or a combo of the two.

All that said I hacked some down way early (by at least a couple weeks) and it kicks my butt. With all that resin ya got there, I'm sure this stuff would too. So of course it's your call...Madam.

mand
12-12-2005, 11:37 PM
Hello Marc :) Oh I like a little drink as well as my weed ;)
I take the veiw that from the age of 19 - 30 I was married to one of lifes great losers who dragged me down and then made me feel as though it was all my fault.
At the time he even had me convinced it was my fault, however now being a little older and maybe just a "tad" wiser :rolleyes:, I know different ;) .

From the age of 30 -40 I bought my kids up and "worked my arse off" (not literaly, just a phrase of words ;) ), to provide something we never had when married ............ Security :)

So nowdays I relax, still have to work to pay the bills and put food on the table but at a more relaxed pace ;)



Oh dear Marc I'm supposed to be doing a grow journal but I seem to have wandered on to my life story, never mind that's how I am :)




Well the question of when to harvest, knowing when the buds are at their peak ?
In all honesty I have difficulty with this, I know they are not ready just yet.
I can't go by the smell because I have no sense of smell, but I can taste it in the air in the growroom ................ honestly the air is thick with the taste of maturing buds.
If there are any problems such as hermmies or bud rot then I will cut them and they will be quite reasonable. However I reckon about another 2 - 3 week will see them at their peak ;)

What type of weed do I like ? .................. I like the kind that doesn't hit you straight away, you know sorta takes 5 - 10 mins before it hits home.
That's the kind that normally "knocks me sideways", you know the feeling where you just don't care ................ that's the one for me ;)



love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
12-13-2005, 08:10 AM
Mand thats why your so :cool: and have so many people reading this thread. Your a very interesting person and sweet at that. I mean I know this is a MJ forum but you getting off track and writting about ur life makes this thread more interesting so if you find yourself doing it, just go with it. I dont see any1 else complaining. :p Oh by the way when do u pinch ur plants :D

mand
12-13-2005, 02:04 PM
Hello B :) .................. I made a little post on you're grow thread about the "pinching", just don't worry about it and only pinch them if you fancy trying it and if you feel comfortable doing it ............. ;)


Oh I am terrible at going off on different tangents, it's kinda a joke in the family that one day I'll end being the old granny (you know the one who's lost a few marbles ;) ) and talks about anything but the subject that everyone else is talking about :o ................... maybe I will one day but not just yet ;)
Well you can only say so much about a plant can't you :)


love mand xxx :)

mand
12-15-2005, 04:49 PM
Hello :) ................ Last update "Thank Gawd" :rolleyes: :)

Well the quantity is right down ( I've known that it would be since the problems ;) ), anyway thats enough of the exscuses :o


I did intend to leave them a few more weeks but one of the things that I said would make me harvest earlier has happened ................ at the bottom of a couple of plants were numerous male flowers appearing. So that was it out came the sisscors :o

Firstly the pics are not very good I'm affraid, my son has got my camera so I had to borrow one and I'm lost with it. Most of the pics were just to blurry to see anything, so I'll just put on those that are kinda ok - ish.

The first pics are supposed to be of the male flowers, the stuff in the shoe box is small buds, resinous leaves and anything else that looked reasonable for smoking ;) these are going to be forced dried and stored in a biscuit tin or something like that, it depends what I can find :o
The last pics are of any decent buds, these are going to be hung and dried and then wrapped up and put into the freezer as I'm not going to need them for a while.
Also there is a pic of all the scrap ends that normally get thrown away but if I can find the time I might have a bash at Harrdons hash oil ?

I am sorry that I haven't got a great big harvest to post on here but "never mind" that's how it goes sometimes ;)

Oh I'm just going to put 8 Sensi Skunk and 8 Skunk#1 in a few paper towels................with a bit of luck they will be under the lamp by Sunday/Monday, I'll give doing a journal on them a miss this time ;)



Thankyou guys ............................. love mand xxx :)

mand
12-15-2005, 04:52 PM
Rest of the pics, sorry about the quality :o


love mand xxx :)

Powder Puff
12-15-2005, 04:58 PM
That is a nice yield!:D

I have never harvested before, so I would LOVE to get somewhere around that!:D (of course i would also love to yield 10 lb's:p)

So your no going to have another journal?:( I HOPE you will pop by sometimes, to speak to us!:o:D

Marc Benson
12-15-2005, 05:11 PM
Bummer Mand.

"then wrapped up and put into the freezer"

I had read that freezing flowers will degrade the potency of them. Don't know how much, but it said it's not a good thing to do. FWIW

Powder Puff
12-15-2005, 05:20 PM
After you cure them, just leave them in the jars! MJ is like fine women - they age beutifully!:) ...The MJ gets better taste.. !:)

mand
12-15-2005, 05:22 PM
Hello PP :) Just stick with the way you're growing and you'll have an harvest much larger than this one ;) Since going into flowering it's been one problem after another, I really am quite relieved to see the back of this grow ;)


Hello Marc :) Just a quick reply love, I should have started dinner ages ago but I've been posting on here :o
It's one of those things that some people say "yes freezing is best" :) and other people say "oh no it's a bad idea" :(

Honestly Marc I have found that for longer term storage it is prehaps the best way to store cannabis, you just have to make sure that it is totally and utterly dry before wrapping and freezing.

Right I best get that dinner cooking ;)


love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
12-15-2005, 05:59 PM
Mand dont Leave us please :( does this mean you wont be on the site as much :( Mand If you dont do a journal at least stay on the site you have a lot of followers and lots of growing friends :D hope everything else goes well :cool:

Rekap
12-15-2005, 06:37 PM
poor mand.

i'm sure the next crop will be a great sucsess, not that this one wasn't...look at all those great spears you've got :p

happy holidays mand!

Rekap_

mand
12-15-2005, 07:53 PM
Hello B :) oh I'm not going anywhere love, just don't fancy doing a journal for every grow ;) , it would just be more of the same :o

Hello Rekap :) the fact of the matter is love that I have as much left from the last grow as what this one has produced. I would say that this crop has turned out as much as what 3 or 4 plants would normally :o


Anyway like I always say as long as I have enough for me then that's all that matters. If I didn't then I would have to look into increasing the yeild, by uprating to a 1,000 watt system, painting out this growroom, growing less plants but in larger pots and maybe looking into using some nutrients.

I still wish I knew what the problem was when inducing, I am sure now that it wasn't the bulb. There was definietely some conditions that ocurred, I think that is safe to say with the appearance of hermmies.
However I'll just keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen again ;)

A little job I have to do tomorrow is to get riddling the compost heap out before the new seeds sprout ;)

Oh and an even more important job I have to do is to find something to wear for this saturday night ....................... I've got a Christmas party to go to and haven't got a thing......... you know you guys don't know how easy you've got it when it comes to going out :)



Thanks guys......................love mand xxx :)

Fugitive
12-15-2005, 10:27 PM
Congratulations on reaching the finish line :D The harvest looks great and your thread was really interesting I have been following it at every update :) . I would just like to suggest after you have dried the plants, maybe do a cure? it is basically just putting them into mason jars and putting the lid on 24 hours then lid off 1 or 2 hours then back on 24 off 1 or 2 hours ... you get the point :) if you do this over an extended period of time the plants last struggle for survival is an ammonia release and this is what you can often feel, like the kind of harshness at the back of the throat :cool: The curing will make the smoke very smooth apparently :thumbsup: :) Oh about the hermies I believe it might have been the cold or some other factor which might have stressed them a bit into hermie plants.

mand
12-16-2005, 12:52 AM
Hello Fugitive :) well I have to admit that doing a journal about this grow was stressfull :o . I so wanted it to be a grow to be proud off, but alas
it was an extermely mediocore one ;)
Anyway love I also have to admit that a great compensation for me is seeing all the other grows on here doing really well :)
You see I truthfully don't worry about yeild and all that type of thing as long as I have enough for myself then I am happy :)
However too see such as yourself and some of the other guys and gals on here growing for their first time and making succsessfull grows is a real fabulous thing to see :)


Oh dear as for curing all I do is after the buds have dried is to let them have a little time in open paper bags, to kinda settle down a little before storing ;)


love mand xxx :)

rastagal
12-16-2005, 09:47 AM
Bloody Hell Mand, that looks like a job well done to me:) I hope to hell i someday do that good.

Respect :)

Rastagal

BkSkillz
12-16-2005, 11:58 AM
congratulations and my condolences at the same time mand on a job well done :thumbsup: ..i guess i can be added to the list of your loyal followers in this small green world we call earth..cant wait to hear about ur next grow advances and might i add that what ever you'll end up wearing at the party will have no comparason to what i invision you wearing right this moment :pimp: (o behave)..and hey if ur dissapointed by your crop then i'll be more then happy to take some of it off your hands.. :stoned:

digitaldog
12-16-2005, 07:29 PM
I was shocked to look at your thread today and see u`d hacked them all down!!! I`ve followed ur thread from the start and it`s been a joy to follow although i know u`ve had ur problems and it`s not turned out as well as u`d wished :( it`s still been great for us all to follow and i`m sure everyone reading it has learnt a little from it - and lets face it .... that`s what this is all about isnt it?
Shame u started to get hermies cos i was looking forward to seein those buds mature a bit more but thats life eh? shit happens!!!! :(
Have u ever had that problem b4? Have u thought about anything u could do -- changes to your grow room etc that would improve things in future??
It`s difficult i suppose as i think most of us are still a bit mystified as to why the problems u had occured!! Although if i was you, i`d be looking at ways of stopping condensation and improving temperatures and airflow in there as i`m sure these were a major factor. ;)
All that sed u still look to have a fair yield and above all it`s been great for us all to follow. :thumbsup:
i`ve just started to feed mine with some canna pk 13/14 so i`m hoping they`ll fatten up even more. I keep threatening to post some pics but am havin probs borrowin a cam at the mo. Will definately put some up b4 i hack them though. Mine are a week behind urs.
U`ll have to keep us informed as to how ur new grow behaves although i know u won`t be doing a full thread on them good luck with `em and happy X-mas :rasta: :D
Digi

Starchild
12-17-2005, 03:51 AM
Tincture is good to make out of leaves..A friend whom cannot smoke uses the tincture and says its great..

mand
12-17-2005, 02:02 PM
Hello Rastagal :) You know I sat at the computer last night with every intention of writting a reply. I had just smoked a joint and had a glass of vodka and orange to sip on ;)
Anyway the computer is right next to the window and I just sat there listening to my favourite music, I like all kinds but have a fondness for 60's Motown and Ska . Well I became totally distracted by watching the dark clouds moving across the light from the moon :o
Before I knew it I had smoked a couple more joints and I was totally unable to type a thing :o
Honestly love you cannot beat "homegrown", it really is kinda satisfying in knowing you have grown something so nice from a tiny little seed all by yourself .
You'll soon know that feeling ................... promise ;)


Hello BkSkillz :) To be honest love I am actually quite happy with the outcome, it's just that by doing a journal I became stressed by the thought of having to "deliver the goods" so to speak. When the plants were struggling I found my self becoming increasingly worried that the outcome was going to be an anti climax :o
It sorta took the fun out of growing and made it stressfull ........... does that make any sense :confused:
Oh and what am I wearing now ............... well it's a slinky PVC catsuit, with high heels, heavly made up and I have a whip in my hand :eek:
Only kidding ;) ................ still in my PJ's :o well I'm going out tonight so I'm going to stay as commfy as possible for the day.


Hello Digi :) Not to worry love, The next crop is well under way. I spent most of yesterday morning riddling out the compost and tidying up the growroom. Hopefully the seeds will be sprouting some time tomorrow and with luck they will be in their pots by the evening and under the MH :)
I've never had total hermmies like this before, I have in the past had the odd little male flower but nothing to be concerned about .................. Ah well never mind I'll just carry on and keep my fingers crossed that it doesn't happen again ;)


Hello Starchild :) How are you ?............I hope you are well and everything is ok :)
You must tell me what "Tincture" is ?, I've really never heard of it before :o
I've got quite a collection of small buds and resinous leaves and I'm not sure what to do with them ;)



Bye for now ........................love mand xxx :)

BukDatAss
12-18-2005, 01:05 AM
OH Mand I loved and enjoyed this journal so much, I will miss it a whole lot :( I know you kind of felt like you had pressure being that your a pro and all but it happens to the best of us, I know for a fact that your a GREAT grower I mean look how you helped me so far :) . Maybe you can just take pix of your new grow and never post them untill you feel that it was sucessfull. Then you can maybe post it all at once at the end. Just a thought :o But I know that you'll be sticking around here so I'm not o :mad: about it. So thank you again Mand for helping me and for this journal :dance:

mand
12-18-2005, 02:40 PM
Hello B :) and thankyou very very much :)
I'm not a "pro" though love, I only started growing as a cheaper alternative to buying and I only know the basics. When it comes to the technical stuff I'm totally lost :o
However I do grow now to give me that little something that is just for me, if you know what I mean ;) . It doesn't involve the family or my kids, it has nothing to do with work .................. it's simply my own little thing :)
Well at present I have potted six of the sprouted new seeds and there are ten more to go, as soon as they poke the heads out of the soil they will be put under the MH.
I am going to try a slightly different approach this time by getting the light closer and I might give the "pinching" a miss.
I think that I might induce when the plants are a little smaller inorder to try and get some light to the bottom of the plants for a change :o

Anyway B I'm feeling a bit on the tired side today so I'm going off to bed for a while. I went out on a Christmas thingy last night and it was early this morning before I got home :o
Tell you what, my disco dancing around my handbag days are well and truely over with, I guess I'm just too old :o
Also I'm going to be crippled for days, I bet the person who invented high heels was a guy :rolleyes:
No hangover though ....................... not at those prices ;)


love mand xxx :)

mobay
12-18-2005, 03:09 PM
hey mand have you seen my thread lately?

Easy Roller
12-18-2005, 06:49 PM
salut Mand ..vu parlay francais?

mand
12-19-2005, 12:57 PM
Hello Mobay :) yes I've seen it, I left a post on there ;)
Don't think it will be long before you're flowering :)


Hello Easy Roller :) I'm affraid not. I usually go over to France once or twice a year, my daughter always has a ride over with me, she can speak a little French that she she learnt when at school ( well she can speak French of a sorts :rolleyes: ).
We cross at Calais and vist the hypermarket on the other side of town. Then have a drive to Bologne for lunch, afterwards it's a run to Adinkerke just in Belgium because that's the place for the cheapest ciggies and tobbaco. also theres a really nice little chocolate shop ;)
Then back to the Eastenders warehouse in Calais to load up on booze.
I did once spend a few weeks in Normandy but anything past Bonjuor and Au Revoir ......................... and I'm lost :o


love mand xxx :)

Easy Roller
12-21-2005, 07:27 PM
Yeh nice ..a little northerly for my fashion...But good show..I'm thinking 'vu habit a Kent' or around that neck of the woods....The drive sounds a bit too far otherwise...planes are the way to go..and cheaper on the petrol...but you can't load up the motor with goodies!

mand
12-21-2005, 11:25 PM
Hello ER :) , Well Kent would be handy but it's a liitle bit further upwards in the midlands and it's well over two hundred miles to Dover but it's nearly all motorway and we take turns at driving ;)
So what with all the driving over there as well, it's a very long day, we have to set off about 3.30am.
However it's just about the only time that my daughter and myself get to spend time alone together nowdays, without my grandson or family being there, it's become "our day" and we actually look forward to it :)
We always take the ferry as well. I never fancied the tunnel, on the boat you can have a break from driving and have a coffee and a snooze ;)




Can I just say about the new grow. Well just fourteen out of the sixteen seeds have germinated, I'll give the last two a few more days but I can't see them doing anything now.
I started with eight sensi skunk and eight skunk#1 but I don't know which is which now :o . I put the pots in trays and put the trays on a small table in the kitchen. Anyway whilst I was looking for some little stickers to mark the pots with so I knew which one was which.
My grandson helped me :rolleyes: by taking them out the trays and putting them all together on a chair, so now I havent a clue which is which :o
Anyway they are all on one tray now sitting under the MH bulb ;)


love mand xxx :)

mobay
12-21-2005, 11:44 PM
hey mand
on my 2nd day of 12/12 . they are sleeping now so i will take some pics tomorrow. see you are starting another grow how was your last one :stoned: ?

mand
12-21-2005, 11:56 PM
Hello Mobay :) yes I saw you're last pics, there coning on a real treat love ;) :)

I've started another but I'm trying not to do a journal about it :o I just mentioned it has I'm just "putting my feet up" with a drink before bedtime ............... you know just a drink and a bit of posting to "wind the day down" ;)

The last grow ? ........... It's posted above love :) it was a bit dissopointing, hermmies and allsorts of niggling little problems but it did produce some nice sticky buds which are drying now.


love mand xxx :)