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pisshead
09-09-2005, 06:55 PM
the neocons love this...they hate freedom...real freedom scares them, so they need an authority and official to order them around...someone might shoot someone...waahhhh, let's disarm ourselves, that'll make us safe.

let's ignore all of history, this time it will be different, this time we have a government that loves us, and only wants to disarm everyone for our safety. the un's agenda 21 is a worldwide stampede, america's next, and the fake neo-con 'conservatives', are going to love it.

real conservatives know better. psycho will reply by ignoring that they're confiscating EVERYONE'S guns...but that's what helps neo-cons deal with their doublethink.


Total Gun Confiscation of Law Abiding Citizens Begins
Federal forces lead criminal gangs of police is America-killing gun grab
Alex Jones/Infowars.com | September 9 2005 (http://www.infowars.com/articles/new_orleans/no_gun_grab.htm)

??The balloon has gone up, the shoe has dropped. Anyone doubting the criminal intentions of the social engineer control-freaks in Washington need only look at middle-class neighborhoods being stormed by black-masked wearing jackboots on a mission to steal guns.

This is a precedent setting case for national gun confiscation. This is a clear declaration of war by the Federal Government against the American people. This is exactly how Lexington and Concord started the Revolutionary War in 1775.?

?? Alex Jones

The federal government has been chomping at the bit for decades to disarm the American people, and now an amalgamation of state and local police led by the BATF are having their deepest desire fulfilled in New Orleans.

Major newspapers are reporting that in middle-class neighborhoods undamaged by floodwaters paramilitary police are going door-to-door demanding citizens?? firearms.

The New York Times even admitted that this is so that the citizenry cannot resist when they are physically forced to leave their homes.

Most of the residents are contentious nurses and power plant employees who are currently working in key areas of infrastructure. Others refuse to leave because early on they were told they would have to break up their families to do so. Still more refuse to leave and give up beloved family pets.

Hold outs, many of whom have a year??s supply of food and water filters, tell the police, ??We??re the people who stopped the looters when you guys were nowhere to be seen in the first six days.?

So the Federal Government does a horrible job delivering food and water to people they told to go to the Superdome, and now, almost two weeks later, they say the city is under their control. Their main mission: going door-to-door and confiscating American citizens?? lawfully owned firearms. This is treason. This is sedition against the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and our way of life.

I have been to over 10 urban warfare training drills where the military and the police work together. The national news always reports that it??s disaster relief training, when the truth is that they greedily train to subdue peaceful populations, disarm them and break up families.

Remember back in 1993, when Bill Clinton announced weapon sweeps of public housing without warrants. They did it to the disadvantaged then, and most people didn??t care. Now, they are doing it to the middle-class in plain view of the world.

They??re setting a precedent to take your property, to take your children, to take your guns. The courts have ruled over and over again that the police have no obligation to protect the public. At the same time, police have been trained that there really isn??t a Second Amendment and that Americans really don??t have a right to protect themselves.

This unfolding gun confiscation tragedy stands as a monument to the true intentions of this parasitic government. It wants you disarmed and under heel. It wants slaves ?? subjects, not citizens.

The law-abiding gun owning citizens of New Orleans are having their life line severed and the American people are witnessing a giant gun confiscation drill.

There should be a howling, screaming the likes of which has never been heard against the Bush administration that is in control of New Orleans. If we let them legitimize gun confiscation for security, they are going to use this all over the country.

Lord Bush is already licking his lips and talking about making Gonzalez, a person who is adamantly anti-gun, his pick to succeed Rehnquist.

All Americans can now count on this: when you're in trouble or when you're in crisis, the "authorities" aren't going to come with aid. They're going to send a squad of goons to take advantage of the situation, take your guns and drag you off to a FEMA camp. This is what we pay taxes for.

Related: New Orleans Begins Confiscating Firearms as Water Recedes (http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/080905confiscatingfirearms.htm)

pisshead
09-10-2005, 12:16 AM
http://www.gunowners.org/pr0505.htm (http://www.gunowners.org/pr0505.htm)

GOA Denounces Gun Confiscations In New Orleans



For Immediate Release
September 9, 2005
Contact: Ellie McDaniel
703-321-8585

"Simply outrageous!"

That was the reaction from Erich Pratt, Director of Communications for Gun Owners of America, after learning that the city of New Orleans had begun confiscating legally-owned firearms from New Orleans' residents.

"By what authority can the mayor order these confiscations?" Pratt said. "You can't legitimately suspend the God-given rights of American citizens who have committed no crimes.

"These confiscations will not make the people of New Orleans any safer. Privately owned firearms were the only thing which prevented good people from becoming victims in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, when few policemen were to be found anywhere in the city.

"There have been many stories of self-defense, where stranded survivors were able to use firearms to protect what little they had, against the criminal thugs who had been released from the prisons. To take away their firearms now is simply adding 'insult to injury.'

"Unfortunately, we have yet to learn the lessons from previous dark episodes in our recent history," Pratt said. "We need to remember those lessons, such as the riots of Los Angeles more than a decade ago."

For several days in 1992, Los Angeles was in complete turmoil as stores were looted and burned. Motorists were dragged from their cars and beaten. As in New Orleans, police in L.A. were very slow in responding to the crisis. Many Guardsmen, after being mobilized to the affected areas, sat by and watched the violence because their rifles were low on ammunition.

"But not everybody in Los Angeles suffered," Pratt said. "In some of the hot spots, Korean merchants were able to successfully protect their stores with semi-automatic firearms. In areas where armed citizens banded together for self-protection, their businesses were spared while others -- which were left unprotected -- burned to the ground."

Interestingly, press reports in the aftermath of the riots described how life-long gun control supporters were running to gun stores to buy an item they never thought they would need -- a gun. Tragically, they were surprised (and outraged!) to learn there was a 15-day waiting period upon firearms.

"Will we never learn?" Pratt said. "It is a fact that firearms save millions of lives every year. So if Mayor Ray Nagin really wanted to help the decent citizens of New Orleans, he would be issuing them firearms instead of taking them away. Nagin's actions will put people in further jeopardy -- and if one citizen dies in New Orleans because he was deprived of the ability to defend himself or his family, there will be blood on the Mayor's hands."

GOA is already looking to draft legislation at both the state and federal level to preclude authorities from imposing ANY firearms restrictions during emergency response activities. Please stay tuned for further updates.

-- GOA --

Erich Pratt is the Director of Communications for Gun Owners of America, a national gun lobby with over 300,000 members located at 8001 Forbes Place, Springfield, VA 22151 and at http://www.gunowners.org (http://www.gunowners.org/) on the web.

He is the author of a forthcoming civil government textbook, The Constitutional Recipe for Freedom: Twelve Principles of Liberty Today??s Politicians Don??t Want You to Know. Either Erich Pratt or another GOA spokesman is available for press interviews.

pisshead
09-10-2005, 12:17 AM
http://www.gunowners.org/newsfeed.htm

bhallg2k
09-10-2005, 12:42 AM
Hey, I'm all for the confiscation of firearms, especially if all of them are taken. They serve no practical need.

It's not like you can't find meat at the grocery store and if for some reason the citizens must try to overthrow the government - well, grampa's old 12-guage just ain't gonna cut it anyway.

nicholasstanko
09-10-2005, 01:51 AM
i disagree bhallg2k.


you need a gun to protect you. who you gonna trust? the military? i'd never trust the governmetn to take care of me. where the hell was the govern,ment during the hurricane? after the hurricane?


what happens if our government gets too frisky and turns corrupt?

how would you stop them?

shit, how would you even keep them afriad?

bhallg2k
09-10-2005, 02:17 AM
what happens if our government gets too frisky and turns corrupt?

how would you stop them?

shit, how would you even keep them afriad?

Do you really think we could stop the U.S. military with legal firearms?

I dunno about you, but it would take a helluva lot more than a rifle to make me go one-on-one with a stealth fighter strafing me from above.

To quote Andre 3000,
"While we rantin' and ravin' 'bout gats
Ni**a, they made them gats
They got some shit that'll blow out our backs
From where they stay at"

nicholasstanko
09-10-2005, 02:38 AM
ahhhh....but with all that tech....how are they faring against insurgents in iraq?


it's not like the second world war where they use attrition...


sun tzu stated that if you win a war by destroying everything you havnt won anything.

bhallg2k
09-10-2005, 02:40 AM
Man, W. can't even pronounce Sun Tzu. You know that.

And when has anyone ever accused our government of being smart?

nicholasstanko
09-10-2005, 03:02 AM
lol.

Psycho4Bud
09-10-2005, 04:38 PM
real conservatives know better. psycho will reply by ignoring that they're confiscating EVERYONE'S guns...but that's what helps neo-cons deal with their doublethink.

Assuming again hey Gothhead! Sure their taking everyones guns in a DISASTER ZONE!!! Where cops are being SHOT AT. Where relief efforts are being hampered by ASSHOLES!
Tell ya what, lay off the Alex Jones shit, put on some cheery music, light up a fatty and chill! I really couldn't imagine my life consisting of looking over my shoulder 24/7 waiting to get screwed by the government. Must be a pretty paranoid existance!! Best of luck to ya pisshead! :D

nicholasstanko
09-10-2005, 11:17 PM
Assuming again hey Gothhead! Sure their taking everyones guns in a DISASTER ZONE!!! Where cops are being SHOT AT. Where relief efforts are being hampered by ASSHOLES!
Tell ya what, lay off the Alex Jones shit, put on some cheery music, light up a fatty and chill! I really couldn't imagine my life consisting of looking over my shoulder 24/7 waiting to get screwed by the government. Must be a pretty paranoid existance!! Best of luck to ya pisshead! :D

leave him alone. why would citizens with permits need their guns taken away? its illegal and encroaches on your fourth amendment rights.


i've yet to see any video or even a photograph of these supposed armed gangs.

Psycho4Bud
09-10-2005, 11:23 PM
leave him alone.

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Edgar
09-11-2005, 12:16 AM
LOL

Cheech and chong?

nicholasstanko
09-11-2005, 08:07 PM
it's sumthin.

Torog
09-12-2005, 12:45 PM
Howdy pisshead,

I have yet to see if or when, any of the conficated weapons will be returned to their owners...have you ?

Have a good one ...

amsterdam
09-12-2005, 06:02 PM
they can borrow mine if need be.

pisshead
09-12-2005, 07:49 PM
Howdy pisshead,

I have yet to see if or when, any of the conficated weapons will be returned to their owners...have you ?

Have a good one ...nope, this is the new america torog. and this is just a natural disaster, imagine what the loving troops will do then to gun rights after a terrorist, real or manufactured...

kiss posse comitatus goodbye too...