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redvetttes
09-09-2005, 06:23 AM
21 days into 12/12
thanks for the help
ppm 1300@mix ph 5.4-5.8
on one plant blouchs on leaves,but there alive :)
There were bushier before they went in
Shot up big time and started to flower in more parts

My big proublem is my friend (soil dude)

he says, to lankey ,to fast ,to many nurts.

nurts should be @ 400 ppm (never no more ,OLNY time and type of plant matter}

will they fill out ?

what should I do ?

how do they look ?

will the buds get bigger ? (soil dude wrote them off as a waste }

are they ok or what wrong

thanks

Zandor
09-09-2005, 04:25 PM
What light are you using? They do look a little lankey and have stretch between nodes. Your PPM is right follow the chart in the FAQ. Dirt farming is way different then hydroponic growing. The nutrients are way different.

redvetttes
09-09-2005, 05:41 PM
1000 hps hordix
bought the grow light(from resent posts}
change water 7-10 days
maxi grow/maxi blume nurts (powder)
next change going to 3 part GH liquid
138 ppm tap water
salt every time
will give close-up picks
wife just pull in got to go

Garden Knowm
09-10-2005, 01:25 AM
they look f--ing huge... why so big...

how close do you keep the light...

Nothing is a waste.. it is all good experience!!!!!!

redvetttes
09-10-2005, 04:53 AM
why so big? I DON'T KNOW ?

they look good in veg state {lots of bush} 400MH
went to 12/12 {1000 hordux bulb} with veg nurt for a week ,after that week some small branches fell off
and they could barly hold themselfs up,
change water ,nurts to 70% flower 30% grow,ebson salt every other change
They shot up like hell,
they started to pop flower out where there was nothing
light was 2-3 feet away,

now light is 18 inches away {Top of room}
should I still keep nurt ups ?
any special additive to bost buds ?
what makes big buds ?
what do u think , to much of something? or not enough?
138ppm tap water,then added ebsolnd salt{roots are white}
what happends with too much mg.
OR
is it there big, so keep feeding them ?{going to switch HG liquid} any problem with changes nurt type? durning grow?

will the plant grow big with little buds?{not what I am looking for}

what the best thing to try?

Will it take longer to finish being its big ?

soil dude pounds on me every day
going to try anything
thanks

Garden Knowm
09-10-2005, 05:38 AM
yo red baby-
you need top get that light closer.. why you ask... well it goes something like this...

A 1000 watt bulb at 12 inches may give 140,000lumes... that same light at 18 inches only gives 70,000 lumes... YIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THIS is SOME serious SHIT BROOOOOOOOOO : )
When the light is more than 12 inches from the plant, the plants STRETCH...

You my friend are NOW aqn expert on stretchng plants... (sorry) : )
Now for the BAD news... Your buds will be twice as big when they are 12 inches or less from the light source...

Now you can do some crazy ZANDOR shit and help your plants.... You could go out and purchase a T-5 (or any light) and put it on the floor facing up... or verically along the height of your plants.. This would SIGNIFIGANTLY increase your yield.

The trick to getting your HPS close to your plants is movement.. Either the bulb has to move or the air has to be moving.. ideally both will be moving... Ideally your light should be ..................4-8 inches from the tops of your plants... This requires some serious fan action.. but your buds will be HUGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2-3 feet is totally unacceptable and it explains evertything about the look of your plants... YOU haven't grown marijuana... your a god damn tree farmer!!!!!!!!!! Your gonna need a fucking axe for those monsters... ahhahahahaha

Your plants look GREAT.. ovious that you LOVE them....and you should be proud that they grew so big.. but don't ever do that shit again.. Unless your name is Zandor the Great...

can we see some more pics..

: )

burn soul since 1989
09-10-2005, 07:05 AM
they kinda look male they can be hell stringy. Tip them hell early if ya want bushy plants after 5th set thats when i do mine

redvetttes
09-10-2005, 12:48 PM
going to lower the light and try some back lighting

Will the bud size increase with the hight of the plant or
is it counter productive ?

lets play with mother nature

will tyr any idea
keep u posted
thanks