If bush legalized pot would you forgive him?

[GSW389]

He obviously wont, but if he did, would you? I might...

[TallulahGreen]

That is a sad sad reason to forgive all the shit hes done.

[Reefer Rogue]

Yes, lol.

[beachguy in thongs]

If he did, I'd forget what I needed to forgive.

[GSW389]

If he did, I'd forget what I needed to forgive.

lol, is that a yes or a no?

[shiva]

No,I wouldn't,cause damage has been done.Besides, when the day come's when they lift prohibition all the past lawmakers will look like a bunch of fools.

[beachguy in thongs]

lol, is that a yes or a no?

A yes to what? I forgot the question, is it legal yet?

[ermitonto]

No amount of legalization will make me forgive a murdering lying greedy hypocrite.

[mrdevious]

I'd think:

1. He's been secretly replaced by an alien or robot.

or

2. they removed a tumor from his brain and he suddenly sees things the way
he should.

or

3. if nothing suddenly changed him, I'd give him a bit more leniency in my views of him, however he'd still have plenty to answer for.

lol, on a side note, when I read "if he legalized pot would you forgive him", I thought you meant "would you forgive him for legalizing pot" which seemed like a no brainer. :D

[mellowman420]

i would forgive him if he killed himself realizing that that is the only thing that would help the U.S. at this point. i believe pot being legal would have bad and good outcomes so im in no hurry to hear it get legal. i think that it will never be legal but i hope it will be de-criminalized. peace fellas

[im53rebelhipy]

hell I'd go to the white house and do the chicken dance with his mother and I've got to tell you with my age and size it ain't gonna be pretty. :rolleyes:

[Fattie]

Yes. :)

[ermitonto]

Fattie, that was your 420th post.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Wow, interesting question. I might just quit smoking in protest. If he gives me that gift, I don't want it.

[Fattie]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo . Gotta go smoke.

[420Toaker]

i can never forgive that asshole for all of the things he has done.

and on a side note i am also in no hurry to see weed legalized because before you know it the government will take over and tax it and monopolize the market with low grade weed. Thats just my .02

[somebody someone]

hell i would, coz tony blair will follow

[red662]

not from the us but if i was, id never 4give him, even if he legalized the herb
free the weed..

[a. beezy]

I would forgive him for the gas prices... but not for being republican.

[Euphoric]

hmmm..sure i would :)

too bad he'd rather saw off his fingers, eh?

[Fengzi]

Forgive Bush for being one of the worst presidents in our history? HELL NO!! I don't care if he brought me a QP and a hot chick to blow me while I smoked it, he doen't deserve any forgiveness.

[senoirsalsa]

honestly id hate him for legalizing it,everyone would start smokeing(litterally everyone)and it would get old,id go more towards decriminalization enough so that you can smoke a joing outside/in your car and not be taken into the jail

[GHoSToKeR]

Nope.

[chris420]

I dont think id be able to forgive him, although im sure id have less cynical thoughts against him, or maybe not

[mellow mood]

i fuckin wouldnt forgive a fuckin slayer and someone as stupid as this "thing"

fuck bush

[bulls4591]

dude if he legalized pot id fuckin marry him

[ermitonto]

No you wouldn't, because the stupid piece of shit would still be against gay marriage.

[Lily420]

nope, hes on my shit list and hes not gunna get off. along with hitler, sudam, and osama.

[jca11285]

i wouldnt forgive him either. hes totally unacceptable.


cody

[Maui Wowie]

I hope pot always stays the same... Bush is a criminal either way, if it became legal, dealers would hate him for the business they'd lose.

[Mojavpa]

Even if he legalized gay marriage, legalized pot, ended the war in Iraq, put billions of dollars into stem cell research, changed parties, publicly apologized to the world for his presidency, I still wouldnt, because he would still go unpunished and he would still be filthy rich.

[kontrol87]

FUCK BUSH...just move to the Netherlands....smoke all you want.

[BUZz UK]

all the past lawmakers will look like a bunch of fools.
they do anyway...

[BUZz UK]

No you wouldn't, because the stupid piece of shit would still be against gay marriage.
yeah, i don't get how he's allowed to be so openly homophobic. If he was openly racist people would be up in arms...

[Nochowderforyou]

He obviously wont, but if he did, would you? I might...

Pretty sad when you'll forgive a person for killing thousands of lives, and a person who doesn't give a shit about any of you, that you'll forgive him for legalizing something so YOU'LL be happy. But, as long as yo're happy, that's all that matters right? :rolleyes:

[BUZz UK]

/\ lol, nice AV man

[GSW389]

Pretty sad when you'll forgive a person for killing thousands of lives, and a person who doesn't give a shit about any of you, that you'll forgive him for legalizing something so YOU'LL be happy. But, as long as yo're happy, that's all that matters right? :rolleyes:

FUCKING RIGHT!! :D

Plus, I happen to support the war, so I wouldn't really have much to forgive him for, since I'm not mad at him for anything other than the fact the war does eem to being going downhill. But that's a different story. This thread was just a joke, but it was funny to see what everyone else said. lol.

[beachguy in thongs]

Pretty sad when you'll forgive a person for killing thousands of lives, and a person who doesn't give a shit about any of you, that you'll forgive him for legalizing something so YOU'LL be happy. But, as long as yo're happy, that's all that matters right? :rolleyes:

The guy's not Hitler. Give him a break!

[beachguy in thongs]

Hitler- a European.

[ermitonto]

Well, nobody's Hitler but Hitler, but a fascist leader is a fascist leader, and all fascist leaders including Bush deserve no forgiveness for what they've brought about.

http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm

[Tholiak]

You people need to put down the herb before you get into politics..your gona lose everytime. Bush isnt a murderer, your just a victim of Liberal Propaganda. And besides..Bush couldnt legalize marijuana.

[Euphoric]

You people need to put down the herb before you get into politics..your gona lose everytime. Bush isnt a murderer, your just a victim of Liberal Propaganda. And besides..Bush couldnt legalize marijuana.


hhhhhahaha!!! no, seriously! what do u really think?

[beachguy in thongs]

Fascism, that's what I think of our country.

OUR FREAKING COUNTRY is based on the fact that you can't have a fascist leader.

[flfotographer]

Not just NO, but HELL NO!!! :eek:

[Maui Wowie]

Delete post.

[Nochowderforyou]

You people need to put down the herb before you get into politics..your gona lose everytime. Bush isnt a murderer, your just a victim of Liberal Propaganda. And besides..Bush couldnt legalize marijuana.

:rolleyes: Please, enlighten us oh conservative one. I'm afraid you're the ones who are brainwashed by political propaganda. You need to grab a mind of your own instead of listening to the lies he shits from his mouth. But hey, he wouldn't lie to you right, after all, he's the president.:rolleyes:

[Seag420]

you guys keep talking about 'fascist' america, you want to know what fascism is, pick up a history book and read about nazi germany! its a joke, the nazis band jews from sitting and park benches, public toilets, from having sex with non jews and then finally went on to masacre almost 6 million of the in the holocoust! now thats fascism! i dont see any of that going on in america, do u? bush was an idiot for attacking iraq, not becasue of the iraqi civilians who would inevitably get killed, as the have done, but because it was just plane stupid!

[ermitonto]

Contrary to popular belief, fascism doesn't mean "a really mean government that does bad things and kills lots of people". Fascism is a political ideology. The founder of fascism himself, Benito Mussolini, defined it as "the melding of state and corporate power", which is of course exactly what is going on in this country.

[ermitonto]

One more thing. If you assume that all fascist governments by definition have to be as openly contemptuous of freedom as Nazi Germany, you will forever be blind to fascism creeping up on your society until things get that bad.

[NowhereMan]

i would not vote for bush even if he sent me a check for 1 million
oh id cash the check

and besides he would never ever ever legalize pot

[anycraic]

well guys its ur country and u let him into office. all the recent flag burning, anti-american sentiment worldwide is because of that fucking chimpanzee. we have no problem with the american people (as u can see in new orleans), just that bunch of inbreds on capitol hill. Someone shoot them all please.

[GSW389]

One more thing. If you assume that all fascist governments by definition have to be as openly contemptuous of freedom as Nazi Germany, you will forever be blind to fascism creeping up on your society until things get that bad.

Haha, your a fucking idiot. If its a facist government but its not taking away your freedoms or civil liberties like the nazis did, then what the fuck are you having a problem with? And, Nowchowderforyou, you are a fucking hypocrit. Someone told you that you were brainwashed by liberals, and your response, like a big baby, is "NO YOUR BRAINWASHED BY REPUBLICANS!! AAAARRRGGGG!!" lol. Hitler was reacking havoc on Jews in his own country. At least George Bush got us invovled in a war where he thought he was prtecting everyone in his country, and that measn everyone.

[GSW389]

well guys its ur country and u let him into office. all the recent flag burning, anti-american sentiment worldwide is because of that fucking chimpanzee. we have no problem with the american people (as u can see in new orleans), just that bunch of inbreds on capitol hill. Someone shoot them all please.

no dude. anti-american sentiment would be occuring worldwide as long as their is an america. Anyone from George Bush, to Al Sharpton, to my ballsack could be the president and my pubic hairs could be the members of congress, and there would still be anti-american sentiment. get real. george bush is not americas problem, its everyone else.

[ermitonto]

Haha, your a fucking idiot. If its a facist government but its not taking away your freedoms or civil liberties like the nazis did, then what the fuck are you having a problem with?

I said openly contemptuous of freedom. Our leaders are just as willing as the Nazis to trample all over people's freedom, they just don't do it as openly as the Nazis did. Somehow people don't think fascism will ever come until the government is spewing out racist propaganda, but some people (including you) cannot see the degradation of civil liberties that is going on all around us. Get your head out of the mainstream media and look at what's really happening in the world.

http://www.indymedia.org
http://www.wsws.org

[ermitonto]

no dude. anti-american sentiment would be occuring worldwide as long as their is an america. Anyone from George Bush, to Al Sharpton, to my ballsack could be the president and my pubic hairs could be the members of congress, and there would still be anti-american sentiment. get real. george bush is not americas problem, its everyone else.
I see you've been indoctrinated by George Bush's oversimplistic and hateful idea that the world is divided into good (us) and evil (foreigners). Get real.

[mellow mood]

GSW, the problem's not Bush? wake up dude i cant even imagine how a fuckin dumbass like this guy got elected. i mean jeez this guy is a real fucktard hes just the stupidiest president that USA ever had.

hes a fuckin racist facist bitch, he doesnt care about his own fuckin population, he attacks other countries, kill innocents, is againt gays, against abortion, for the legalization of semi-automatics weapons, and more.

i mean fuck if u say the population is the problem well maybe its coz they were fuckin brainwashed by all the fuckin governments they had.

USA has just few big fat rich cock suckers and half of its population is dying in the streets and in ghettos which raise the fuckin criminality like nowhere else.

sorry to say that but bush is the fuckin terrorist.

[Seag420]

first off, you cant compare bush to hitler, as some people seem too. from the end of the first world war hitler had it in his head he was gona try and wipe out the jews, bush is trying to wipe out terrorist, even if he's going the wrong way about it. and secondly emitonto, degradation of every countrys civil liberties is inevitable, govenments will allways abuse there positions

[Euphoric]

Fascism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
(Redirected from Facism)
This article is part of the
Fascism series.

This series is linked to the
Politics and elections series

Varieties and derivatives of fascism

Neo-Fascism
Nazism
Rexism
Falangism
Clerical fascism
Austrofascism
Crypto-fascism
Japanese fascism
Greek fascism



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Fascist political parties and movements

Arrow Cross Party (Hungary)
Blueshirts (Ireland)
Brazilian Integralism
British Fascist parties
Faisceau (France)
Falange Española
Iron Guard (Romania)
Nasjonal Samling (Norway)
Silver Legion of America (USA)
Ustaše (Croatia)



Fascism (in Italian, fascismo), capitalized, was the authoritarian political movement which ruled Italy from 1922 to 1943 under the leadership of Benito Mussolini. Similar political movements spread across Europe between World War One and World War Two and took several forms such as Nazism and Clerical fascism. Neofascism is generally used to describe post-WWII movements seen to have fascist attributes.

Fascism was typified by attempts to impose state control over all aspects of life. The definitional debates and arguments by academics over the nature of fascism, however, fill entire bookshelves. There are clearly elements of both left and right ideology in the development of Fascism.

Modern colloquial usage of the word has extended the definition of the terms fascism and neofascism to refer to any totalitarian worldview regardless of its political ideology, although scholars frown on this. Sometimes the word "fascist" is used as a hyperbolic political epithet.

The word "fascism" comes from fascio (plural: fasci), which may mean "bundle," as in a political or militant group or a nation, but also from the fasces (rods bundled around an axe), which were an ancient Roman symbol of the authority of magistrates. The Italian 'Fascisti' were also known as Black Shirts for their style of uniform incorporating a black shirt (See Also: political colour).

Italian Fascism is often considered to be a proper noun and thus denoted by a capital letter "F", whereas generic fascism is conventionally represented with the lower-case character "f". Italian Fascism is considered a model for other forms of fascism, yet there is disagreement over which aspects of structure, tactics, culture, and ideology represent a "fascist minimum" or core.

weee i grow your brain ready for the harvest

[ermitonto]

first off, you cant compare bush to hitler, as some people seem too. from the end of the first world war hitler had it in his head he was gona try and wipe out the jews, bush is trying to wipe out terrorist, even if he's going the wrong way about it. and secondly emitonto, degradation of every countrys civil liberties is inevitable, govenments will allways abuse there positions
Which is exactly why I'm an anarchist. But of all government types, I think fascism is the worst since it deprives people of freedom and civil liberties the most, and it's even more deplorable that people don't even understand what fascism is. Bush is not trying to wipe out terrorists, that is just a cover he is using to go into oil-rich places. Tell me, if he were really concerned with terrorists, why doesn't he do anything about the terrorist military dictatorships in sub-Saharan Africa or Southeast Asia? Well, he doesn't give a shit about sub-Saharan Africa or Southeast Asia because they have no real resources to give him. At least not anything comparable to Iraq or Afghanistan. If you think his motive is really terrorism, you're deluding yourself.

And yes, I can compare this fascist régime to other fascist régimes. It's not just Hitler's Germany that was fascist; it was Mussolini's Italy, Franco's Spain, Suharto's Indonesia, etc. I urge you to look into these governments and what they had in common, and what they have in common with the direction our society is heading in under the neoconservatives. (http://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm) Fascism doesn't mean you kill 6 million people. Whether or not your government aims to commit genocide is not the determining factor on whether it is fascist or not.

[mellow mood]

heres a simple definition of facism: u dont accept difference. i can show an example such as blacks, homosexuals, and more

oops, dunno why but i suddently the word bush just poped in my head

[Euphoric]

heres a simple definition of facism: u dont accept difference. i can show an example such as blacks, homosexuals, and more

oops, dunno why but i suddently the word bush just poped in my head

hhhhhaha

[Seag420]

bush probely may of attacked iraq because of the oil, but him beleaving that it was a terrorist hideout also convinced him to do it. of corse it shows he's an idiot, but he still thinks its the right way to stop terrorist

[ermitonto]

No, the neocons had an invasion of Iraq in the planning long before. The terrorist hideout thing was a conscious lie on their part intented to rally the public behind their aggression (ordinary people don't like the idea of going into places for oil, you see...) See this site for more info: http://www.pnac.info

[beachguy in thongs]

SERIOUS THOUGHT- Someone forward this to the President.

God tried to wake us up through the hurricane.
We better legalize pot before the Appalachians erupt.

[ermitonto]

News flash: Devastating hurricanes, typhoons, cyclones and monsoons have been around for millions of years, even back when pot was legal. "God" isn't "warning" anybody about anything with any hurricanes. You'd think if he really wanted to warn people about something, he would do it in a way that's not really ambiguous what it means. Some conservatives took the hurricane to mean we have to get rid of homosexuals, and you're taking it to mean we need to get rid of drug laws. Why can't God spell out something in the clouds? That would make it a lot clearer what his warning is about, and people might feel, I don't know, warned.

[beachguy in thongs]

You have a point with the homosexuals. Why doesn't a catastrophic event ever post-pone, or worse, destroy, marijuana marches?

[ermitonto]

I bet sometimes they do. Catastrophic events happen at random. Face it.

[BUZz UK]

Get this, saw it on the news: A cable car is travelling up a mountain, hundreds of feet in the air. Building work is going on nearby, with helicopters taking supplies there. A chopper flies over the cable car whilst carrying a shit-large block of concrete, and the cable snaps, dropping the concrete onto the cable car. It kills everyone inside. Now that's random!

[beachguy in thongs]

That's not real. No way. No one can have luck that bad.

That's like a fly, carrying an army ant, landing on your back and crawling in your asshole.

Tell me that didn't happen...no way...that's fucked up.

[BUZz UK]

yeah man, i saw it on the news, i couldn't believe it, but in a whole universe, random shit is gonna happen, it's not that improbable...

[Omun]

How could anyone forgive the worst disaster to hit the United States?

[BUZz UK]

lol

[ermitonto]

Haha, finally some candid journalism!

[beachguy in thongs]

Isn't it funny that Haley's comet crosses our path every (don't know) 76, or 96 years, yet doesn't hit us. I heard this German scientist talk about it on the movie "Rainbow Bridge" (Hendrix-1970, in Hawaii). It's weird but maybe you should check that movie out just to see that guy. He said he's the nephew of Albert Einstein.

[mikeo14]

I think its worth it to go through the risks of the law to get to weed more than it is to have easy weed acces and bush forgived for thousands oflives

[GSW389]

GSW, the problem's not Bush? wake up dude i cant even imagine how a fuckin dumbass like this guy got elected. i mean jeez this guy is a real fucktard hes just the stupidiest president that USA ever had.

hes a fuckin racist facist bitch, he doesnt care about his own fuckin population, he attacks other countries, kill innocents, is againt gays, against abortion, for the legalization of semi-automatics weapons, and more.

i mean fuck if u say the population is the problem well maybe its coz they were fuckin brainwashed by all the fuckin governments they had.

USA has just few big fat rich cock suckers and half of its population is dying in the streets and in ghettos which raise the fuckin criminality like nowhere else.

sorry to say that but bush is the fuckin terrorist.

dude, you said absolutly nothing there, do you realize that? Why are you criticizing him for being racist? You just called jews stupid ina post i just read. And for the guy that said I am caught up in Bush's lies because I think the rest of the world hates us anyway, I am here to say you absolutly right. The bombings of the WTC in 93 were because people hate Bush. Hell 9/11 occurred because Osama bin LAden was so outraged that Bush was elected and was going to ruin our country. And the French, they ahte Lance armstrong, not cause hes an American, but Bush is his president.

P.S. you say Bush is against gays like homosexuality is a race or ethnicity. Its niether of those things and people need to stop treating it like it is those things. Its a fucking lifestyle choice, and a dirty despicable sacreligious one at that.

[ermitonto]

How can YOU denounce racism with your racist comment that all non-Americans think alike? Open your eyes, and realize that Americans aren't the only people with diversity of opinion.

P.S. Homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice. All the scientific evidence suggests that it is not a voluntary behavior, but an innate trait of certain people, and you can't "convert" gay people to heterosexuality.

[beachguy in thongs]

I saw this thing that explained why and it said that men are born with more spots on a particular part of the brain than woman, and gays have less than straights.
It was a while ago. Before they ever invented the internet in my living room.

[Canadabis]

I would personally kill that man, with my bare hands.
And I think killing is for cowards.

[Melton420]

hell no ... fuck no i hate the bastars

[Melton420]

and cannabis you need to watch yourself, the dea can come in and take your ass away for a threat like that

[GHoSToKeR]

P.S. you say Bush is against gays like homosexuality is a race or ethnicity. Its niether of those things and people need to stop treating it like it is those things. Its a fucking lifestyle choice, and a dirty despicable sacreligious one at that.
Who cares if it's 'sacreligious'? Your religion is NOT the only religion in the world, and not everybody even belongs to a religion.. you need to learn that.

Oh and even if homosexuality was a lifestyle choice or not, what the FUCK does it have to do with you?

[buginabassbin]

if bush legalized pot it would be about one nice thing you could write about him in an obituary.

[lateralus]

So, if he chose to, he could just wave his hands, and marijuana would be legalized?

No. I wouldn't forgive him. He should've managed to get some common sense by the time he turned twenty.

[beachguy in thongs]

Twenty-years from now, he'd be known for 9-11, being a moron, and legalizing pot.

[lateralus]

Indeed. Well, two out of three ain't bad. :stoned:

Well that'll be the day
When you say goodbye
That'll be the day
When you make me cry
You say you're gonna leave
You know it's a lie
Cause that'll be the dayyyyy that I die

[BlueCat00]

why the fantasy? FUCK BUSH. He is the enemy to any weed smoker with a brain.



Bush has not voiced any support for decriminalizing the possession of marijuana for personal use and crime statistics from the height of his administration demonstrate his lack of tolerance. According to NORML, the 2002 FBI Uniformed Crimes Report shows that 697,082 people were arrested for drug violations in 2002, accounting for almost half of the total drug arrests in the entire nation. Of those 697,082 people, 88% of them were arrested for possession-only offences while the remaining arrests where charged with â??sale/manufacture,â?� while even included those who were producing it privately for medicinal uses. Under Bushâ??s presidency, â??Operations Pipe Dreamsâ?� and â??Operation Headhunterâ?� have both been enacted by the Drug Enforcement Agency, spearheaded by Attorney General John Ashcroft. Both target businesses that sell or distribute glass pipes, or other smoking paraphernalia. In 2003 alone, 50 individuals, including actor Tommy Chong, were indicted, resulting in 3 years in prison and/or a $250,000 fine, depending upon the indictment

[Randycigar]

Well if he did.. then I'm pretty sure the weed would take over n' we'd all just be friends.. even osama.. even though I'd prolly kill him if I had the chance.. lol =D just for everone else.. I could care less about 9/11 I knew NO ONE in there.. so I dont really give a shit.. =S just dont want it to be me.. ya know?

[doctahdoobie]

NO iwouldnt take it if he offered it like that im already smoking for years straight. fuck em

[jahjahjahjah]

to bad its not up to bush to legalize it

[emg]

didn't you guys know?? bush is the anti-christ

[Rarrr]

If Bush legalised weed then it would be a good excuse to delegalise weed for the next guy who gets into power. People should be able to vote for a president who is more philosophical instead of the power hungry halfwits you have to choose from.

[king kong bong]

bush was responsible for 9/11, be it he had a hand in it or just allowed it to happen. the usa is the most secure country in the world, attacks only come from the inside. a lot of blokes laugh and mock conspiracy theorists, but the conspiracy theorist theories are true no matter how ridiculous you find them to be. everything doesnt have to happen all at once, it happens a lil bit a time. pretty soon paper money is going to be gone, just look at all the commercials on how you dont need money anymore, all you gotta do is use your debit,bank, etc... card. so keep an open mind.

[emg]

read "behold a pale horse" by william cooper and you'll know the truth about this fucked up country

[king kong bong]

i will look into it emg, thanks for the info.

[emg]

i will look into it emg, thanks for the info.

no doubt bro

[Omni05]

cannadabis, i would also suggest you becareful what you mention on these forums. generally speaking when they investigate people venting online it is usually just a verbal reprimand, but no point in staying in their crosshairs if you don't have to ;)

[psychopixi]

Nope. And I don't even live in America.

[Caruso329]

I haven't read all the thoughts and posts. But Bush must be severed from office. He cannot replace the lives and the rights and the FREEDOMS he's stripped away from the people now. If he was to legalize marijuana it would be for all the wrong reasons. It would be because he's trying to get us on his side. And if we were to smoke that new legal BUSHREEFER, we'd be no different from him. But I am legalizing it for the reason that it is a natuaral plant and should be treated with the utmost respect.

[beachguy in thongs]

read "behold a pale horse" by william cooper and you'll know the truth about this fucked up country
I looked it up and got a 1964 movie with Gregory Peck.

Behold A Pale Horse is a book by William Milton Cooper (ISBN 0929385225)

Written after Cooper was a member of the US Naval Intelligence Briefing Team of the Commander in Chief of the United States Pacific Fleet, the book details many of Cooper's claims about the alleged influence of UFOs on US government agencies, the assassination of President John F. Kennedy , the Apollo hoaxes and other topics.

Some readers have found Behold a Pale Horse a convincing and persuasive book, while others have doubted many of Cooper's claims.

One prediction the book makes is that the Cassini-Huygens satellite, a controversy at the time of its launch due to its plutonium payload, was intended to ignite Jupiter, creating the star Lucifer.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

i cannot forgive the war in iraq untill it is over, i cannot then forgive any additional problems that occur as a result of the war, untill they are fixed.

i cannot forgive him for destroying social security, not untill he restores it.

i cannot forgive his wrongs, for a single right that has nothing to do with his past wrong doings.

[mightymarijuanabuds]

it isn't up to bush, if it was it wouldn't matter, coz it would never happen, and nothing he could do would ever come close to making up for his terrible (in)actions

it's really sad that so many proud pot smokers are so closed minded.. .see some of the racist posts in this thread alone, not to mention the rest of these forums

all the many aspects of our diversity is part of what makes the world such a great place, and conversely, intolerance of others is responsible for some of the most vile acts in human history (even worse stuff than bush has done).... you'd think after 7000 years of written history that we all would know better...

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

it isn't up to bush, if it was it wouldn't matter, coz it would never happen, and nothing he could do would ever come close to making up for his terrible (in)actions

it's really sad that so many proud pot smokers are so closed minded.. .see some of the racist posts in this thread alone, not to mention the rest of these forums

all the many aspects of our diversity is part of what makes the world such a great place, and conversely, intolerance of others is responsible for some of the most vile acts in human history (even worse stuff than bush has done).... you'd think after 7000 years of written history that we all would know better...
YOU'D THINK!!! care to help me start a commune? :D :P


get away from all the ignorance and intolerance, and just live freely off the land :D


c'mon i need support here.

[mightymarijuanabuds]

LOL

hey im down... i was born and raised in the freakin wilderness, in a village full of ignorant folk... but at least i got a head start on the livin off the land thing :)

let me finish my herbal medicine program first... we will need a good witch doctor ;) :dance:

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

no worries! i have a complete book! we take that along, and anyone can be a witch Dr. shaman, or even spiritual guide! :D


im pretty sure my mom's done reading it :P it is hers anyways... but im willing to bet she'd be willing to part with it if i ever had a real use for it :D like this :P




tells pretty much everything you need to know about every medicinal and harmful plant on earth, with the sole exception of hemp :P

but we know enough about that :P

[lateralus]

Damn, I spilled coffee on my hoodie. ><

[mightymarijuanabuds]

good deal, but i study chinese medicine

an herbal treatment can consist of up to 30 herbs mixed together in diffrent proportion, each formula is tailored specifically to the individual :D

im gettin kinda off topic here though ... anyway

buck fush!!

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

meh off topic oh well, i call it a tangent stemming from the origonal topic :D

herbal medicine and mental medicine are the only cures i accept, no pills, or other pharmacuticals.

[Orleans2]

I know it sounds crazy 2 all u who live in the real world ,,but ,,a few ??'s
Why do u hate Bush ?
Why does everyone else Hate him ?
Do u think it really makes him loose any sleep ,whenever he does sleep that u hate him ?
Why the hell does California people waste their day holding picket signs protesting A man who lives across the country ???
Do you think Bush tokes up w/ Brownie ? :rasta:

[BaseRSX]

No way. As much as I would agree with legalizing pot and would enjoy the benefits of having pot legal... I would never put my own little pleasures ahead of the fact that thousands of innocent Iraqi and afghani civilians have been murdered over lies.

Bush is an international war criminal in my opinion and nothing as trivial as making pot legal could ever make up for the wide spread suffering he has cased for so many people all over the world!

[BoyNamedSue]

not to be an ass but about 95% of you have ablsolutely no grasp on american politics or the presidents foriegn policy.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

no one is going to arrest an international war criminal, who owns the biggest country, unless his country fights back


fuck you all for your god damned ignorance :(

[BaseRSX]

not to be an ass but about 95% of you have ablsolutely no grasp on american politics or the presidents foriegn policy.

LOL now that is rich! â??No grasp on the presidentâ??s foreign policyâ?�?!?! How can you grasp something that does NOT EXIST!!! The only foreign policy Bush has is to try to make Christianity legal in the countries it is not. Other than that he doesnâ??t give a shit about any policies or relations with other countries at all!!

[BoyNamedSue]

no one is going to arrest an international war criminal, who owns the biggest country, unless his country fights back


fuck you all for your god damned ignorance :(

that must go for you too then, saying the president "owns" the country is completely ignorant. there is no ownership. all of you have this dillusion that Bush is this almight ruler over our government but fail to realize that we do have a congress. ive only skimmed this thread and have seen the words "bush led us" (referring to Iraq) more than i can count. the Iraq invasion took a vote from congress. i bet you all voted for john kerry right? guess how he voted...yes. is time to jump off the hate-bush bandwagon and start looking into our nations issue with your own minds and not regurgitate the crap you read on indy websites and michael moore movies.

btw im a liberal democrat so dont play the 'youre an ignorant redneck' game.

[lateralus]

that must go for you too then, saying the president "owns" the country is completely ignorant. there is no ownership. all of you have this dillusion that Bush is this almight ruler over our government but fail to realize that we do have a congress. ive only skimmed this thread and have seen the words "bush led us" (referring to Iraq) more than i can count. the Iraq invasion took a vote from congress. i bet you all voted for john kerry right? guess how he voted...yes. is time to jump off the hate-bush bandwagon and start looking into our nations issue with your own minds and not regurgitate the crap you read on indy websites and michael moore movies.

btw im a liberal democrat so dont play the 'youre an ignorant redneck' game.Well, I actually agree. I've been waiting for someone to say that. This isn't a monarchy.

Doesn't excuse Bush, though.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

actually, i was inciting a revolt lol im tired of the complaining too just a different approach... :D

[BoyNamedSue]

LOL now that is rich! â??No grasp on the presidentâ??s foreign policyâ?�?!?! How can you grasp something that does NOT EXIST!!! The only foreign policy Bush has is to try to make Christianity legal in the countries it is not. Other than that he doesnâ??t give a shit about any policies or relations with other countries at all!!

saying that the president's foreign policy "does not exist" and that christianity has to do with anything is nothing but brainless hyperbole and if you truely believe that its not even worth my time rebut.

[BaseRSX]

that must go for you too then, saying the president "owns" the country is completely ignorant. there is no ownership. all of you have this dillusion that Bush is this almight ruler over our government but fail to realize that we do have a congress. ive only skimmed this thread and have seen the words "bush led us" (referring to Iraq) more than i can count. the Iraq invasion took a vote from congress. i bet you all voted for john kerry right? guess how he voted...yes. is time to jump off the hate-bush bandwagon and start looking into our nations issue with your own minds and not regurgitate the crap you read on indy websites and michael moore movies.

btw im a liberal democrat so dont play the 'youre an ignorant redneck' game.

Well at least you are some what intelligent in that you are right of course. Saying Bush â??ownsâ?� America is just about one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. He is an elected official and an employee of the citizens of America. Not to mention there are term limits on his position to ensure that he can not â??ownâ?�, â??controlâ?� or â??work forâ?� our country more than 8 years.

As for your belligerent criticism of John Kerry and how he voted that is such an old argument and Iâ??m sure you actually understand the flaw in it even though you are not saying it. I am a liberal Democrat. I did vote for Kerry. I also was a register republican in 2000 just so I could vote for McCain over Bush!! I then voted for Gore over Bush. I knew back in 2000 that Bush was the biggest idiot and was SHOCKED, truly SHOCKED that you idiot republicans would let him win the primary over McCain!!

What you are leaving out is the fact that Kerry and all the other members of the house and senate were under the impressions from the same lies the rest of our country was. I too supported invading Iraq back then, I really believed that Saddam was linked to the attacks of 9-11 and had WMDs. But like Kerry I have since learned that these were lies and fabrications built up by the Bush admin and the CIA. There are no excuses for this. He not only lied to us but the rest of the world!

The argument that bush and ESPECIALLY Cheney had no more info about the validity of these claims back then is preposterous and you know it! Bush and Crook Cheney are liars and cheats and should be impeached and thrown in jail for lying to our country and the world and for putting out troops in a quagmire situation!

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

you wonder why bush was elected?


you said it yourself...


fabrications built up by the Bush admin and the CIA.

[maskedpantsman]

nope...nope I wouldn't...and no, I didn't read what everyone else said...so...fuck you.

[king kong bong]

that must go for you too then, saying the president "owns" the country is completely ignorant. there is no ownership. all of you have this dillusion that Bush is this almight ruler over our government but fail to realize that we do have a congress. ive only skimmed this thread and have seen the words "bush led us" (referring to Iraq) more than i can count. the Iraq invasion took a vote from congress. i bet you all voted for john kerry right? guess how he voted...yes. is time to jump off the hate-bush bandwagon and start looking into our nations issue with your own minds and not regurgitate the crap you read on indy websites and michael moore movies.

btw im a liberal democrat so dont play the 'youre an ignorant redneck' game.

well congress doesnt seem to put up much of a fight.


Well at least you are some what intelligent in that you are right of course. Saying Bush â??ownsâ?� America is just about one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. He is an elected official and an employee of the citizens of America. Not to mention there are term limits on his position to ensure that he can not â??ownâ?�, â??controlâ?� or â??work forâ?� our country more than 8 years.

all smokescreens, all these dudes are playin for the same team.

[KoRnStaR]

Damn, people are sad here.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

people are sad everywhere my friend. we all feel repressed these days...

[mightymarijuanabuds]

yea.. .the 1 party system pretending to be a 2 party system

some ppl are fooled so easily

so who are you voting for next election.. republicrat? or democran? you know it doesn't matter who wins, we all lose right?

[erceg]

nope

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

dont bother voting, your votes dont matter, only your state rep.'s votes make any difference, and they can chose to ignroe hte HELL out of you, if they are republican.

they are forced to go with the majority when they are democratic. or at least i think they are...

[mightymarijuanabuds]

theres a whole pile of 3rd parties to choose from... libertarians, greens, marijuana party, communists :P... any one of them will get matching federal funds / equal access to debates , etc once they recieve a small percentage of the vote... its either 3 or 5 i forget

vote green!! :P

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

yeah, but it still boils down to your state representitives' votes, not YOURS.