Convert your existing car to run off hydrogen.

[Omun]

Has anyone else read this? http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/h2.htm it was a very interesting read and I think it would be quite awesome if this made it to the general public. It is on digg.com's main page right now here is the original digg to the story. http://digg.com/science/Affordable_hydrogen_fueled_cars_-_Never_buy_gas_again_
I would love to have this thing in my car, and if the hydrogen was produced with natural energy like solar power or wind power it would be huge step in the right direction I think.

[Nightstar]

you'll be driving a giant bomb. In a collision, expect to die in a huge fireball/explosion.

[oncea420alwaysa420]

you'll be driving a giant bomb. In a collision, expect to die in a huge fireball/explosion.
If you would have read further it will explain the hydrides of hydrogen and it says that a incendiary bullet can be fired through it and the tanks can be cut in half and not lose hydrogen. this is all true and acurate. The only thing I would be worried about is the burning out of the rings. I believe that hydrogen burns at a higher temp than conventional gasoline and will burn out the piston rings. Kind of like running premium gas in an old car. I work on cars on the side of my normal operations as kind of a hobby and relaxation tool from the stress. If you replaced the rings with some of higher quality (made to withstand the high heat) rings as opposed to converting your car with stock piston rings, I don't see why it would not be a great thing to do except the cost. If you do the math, and your car is not made to last over 250,000 miles it is not saving you any money at all.

[a. beezy]

Science has a LONG WAY to go before we safely harness hydrogen fusion. So far, only space(nothing) can contain such a reaction.

[oncea420alwaysa420]

well said.

[a. beezy]

ooops, posted something here on the way wrong thread.

[a. beezy]

Ok, I'm drunk, but when we make hydrogen cars, they might just fly AND travel time. Just a little food for thought.

[oncea420alwaysa420]

i AM drunk as well. The idea of a flying car is just too far ahead of my thinking. Lots of conversion of our highway system and too much work for those government fucks to handle. It is possible for the auto manufacts to make them now I assume, and to make them available to all at a cheap cost. The hydrogen car could easily be mass produced and sold to the public but the oil companies pay them off to not do that.

FUCK THOSE OIL COMPANY BASTARDS THAT CONTROL PRICING.

[ChuckECheese]

Just a little food for thought.

I wish I had some Wendy's now. lol! *baked*

[a. beezy]

mmm.. jr bacon deliciousness

[NextGen]

How fast can hydrogen get ya?

[duckofdeath]

hydro gen is the wave of the future...if you think it will explode what do you think will happen to gasoline????

[DaBuh]

i AM drunk as well. The idea of a flying car is just too far ahead of my thinking. Lots of conversion of our highway system and too much work for those government fucks to handle. It is possible for the auto manufacts to make them now I assume, and to make them available to all at a cheap cost. The hydrogen car could easily be mass produced and sold to the public but the oil companies pay them off to not do that.

FUCK THOSE OIL COMPANY BASTARDS THAT CONTROL PRICING.

Yeah they could make flying cars easily, meh. to the main point, oil companies do see that eventually they will run out of oil so they say they are in the energy production business, lots of companies like mobile and others are researching hydrogen cars and such. This is not to say they dont pay people off left and right to keep oil as the main energy source until they figure it out first which sucks balls.

[Nullific]

It would be a lot easier to modify a diesel engine to run hemp oil or a biodiesel/petro mixture.

[Drago]

YUp and you can use just regualar vegetable oil in your diesel engine and it works pretty good i guess. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html

[beachguy in thongs]

ooops, posted something here on the way wrong thread.

a. beezy says to himself, "So fuck it, I'll post again."

[flamingskullballs]

i say we just ride horses for the most part, at least until we can have cars that dont ruin the enviroment...

horses are cooler anyways, they can shit on stuff...

[beachguy in thongs]

They should have a monorail in every city.

[turm]

Science has a LONG WAY to go before we safely harness hydrogen fusion. So far, only space(nothing) can contain such a reaction.

actually you are very very wrong, there are many nuclear fusion reactors in universities around the USA and the very first fully functional nuclear fusion power plant to be used for a countries energy grid is being built in France by the French and Japanesse. There is also a new kind of cold fusion being tested (not done the way first thought) that shows alot of potential and a google on the subject will bring them up.

[turm]

more on topic. Alot of the City Busses in Vancouver B.C. are hydrogen powered. and in Iceland their is a big movement and all vechicles are being convereted to hydrogen powered

[beachguy in thongs]

I remember hearing, in 8th grade.........let me count...........no 7th......18 years ago, that we can run a city with a bucket of water from the ocean using fission.

[turm]

how big is the bucket? how big is the city? and for how long?
=-p
lol

[a. beezy]

actually you are very very wrong, there are many nuclear fusion reactors in universities around the USA and the very first fully functional nuclear fusion power plant to be used for a countries energy grid is being built in France by the French and Japanesse. There is also a new kind of cold fusion being tested (not done the way first thought) that shows alot of potential and a google on the subject will bring them up.


No dude, we are both wrong, but u did alert me to a new fact. So, thanks.
And, for everyone's info... hydrogen fusion is what the sun is. We don't have that technology.

from wikipedia.org..........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER


ITER is an international tokamak (magnetic confinement fusion) experiment, planned to be built in France and designed to show the scientific and technological feasibility of a full-scale fusion power reactor. It builds upon research conducted on devices such as TFTR, JET, JT-60, and T-15, and will be considerably larger than any of them. The program is anticipated to last for 30 years - 10 years for construction, and 20 years of operation - and cost approximately â?¬10 billion. After many years of deliberation, the participants announced in June, 2005 that ITER will be built in Cadarache, France.

The name is an acronym; ITER stands for International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor and 'iter' means 'the way' in Latin. The double meaning allows the name to be used as a reference to ITER being the way to harnessing nuclear fusion as a peaceful power source.

ITER is intended to be an experimental step between today's studies of plasma physics and future electricity-producing fusion power plants. It is technically ready to start construction and the first plasma operation is expected in 2015.


from wikipedia.org..........
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITER

[beachguy in thongs]

how big is the bucket? how big is the city? and for how long?
=-p
lol

Not sure. Elected Earth Science over Physics in high school.

I learned that it was for an 'entire' city. Again, this was by my 7th grade teacher, Mr. Jung.

[turm]

... im to stoned for this right now

[mrdevious]

It would be a lot easier to modify a diesel engine to run hemp oil or a biodiesel/petro mixture.

we're already using up too much of our soil too fast, just trying to feed everybody. I dont' think we need to exhuast our soils nutrients for fuel as well.

[beachguy in thongs]

but ummm, these reactors fuse two hydrogen into one helium, so yes we do have hydrogen fusion.

Fission is the process. Opposite of fusion.

[turm]

no no i just got my thoughts mixxed up and what i was talking about was hydrogen - tritium fission lol my bad.

Also i go this off of a site

"a gallon of seawater could produce as much energy as 300 gallons of gasoline"

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/nucene/fusion.html#c2

[beachguy in thongs]

Cool, now I know I wasn't taught a bunch of crap in middle school. Well, I was, at least not that part.

It seems to me like that would be able to run two cities with one bucket of water.

[beachguy in thongs]

The splitting of the atoms is where the great release of energy is.

[turm]

ohhh im really stoned, it is fusion not fission. current nuclear power is by fission which is spliting the atoms, fusion is combining (spelling?) them together which gives off much more energy.

[beachguy in thongs]

Those graphics in that link were the shit. Did you hit the 'compare to fission' button?

[turm]

yeah, and FUSION yields 676 where as FISSION yields 176

[beachguy in thongs]

With fusion, the conversion to energy is 4.98 m per kg fuel, fission is 235.8
I'm drunk so I'm copying this with goggles on.

[turm]

no thats for one atom and since the uranium is MUCH larger it releases much more energy, hydrogen is MUCH MUCH smaller therefore it releases less energy per atom but when compared by weight the fusion yields much more energy..in that diagram where it says Conversion to energy per kg fuel, that means that is what that step of the equation is doing

[beachguy in thongs]

I said before that I chose Earth Science over Physics. And that I copied that with goggles on. Don't make me pull the blanket over my head and embarass me with the table of elements, or anything.

[turm]

lol, sorry man, wasnt trying to do that at all.

[beachguy in thongs]

Why would they say fission is the process they'd use for this 'bucket of water' trick, then?