Officers issued Tasers at Cabarrus County high schools

[pisshead]

wow, yeah, great fucking idea. give tasers to ISD fake cops...the new freedom is a police state dictatorship...but we're allowed to have that here because we have freedom.

Officers issued Tasers at Cabarrus County high schools

Independent Tribune | August 26 2005 (http://www.independenttribune.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=CIT/MGArticle/CIT_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1031784676574&path=!news)

CONCORD - Concord police officers assigned to city high schools will be armed with Tasers when school starts today.

Concord Police Chief Merl Hamilton told the Cabarrus County School Board of his decision on Thursday during its work session.

School resource officers at Jay M. Robinson, Central Cabarrus and Concord high schools will be issued the weapons today.

Resource officers at those schools were given Tasers stun guns at the end of April as part of a trial run. Officers did not use the weapons, but Hamilton said he wants officers to be able to have the tool when necessary.

â??When a police officer physically confronts somebody, there is a possibility somebody will get hurt,â?� Hamilton said. â??We believe the Taser will be a tool that we will use to keep our schools safe.â?�

Hamilton said that during the 2003-04 school year, a school resource officer was out of work for three to four months because his shoulder was injured after having to wrestle a student.

Hamilton said that injury could have been prevented if the officer had a Taser.

Wayne Williams, Cabarrus County School Board vice chairman, said he spoke with parents about Tasers.

â??Police officers have been wearing (guns) however long youâ??ve been in school and there hasnâ??t been any concern,â?� he said.

Williams said if itâ??s a choice of an officer having to use a Taser or a handgun, the option should be there.

â??If you look at it that way this is just another tool folks can use without as serious an injury,â?� he said. â??A lot of people are hit by Tasers and able to get up. Look at it that way. This is something less lethal than a handgun.â?�

Hamilton said officers armed with Tasers receive several hours of training and are subjected to a Taser blast, which lasts about five seconds.

A Taser sends 50,000 volts of electricity, pumped at .0164 amps through a person.

Hamilton said since Concord officers started carrying Tasers in 2003, they have only used the weapon about 50 times.

Hamilton said every time an officer uses a Taser or uses force, other than putting a suspect in handcuffs, the incident is documented and reviewed by the officerâ??s supervisors.

Witnesses are also interviewed after the incident, Hamilton said.

Hamilton said school resource officers initially discussed being armed with Tasers not just for the students in school.

â??Our goal is to protect our schools from people that come on campus that shouldnâ??t be on campus,â?� he said.

School board members asked about officers using pepper spray instead of Tasers.

Hamilton said there were less than five cases that pepper spray was used in City of Concord schools.

Cabarrus County Superintendent Dr. Harold Winkler said the problem with pepper spray is more than one person can be affected when officers use the spray. The Taser offers an alternative.

â??I can see deploying that in a room where you want to try and affect one individual,â?� Winkler said.

Officers have said the device can help restrain a suspect without having to use a gun or fight the offender.

But those who oppose Tasers say itâ??s not clear how people are affected after a Taser has been used. There were 103 Taser related deaths in the U.S. and Canada from June 2001 to April 2005, according to an Amnesty International report.

The Cabarrus County Sheriffâ??s Office and Kannapolis Police Department school resource officers are not armed with Tasers.

[stoner spirit]

Why not arm them with handgrenades as well? Better yet, put military personell in our schools instead of cops. I know that the government would love that idea. Have they ever thaught of that?

[WalkaWalka]

Like there aren't even security guards at my school

[Miss Green]

Oh come on seriously when will these people learn that any of these methods arn't going to work? I don't even agree with security guards in any of your schools little lone a bloody taser,we in Australia don't have any security guards in any school seriously.... And what are the side effects of being tasered? It's just shocking to say the least :eek: :mad:

[stoner spirit]

Hahahaha, that's one of the government's ways of controling people.

[nicholasstanko]

its all a part of the plan to condition kids early into thinking you cant fight city hall.


soon, we'll see some big debate on crossfire about whether or not tasers should be used in day care centres and pre-schools.

[pisshead]

yeah, schools are new world order training camps...they train the kids to dress the same, act the same, accept being watched at every move by cameras everywhere, to swipe your card to buy food, to have an id card hanging around your neck (my cousin in NJ was suspended for a day for forgetting her ID card...)...

it goes on and on and on...training the kids to be good citizens...that's why there's such an assault on the rights of homeschoolers to get their kids federalized and in the system...

[stoner spirit]

Yep... Why do you think that some schools make children ware uniforms? It's one of the imperial government's ways of control. Hell, thank the Gods they didn't do that at the school for the blind in Austin when I was going there not too long ago. It's probably gotten alot worse there I realy don't want to know.
Hey Ph., have you passed by the school for the blind?

[pisshead]

i didn't know you were in austin too...

i'm pretty sure i have...it's right near 51st and guadalupe, right? where it changes to north lamar?

[stoner spirit]

That's where the Cris Cole Rehabilitation Center for the Blind is at I think, from what I remember. You're vary close though, lol. There's also another school for the blind right across from Cris Cole, it's called the Texas School for the Blind and Visually Impaired. That's on 45th and Lamar. It has those big white walls surrounding a cupple of parts of it. Try spending both your middle school and high school days in that place, hahahahahaha, you'll come out of that place with either lots of crazy ass stories, or crazy memories. I used to live in the apartments on Conig and Lamar, about two years ago. Damn I miss Austin, getting stoned everyday, and having some college girl leading me around... those were the good old days.

[lilplaya]

man thats wack how they gunna fuck up my cuzzins school like dta i almost got taserred 2day walkin in the door lookin at the popo and sayin pigs wtf its rly fucked up anyway any niggas that can hookme up in concord e-mail me at [email protected] 1 nigs

[Tholiak]

you guys are fucken idiots....Give them Tasers instead of Guns. And have yall been to Schools recently? If its a Primary minority school, I wouldnt be a police officer there unless I had a gun.

[eg420ne]

Dude just STFU your a fuking idiot

[Psycho4Bud]

Our schools don't need cops or protection from nothing! Hell, it's like "Leave it to Beaver" out there folks.

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Moses Lake, Wash. Two students and one teacher killed, one other wounded when 14-year-old Barry Loukaitis opened fire on his algebra class.
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Bethel, Alaska Principal and one student killed, two others wounded by Evan Ramsey, 16.
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Sanaa, Yemen Eight people (six students and two others) at two schools killed by Mohammad Ahman al-Naziri.
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Pearl, Miss. Two students killed and seven wounded by Luke Woodham, 16, who was also accused of killing his mother. He and his friends were said to be outcasts who worshiped Satan.
Dec. 1, 1997
West Paducah, Ky. Three students killed, five wounded by Michael Carneal, 14, as they participated in a prayer circle at Heath High School.
Dec. 15, 1997
Stamps, Ark. Two students wounded. Colt Todd, 14, was hiding in the woods when he shot the students as they stood in the parking lot.
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Jonesboro, Ark. Four students and one teacher killed, ten others wounded outside as Westside Middle School emptied during a false fire alarm. Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Andrew Golden, 11, shot at their classmates and teachers from the woods.
April 24, 1998
Edinboro, Pa. One teacher, John Gillette, killed, two students wounded at a dance at James W. Parker Middle School. Andrew Wurst, 14, was charged.
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Fayetteville, Tenn. One student killed in the parking lot at Lincoln County High School three days before he was to graduate. The victim was dating the ex-girlfriend of his killer, 18-year-old honor student Jacob Davis.
May 21, 1998
Springfield, Ore. Two students killed, 22 others wounded in the cafeteria at Thurston High School by 15-year-old Kip Kinkel. Kinkel had been arrested and released a day earlier for bringing a gun to school. His parents were later found dead at home.
June 15, 1998
Richmond, Va. One teacher and one guidance counselor wounded by a 14-year-old boy in the school hallway.
April 20, 1999
Littleton, Colo. 14 students (including killers) and one teacher killed, 23 others wounded at Columbine High School in the nation's deadliest school shooting. Eric Harris, 18, and Dylan Klebold, 17, had plotted for a year to kill at least 500 and blow up their school. At the end of their hour-long rampage, they turned their guns on themselves.
April 28, 1999
Taber, Alberta, Canada One student killed, one wounded at W. R. Myers High School in first fatal high school shooting in Canada in 20 years. The suspect, a 14-year-old boy, had dropped out of school after he was severely ostracized by his classmates.
May 20, 1999
Conyers, Ga. Six students injured at Heritage High School by Thomas Solomon, 15, who was reportedly depressed after breaking up with his girlfriend.
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Deming, N.M. Victor Cordova Jr., 12, shot and killed Araceli Tena, 13, in the lobby of Deming Middle School.
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Veghel, Netherlands One teacher and three students wounded by a 17-year-old student.
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Mount Morris Township, Mich. Six-year-old Kayla Rolland shot dead at Buell Elementary School near Flint, Mich. The assailant was identified as a six-year-old boy with a .32-caliber handgun.
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Branneburg, Germany One teacher killed by a 15-year-old student, who then shot himself. The shooter has been in a coma ever since.
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Savannah, Ga. Two students killed by Darrell Ingram, 19, while leaving a dance sponsored by Beach High School.
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Lake Worth, Fla. One teacher, Barry Grunow, shot and killed at Lake Worth Middle School by Nate Brazill, 13, with .25-caliber semiautomatic pistol on the last day of classes.
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New Orleans, La. Two students wounded with the same gun during a fight at Woodson Middle School.
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Baltimore, Md. One student shot and killed in front of Lake Clifton Eastern High School.
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Santee, Calif. Two killed and 13 wounded by Charles Andrew Williams, 15, firing from a bathroom at Santana High School.
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Williamsport, Pa. Elizabeth Catherine Bush, 14, wounded student Kimberly Marchese in the cafeteria of Bishop Neumann High School; she was depressed and frequently teased.
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Granite Hills, Calif. One teacher and three students wounded by Jason Hoffman, 18, at Granite Hills High School. A policeman shot and wounded Hoffman.
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Gary, Ind. One student killed by Donald R. Burt, Jr., a 17-year-old student who had been expelled from Lew Wallace High School.
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Caro, Mich. Chris Buschbacher, 17, took two hostages at the Caro Learning Center before killing himself.
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New York, N.Y. A teenager wounded two students at Martin Luther King Jr. High School.
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Freising, Germany Two killed in Eching by a man at the factory from which he had been fired; he then traveled to Freising and killed the headmaster of the technical school from which he had been expelled. He also wounded another teacher before killing himself.
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New Orleans, La. One 15-year-old killed, and three students wounded at John McDonogh High School by gunfire from four teenagers (none were students at the school). The motive was gang-related.
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Red Lion, Pa. James Sheets, 14, killed principal Eugene Segro of Red Lion Area Junior High School before killing himself.
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Cold Spring, Minn. Two students are killed at Rocori High School by John Jason McLaughlin, 15.
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Red Lake, Minn. Jeff Weise, 16, killed grandfather and companion, then arrived at school where he killed a teacher, a security guard, 5 students, and finally himself, leaving a total of 10 dead.
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[Fengzi]

Give it up Psycho. Don't you know that all police/ security should be unarmed and never interfere with anything that happens. God forbid anyone interupt a bunch of 18yo thugs raping a teacher or beating the shit out of some geeky nerd type. That would be a violation of their rights. Plus, if they can't disarm a teenager without usung a weapon they shouldn't be cops in the first place. Right?

PROTECT THE CRIMINALS-FUCK THE INNOCENT :thumbsup:

[Breukelen advocaat]

This high school riot happened today in the city of Mt. Vernon, Westchester County, in the New York metro area:

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=local&id=3646629


School Locked Down After Massive Brawl

Began As Single Fight, But Turned Into A Melee

Eyewitness News' Stacey Sager
(Mt. Vernon, Westchester County - WABC, November 18, 2005) - A high school brawl in Mount Vernon got so out of hand that police were called in. It started as a single fight at Mount Vernon High School, but then turned into a melee.

Eyewitness News reporter Stacey Sager in live tonight with the story.

Fortunately no students were seriously injured, no weapons were confiscated, but the school had to be shut down. Witnesses tell us fights broke out both inside and outside of the school and with 2,600 students under one roof authorities weren't taking any chances.

It all started just after 11:00 a.m. at Mount Vernon High School. Students and school officials say there were a series of fights, at least four of them, mostly in the school's cafeteria.

Diandria Payne, 11th Grader: "And everybody started fighting, throwing chairs, standing on tables, tables breaking."

It got so bad that police rushed to the school in full force and by 12:15 p.m. students were in a lock down, with many calling their parents on cell phones with all kinds of concerns.

Michelle Jones, Parent: "He said they had knives, 'mom come get me I don't want to fight today.'"

Jacqueline Jones, Parent: "They said 'come get your child, there's a riot.'"

By 1:30 p.m. today students were dismissed early from the building but some didn't even wait that long.

Akila Crauth, 11th Grader: "I climbed out the window."

School officials do confirm there are problems with gangs here. The school is certainly not immune to violence. Last March two students were slashed at school, a police officer injured as well. Late this afternoon the Superintendent appeared flabbergasted.

Brenda Smith, Mount Vernon Superintendent: "I'm going to be real, there are some students that I'm going to go after and I have no problem saying that."

The superintendent says she was investigate whether gangs were involved in today's incident. So far one student was arrested but she says she had a list of at least five more that will be suspended.
(Copyright 2005 WABC-TV)

[Breukelen advocaat]

Here's a story, in the NY Times, about today's High School riot incident, with more Information:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/19/nyregion/19fights.html

November 19, 2005

In Mount Vernon, Fights Close a High School Early
By LISA W. FODERARO

A series of fights broke out at Mount Vernon High School in southern Westchester County on Friday, prompting school officials to lock down the school shortly after lunch and send students home early.

The fights, four in all, appeared to start after a dispute over a cellphone, said Terrance Raynor, the city's chief of police. They were not related to recent tensions between young people in Mount Vernon and nearby New Rochelle, which stemmed from two shootings last month, he said.

A police officer was scratched during a scuffle with one student, a 16-year-old girl, who was charged with second-degree assault. Another student, a 16-year-old boy, was charged with disorderly conduct.

Though the high school had been fairly calm in recent months, Mount Vernon - a city of 68,000 that borders the Bronx - has been the setting of numerous fights and shootings in recent years, both in and out of school. A number have involved gangs.

Two years ago, there were four shootings in three days. One victim was a 12-year-old boy shot in the back while playing basketball in a schoolyard.

"These things tend to come in waves," said the mayor, Ernest D. Davis. "It's hard enough growing up, and then you have to deal with guns and a fluid population and the natural consequences of being young. Some don't have strong family backgrounds. All of that plays into how they act."

None of the fights on Friday involved weapons, the police said. Students must pass through metal detectors as they enter the school.

The fistfight thought to be over a cellphone occurred at 11:30 a.m. in a school courtyard. It was followed by another fight in the school's cafeteria, though police are not sure what prompted that one. At 11:45, school officials instituted a lockdown, which involves closing the school's entrances and exits.

At some point, a student pulled a fire alarm. While students gathered outside, there were more "skirmishes," Chief Raynor said. He said all the fights involved a couple of students each, with several onlookers.

Even though the atmosphere was calming down by 12:30, according to Chief Raynor, the Board of Education decided to dismiss students an hour early.

At least one student was injured during the fighting, a boy who needed two stitches after being punched above one eye.

Chief Raynor said that his department would assign extra police officers to the high school on Monday morning. He said that two officers were regularly posted at the high school, a sprawling complex on California Road.

He said there were reports that friction between two groups of students - one group African-American and the other of West Indian background - had led to the initial fight, but he said the police had not confirmed that. According to the 2000 census, 60 percent of Mount Vernon's population is black.

[nicholasstanko]

Give it up Psycho. Don't you know that all police/ security should be unarmed and never interfere with anything that happens. God forbid anyone interupt a bunch of 18yo thugs raping a teacher or beating the shit out of some geeky nerd type. That would be a violation of their rights. Plus, if they can't disarm a teenager without usung a weapon they shouldn't be cops in the first place. Right?

PROTECT THE CRIMINALS-FUCK THE INNOCENT :thumbsup:

Interesting...You name instances where police should be armed but yet you circumnavigate the issues of why the kids in those schools are so tough in the first place.

You seem unaware of the fact that they most likely come from broken homes that is sans a father figure, live primarily on welfare and are almost completely ignored by the gorvernment and manstream media except of course, when it's time to point the finger at rising crime rates...

You also have failed to compare students in the tough inner-city with those in suburban predominantly white schools. Of course the colombine kids werent bangin; in the streets of compton, but they obviously didnt have such fantastic lives either...

i dont suppose more government involvement in actually helping people instead of intimidating them might make things better?


Very interesting...

[nicholasstanko]

Here's a story, in the NY Times, about today's High School riot incident, with more Information:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/19/nyregion/19fights.html

November 19, 2005

In Mount Vernon, Fights Close a High School Early
By LISA W. FODERARO

A series of fights broke out at Mount Vernon High School in southern Westchester County on Friday, prompting school officials to lock down the school shortly after lunch and send students home early.

The fights, four in all, appeared to start after a dispute over a cellphone, said Terrance Raynor, the city's chief of police. They were not related to recent tensions between young people in Mount Vernon and nearby New Rochelle, which stemmed from two shootings last month, he said.

A police officer was scratched during a scuffle with one student, a 16-year-old girl, who was charged with second-degree assault. Another student, a 16-year-old boy, was charged with disorderly conduct.

Though the high school had been fairly calm in recent months, Mount Vernon - a city of 68,000 that borders the Bronx - has been the setting of numerous fights and shootings in recent years, both in and out of school. A number have involved gangs.

Two years ago, there were four shootings in three days. One victim was a 12-year-old boy shot in the back while playing basketball in a schoolyard.

"These things tend to come in waves," said the mayor, Ernest D. Davis. "It's hard enough growing up, and then you have to deal with guns and a fluid population and the natural consequences of being young. Some don't have strong family backgrounds. All of that plays into how they act."

None of the fights on Friday involved weapons, the police said. Students must pass through metal detectors as they enter the school.

The fistfight thought to be over a cellphone occurred at 11:30 a.m. in a school courtyard. It was followed by another fight in the school's cafeteria, though police are not sure what prompted that one. At 11:45, school officials instituted a lockdown, which involves closing the school's entrances and exits.

At some point, a student pulled a fire alarm. While students gathered outside, there were more "skirmishes," Chief Raynor said. He said all the fights involved a couple of students each, with several onlookers.

Even though the atmosphere was calming down by 12:30, according to Chief Raynor, the Board of Education decided to dismiss students an hour early.

At least one student was injured during the fighting, a boy who needed two stitches after being punched above one eye.

Chief Raynor said that his department would assign extra police officers to the high school on Monday morning. He said that two officers were regularly posted at the high school, a sprawling complex on California Road.

He said there were reports that friction between two groups of students - one group African-American and the other of West Indian background - had led to the initial fight, but he said the police had not confirmed that. According to the 2000 census, 60 percent of Mount Vernon's population is black.


Interesting...


You seem to think that things will be just fine between youths and police when they "crack down" on them.

Undoubtedly, you seem to be oblivious to the fact that these very same youths that are bound to be harrassed by the police will one day be adults running the world raising children...

Very interesting...

[Psycho4Bud]

Yah, your right. Let the pooooooor lil' gang-bangers take their knives and guns to school. IT'S THEIR RIGHT! :thumbsup:

[nicholasstanko]

Yah, your right. Let the pooooooor lil' gang-bangers take their knives and guns to school. IT'S THEIR RIGHT! :thumbsup:


interesting...


yo still seem to be unable to discern the difference between being safe and being guarded.

i dont suppose you ever will..


very interesting...

[Psycho4Bud]

interesting...


yo still seem to be unable to discern the difference between being safe and being guarded.

i dont suppose you ever will..


very interesting...

If I had a kid still in the school systems these days I wouldn't be looking at the aspect of big brother taking away some lil' losers right to carry a weapon into the school as much as the safety of my child. Do you think the lil' banger is going to watch over the safety of their classmates or is it a matter since your not there, you don't really give a shit about the safety of students in our schools?