What is wrong with people in this country

[WalkaWalka]

Why are we in Iraq How the fuck did the patriot act get passed
Why is our goverment starting to resemble a fascist regeme more and more

Why can't anyone see what is happening in America
The laws that are being passed in the country are like a Hitler wish list
The goverment is disrespecting our constitution almost openly and no one is doing any thing about it.
Do we even have a congrass or a bunch of slap around pussies who do what there told.
I look around and the things I see make me sick.

[Tholiak]

<~Voted for Bush, Bush isnt ruining this country...Liberal Democrats are

[Phresher than it Got]

god damnit, thats what pisses me off more than anything, fucked up republicans that think the dems are running the country, you fucks are in the fucking whitehouse! if the libs and dems were running the country, we wouldnt be in iraq, the patriot act would be long gone, the war on drugs wouldnt be insanely focused on weed, and our constitution would mean something! your not a minority, republicans and christians, your stronger than ever and ruining the usa!

[WalkaWalka]

I dont much care about partisanship i don't care whose running the country the country is being into the ground

[stoner spirit]

Hey man... I'm sick of this shit as well. The government would rather wipe it's ass with our constatution, than respect and apold it. The government doesn't care about it's citizons either, so fuck them.

[BlazinHaze]

I actually did some campaign work locally for Bush last election. I'm sick of hearing the same fucking complaints from people opposed to what the government does. If there wasn't so much negativity toward the US gov't by Americans, then I believe that a lot of non-Americans would hate Bush a little less. I think in this situation you should support the decisions your president makes because it is for the benefit of the country that we have a leader who appears strong. I know a lot of people in the marines and I do hate that their lives are risked everyday, but at the same time I am so proud to know such patriotic and courageous people. And I know there are probably a lot of liberals/democrats/Bush-haters/anti-Americans looking at this thread, and y'all can waste your words and try to prove me wrong, but I will never change my opinions.

[tofit]

Hey you guys, something you should all know. The government wants you to feel hopeless to stop them. They spend money on psychological warfare, propiganda to keep people thinking this way.

Our police officers are focused on arresting us potsmokers, and cannabis growers. Growing good cannabis takes alot of skill and dedication, its a profession, a business. There taking out the small business people, and stealing their property. If only our policemen were policing the big corperations, and the politicians. Perhaps then we wouldn't have poisionous toxins in our addictive ciggeretts, or in our food, and the air we breath.

Whats with you all, are you feeling hopeless to stop it. Well thats what your suppose to think. Your trained to think that way. You can only sit baack and smoke, and grow, fearing that the government does not take your freedom away someday. All the while there tossing and tumbling policy through the system while we loose interest. Who care's ?

If you feel depressed take Zoloft, may cause thoughts about suicide.
Or take this anti depressant with low sexual side effects, may cause siezures.
Anyone........
Hey, are you sure you arent going crazy. Take these antipsychotics- may cause psychosis.

Or just sit back and watch TV while we give you these messages.....

Anyone notice this, and wondering what we can do about it?

There are many avenues of activism, the question on my mind is "How can we get people motivated to get into activism."

[ezjim]

I dont much care about partisanship i don't care whose running the country the country is being into the ground
good point.. if you look closley ..the left and right are really no differant ..except for a couple issue's [ guns abortion ect.ect] the whole left right thing in the US is to keep us distracted from gov't and big biz turning our once great and free country in to some orwellian nightmare ....if we do not learn to put our differances aside and work togeather against big gov't/ biz/organized crime ..they will surely divide and conquer what's left of this country....

[papaw]

I dont much care about partisanship i don't care whose running the country the country is being into the ground
Very good point, in my opinion. This is precisely the mindset that leads to real, effective change. I hate to hear people who disagree with Bush agree with everything the dems say, and vice versa. Open minded rational people like Walka can lead to the election of a viable 3rd party candidate who isn't just a political hack favoring big business (most dems are just as big of assholes as most reps) but has the interests of the American public in mind. There are more than 2 choices out there, but it's our own damn fault for not demanding more than 2 legitimate candidates in every election. There is a lot of ground between far right and far left, but we act like we have to alter our opinions to fit into one of these two extremes. Again, great post Walka.

[WalkaWalka]

The canidates for last year was basicaly same difference both crooked professional politicians. And Nader was more than a questionable choice.

[papaw]

There are literally thousands of people you can vote for. You just need enough signatures to get her name on the ballot. Even then you have the write in vote. Don't let the media or politicians tell you that you have to vote dem, rep, or if you're a rebel then libertarian. Take up some grassroots organization and support it if it fits your views. I'm not going to go through all that trouble though, I'm too lazy. I will probably just quit voting altogether, which is why I need all you guys to take this stuff seriously. Quit smoking grass and go out and start making the world a better place for me to sit at home and get stoned on my couch.

[WalkaWalka]

Um i live in nebraska around here we have nazi like police.And stupid republicans.Now about not smoking grass ive smoke 2 bowls and 3 joints and ive posted over 10 times

[Torog]

<~Voted for Bush, Bush isnt ruining this country...Liberal Democrats are
Howdy Tholiak,

That's a big 10-4...I think it's time for WalkaWalka,to have some cookies and milk...lol...

Have a good one !

[tofit]

Libs Republicans Dems and greens, it doesn't matter where they party. What matters is what they do. Where they pee, and poo. This lady peed her pants during a meeting, she was running for some kind of office. She had some media attention. I wonder if it was her emotional expression towards the system.

[Killa.Kali]

Its either too much drugs or the lack of drugs...either way drugs are the sollution :D

No no seriously now; I really dont have a position on the war in Iraq thing, that gets me in arguements all the time with my dad cuz hes a politically active cum dumpster :cool: he gets mad that I just dont care, he acts like I'm supposed to care, but then I throw something at him and he shuts up :D

Make Fuck Not War :D

[Psycho4Bud]

I actually did some campaign work locally for Bush last election. I'm sick of hearing the same fucking complaints from people opposed to what the government does. If there wasn't so much negativity toward the US gov't by Americans, then I believe that a lot of non-Americans would hate Bush a little less. I think in this situation you should support the decisions your president makes because it is for the benefit of the country that we have a leader who appears strong. I know a lot of people in the marines and I do hate that their lives are risked everyday, but at the same time I am so proud to know such patriotic and courageous people. And I know there are probably a lot of liberals/democrats/Bush-haters/anti-Americans looking at this thread, and y'all can waste your words and try to prove me wrong, but I will never change my opinions.

Beautiful and brains too! Hmmmmmmmmmmmm....possibility of a future x-wife for me. :D

[amsterdam]

Bush voter here!!

seriously,who gives a shit what the liberals have to say?they are digging their own political graves as we speak.this is a democracy,and we are the majority.

[nicholasstanko]

I actually did some campaign work locally for Bush last election. I'm sick of hearing the same fucking complaints from people opposed to what the government does. If there wasn't so much negativity toward the US gov't by Americans, then I believe that a lot of non-Americans would hate Bush a little less. I think in this situation you should support the decisions your president makes because it is for the benefit of the country that we have a leader who appears strong. I know a lot of people in the marines and I do hate that their lives are risked everyday, but at the same time I am so proud to know such patriotic and courageous people. And I know there are probably a lot of liberals/democrats/Bush-haters/anti-Americans looking at this thread, and y'all can waste your words and try to prove me wrong, but I will never change my opinions.

If there was more open negativity and less shutting up, then maybe...juuust maybe people would be more open to both sides of the views. Not just some blind patriotism. You're proud of your marine buddies because of their love of country, but what about when theyre asked to risk their lives based on lies? Doesnt that change the dynamic at all? The president and his goons lied to you and your friends. Do you still want to pledge allegiance to his war drum?

America was founded on being able to say and do as you please. The founding fathers risked their lives so that you'd be able to speak against the government when it got too corrupt. The time is now. If you let them get away with this shit now, what happens a few years down the road when a new administration comes in building their policies around the previous one?

[chillsmoke]

condoleeza rice sounds like a mexican dish... we should put her on a plate and send her to mexico

[chillsmoke]

after college n stuff im gonna run for president as an outsider n whoever wants to be in my cabinet n would have cool shit to say and good ideas respond now... its gonna be awesome

[BeyondOurEarth]

im in

[Button Basher]

If there wasn't so much negativity toward the US gov't by Americans, then I believe that a lot of non-Americans would hate Bush a little less.

You'd like that wouldn't you? I think you'll find us "foreigners" (?) are more concerned about what your governments doing then what Americans are thinking. Only a Republican would think that's a genuine influence.

Your being lied to. That's the explanation.

[WalkaWalka]

CAN'T STOP THE REVOLUTION

[BlazinHaze]

You'd like that wouldn't you? I think you'll find us "foreigners" (?) are more concerned about what your governments doing then what Americans are thinking. Only a Republican would think that's a genuine influence.

Your being lied to. That's the explanation.

So, I love how the only thing Bush-haters can say to people like me is that I'm "being lied to". I think there are some things that the government have to keep from the public for the benefit of the country.

Just a question to all those who disagree with my original post: Who do you think could be a better leader for the US? I mean y'all constantly talk about how bad President Bush is, but really, who would be better?

[Button Basher]

So, I love how the only thing Bush-haters can say to people like me is that I'm "being lied to". I think there are some things that the government have to keep from the public for the benefit of the country.

Just a question to all those who disagree with my original post: Who do you think could be a better leader for the US? I mean y'all constantly talk about how bad President Bush is, but really, who would be better?

I was contradicting your theory that the views of the American people influence those of other countries. It's ridiculous! You guys would jump off a cliff if GW told you it was patriotic. As if we're gonna take your word for anything. :rolleyes:

I don't see what's so hard to understand about it. Bush is a war-mongering fundamentalist Christian that manipulates the American people with false promises, propoganda and sugar coated speeches about freedom and spreading democracy. It's a big circus and only those who are suckered into it think he's in the right. Why don't you take a closer look at the reality of the situation rather then making up a solution that makes you feel warmest inside?

Anti-Bushism isn't something that cropped up out of playground rumours. Grow up.

And to answer your question: Anyone else. :D

[Psycho4Bud]

We all know it would have been Bush or Kerry. Is this what anybody really wanted?

A Ho Chi Minh City museum that honors Vietnam war protesters features a photograph of Sen. John Kerry being greeted by the general secretary of the Communist Party, Comrade Do Muoi.

[BlazinHaze]

I think we should come to an understanding that left/right/middle/whatever, we all have our own ideas about what needs improvement.

http://boards.cannabis.com/showthread.php?t=28797

[highinspain]

What would the neo-cons say to a third party that is even more commited to a police state, let them strip your rights away one by one and soon enough a man will be elected for life in the US, it will turn into a more of a government controlled environment soon enough.

I feel so bad for the children in the US who are being born right now they will have a smelly mess to inherit.

I just wish that the neo-cons would calm down get out of everyones bedroom livingroom and bathroom.....I cannot live in a country like that GWB talks to GOD and God answers him If I said that in a hospital or police station they would put me in an insane assylum....What the fuck??¿¿

[ermitonto]

He's not alone with claiming to have similar divine inspiration, but for me you have to prove it to get me to believe it. I'm sure God hasn't been telling him "Thou shalt kill", yet that's what he's doing.

"By fighting off the Jews, I am doing the Lord's work." â??Adolf Hitler

[NowhereMan]

I actually did some campaign work locally for Bush last election. I'm sick of hearing the same fucking complaints from people opposed to what the government does. If there wasn't so much negativity toward the US gov't by Americans, then I believe that a lot of non-Americans would hate Bush a little less. I think in this situation you should support the decisions your president makes because it is for the benefit of the country that we have a leader who appears strong. I know a lot of people in the marines and I do hate that their lives are risked everyday, but at the same time I am so proud to know such patriotic and courageous people. And I know there are probably a lot of liberals/democrats/Bush-haters/anti-Americans looking at this thread, and y'all can waste your words and try to prove me wrong, but I will never change my opinions.
i hate bush for one reason

and that reason is
'he dont fool me"
fucker dont care about you or me,
can i pick someone out better,probly not.
they all about the same,elections are a pick of two evils,with a side order of independants to choose from
all rich and none have a clue what america really needs becuase they got a pampered life and cant fathom the problems one has without money.or lil of it

[amsterdam]

i've met the president,he cares more than you can even comprehend son.

[WalkaWalka]

are goverment is run in the shadows you dont hear about everything and that goes against all values of our supposed great american goverment
fuck bush what has he dun thats turned out good lately? or ever?

[weirdo79]

ahh the whole condescending "im older thus wiser routine" with the son comment.

Let me guess the logical points brought up dont merit a proper response again right?

If I meet a guy once I know for sure all about him yep , they call me the Great Gambini I did Leno for awhile but I could never take over for Carnac :rolleyes:........

[amsterdam]

older?nope.better informed.

[GiveMeThatBuzz87]

you guys are fucking dumb...we have more freedom than alot of countries and we have better lives...all u want is everything or nothing..? what cant u do that u are so mad about..im so sick of bush haters and shit...we dont need some pussy like john kerry or some other democrate times are hard we need a tough leader not some hippie pussy... the only thing i can complain about is gas prices but thats happening all over the world..

[amsterdam]

you guys are fucking dumb...we have more freedom than alot of countries and we have better lives...all u want is everything or nothing..? what cant u do that u are so mad about..im so sick of bush haters and shit...we dont need some pussy like john kerry or some other democrate times are hard we need a tough leader not some hippie pussy... the only thing i can complain about is gas prices but thats happening all over the world..

right on man!!

let em bitch and continue to go deeper into insanity.the left is rabid these days and the democratic party as we know it(JFK) and the other noble democrat leaders are long gone.they have been replaced with finatics trapped in the 1960's screaming and crying about everything.i read someone post something about the administration being involved in weather manipulation and causing the hurricane..

then they will be so suprised when they dont win elections and blame it on cheating and tinfoil hat conspiracy theories.sad.shameful.

[Funken Monken]

i've met the president,he cares more than you can even comprehend son.


You've been fooled then.

[amsterdam]

really?

and how would you know that.you cant even move past your own hatred to put forward anything of use.nice job genius.

you sound like Kanye West.lol

[BlazinHaze]

I think some people have straight-up smoked themselves retarded.

Amsterdam, it's so hard to find people who enjoy doing the things I do who shares the same political views as me... I think I love you. ;)

[amsterdam]

take comfort in the fact that we are the much bigger majority in this great country, and with all the whackos around on the left,we are getting bigger every election.

[papaw]

I was just wondering if any of the Bush supporters on this site will admit that he has any faults. I'm assuming that if you are posting here then there might be a slight chance that you like to smoke a little bit of the weed. So, how do you guys view Bush's extreme stance on the criminalization of grass? How do you feel about his staunch view that MJ should not even be legalized for medical use? I'm just wondering if you agree with EVERY SINGLE THING that he tells you that you need to believe. Peace.

[WalkaWalka]

So bush maby didn't cuase the hurricane but he sure fucked around when it was coming. And remember how they were already predicting 3.00 a gallon gas before the hurricane. Where not even fighting the terrorists were in a country that looks like the terrorists and why can't the terrorists assasanate bush.

[WalkaWalka]

No guys where not getting fucked around at all here are we..............

[amsterdam]

I was just wondering if any of the Bush supporters on this site will admit that he has any faults. I'm assuming that if you are posting here then there might be a slight chance that you like to smoke a little bit of the weed. So, how do you guys view Bush's extreme stance on the criminalization of grass? How do you feel about his staunch view that MJ should not even be legalized for medical use? I'm just wondering if you agree with EVERY SINGLE THING that he tells you that you need to believe. Peace.


of course,his border policy is complete bullshit.i also dont agree with his stance on abortion or gay marriage.

[WalkaWalka]

um bush won the last election becuase his pr people made it about boys kissing

[amsterdam]

guess America as a whole is not in favor of gay marriage at this point in history.

he won so big because the democratic party has lost its voice to the finatical left,wich are a tiny minority in this country.good luck with that.

[Euphoric]

what about that time bush stole his first election? its called corruption! another word you should get to be familiar with, amsterdam: guilible
:D

[Psycho4Bud]

um bush won the last election becuase his pr people made it about boys kissing

I remember that, it was actually quite touching! :D

[Stedric]

ahh the whole condescending "im older thus wiser routine" with the son comment.
Give him a break, Weirdo, its an easy way to dodge when you don't have an intelligent rebuttal.

[Psycho4Bud]

what about that time bush stole his first election? its called corruption! another word you should get to be familiar with, amsterdam: guilible
:D

BWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH :D

[Euphoric]

jpgs win
better luck next time, bmp dude!

[Psycho4Bud]

jpgs win
better luck next time, bmp dude!

Sorry dude! This better? The S.O.B. had an affair!!!



BWWWWWAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!! :D

[yeskamaster]

What is going on with the US population?

How could anyone vote for George W. Bush? This guy shouldn't be in the White House, he should be in prison. And now, with the fascists vindicated in the White House and in control of the House and the Senate (and soon the Supreme Court), the future is wide open. We will likely see more war, more death, and the complete pillaging of the US economy and our social system (social security, medicare, school budgets). We could see not only the outlawing of abortion, but the criminal prosecution of any woman who obtains an abortion. We could see the reinforcement of the Patriot Act, the scrapping of the Bill of Rights, and the full establishment of a police state. We could see a nuclear attack, ecological devastation, and the impoverishment of the working class.
:confused:

How can such a large percentage of the US population remain blinded by denial in the face of so much evidence which flatly contradicts their view of reality (and isn't such delusion a feature of psychosis)? When the rest of the world clearly sees and deplores what is happening, how is it that a majority of the US population-which prides itself on freedom of information and informed democracy-has not clue what is really happening? How is this delusion being maintained? Through a few simple techniques.

1. Promote a system of socialization in schools that trains people to respect and obey authorities and not to question the system.

2. Encourage and rely on a social system where anyone who dissents is viewed as deviant.

3. Rely on and encourage family dysfunction, so that people are reacting from their own inner wounds and seeking acceptance and forgiveness.

4. Reinforce the atomization of society so that people have fewer opportunities to communicate openly.

5. Keep people stressed, afraid and insecure, while reporting that the economy is improving using only data for the upper percentiles of the population.

6. Support reactionary thinking and religious fundamentalism. And encourage the projection of fears and personal faults onto the Other, making him / her / them the enemy.

7. Throw any residual dangerous information down the memory hole.

8. Rely on the media to underreport serious issues and leave out important details.

9. Rely on the media to present a frame of reality which places an honest assessment outside of the viewer's comfort zone.

10. Count on the complicity and compromises of your opponent, while utilizing these complicities and compromises to present yourself as the honest candidate.

11. Repeated denial of culpability on major issues which could result in criminal charges (i.e. WMD, prisoner torture, 9-11 complicity, the Plame investigation).

12. Appeal to emotions using keywords and images; subconscious suggestion through staged media events.

13. Control the terms of conversation and debate using verbal framing. neurolinguistic programming (NLP).

14. Focus on minor, sensationalized issues.

[amsterdam]

what about that time bush stole his first election? its called corruption! another word you should get to be familiar with, amsterdam: guilible
:D

its called upholding the florida constitution jackass,wich showed that al gore recounting the votes 4 times(wich he lost EVERY TIME) was..................unconstitutional!!get your facts right and stop quoting things you know nothing about,it makes you look stupid. :rolleyes:

[Psycho4Bud]

its called upholding the florida constitution jackass,wich showed that al gore recounting the votes 4 times(wich he lost EVERY TIME) was..................unconstitutional!!get your facts right and stop quoting things you know nothing about,it makes you look stupid. :rolleyes:

Only recounted 4 times!!! Damn, it's a crying shame he couldn't have lost 5 times!!!

BWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! :D

[Euphoric]

amsterdam walks into a voting booth. "Hmm, lets see...how should i vote..." he scratches his head and reveiws his choices while adjusting his duct taped buddy holly glasses. he looks at one peice of paper that says "THROW ME IN JAIL AND OPRESS FREEDOM"
amsterdam nods his head. "Yess..this sounds good! Papa always said whats good for corporate america is good for me!"
Amsterdam casts his vote, convinced he's not a tard and tips his hat to Torog on his way out. "Say, ever get over your childhood issues ol guy?"
Torog begins to cry and quickly runs to cast his vote to throw himself in jail too.

WEEE GOOD JOB GUYS! Next time try not fucking up though :)

[Anousenka]

I actually did some campaign work locally for Bush last election. I'm sick of hearing the same fucking complaints from people opposed to what the government does. If there wasn't so much negativity toward the US gov't by Americans, then I believe that a lot of non-Americans would hate Bush a little less. I think in this situation you should support the decisions your president makes because it is for the benefit of the country that we have a leader who appears strong. I know a lot of people in the marines and I do hate that their lives are risked everyday, but at the same time I am so proud to know such patriotic and courageous people. And I know there are probably a lot of liberals/democrats/Bush-haters/anti-Americans looking at this thread, and y'all can waste your words and try to prove me wrong, but I will never change my opinions.


WHAT are you even doing here? I can't believe there are conservative pot smokers! That's like as big a contradiction as bush and freedom. It just baffles the mind at how brainwashed you are even though you smoke weed. I'm sorry, but it just makes me sick to my stomach lol! How can you possibly even begin to agree with republican shit?! It's evil and it HAS YOU!!!

[WalkaWalka]

Well Bush may or may not of Stole the Florida election it was too close for any ones comfort

[Odd Ball]

good point.. if you look closley ..the left and right are really no differant ..except for a couple issue's [ guns abortion ect.ect] the whole left right thing in the US is to keep us distracted from gov't and big biz turning our once great and free country in to some orwellian nightmare ....if we do not learn to put our differances aside and work togeather against big gov't/ biz/organized crime ..they will surely divide and conquer what's left of this country....
I couldn't agree more! I am so sick of republican, democrat, conservative, liberal-it's all a bunch of bullshit, it's smoke and mirrors. It seems like when someone puts themselves in a political category they just become a chess piece for the government. They become an unknowing player in the shadow government's game of destroy America. I hope more people will wake up to the reality of whats REALLY going on in this country soon! It's not about republicans vs. democrats, it's about the government playing us all against each other so they can achieve their agendas!

[Odd Ball]

Doesn't anyone find it interesting how the tables have turned? When Clinton was president, I think I recall it being the right wingers that were the paranoid conspiracy theoriests, they were saying the same kind of things that the left wingers are saying now about the government stepping all over the consitution and us being in danger of losing our freedoms, etc. Now that we have a republican for president it's the other way around, the left is now being accused of being paranoid conspiracy theorists! Well I was paranoid back then and I'm still paranoid now! It doesn't matter who's president or which political party appears to be popular or running show, the fact is it was and still is the shadow government that is controlling things behind the curtain!

[bhallg2k]

I actually did some campaign work locally for Bush last election. I'm sick of hearing the same fucking complaints from people opposed to what the government does. If there wasn't so much negativity toward the US gov't by Americans, then I believe that a lot of non-Americans would hate Bush a little less. I think in this situation you should support the decisions your president makes because it is for the benefit of the country that we have a leader who appears strong. I know a lot of people in the marines and I do hate that their lives are risked everyday, but at the same time I am so proud to know such patriotic and courageous people. And I know there are probably a lot of liberals/democrats/Bush-haters/anti-Americans looking at this thread, and y'all can waste your words and try to prove me wrong, but I will never change my opinions.

It was Thomas Jefferson who said, "Dissidence is the highest form of patriotism."

And the fact that you will never change your opinions is what's wrong with this country. In a nutshell, that's really it. Those, like you, who aren't open-minded enough to allow facts to influence their opinions are running this country into the ground.

Times change.

And to answer your other question about who could better run this country. Well...

Colin Powell
John McCain
Wes Clark
Robert Kennedy, Jr.
Hell, Bill Clinton could do it again
A two-year-old crack baby
My dog, Skippy

[beachguy in thongs]

And the fact that you will never change your opinions is what's wrong with this country.

Nothing is wrong with this country. The world is wrong for spinning counter-clockwise.

[Odd Ball]

It was Thomas Jefferson who said, "Dissidence is the highest form of patriotism."

And the fact that you will never change your opinions is what's wrong with this country. In a nutshell, that's really it. Those, like you, who aren't open-minded enough to allow facts to influence their opinions are running this country into the ground.

Times change.

And to answer your other question about who could better run this country. Well...

Colin Powell
John McCain
Wes Clark
Robert Kennedy, Jr.
Hell, Bill Clinton could do it again
A two-year-old crack baby
My dog, Skippy
You forgot a box of tic-tacs, lol

[WalkaWalka]

Goverment officials have used the "right to secrecy" 12 times since the war on terror started . Officials only used the right to sercrecy 4 times throughout the cold war

[amsterdam]

It was Thomas Jefferson who said, "Dissidence is the highest form of patriotism."

And the fact that you will never change your opinions is what's wrong with this country. In a nutshell, that's really it. Those, like you, who aren't open-minded enough to allow facts to influence their opinions are running this country into the ground.

Times change.

And to answer your other question about who could better run this country. Well...

Colin Powell
John McCain
Wes Clark
Robert Kennedy, Jr.
Hell, Bill Clinton could do it again
A two-year-old crack baby
My dog, Skippy



hahahah,wes clark didnt even get his own parties nomination jackass,not to mention the crappy way he handled Bosnia.get real.

Kennedy Jr. is a national joke now after he opened his mouth a week ago.really,,,,a joke.

clinton sat on his ass while we were attacked four times over the course of 8 years,including running like a bitch in Somalia.then bombing Bosnia while he was impeached for lying before congress on national television.this one is just funny.

[Bonez87x]

hahahah,wes clark didnt even get his own parties nomination jackass,not to mention the crappy way he handled Bosnia.get real.

Kennedy Jr. is a national joke now after he opened his mouth a week ago.really,,,,a joke.

clinton sat on his ass while we were attacked four times over the course of 8 years,including running like a bitch in Somalia.then bombing Bosnia while he was impeached for lying before congress on national television.this one is just funny.

And yet, Bush sat on his ass when we were attacked 4 times in one day (9/11/01) [4 planes]

Heres a thought... Why do I support this guy, what does he do for me?

Did I vote for him? Or did I vote for the guy who actually DOES vote for him? Wait, it was the supreme court?

I got to research the county.. but an Ohio district there were over 2,000 votes in a county that has a little over 600 regestered voters.

I didn't like Kerry, I don't like Bush. But recently, going to New Orleans, and shaking hands of Fire fighters and rescue workers but wouldn't talk to the people of N.O., only flew over it. *sad, sad..*

I wonder, Democrats lie about sex.. and Republicans lie about 'everything'.

I dont HATE Bush, I dont HATE Clinton, but I do HATE what certain actions were done. Though, as a bumper sticker said I chuckled about; "Clinton lied, Hillary cried; Bush lied, Millions died. "

Questions, how does an Arab country, Saudi Arabia, that contains a large amount of Al Qaeda, be our friend while, Iraq, who was under a dictatorship, that contained little Al Qaeda members (posed a threat to Saddam), be a threat?

Heres one.. Bush said he wants Osama, dead or alive, over 1,000+ days ago, yet.. recently he said he doesn't spend that much time on it any more. *shakes head* 'I dunno, but personally, I don't agree with that.'

ok, I lied, I do hate Bush. I don't agree with him in any way.

Patriot act: People are STILL in jail from over a year ago, who havent been CHARGED yet. So much for the American way, the Bill of Rights, speedy trial, eh?

[1234abcd]

Bush is an asshole, why the fuck is he blowing up iraq when Osama is in afganistan? He should be after that asshole first....but he did visit NO 3 times already but I agree, everything was too delayed and it was a very poor response, but now I believe our government, as powerful as it is, will get everything back on track with our billions of aid coming to the Southeast devistated regions

[1234abcd]

Yes..and the patriot act is kinda fucked, but what can you do, we need these fucking terrorist out of our country and our constitution wasn't doing it, so this way , we can track terrorist, no prob...but it also is a big problem for personal freedoms, etc, and in some ways violates the constitution, but I think I am for the patriot act, as they have to have some lead on you.....they wont just search and sieze ..unless they have a lead

[1234abcd]

FUCK TERRORISM

[amsterdam]

And yet, Bush sat on his ass when we were attacked 4 times in one day (9/11/01) [4 planes]

Heres a thought... Why do I support this guy, what does he do for me?

Did I vote for him? Or did I vote for the guy who actually DOES vote for him? Wait, it was the supreme court?

I got to research the county.. but an Ohio district there were over 2,000 votes in a county that has a little over 600 regestered voters.

I didn't like Kerry, I don't like Bush. But recently, going to New Orleans, and shaking hands of Fire fighters and rescue workers but wouldn't talk to the people of N.O., only flew over it. *sad, sad..*

I wonder, Democrats lie about sex.. and Republicans lie about 'everything'.

I dont HATE Bush, I dont HATE Clinton, but I do HATE what certain actions were done. Though, as a bumper sticker said I chuckled about; "Clinton lied, Hillary cried; Bush lied, Millions died. "

Questions, how does an Arab country, Saudi Arabia, that contains a large amount of Al Qaeda, be our friend while, Iraq, who was under a dictatorship, that contained little Al Qaeda members (posed a threat to Saddam), be a threat?

Heres one.. Bush said he wants Osama, dead or alive, over 1,000+ days ago, yet.. recently he said he doesn't spend that much time on it any more. *shakes head* 'I dunno, but personally, I don't agree with that.'

ok, I lied, I do hate Bush. I don't agree with him in any way.

Patriot act: People are STILL in jail from over a year ago, who havent been CHARGED yet. So much for the American way, the Bill of Rights, speedy trial, eh?


and we have removed two crazed regimes in afghanisten and iraq in less than 5 years.

[Bonez87x]

"Crazed Regimes" A perverse dictator whose two sons had fetishes with their countries women and that made them a threat to us for us to invade and remove them. *tisk*tisk

[amsterdam]

and paid the families of suicide bombers in Palestine,allowed Zarqawi a home after being shot in afghanistan,we arrested the mastermind of the achilles lauro hijacking also in downtown baghdad?tsk...tsk..no relation to terrorism?interesting.good riddance.

get informed.

[Bonez87x]

Ah, I said a "threat to us"... not a threat to any one else ;)

[amsterdam]

exactly how is the funding of radical wahabbist schools,suicide bombers,not a threat?

"we will confront regimes that support terrorism"

[WalkaWalka]

i wish our terrorists were better at there job so they could put a large caliber projectile thourgh bush's head so i dont have to

[Frickr]

I feel if you have enough time to sit on your ass, and complain about what you think is going wrong, and wait around for the next guy to come and do it for you, why dont you take your time and engergy and invest it into a worthwhile agument, an argument that will carry over to the whitehouse, one that isnt just "online" with yoru buddy's, now i do like this message board, but i feel that its too full of a bunch of lazy ass whining brats. Now i, being 17, cant vote, cant do much in the legal world, so yes when it comes time for me, i will stand up for my views, my ideas, and i will hope that if you seriously think something is wrong with our government, than you will get off the fucking computer, and start getting after the people in Washington. I think we have a great country, going through history, we have always had something against us, slavory, the restricting of the native americans, Most of all RACISM all kinds of prohibation.. ect. The only way things get changed, is if people stand up, and fight for what they bleive in, BE THE MARTIN LUTHER KINGS! THE MALCOM X'S, THE ABRAHAM LINCOLNS. Challenge the views of people, before you complain to your friend. complaining doesnt get you a damn thing other then people getting sick and tired of the shit you are saying. Challenge the thoughts of people, Express your views on the subject, Get people to understand, and blieve on whats going on, dont go on lies, dont go on anything but what you know. We are over in Iraq for a reason, and that reason, is to establish a firm solid country, so that the oil we purchas from them is cheaper, yeah we pay now, but in the future once things settle down, peace is found, things will be better in a whole. Start the revolution, make the government relaize whats going on, so i beleive, that i day where every pothead/stoner/toker/or anyone that blieves that marijuana should be legal, stand up, smoke openly, and fight the system, Marches, parades, Sitdown protests, anything you can think of, thats nonviolent, to get the message accrost. Violences doesnt do anything other then piss people off, so if you get arrested that day, so be it, take it and sit in jail,if all goes well, they will be too overcrowded, where they will have to do soemthing. the message will be sent acrost. Let everyone be the Rosa Parks, and not give up your pot smoking right to the government. So if your with me. Lets hear it, A day where we all protest, Starting April, 20th 2006, Going till whenever the bill passes. Spread the word, Let everyone know, the more people hear about this, the more it will impact the government. Thoughts be with you, and joints be free for all!

[CGB1013]

<~Voted for Bush, Bush isnt ruining this country...Liberal Democrats are

This is the problem wtih America. People like you spend more time passing the blame around instead of actually doing something to help. Especially politicians.

[darkside]

im not going to take sides, but give the facts about what this administration has done. When Clinton left office, we had the largest budget surplus in history. Now
we have the largest debt in history. The reasoning to go to war in iraq was wmds
-there were no wmds. Colin Powell admitted that taking the bad intel to the un was his worst mistake. Why doesnt the rest of the administration admit it? Iraq was not a threat before the war, but now it is a hotbed for al qaeda recruiting and terrorist activity. There were less terrorists before the "war on terror." Thousands of soldiers and innocent people have lost their lives in this false and futile war. The administration is against possibly life saving stem cell research. It is now possible for the government to search and seize without a warrant and to inprison without charge for things as rediculous as posting on this website or creating an anti bush poster- read that post. They have shat on the bill of rights and the good name of America. I am not democrat or republican, i just hate corrupt administrations. This one is. Say what you will- the facts dont lie!

[CocaCola]

Americans aren't free. At least the others have their values.

[cheenyc13]

Howdy Tholiak,

That's a big 10-4...I think it's time for WalkaWalka,to have some cookies and milk...lol...

Have a good one !

Yeah man i was 10 blocks from the wtc on 9/11 .
i never been much of a good ol boy but i say kill,em all and i dont give a shit who sorts them out

[Breukelen advocaat]

Yeah man i was 10 blocks from the wtc on 9/11 .
i never been much of a good ol boy but i say kill,em all and i dont give a shit who sorts them out

I was down there too.

[cheenyc13]

I was down there too.

Shit something you'll never forget. I think it made a huge impact on the world
but if you live and or grow up in new york it was just a wired time.
I don't think any one could understand

[WalkaWalka]

but um realy bush is a bad president becuase living around here ive seen stuff getting shittier and shittier my town dosen't have store no more the poor farmers keep on getting poor and the big farms keep getting larger and larger most poor people work full shifts around here. Bush Dosen't give a shit about you. And the fasciest elements in this country are out for blood.

[Freshy]

damn... it's not as much a republican problem as a "fundamentalist" problem. I believe that God would have no problem with vaporizing marijuana. But there Bush goes, i guess he is the only person that knows what God wants done. I would have to say... i hate Utah (first anti-MJ laws) and I hate Bush's "fundamentalism" or theocracy... Iran is a theocracy and they just blow each other (and us) up... we need somebody like Bill... i'm republican, but dang, he did a good job. good economy, low taxes, everything was good with Bill and he "got some" on the side... what a player...

Is there any hope as public education gets worse, so called republicans have taken over the government, we are arresting canadians, i can see why everybody hates us... There needs to be a revolution or something. uh oh... now i'm gonna get arrested because of the Patriot Act because i might do something bad...

[hempity]

I actually did some campaign work locally for Bush last election. I'm sick of hearing the same fucking complaints from people opposed to what the government does. If there wasn't so much negativity toward the US gov't by Americans, then I believe that a lot of non-Americans would hate Bush a little less. I think in this situation you should support the decisions your president makes because it is for the benefit of the country that we have a leader who appears strong. I know a lot of people in the marines and I do hate that their lives are risked everyday, but at the same time I am so proud to know such patriotic and courageous people. And I know there are probably a lot of liberals/democrats/Bush-haters/anti-Americans looking at this thread, and y'all can waste your words and try to prove me wrong, but I will never change my opinions.



the negativity is because people are sick too. they are sick because you kill for what you want, it doesn't matter who is in the white house(maybe you should try a native or black person) you have been killing for what you want since you got here. your government gave smallpox laden blankets to the people in winter, it is the same government.
bush is a moron controlled by big business, he has taken the price of oil from 15 dollars a barrel to over 60 dollars a barrel in less than 5 years, he is a liar and despot, your whole government is despotic and evil. if you want to support that, then you will die in ignorance and shame when you find out what your government has done and is doing. the blood of martyrs and saints covers your country, from sea to shinning sea.
"patriotism is the virtue of the violent" O.W.

[hempity]

I feel if you have enough time to sit on your ass, and complain about what you think is going wrong, and wait around for the next guy to come and do it for you, why dont you take your time and engergy and invest it into a worthwhile agument, an argument that will carry over to the whitehouse, one that isnt just "online" with yoru buddy's, now i do like this message board, but i feel that its too full of a bunch of lazy ass whining brats. Now i, being 17, cant vote, cant do much in the legal world, so yes when it comes time for me, i will stand up for my views, my ideas, and i will hope that if you seriously think something is wrong with our government, than you will get off the fucking computer, and start getting after the people in Washington. I think we have a great country, going through history, we have always had something against us, slavory, the restricting of the native americans, Most of all RACISM all kinds of prohibation.. ect. The only way things get changed, is if people stand up, and fight for what they bleive in, BE THE MARTIN LUTHER KINGS! THE MALCOM X'S, THE ABRAHAM LINCOLNS. Challenge the views of people, before you complain to your friend. complaining doesnt get you a damn thing other then people getting sick and tired of the shit you are saying. Challenge the thoughts of people, Express your views on the subject, Get people to understand, and blieve on whats going on, dont go on lies, dont go on anything but what you know. We are over in Iraq for a reason, and that reason, is to establish a firm solid country, so that the oil we purchas from them is cheaper, yeah we pay now, but in the future once things settle down, peace is found, things will be better in a whole. Start the revolution, make the government relaize whats going on, so i beleive, that i day where every pothead/stoner/toker/or anyone that blieves that marijuana should be legal, stand up, smoke openly, and fight the system, Marches, parades, Sitdown protests, anything you can think of, thats nonviolent, to get the message accrost. Violences doesnt do anything other then piss people off, so if you get arrested that day, so be it, take it and sit in jail,if all goes well, they will be too overcrowded, where they will have to do soemthing. the message will be sent acrost. Let everyone be the Rosa Parks, and not give up your pot smoking right to the government. So if your with me. Lets hear it, A day where we all protest, Starting April, 20th 2006, Going till whenever the bill passes. Spread the word, Let everyone know, the more people hear about this, the more it will impact the government. Thoughts be with you, and joints be free for all!

good post, a little idealistic but hell you are young and that is great, a lot of my friends are young and they do just fine. i am old, so close to dead, it rides my shoulder and whispers in my ear to enjoy what is here now. in my life i have done all i could think of to open eyes to the truth as i saw it. i have protested atomic power and the war in vietnam and received scars from night-sticks and fists, since i was 16 i have grown cannabis and now i show others how to grow naturally. i have protested and fought the government all my life, i called together all my friends and started the CCC in '98, now i am old my heart is weak, and can only sit, write and rail, as others jump the wall and stand up.
stand up for something, or you will fall for everything.

hempity

[beachguy in thongs]

Live With Bush!!! We only have a couple of years left.

edit: Of Bush. George Bush. Unless Sr. gives it another run.

[NeoBudd]

:rolleyes: This type of post is all over the various forums on the web. The thing I can never understand in the midst of the mud slinging is why no one ever embraces our differences and diversity. Yes, our Gov't is imperfect and corrupt, but can anyone show me one that is not? A governmental body is not in place to coddle the people it governs, it is in place to make sure it stays in place, period.

Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, whatever; you are still just a cog in the wheel. I can hear the indignant gasps already, so let me ask you this: How many of you have armed yourself and refused to pay taxes? After all, isn't that what started the revolution that made this country?

[WalkaWalka]

well the goverment needs to remember it dosen't grant freedoms but aknowledges them.
Also the people shouldn't fear the goverment the goverment should fear the people