HELP! How the fuck do I handle this?!

[Killa.Kali]

Im using fake names here just for safety

Ok so my buddy Joe is like 32 and hes been kickin it with me for like 9 months now, he lives with his friend next door to me. Hes one of those guys who blabs on and on and on and on and on about how hes more experienced blah blah blah whatever.

This problem with him is just fucking weird and its been pissing me off since i met him. He thinks cuz hes been tweakin longer than me hes "better" at it (ie. not burning the dope, not blacking the pipe, etc.) but honestly HES FUCKING STUPID!!! He burns the fuck out of the dope and I cant stand tweakin with him or using his pipes its fuckin disgusting.

So today as usual he shows up with his black crispy burnt shit pipe wanting to tweak. After he fucking flipped out for a few minutes I just said FUCK IT!!!!!!! and packed my TINY TINY TINY bowl (which i was saving for later) and melt it up for him IN MY PIPE!!! So i pass it to him and hes fucking it up hard, hes got the flame on my pipe makin it look like charcoal, burning it, and stinking up my room something aweful. So I try to tell him as usual, "dude come on stop fuckin burning it, I MEAN SERIOUSLY DUDE I just gave you my only bowl out of courtesy" and he trips out on his bullshit saying "fuck you bro I been doin this since before you were born" I let it go cuz I hate fighting.

I just want to know how im supposed to actually talk to him and just talk some damn sense into the guy. He wont listen to me cuz im younger i guess but ive never met anyone who didnt fucking hate the way he tweaks (which is why no one tweaks with him) he denys it but whatever, how i do i talk to the guy? I try to be respectful to my elders but DDDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMNNNNN!!! sometimes kids are just plain smarter :D what would you do? take in consideration hes a 'tradionalist' so he thinks age = smarts lol

[flamingskullballs]

i say it doesnt matter how you do it as long as your not in denile of doing whatever you do...

people who have been smoking/tripping/tweaking longer tend to think theyre top shit...

drink some extra-strength cough, thatll help, lol

[DaBuh]

y not just find some other peeps to smoke with?

[ADaisyChain]

Next time, before you share your methamphetamines with him, say this: "Alright, now I understand your experience with tweak outdoes mine by many years. I grip that concept. BUT, this is MY stuff, so if you're going to smoke it with me, you have to smoke it MY way. Do like I do. If you don't, we can smoke your meth and we'll smoke it however you want." -show him-

[tylerkane]

Hes punking the shit out of you, busta
What you expect from a fucking dead beat ice head?
Have fun doing that shit, btw.

[andruejaysin]

Right, he's smoking it that way on purpose to get the big share. I guess you could start slamming it, turn him on to the needle, then you'd be the one with more experience. Or find new friends. Or both.

[Killa.Kali]

Lol thx for the feedback peepz :cool:

Tyler- we get it for free, as long as we bring business to our connect. We get an 8ball every week as long as we make his deliveries etc. so hes not really punking me for anything (neither of us are losing money) its only that hes so fucking annoying at times, its extremely strange, hes actually more annoying when hes high (on weed) than he is when hes tweaked.

Andrue- Im scared shitless of needles :confused: I'm in school to be a nurse and I give and recieve injections everyday but I cant stand them lol If i turned him to the needle hed go straight to heroin cuz its avaliable to him anytime and I aint about to be-friend ANY heroin addict, i cant stand them. Theres only one upside to having a heroin addict as a friend - you get to watch them twitch all over like a fish out of water :D well at least its entertaining to me :D

I've somewhat de-escalated the situation, he was on valiums (he didnt tell me at the time) the past 2 weeks so hes been goin kinda fuckin nuts lol

[andruejaysin]

That was a smart ass answer, I wouldn't want to see anyone start shooting. Already seen it to many times.

[ontariogrower]

Lol thx for the feedback peepz :cool:

Tyler- we get it for free, as long as we bring business to our connect. We get an 8ball every week as long as we make his deliveries etc. so hes not really punking me for anything (neither of us are losing money) its only that hes so fucking annoying at times, its extremely strange, hes actually more annoying when hes high (on weed) than he is when hes tweaked.

Andrue- Im scared shitless of needles :confused: I'm in school to be a nurse and I give and recieve injections everyday but I cant stand them lol If i turned him to the needle hed go straight to heroin cuz its avaliable to him anytime and I aint about to be-friend ANY heroin addict, i cant stand them. Theres only one upside to having a heroin addict as a friend - you get to watch them twitch all over like a fish out of water :D well at least its entertaining to me :D

I've somewhat de-escalated the situation, he was on valiums (he didnt tell me at the time) the past 2 weeks so hes been goin kinda fuckin nuts lol


Hmmm so you'll be an ice head but you won't socialize with heroin addicts? That makes a whole lot of sense. Heroin is nowhere near as bad as methamphetamine. Heroin addicts can lead normal lives if they aren't constantly searching for heroin. Meth addicts, on the other hand, can't lead a very normal life while maintained on methamphetamine. Meth kills people alot faster than heroin or cocaine. If you are getting an 8 ball of crystal meth every week, you have a serious fucking problem and you aren't really in any position to bash junkies. You really need help. I've been down the meth road and it's not very nice. When you end up robbing houses and stabbing people for money to buy drugs you will probably not think it's so cool.

Heroin can actually be used safely for someones entire life. If it was regulated and junkies could get heroin from their pharmacy they could start to lead a regular life and they could be as productive, or more productive than their non-druggy peers. Heroin users don't have a steady supply of drugs because they can't afford to pay the drug dealer outrageous amounts of money, so they end up stealing or selling drugs to buy drugs and they end up blowing all their money on a fix and they do it all at once and end up sick 4-6 hours later and have to start saving up all over again. Heroin is not expensive to make and they could buy their heroin from the government for way less than what dealers sell it for so they wouldnt have the ups and downs of addiction. They would be able to take moderate doses all day long to keep themselves from being sick as hell and it would keep their body full of the drug and keep them happy so they wouldnt have to go around robbing their own family and everyone else for money.

Try maintaining yourself on crystal meth, (pharmaceutical or illegal) and see what happens to you! You'll be dead fast. And if you don't end up dead from a heart attack or stroke, you will probably be locked up and put in a mental institution for your whole life. Get off that shit. And stop selling it to people. You can't do that to people. It's not right. Weed is another thing. But meth? Come on, you obviously dont give a shit about anyone but yourself.

[Killa.Kali]

I couldnt care less what i SELL to people, what i DO with my body and WHO I socialize with is a different story.

- its your choice to do drugs and/or buy them, so its your reponsiblity to regulate what you do, im merely a means of supplying it, im doing no more harm to the world than any other person/company that sells a product

- I know many heroin addicts and they are ALL scumbags, NO EXCEPTION TO THE RULE!!! I do know one functional heroin addict, he lives a normal life, has a job, and supports himself BUT hes still a total fucking DICK!!! heroin is less harmful than meth? Ok buddy whatever you say :) no doubt they are both TERRIBLE for your body and fuck with your mind in a big way but neither is 'better' for you.

- You can say what you want about my 'caring for others' but you dont know me in ANY way at all, so your opinion doesnt hold much validity to me.

- I have maintained a steady decrease in meth over the past few years, a year ago I was going through an 8th a day, I have not spent more then $20 a day since the beggining of this year.

- Do us a favor and do some research on the withdrawl of meth and heroin. Do you know what happens when a heroin addict goes for a day without his fix? They get physically sick, not wanting more and being mad about it, actually vomiting and losing control of their bodily functions (aka shitting their pants). If I cant get my meth I stress a bit, I start being edgy and mean but I have never puked, never felt sick, and never shit my pants. If you go from using large amounts of heroin everyday and suddenly stop YOU CAN DIE!!! not true with meth...

[A Foo Says]

You just acknowledged that meth is terrible for your body, why do a 8ball every week? Get off that shit. Tell me I don't know anything and I have no right to tell you what to do, but you shouldn't do it. =/

[Killa.Kali]

I never said meth was good for you :confused:
I never said I should do it :confused:
I never said you didnt know anything...infact I have never seen your name period lol :confused:

wtf...I r confused

[NightProwler]

sid vicious did heroin like everyday, then he went to jail for 4 months were he couldn't get any heroin, and when he came out of jail, his own fucking mother gave him pure heroin and he injected it and died.

[Killa.Kali]

Jail where you cant get heroin? Heroin and pot are the two most common drugs in jail besides tobacco. but still thats a fuckin insane way to go out :D

[Nullific]

He isn't bullshitting you, heroin is seriously safer physically than methamphetamine. Actually, diamorphine isn't damaging to the body at all.

Research seems to show it isn't a very hard habit to kick either.

In fact, a sizeable percentage of heroin users consume only occasionally, without becomming heavy users (Zinber 1979), and measurable withdrawal symptoms from opioids rarely occur until after serveral weeks of regular administration (Jaffee 1991: 67).

Further evidence that addiction is far less important than typical portrayals come from the experience of returning vietnam veterans. Robins, Davis, and Nurco (1974) report interviews of veterans eight to twelve months after their return from vietnam. They find that most addicted veterans gave up their narcotic use voluntarily before departure or after a short, forced treatment period at departure. In subsequent work, Robins et al. (1980) find that although most veterans had access to cheap heroin in vietnam, only about 35 percent tried it and only about 19% became addicted. They also conclude that heroin use does not consistently lead to daily use and addiction, that addiction frequently ceases without treatment, that maintaining recovery from heroin addiction does not require abstention, and that the reason for high levels of social disability among heroin users is likely attributed to characteristics of the users rather than to heroin users per say.

[Edgar]

If you go from using large amounts of heroin everyday and suddenly stop YOU CAN DIE!!!

Ah, yet another drug myth, how refreshing.

Heroin withdrawal does NOT kill unless that person was already very ill.

Even anti drug websites can confirm this fact.

[Killa.Kali]

Ok...tell that to my best friend Danny...oh wait...nevermind hes dead...rofl umm not a myth, it depends on the person ;) my buddy was addicted to heroin for 7 years of his life, he was put in a mental hospital, he went to sleep his first night there and never woke up.

[Edgar]

Was he in poor health?

[MeatRulz]

omg!!!! i fuckin hate ppl that think there the best and wanna "teach me" things i already know. pissis me off

[Nullific]

Was he a frequent user of any other drugs? Notably alcohol, barbiturates or benzodiazepines as these drugs do cause life threatening withdrawals. You mention he went to sleep, how? Insomnia is a symptom of heroin withdrawal.

Search anywhere, you'll find that heroin withdrawals alone don't kill.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=heroin+withdrawal+life+threatening&btnG=Search

[Killa.Kali]

omg!!!! i fuckin hate ppl that think there the best and wanna "teach me" things i already know. pissis me off


As in....me? or someone else?



Edgar, not that I'm aware of but he was using heroin so how healthy could he be ya know?

Nullific, he wasnt drinking or using other drugs (that im aware of) and they gave him that stuff they call 'booty juice' in the mental inst. It's some kind of sedative they give ya when your actin crazy or violent, calms me the fuck down instantly :confused: I would assume thats why he went to sleep, but I wasnt there so I dont know that he was actually sleeping.

[andruejaysin]

Withdrawls from opiates won't kill you, but they'll make you wish they would. In my experience mental institutions do no give you anything called "booty juice" Some of the women there might...

[Killa.Kali]

thats not the name for it, thats what the patients call it silly :p

ps. its cuz they shoot it in your ass

[andruejaysin]

Thorazine?

[XxAcidStudio]

that would be my guess andruejaysin

[JackNoble]

I'm told I hotbox. It's embarrassing. =(

[Articles]

smoke with yourself. tell him you dont like weed and are getting off.

[Killa.Kali]

I'm told I hotbox. It's embarrassing. =(

You mean where your smoking a joint/cigarette so fast and hard that the cherry gets too big and too hot? just trying to clarify, stoner lingo differs from place to place :cool: if thats the case take whatever your smoking and stick it the cherry on their forehead and tell em to shut the fuck up :D

[Nullific]

I just think I should clarify for some people out there...Killa's not talking about smoking pot with someone, its glass, ice, crystal, methamphetamine.

[Killa.Kali]

...tweak, shard, rocks, tina, puddles, white, tiger piss, rocket fuel, creedo, shit, shizzy, shizzy izzy, Krissie...cant remember anymore >.>

PS. some people use Ice as slang for any form of meth but its meant to be used for the Pure, clean, un-cut, product.

[Nullific]

Yeah really depends on location, someone offered me some 'white' today which up hear in the North East will almost always mean coke. Rock is also crack here. The meth "epidemic" hasn't "hit" us yet, we like our coke and heroin too much up here. Still they're keeping the pseudoephedrine behind the counter.

Tweak is probably a more universal meth reference, can't believe I left that one out.