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beachguy in thongs
08-18-2005, 06:42 PM
Well, all of you chemists, biologists, and psychics out there?

beachguy in thongs
08-18-2005, 10:57 PM
Really, I want to know if my cat is reaping the benefits of pot-smoke, also.

beachguy in thongs
08-21-2005, 08:38 PM
This thread has gotten too many views with no answer. At least, do me a favor and check out melatonin.com ; Also, I found this on the web.
http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread/t-348664.html
Check out his references.

Nullific
08-23-2005, 12:59 AM
Are you and the cat simply in the same room while you're smoking or are you physically blowing the smoke in its face? I doubt the former would have any effect though the later may, as your cat could be breathing in THC-rich smoke. I have also heard that such animals can absorb the actives through their ears since the skin there is so thin and rich in blood vessels.

beachguy in thongs
08-23-2005, 11:54 PM
Thanks, Null from Masshole, sometimes I blow it directly at her but other times I know she's getting it because I live in a small apartment. I am wondering if anyone can prove anything scientifically on second-hand marijuana smoke. I like facts, not heresy. Cat's have the cutest ears, I just want to eat them, but I trust you on that fact.

zenkat
08-27-2005, 07:11 AM
Hey hey, It's SERATONIN rather than Melatonin. If you have depression, its more important to have the right Seratonin levels. Melatonin effects hormones. There are available supplements that have had noticable benefits..but I dont think Marijuana would have a huge impact. Even sunlight has a positive impact!
Seratonin on the other hand is ESSENTIAL. Marijuana in ANY form can effect this level significantly. Its the happy drug. Take weed in moderation, and you should be able to have clean nerotransmitters. Detox is a good idea. That why our heads are so sorted when we dont smoke copious amounts.
Hope this helps. I posted 'Anatomy and Physiology...in my terms' in the medical section. Have a read if you like.

beachguy in thongs
08-27-2005, 03:01 PM
Hey hey, It's SERATONIN rather than Melatonin. If you have depression, its more important to have the right Seratonin levels. Melatonin effects hormones. There are available supplements that have had noticable benefits..but I dont think Marijuana would have a huge impact. Even sunlight has a positive impact!
Seratonin on the other hand is ESSENTIAL. Marijuana in ANY form can effect this level significantly. Its the happy drug. Take weed in moderation, and you should be able to have clean nerotransmitters. Detox is a good idea. That why our heads are so sorted when we dont smoke copious amounts.
Hope this helps. I posted 'Anatomy and Physiology...in my terms' in the medical section. Have a read if you like.

Look up your research again, buddy, melatonin is created through seratonin which is created by the pineal in your brain through an amino acid (both naturally and through foods we eat) called 5-HydroxyTryptophan which is created through Tryptophan.

beachguy in thongs
08-27-2005, 03:02 PM
A common mistake made nowadays, between Melanin and Melatonin.

beachguy in thongs
08-27-2005, 03:04 PM
Just in case, you never went to Melatonin.com, it affects everything from your eye to your bloodstream to your stomach to prevention of cancer and heart disease.

zenkat
08-28-2005, 12:56 AM
Exactly....So if we cannot create Seratonin in the first place, how is the derivative Melatonin supposed to be processed - if it isnt present ? A chemical process wont start without the right molecules to begin with. No Seratonin-No Melanonin.

beachguy in thongs
08-28-2005, 03:30 AM
Through food or pot. I know Melatonin levels are increased but I didn't hear anything about the production of Seratonin. That's the process that occurs through foods, I don't know the exact process through Marijuana, but I didn't hear that it raises Seratonin levels.

beachguy in thongs
08-28-2005, 03:37 AM
I heard Marijuana lowers Seratonin levels.

zenkat
08-28-2005, 04:15 AM
It inhibits the production of Seritonin and Melanonin or whatever process necessary to naturally release.
So you can say that the Seratonin level can be inhibited/lowered.
Bit complicated, but as much as we all love to smoke, we know its not the best for us.

screwedcork
08-28-2005, 05:00 AM
Melatonin is the hormone that makes you tired. You can use it to get your sleep schedule back on track.

beachguy in thongs
08-28-2005, 12:07 PM
It inhibits the production of Seritonin and Melanonin or whatever process necessary to naturally release.

In 1986, Italian researchers, on human test subjects, found that it does not inhibit Melatonin production but increases it 4,000%.

Melatonin does a lot more than help you sleep. People have been taking it before bed for a lot longer than what scientists have proven it does to you.

Marijuana cured three types of cancer in mice.

beachguy in thongs
09-12-2005, 07:23 AM
I can see that I'm not getting the answer. Guess I'll have to find it out on my own.

Seems like no one cares about it. No one cares that it remains in your stomach as a free-radical scavenger, or goes into your bloodstream and creates freer flow of blood, or helps prevent cancer and heart disease, or extends cell-longetivity (which is proof that weed doesn't kill brain cells).

kaela
09-12-2005, 08:09 AM
hey that's really interesting. I want to check into that now. I'll give you feedback if i find anything worthy.

beachguy in thongs
09-12-2005, 08:16 AM
Thanks. I first found out about it's effects, through weed, in a legal drug book. I had all this material on herb and somehow found it only in there.

bzbuzzard
09-12-2005, 09:31 AM
ok.....wow...you guys sure a smart for a bunch of stoners lol liek you guys just busted out a bunch of fuckin chemistry shit lol.i was like.........woa.........lol but anyways yes its a proven fact cats can absorb the thc through there ears seriously though have your cat by you when you blaze....and everytime you exhale blow it in there ears and youll see teh difference theyll lazy around trip and fall run into things i do it to my cat ajay alll the time and she gets fuuuckked up and everytime i smoke now she will come running into the room cuz she can smell the weed and wants it :) so there ya go have fun

beachguy in thongs
09-12-2005, 07:02 PM
It took a couple glances, but your avatar finally hit me, bzbuzz.

Funny.

beachguy in thongs
09-12-2005, 07:08 PM
I've been thinking about, and you shouldn't just hide the bong, you should hide your whole arsenal. I don't think anyone could fathom how huge Jesus' hits would be!

red662
09-13-2005, 11:53 AM
without readin all the other posts and answers, ill throw this in

i was once incarcerated(long story) and in my time there i had 2 give urines samples randomly of course, anyway 2wards the time of my appeal, the solicitor told me the samples where all clean cept 4 the weed i had 4got 2 stop smokin.
anyway, my defense was i was in a cell with 6 others(happens all the time in mountjoy) and they continuasly smoked weed, and the second hand smoke musta messed my samples.
well sufice 2 say the judge didnt fall 4 it, especially when they put a quack on the stand and he said it was impossible 4 this 2 occcur????????? funny lookin back, but at the time... definatly not,lol
past life but all true

beachguy in thongs
09-13-2005, 04:33 PM
without readin all the other posts and answers, ill throw this in

i was once incarcerated(long story) and in my time there i had 2 give urines samples randomly of course, anyway 2wards the time of my appeal, the solicitor told me the samples where all clean cept 4 the weed i had 4got 2 stop smokin.
anyway, my defense was i was in a cell with 6 others(happens all the time in mountjoy) and they continuasly smoked weed, and the second hand smoke musta messed my samples.
well sufice 2 say the judge didnt fall 4 it, especially when they put a quack on the stand and he said it was impossible 4 this 2 occcur????????? funny lookin back, but at the time... definatly not,lol
past life but all true

Hey, when I was in 'pot' class, as I called it, the teacher told us of these cops who went into a truck and tested out the second-hand smoke theory to see if THC gets in your blood. Four cops smoked in a truck and one didn't. The one that didn't tested negative. That's what the guy said, the one who was being paid by everyone's fines via our state government.
So, If the judge believed a fact like that, he wouldn't believe you.

MyAntiDrugIsAmy
09-13-2005, 09:10 PM
i used to take melatonin when i couldn't sleep when i was younger. when i started smoking i didn't need it anymore, because weed balanced me out a bit and helped me feel tired when i was. anyway i looked up stuff about melatonin when i used to take it back in the sober days and found the same research. i'm glad someone else found it too. but i wasn't aware that it helps life span... makes sense though, you sleep more, you get more rest giving your body time to heal and repair what it needs to. plus the chemical effects of the melatonin anyway... good shit

beachguy in thongs
09-17-2005, 07:50 PM
I figure if we keep raising our melatonin levels, then we must might live forever.