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nakedgunner
08-08-2005, 03:27 AM
is weed better for u than cigs

MeatRulz
08-08-2005, 03:29 AM
from what ive read it is way more healtyer than ciggs.

ermitonto
08-08-2005, 04:30 AM
Tobacco kills about 3.5 million people per year. Marijuana has killed an estimated 0 people throughout recorded history. You do the math.

Nullific
08-08-2005, 04:34 AM
Short Answer: Yes.

Long Answer:
Marijuana smoke has been shown to contain many of the same chemicals that are in tobacco smoke, including many of the same polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and tars. Unlike tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke cannot cause emphysema because it does not obstruct small airways like tobacco smoke.
There has yet to be a reported case of lung cancer as a result of smoking marijuana alone and several studies suggest that lung function is not signficantly impaired in cannabis smokers.
What convinces me most that marijuana smoke is 'safer' than tobacco smoke is the fact that marijuana smoke isn't radioactive. What I mean by this is cigarette smoke is radioactive. Radio-fucking-active. Now im no doctor, but I know well enough that anything radioactive can't be very good for you. Especially if you're inhaling it.
Among the radioactive constituents of tobacco smoke is Polonium 210. This is the only agent of tobacco smoke that has been shown to cause cancer when inhaled in experiments involving cute little lab animals.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/cancer2.htm
http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Drugs/THC/Health/cancer.rad.html
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1432/a02.html
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57309

This is not to say that marijuana smoke is completely innocent of negatively impacting the health of your lungs. I think it can be said definatively however that it is a hell of a lot safer to inhale smoke that doesn't contain any sort of radioactive components.

3 Sheets To The Wind
08-08-2005, 02:44 PM
Short Answer: Yes.

Long Answer:
Marijuana smoke has been shown to contain many of the same chemicals that are in tobacco smoke, including many of the same polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons and tars. Unlike tobacco smoke, marijuana smoke cannot cause emphysema because it does not obstruct small airways like tobacco smoke.
There has yet to be a reported case of lung cancer as a result of smoking marijuana alone and several studies suggest that lung function is not signficantly impaired in cannabis smokers.
What convinces me most that marijuana smoke is 'safer' than tobacco smoke is the fact that marijuana smoke isn't radioactive. What I mean by this is cigarette smoke is radioactive. Radio-fucking-active. Now im no doctor, but I know well enough that anything radioactive can't be very good for you. Especially if you're inhaling it.
Among the radioactive constituents of tobacco smoke is Polonium 210. This is the only agent of tobacco smoke that has been shown to cause cancer when inhaled in experiments involving cute little lab animals.
http://www.ukcia.org/research/cancer2.htm
http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/Drugs/THC/Health/cancer.rad.html
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v03/n1432/a02.html
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/23/1728_57309

This is not to say that marijuana smoke is completely innocent of negatively impacting the health of your lungs. I think it can be said definatively however that it is a hell of a lot safer to inhale smoke that doesn't contain any sort of radioactive components.

Thanks, if you read my post about my parents telling me weed is 1000 times worse than cigs and that in a year or 2 i'll have Od'd on heroin and died then this info you gave will help, next time i get bitched at, i'll show them this:D

Nochowderforyou
08-08-2005, 04:34 PM
is weed better for u than cigs

Yes. There has never been a single case reported of someone getting cancer from cannabis only.

vicstar
08-08-2005, 05:47 PM
weed aint even harmfull god planted it thts whtn i think lol

Cacophony
08-08-2005, 05:51 PM
weed aint even harmfull god planted it thts whtn i think lol

God also planted tobacco lol.

But those companies add so much shit to cigs its unreal.

vicstar
08-08-2005, 06:00 PM
haha iu dint know tht ya but he didnt plant lighters lol so u smoke it ya ment to eat it not tht i do lol

ukhydropro
08-08-2005, 07:06 PM
CARBON MONOXIDE IS A POISON...... FACT ITS PRODUCED FROM ANYTHING THAT BURNS LOL SO YES IT IS STILL DANGEROUS...... AND BTW ERMITONTO CORRECTION THERE IS ACCTUALLY 2 RECORDED DEATHS FROM EXCESS CANNABIS CONSUMPTION. THIS DOESNT MEAN IT IS THE TRUTH LOL. THEY MUST HAVE EATEN OVER 4 KG OF PURE THC FOR THIS THOUGH LOL

poorman3
08-08-2005, 07:12 PM
is weed better for u than cigs

Yep, IMO.

ermitonto
08-08-2005, 07:44 PM
AND BTW ERMITONTO CORRECTION THERE IS ACCTUALLY 2 RECORDED DEATHS FROM EXCESS CANNABIS CONSUMPTION.

Excess cannabis consumption (i.e. OD'ing)? I think not. You'd have to smoke pounds and pounds. Maybe from the long-term effects of heavy smoking. Anyhow I'd like to see where you got this information.

Seag420
08-09-2005, 12:07 AM
cannabis CAN be as dangerous as tabbaco or alcohol, if its abused. with the skunk weed potencys nowadays,many stoners MAY develop pychosic's in the future, if they smoke powerfully enough weed for long enough. however if you drink vodka everyday for 5 years, i can guarntee you that your gonna be alot worse off than if you smoke skunk weed everyday for 5 years! its all about moderating yer use. now im gona go and smoke another bong!

vicstar
08-09-2005, 12:10 AM
cannabis CAN be as dangerous as tabbaco or alcohol, if its abused. with the skunk weed potencys nowadays,many stoners MAY develop pychosic's in the future, if they smoke powerfully enough weed for long enough. however if you drink vodka everyday for 5 years, i can guarntee you that your gonna be alot worse off than if you smoke skunk weed everyday for 5 years! its all about moderating yer use. now im gona go and smoke another bong!
LOL
agrees

Seag420
08-09-2005, 12:11 AM
also there is no way on earth that you could od on weed, you could sit there all day long smoking a pipe that is being constantly reloaded with the finest ganja on the planet(savour the thought!), and all you'ld do is smoke yerself sober

Nochowderforyou
08-09-2005, 12:13 AM
Excess cannabis consumption (i.e. OD'ing)? I think not. You'd have to smoke pounds and pounds. Maybe from the long-term effects of heavy smoking. Anyhow I'd like to see where you got this information.

A person would have to smoke approx. 5 acres of pot, at once, to OD. That is impossible.

I'd like to see where you got this info as well ukhydropro. I have a feeling it came out of your ass? ;)

KronicKyla
08-09-2005, 04:06 AM
Whats From The Earth Is Of The Greastest Worth!

Marijuana For Ever!

Kramerica
08-09-2005, 04:11 AM
When I'm smoking weed, I never drink alcohol and my caffeine consumption drops dramatically.
That alone must be beneficial to my health! :)

mellow mood
08-09-2005, 04:42 AM
im stoned

Beeblebrox.420
08-09-2005, 04:46 AM
im stoned Knock off the crap. There's no need to post this in every damn thread.

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
08-09-2005, 05:04 AM
Knock off the crap. There's no need to post this in every damn thread.
Lol damn, when i saw beeble replied i opened the thread hoping to see some long thing to read, i dont know why but i felt like reading, damn you mellow mood lol jk

bobthemagicdragon12
08-09-2005, 05:04 AM
is weed better for u than cigs
lol here i go.. short answer:defintely
long: that whole thing on cig smoke bein radioactive comes from when they r growing the tobacco plants, the fertilizer they use have phosphates in it and laymens terms this means its radioactive, ive heard a bunch of diff radioactive elements but the entire plant becomes radioactive enuf said. lol as for other areas, one thing u might hear alot is that marijuana smoke has 400 or over 400 chemicals in it, some ppl say 420 but thats cuz they dont know the real meaning of the term 420, 400 or over is true the over is mostly a liability thing u know they will find more eventually so they r leaving themselves a hole, anyways so yea there r a bunch of chemicals but in comparison a cup of coffee has about 1000 or more, lol i read something about all the chemicals that have been tested in marijuana smoke but i dont remember the numbers but i remember it being a very good thing, and the majority of them being harmless, something else u might here is that the smoke is carcinogenic, this has alot to do w/ the radioactive thing but the scientists paid by the govt tried to find any material that is carcinogenic not just radioacive ones, and they said they found a bunch but a study in madrid spain in 2004 proved otherwise, they found NONE but they did discover that marijuana actually fights certain types of cancer, the types were leukemia, a form of breast cancer and i dont remember the last one, but it also stopped tumor growth and even retarded existing tumors. ok the last major issue ive heard for marijuana smoke is the tar, a study ull come accross more often than not is that marijuana smoke has anywhere from 3-5 times the amount of tar than tobacco (tar is the crap that makes breathing tough) anyways this study is based on tobacco leaves vs marijuana leaves, ive got the study in a post somewhere on here, its a funny study it shows how scientists litterally asphyxiated there monkeys just to get the results they wanted, it was something like the equivalent to 30 joints in 5 min of smoke lol poor monkeys but ya its a good read i think its called cannabis vs tobacco or something like that in the medicinal section, anyways as we all no like no one smokes the leaves, we all smoke the buds which have been shown to have 1/3 or less the amount of tar than tobacco and the remaining tar as well as some of those chemicals if ur really that worried can be removed w/ a bong, waterpipe etc.. anyways those r all the major issues i can remember now anyways, so ya marijuana smoke is way the hell safer than tobacco smoke
p.s. marijuana is a bronchial dialator for all u unlucky ppl w/ asthma out there so ya it does the opposite of emphysema lol :p

Beeblebrox.420
08-09-2005, 05:13 AM
There you go, peng - a long post for you to read. :D

sToNeDpEnGuIn420
08-09-2005, 05:17 AM
There you go, peng - a long post for you to read. :D
lol YAY!

bobthemagicdragon12
08-09-2005, 05:39 AM
oops, lol i just read some of nullifics articles and they said the same thing i did, the only thing i found that i dont think was true is the whole 1970s reefer madness thing, reefer madness was created either in 1937 or around then, it helped lead to marihuanas illegalization in the US, anyways during Reagans second term i believe as president he did numerous studies on marijuana, these were studies just to find out information, no bias or anything, and well he found only positive things, thats y the late 60's and 70's were all about smokin pot, but then in the late 70's tests started up that had the bias of finding negative things and this is where u get all the bullshit studies that freevibe.com and all those sites use. lol i was gonna say somethin but i forgot lol, but i agree w/ nochowder, ive heard u have to smoke 40,000 times wut it takes u to get really stoned to actually OD and die from marijuana so ya thats probly about 5 acres, lol anyone seen w/o a paddle?? lol imagine that in a greenhouse times 5 and inhaling every bit of smoke there is, then u would probly die lol but good god wut a happy death it would be lol

Killa.Kali
08-09-2005, 06:05 AM
Ive heard both ways =\

Some say a joint is 4 cigarettes worth of tar
Some say a cigarette is 4 joints worth of tar
And Some people just say fuck it

I think from what i have read and from what i believe that pot is they are both "bad" for you but pot is just a little less harmful. The way i see it is ok ill say pot is more harsh on your lung but it has extremely lower addictive traits than tobacco. So one is not so harsh but extremely addicting, and one is pretty harsh and basically non-addictive.

Personally id rather be a user of a harsh and non-addictive drug than an addict of a not so harmful drug.

But i smoke weed and cigarettes so fuck it and smoke em if ya got em :D

bobthemagicdragon12
08-09-2005, 06:05 AM
lol ya i kinda ramble on and on sometimes

StonedStatus
08-09-2005, 06:42 AM
i see that most of you are not cig smokers. how much weed do y'all smoke each day? i smoke a cig hourly. the reason why cigs are worst is because that people get addicted to it and have to smoke regularly. unless you smoke a joint every hour then cigs are worst for you. just talking bout this made me spark a cig up already.

lol i was also here because i wanted something long to read, im high as fuck

bobthemagicdragon12
08-09-2005, 06:56 AM
lol ya, and im not a hater or anything, i just wont do it, i dont know too much about it, and i dont know how much of all the "truth" stuff is really true, but u know i just dont really wanna become a cig smoker, ive smoked em a couple times, but i prefer a cigar (ya i know its worse for u) and something else like weed or a hookah and either way i havent smoked in a long long time someone please hit an extra bowl for me its been almost a month... :(

NowhereMan
08-09-2005, 07:55 AM
cannabis CAN be as dangerous as tabbaco or alcohol, if its abused. with the skunk weed potencys nowadays,many stoners MAY develop pychosic's in the future, if they smoke powerfully enough weed for long enough. however if you drink vodka everyday for 5 years, i can guarntee you that your gonna be alot worse off than if you smoke skunk weed everyday for 5 years! its all about moderating yer use. now im gona go and smoke another bong!
sure doctor and many think thats crap
now what about pre existing pychosic's
do they count or did weed make them too
i resent anything that says weed is anywhere near bad as booze and cigs
or hints at it
its purely bullshit,

safest thing mankind could abuse,is cannabis
as a cig addict and caffiene fien i know what i speak from years in,
peace

poorman3
08-09-2005, 09:35 AM
cannabis CAN be as dangerous as tabbaco or alcohol, if its abused. with the skunk weed potencys nowadays,many stoners MAY develop pychosic's in the future, if they smoke powerfully enough weed for long enough. however if you drink vodka everyday for 5 years, i can guarntee you that your gonna be alot worse off than if you smoke skunk weed everyday for 5 years! its all about moderating yer use. now im gona go and smoke another bong!Thats total bullshit man! IMO. I don`t think I have to worry about a pychosic`s future S/P? , due to anything I have drank or smoked in the last 20 years. It is my own fault, I know this.. 5 years on Absolute "Vodka"! 15 years on Budweiser! 20 years on smoking all the meds I can get a hold of is just a ash in the wind. Combined that with all the scripts I have purchased for my nerves and hang-overs... well, I should be dead according to your thinking. LOL. Quit while your ahead man. Only if you beleive that bullshit... ABSOLUTLY! :D

duppy man
08-10-2005, 12:01 AM
on its own no. mixed with tobacco yes it actually increases the risk mixed with cigs

Hydrocolo
08-10-2005, 12:26 AM
The Journal of the American Medical Association,
Jan. 19, 2005, Vol. 293, No. 3, p. 298,
reported on the leading causes of death in the United States per year

·Tobacco (435,000 deaths; 18.1% of total US deaths)
·Poor diet and physical inactivity (400,000 deaths; 16.6%)
·Alcohol consumption (68,347 deaths; 3.5%)
·Microbial agents (75,000)
·Toxic agents (55,000)
·Motor vehicle crashes (26,347)
·Incidents involving firearms (29,000)
·Sexual behaviors (STDs, hepatitis B and C, and cervical cancer) (20,000)
·Illicit use of drugs (17,000)
·Deaths from aspirin (U.S. per year): 180 - 1,000 +
·Deaths from legal drugs (U.S. per year) at doses used for prevention, diagnosis, or therapy: 106,000
·Deaths from marijuana use: 0

thcbongman
08-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Weed is much heathier than cigs.

Whenever I smoke bud, it opens my ventricles. I could hit a bowl, and go out biking at optimum level. I am also a 2 pack a day smoker, and I could never light a jack before I go riding my bike or during it. I could stop in the middle of a trail, take a couple of hits of weed, and continue. Don't smoke cigerettes, it's stupid. Ganja can be part of a regimented exercise program, cigs can't.

Mojavpa
08-10-2005, 03:08 AM
I'm a clarinettist, and one thing i've noticed in my 12+ years of playing is that when I smoke cigs, I cant hold my breath as long, obviously, and that makes playing long passages really hard. (even if I smoke just one cig in the morning and perform or practice in the evening) But smoking pot really doesnt reduce my lung capacity at all, and I can go a really long time without taking a breath.

PoBoy Blazze
08-10-2005, 06:22 AM
You know, I just did a little calculating....I'm 28, been smokin since I was 18, average of 6-7 blunts a day (AVERAGE not counting my first 2 years warmin up...) Anyway, not counting leap years and shit, I've smoked a little over 26,000 blunts.....Is that even an ACRE??And that's my whole smoking career! And I feel FINE...I tried cigarettes and noticed my breath getting shorter in the first TWO WEEKS.....and TELL me about it Mojavpa I play Trombone!!

FroFoLife42
08-10-2005, 07:43 PM
Thats alot of blunts PoBoy lol

UniqueShadow08
08-10-2005, 09:32 PM
mary better than poison stix