Marc Emery needs our support

[FunkyMonkey]

Ive posted about this before and watched sadly as the topic died.
Here is a link to an article from the BC Marijuana Party appealing to our community for help and detailing exactly how we can help.
Read it,and act. Everyone can help, everyone should help.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4471.html

[FunkyMonkey]

BUMPO

[duppy man]

Ive posted about this before and watched sadly as the topic died.
Here is a link to an article from the BC Marijuana Party appealing to our community for help and detailing exactly how we can help.
Read it,and act. Everyone can help, everyone should help.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4471.html

just printed off ...I will photocopy and pass around to all this Saturday

[del...]

and for those who can spare a few bucks, here's the link to their legal fund:

http://www.cannabisculture.com/newstore/catpage.cgi?num=8&cart_id=6442987.27996


he has helped many of us here in america too. not only with support through his communications network but also financially and legal referrals. he donated $25K to the nevada initiative to fully legalize (unfortunately failed but not by much!) and many other medical causes here and in canada. he personally funded the defense of one of the ladies looking for penpals in the personal section here along with helping me immensely with a referral when i was in need years ago (i was one of the success stories for him, i'm very happy to say!). what i'm getting at is, this guy is for real. sure he comes off as a total asshole to many with his sometime arrogant attitude and he's not much different in r/l...but he does what counts when it matters and stands his ground. he has supported so many that now he needs our help so please, those that can, send what ya can his way. everyone else can hold kind thoughts for the man...thanks and sorry for the long ramble.

[kevy cola]

I sure as hell hope our government doesn't give into the meddling bully power known as the usa. The American government cannot arrest a Canadian citezen that never left Canadian soil. If Americans are trying to buy Canadian seeds then that's America's problem and maybe America should change their approach to finding a solution. They can't arrest a Canadian that never left Canadian soil, we're a fucking sovernge nation for fucks sake

[Zero Revolt]

I sure as hell hope our government doesn't give into the meddling bully power known as the usa. The American government cannot arrest a Canadian citezen that never left Canadian soil. If Americans are trying to buy Canadian seeds then that's America's problem and maybe America should change their approach to finding a solution. They can't arrest a Canadian that never left Canadian soil, we're a fucking sovernge nation for fucks sake

You are so right. I'm an american and I'm fucking ashamed of it.

[kablam]

I wrote down the numbers and will call tomorrow on my lunch break. I also will fax. I am very poor so I cannot donate but I will call, once a week, every week until this ordeal is over. I am ashamed of my country and I am so sorry this happened. Marc has been a blessing to medicinal and recreational users in the states for some time now. As soon as I get my masters degree I am seriously looking into immagration to become one of the good people up north. God bless Canada!

[FunkyMonkey]

Sweeeeet to see some people postin what I know is in their hearts!
And great to see a mod generating support as well.
Ive said it a few times and Im not gonna stop repeating it anytime soon:
This affects us all as smokers, and as freedom loving people.Nobody can afford to sit by and hope that the efforts of others bring rewards to them. We all need to be involved in whatever way we can.
I cant afford to donate to his fund right now but I can afford to annoy the hell out of everyone on that list as often as I can keep my anger to myself and speak intelligently and clearly.
Peace guys!

[FunkyMonkey]

BUMPO

[ezjim]

I put up a link for sending him help the day before he made bail ..and i sent what i had at the moment ..i will be sending a lil more as soon as i can out togeather a few more dollars ..i would like to suggest that any weed dealers out there add a 5 dollar tax per sack to send to marc's defense fund if you can...i feel the best way to raise money for helping him is by selling more weed ..also is there any way to keep a thread at the top of the list in each catagory asking for help ??

[rastabill89]

do they have any tee shirts that say "free marc emery" anything like that?

[FunkyMonkey]

Great idea . Make up some shirts Rastabill...Ill take 2 please :)
send the money to his defense fund.
Im thinkin about sellin my surplus bulbs for dirt cheap to raise a few bucks.
And great idea of dealers adding $5 per bag for his fund. Nobody could dispute an emery tax when they understand the situation. Well some dicks would but Id pay it gladly. With a tax receipt of course lol jk.

[FunkyMonkey]

Let the ideas fly....were creative, innovative people , especially when it comes to our beloved herb!
What else could we do to raise awareness and funds?

[del...]

or just shop at the cc store...

http://www.cannabisculture.com/newstore/catpage.cgi?num=0

[o2bn420]

i like the free mark emery pic--would make good sticker/tshirt

[kablam]

Called the numbers today. One person was rather rude to me even though I was very polite. I said that I was concerned about the fact that canada could allow an extradition when no crime was commited while on american soil. I continued to explain that if any canadian laws were broken than they should be delt with in canadian courts but was interrupted and told that it is not an issue to be taken up with the justice dept. rather I should contact my local member of parlament or something. I assume that is like a congressman. Anyway I thanked the man for his time and said that I would be shocked and dismayed to find out that Mr. Emery was extradited but the guy hung up on me before I could finish. I will still call back next week though. I will make it my friday task on my lunch break.

[FunkyMonkey]

Sweet Kablam. I like how you kept it cool even if he was a dick.
I have not found anyone especially rude yet but nobody wants to really listen to me either. I dont care if they are takin a shit as long as my call gets logged ( no pun ).
Ill be on a first name basis with some of these folks soon enough.
Huge list though. Time to call some US numbers and add my name to their list of foreign unfriendlies lol.

[zacchaeus]

One of the first charges against Mr. Emery, according to U.S. Law, Should or will be a TAX charge, similar to the links below.
The Individual States have laws on the books that legalize MJ, and its associates, if the tax has been paid.
These are not ancient Laws, they were written in the 90's.
The U.S. law enforcement agencies are not following their own rules, regardless of what the law openly states. (It is a bit like finding the pastor of the local church congregation, bangin' the wife of the music minister and preaching on Adultery the next Sermon)
Here are a couple of morsels to view:
http://www3.state.id.us/idstat/TOC/63042KTOC.html

as well as:
http://www.le.state.ut.us/~code/TITLE59/59_13.htm

Two U.S. States, amazing. This may help Mr. Emery's defense should he be extradited. It plainly shows that the Drug Lords of the U.S. are not willing to uphold their own laws and will go to any length to silence all who are a threat.

Any ideas?

[FunkyMonkey]

Isnt the tax of the recievers country the responsibility of the reciever to pay?
I dont think its his responsibility to collect and submit for a foreign goverment.

[FunkyMonkey]

wow $3.50 tax per gram of MJ in idaho

imagine that, payin tax and having to buy a 'tax paid' sticker to put on your bag so they dont double tax you. It seems so ...odd.
Good links. Ill finish reading later on when I have more time.

[del...]

and seeing as how they don't enforce sales tax on interstate sales, i can't see that one flying very far. the whole deal centers on the fact he's being charged with crimes in the states for the same ones he's been committing in the open in canada for over a decade (except that laudering charge but that'll be interesting to watch to see how they can tie in donations to a political cause to money laundering...it'll open up a whole new can of worms!). i doubt if this will get far in the courts but will be an extreme financial burden on those involved, probably their intent as a "2nd best" outcome.

[ArtRollins]

Marc Emery is a victim of a ridiculous war against a weed. The deep and horrible tendrils of the corporate United States government are reaching out to make a political statement to the world. Marc is no enemy. He is a friend. He is a stoner. He stands for Liberty and Freedom not just for a plant, but also for humanity. Without the liberty and freedom to choose, what does one have?

Marc is committed to the cause of liberty. His life is based on ones liberty to choose ones own medication. The corporate United States government wants to tell Marc he canâ??t let Americans make their choices. Americans are weak knee wipes that canâ??t stand for their rights. They lost it eons ago and march to whatever tunes the president decrees in his next presidential order (ever see authority for presidential orders in their Constitution?) That country is controlled by a corporation in Washington DC. Can you justify a limited liability corporation being "responsible" to the people? How does responsibility fall on limited liability?

But being that as it may, Marc is for real. The guy gives his profits away. Why keep something they (the government) would steal from you if you had? We do need to help. So read that page, I want to steal it and put it on all my sites. Stoner freaks cant get off the duff to do some stuff, come on, that's nuff yuall

Art Rollins
Cannabis Farmer (http://www.cannabisfarmer.com)

[ArtRollins]

(except that laudering charge but that'll be interesting to watch to see how they can tie in donations to a political cause to money laundering...it'll open up a whole new can of worms!). i doubt if this will get far in the courts but will be an extreme financial burden on those involved, probably their intent as a "2nd best" outcome.


If you saw this week the Patriot Act, the most un-patriotic act ever produced by a government, has in it a new crime called narco-terrorisim. It may be coincidence that it passed as they grabbed our friend, but I believe they want to use that law. I hope that the lawyers up their realize that once in the US, other charges, such as treason as read in the new narco-terrorist provision in the Patriot Act may be applied. America is no land of freedom or Liberty. A hostile force holds it, unaccountable to the people. Do not give Marc up to them. The money laundering is easy once you understand the "rule of law." You see, Marc send money over borders to individuals working to "change the laws of the United States." The United States, in that Patriot act defines treason as "disagreeing with the laws of the United States." Do you not think this fits quite well?

Art - American in Exile
Cannabis Farmer (http://www.cannabisfarmer.com)

[del...]

it is something every american should/must fear! this so-called patriot act goes against everything this country was founded on! now bush wants to make it part of the constitution instead of yearly or bi-yearly (whatever it is) renewals like it is now. now why does bush feel such a need to make this permanent???

[duppy man]

or just shop at the cc store...

http://www.cannabisculture.com/newstore/catpage.cgi?num=0

going to have a look the guy is a hero we should all lend our support

[gs8778]

Fuck Emery, I hope the bastard rots. Overcharging for inferior product that doesnt even get where it's sent. If you've dealt with him you'd know he's a scumbag.

[kablam]

...now why does bush feel such a need to make this permanent???

Because bush and his administration are all about one thing... taking money and power and maintaining it on a long term basis. The want to keep control by scaring the pants off of everyone. Playing up the terrorist boogieman that we all need to be protected from, by him and his people, military, ect. Anyway, this belongs in the political forum and there is a reason I don't visit that one...

[FunkyMonkey]

Well said Art and Del. As a Canadian I appreciate your position. You recognise the implications of this issue on both sides of the border and the world at large as a result. This will be a prescedant setting case for American foreign policy and relations between our two countries.
I am confidant that we can show the powers that be that we the people have the power and are prepared to use it. All we have to do is change that premise into action in as many people as possible. Our combined voices have the power to be heard if we can just inspire more people into standing up for what they hold in their hearts in the face of these bullies.We are many, but not as organised as they. The fear mongering that set the stage for this action has reached many people. We need to reach them with truth. When I say 'we' I mean everyone who cherishes their freedom and can see the lies that threaten it.
I am not as educated on American policy and recent changes in power structures as you are and I appreciate the opportunity to learn as we together fight this fight.
Peace.

[FunkyMonkey]

GS8778:
Yea youre right man. Forget all that crap we've been spewing about human rights, personal freedom, international bullying, access to medication and all that petty unimportant stuff. Lets get to what is REALLY important here.
We should drag him over the border to face persecution and life imprisonment while the funds that move the Marijuana legalization machine are spent on lawyers and bail . WE should do that because the mailman lost your fucking seeds.
Then we can all watch as they go from one target to the next and persecute anyone who refuses to acknowledge the supremacy of the American government over all sovereign nations and their peoples.


You, kiddo, have a lot of growing up to do before you can sit at the grownups table to talk. In the mean time go educate yourself pal. Do some reading on Marc and his life and how the risks and shit he has taken have benefitted you, then come back with your public apology.
Peace, and happy reading.

[gs8778]

Just saying the man's a real asshole. obviously you've never dealt with him. And ask some other's that have been around here longer than you. newbie :D

[FunkyMonkey]

haha i really get a kick outa people using the word newbie like a crown upon their own head. Like this label will somehow put me in my place.
Friend, It may be only a short time that I have been posting messages here on this board but I am in no way a 'newbie' to this culture.
I wont waste my time sharing who I am and where I come from with you because it is irrelevant here. But as long as you made yourself feel good for a second its all good.

So aside from that it still looks to me that you feel a mans life sholuld be spent behind bars because you dont like his personality and you dont like that the mailman didnt deliver a pkg....regarless of the facts of the case. How does this make sense to you?
Why disregard everything else in your mind? Why so closed?
Im going to reserve my assumptions and leave it to you to enlighten me.

peace

[gs8778]

c'mon. I only brought in the n word because I knew it would provoke a reaction. Even had the little smiley after it to try and hint that it was in fun, but w/e. I understand what he has done for the "movement" and all that jazz, I really do. But despite all of the good things that he's tried to accomplish he is an asshole. He can do good, and yet still be an asshole. One whom I hope has a fun time in federal bang me in the ass prison. You see, his business practices sucked major donkey dong. And I despise him for it. He overcharges, has shitty stealth, and no reliability. So yes, I do think that he should be punished for his personality. He's an arogant prick and I despise his business ethics. While I'll concede that it may be to far to say he should be jailed, it's nice to know that he's learning now that karmas a bitch.
why he's a douche...
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thread.shtml?8x58098
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thread.shtml?14x66609
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thread.shtml?22x77735
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thread.shtml?22x52746
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thread.shtml?22x27183
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thread.shtml?22x22266
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thread.shtml?22x18961

[NowhereMan]

I sure as hell hope our government doesn't give into the meddling bully power known as the usa. The American government cannot arrest a Canadian citezen that never left Canadian soil. If Americans are trying to buy Canadian seeds then that's America's problem and maybe America should change their approach to finding a solution. They can't arrest a Canadian that never left Canadian soil, we're a fucking sovernge nation for fucks sake


ya think not
a john doe warrant will get YOUR judges to arrest you for the USA
all they do is ask,show some EVIDENCE and extradite ya ass
you commit a crime agianst the usa and the usa will come after you
thats a fact
be worried,
but i aint talking over no dam lil seed order

[FunkyMonkey]

gs you gotta admit it looked like an insult ,though you meant it as fun. Its all good, I misunderstood I suppose.

I read the first link and I gotta call bullshit on the guy claiming Marc Emery threatened to expose him as a grower to the cops for saying his seeds were bad. That claim is sooo rediculous its a waste of time to comment further on it. To believe it you must have no grasp whatsoever what Marc stands for.

link #2 wild accusations impossible to verify and cannot in themselves qualify him as a scammer. If his site was up still you could go read his policies regarding satisfaction and perhaps see that maybe this guy took the wrong approach IF he got crap seeds. Its a competetive business with lots of marketing lies to sway customers away from certain banks. the other guy says he got ripped off 8 times....come on who gets ripped off 8 times by one guy?....nobody.

4 of the others are the same guy complaining about prices

sereously, a few posts from a guy who may or may not have had a negative experience ( which happens in every business nobody has %100 satisfaction rate ) is enough for you to decide he should rot?
I thought you were going to show me something good man.

For those few posts one could answer with thousands and thousands of satsfied customers. He did it for 10 years and made millions ( which he donated to legal funds, and to further the fight for freedom and legalisation all over the world by the way )
and that doesnt happen to scammers.

I cant believe I spent this much time rebutting rediculous statements.
Well I read your info...fair enough you spend a little time educating yourself now dont you think. Google him and read up.

peace and gnight.

[FunkyMonkey]

Man what a waste of time that post was. its all irrelevant argueing.
Regardless of any accusations of poor quality or high prices or postal issues or even personality. The fact remains that he did not do anything that has not been accepted by our government and legally speaking he should not have been attacked by our police as a proxy of the US govermental forces. Period. Our government taxing him for his seed sales and collecting these taxes for a decade is effectual endorsement of his actions as legal and acceptable. Regardless of grey areas in written laws on our side of the border he was allowed to carry on in the open for long enough that there should have been no interferance at this point, especially from outside our country.
If anything, our goverment should have protected him against this attack.

[TokerOfGreenville]

Has anyone on here ever been treated bad personaly by Marc Emery? There are hundreds of other seed banks who want the huge amount of business he got. Don't you think it is possible that people are just slandering his name for their own good?

[del...]

gs8778...obviously you are new and following the crowd. had you spent the time browsing way back into the past you'd know the true storyline. because you are new into the scene i'll refrain from the name calling your so quick to rely on...i'll just advise you to : GET A FUCKIN CLUE...before blurting stupid shit.


btw...just what have YOU done for the cause lately...besides getting shit-faced?

[FunkyMonkey]

well said del.
I need more patience for ppl like that. I get too riled too quick. ( deep breath)

[FunkyMonkey]

MARC EMERY SPEAKS ON POT TV

http://www.pot-tv.com/archive/shows/pottvshowse-3919.html

Watch it! ;)

[FunkyMonkey]

bump

[kevy cola]

keep marc free!

[del...]

yeah, sorry but i get tired of all that 'marc the narc' crap as i was around when it went down and that whole line is based on what was taken out of context during the heat of one of the more major flame wars seedbanks then were waging on each other. it's all in the archives at mh...and maybe og too, if they kept them after the server switch a few years ago. anyway, it's based solely on him saying to a troll that he forgets who has his address, IF he had just ordered as he said he did (please, i am paraphrasing here but that is the gist of it)...and you'll have to keep in mind much of that kind of shit was being tossed around then along with counters and tracers getting posted and so-called hackers doing their html tricks ...just a lot of nasty shit going around back then and most was directed at the top seedbanks at that time, weedseed mike, marc, hs, and bros grimm to some extent even tho they were mostly breeders. a few other breeders that retailed also, but no matter...it was litterally war online! ron can tell you stories too...

but it all boils down to marc did not narc on anyone, then or now. just one of those myths ya find on the net that refuse to die...

yes, he did charge more than most (probably anyone, don't know) for his imported seed but there were reasonable priced offerings from bc breeders which helped everyone out. i bought from him once, my 1st purchase of store-boughts but i flew up there when he had the hbc store and met him in the basement then we met again at his 1st tokers' bowl, then called the cc cup or something like that but that is the extent of our friendship/social connection. but having seen what i've seen and experienced him i'd have to say he's being totally honest with everyone regarding his need for our help and i personally feel there is no one out there in the public eye right now who deserves it more...well, maybe renee boje but i look at her case as directly connected...but she is in definite need of our help too so if you can't bring yourself to giving marc a hand, here's an excellent chance to raise your spirit and boost your ego without giving to someone you dislike! her story and how you can help is here...
http://www.reneeboje.com/

just do something, anything! the timing won't get any better than now...

[Breukelen advocaat]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/13/international/americas/13emery.html

There is an article about Emery in The NEW YORK TIMES' International section, Sat., Aug. 13, 2005, titled: This Johnny Alppleseed Is Wanted by the Law.

[FunkyMonkey]

Nicer article than I thought comming from the NY Times. They seem unbiased enough that it reflects a sample of the US citizens philosophy/attitude towards marijauna. Not quite what the dea would have you believe.

[jimbones]

THIS IS A WAKE UP CALL!!!!
People who thought that the u.s gov. is run by the oil money were right on target. the u.s. is no longer a safe place to live in freedom and the pursuit of happiness.How dare the d.e.a. cross the canadian border and arrest Marc Emery for selling seeds !!!The FUCKING dea RATS r targeting the growing cannabis movement here in California where the LAW states that under prop.215 that a person can get ,grow,smoke,and buy cannabis with a DR,s Recc. to use it medicinally!!! The chicken shit d.e.a. rats arn,t busting speed factories allover the state but are instead go after people simply obeying the law.This latest act of the dea just shows anyone with an i.q. over 10 that we live in a police state that is trying to run the world.