Alien Invasion

[Torog]

Alien Invasion
By: Bill O'Reilly for BillOReilly.com
Thursday, Jul 28, 2005


With housing prices soaring and property taxes punishing in many states, owning your own home has become a life defining situation. Millions of Americans struggle to make mortgage payments in order to raise their kids in a safe environment, free from danger and chaos.
In the New York town of Farmingville, on Long Island, Woodmont Place was once considered a nice street, full of working class Americans enjoying a slice of suburbia. But that was before a woman named Rosalina Dias bought a house on the block.

Dias is a slumlord, and soon 33 Woodmont Place was packed with illegal immigrants. Up to 64 of them lived in a 900 square foot house with two bathrooms. These men slept on mattresses scattered around the floors and, neighbors say, often used the backyard to relieve themselves.

Predictably, the folks living in the neighborhood complained to authorities. Predictably, the authorities did little. In fact, it took more than five years before Rosaline Dias was arrested for refusing to comply with a court order to close the house. When police raided the structure, they found electrical wires hanging from holes in the ceiling, a propane gas tank next to exposed wires, and garbage all over the place. The house was condemned.

Just imagine you and your family living on Woodmont Place. Your kids seeing scores of strange men come and go around the clock. Each time you pass the dilapidated house, you are reminded that the value of your property has drastically declined. Who would want to live near that situation?

Rosalina Dias was charging the illegal aliens $200 apiece to live in squalor. That means this vile woman was taking in about $12,000 a month for a house that cost her $86,000. Dias was able to do this for more than 60 months.

The only reason Dias was shut down was because a politician named Steve Levy, the Suffolk County executive, demanded it. And what did Levy get for his trouble? Well, he was roundly criticized by The New York Times and Newsday, and viciously attacked by ideologues. One of them, Reverend Allan Ramirez, told Newsday Levy was guilty of "ethnic cleansing."

That was music to Newsday's ears. One of its headlines tipped the newspaper's hand: "Dozens of Men Now Left with Nowhere to Go."

How about going home to their respective countries and obeying the law, Newsday?

But The New York Times was even worse. In an editorial, the paper stated: "Mr. Levy sang the law-enforcement tune ... bemoaning the dread danger posed by Latino flophouses and charging that TV stations and newspapers ... had been wrong to point out the problems with Mr. Levy's callous assault on slumlords."

Callous assault on slumlords? Is the New York Times kidding? This Dias woman is a parasite who ruined an entire neighborhood and exploited destitute individuals for money. And Levy's insistence that the law be enforced is a "callous assault" on her?

This is what we have come to in America. Despicable behavior is now justified by media people so steeped in bone-headed ideology they literally can't think straight.

The folks living on Woodmont Place are finally rid of a dangerous situation that should have never been allowed to exist. Illegal aliens have no right to live on your block; they are not supposed to be in this country. Soulless slumlords have no right to violate building codes and destroy neighborhoods. Irresponsible media have no right to attack a public servant who is enforcing the law and looking out for the folks.

Woodmont Place has been liberated. But there are many other battles to be fought.

[NowhereMan]

Immigration has its own alphabet soup of words and arcane government terminology. You will have an advantage if you know the meaning of certain key words and phrases.

Accompanying Relative. In most cases, a person who is eligible to receive some type of visa or green card can also obtain green cards or similar visas for immediate members of his or her family. These family members are called accompanying relatives, and include spouses and unmarried children under the age of 21.

that explains that,


found this of interest
http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showfast.html?article=58439

The district court judge who heard arguments regarding New Ipswich police's authority to charge an illegal alien with criminal trespass, will hear eight similar cases â?? all originating in Hudson â?? next Friday, according to the defendants' attorneys.

The court made the determination to bundle the cases Thursday, said Nathan Warecki, a legal assistant at the Merrimack-based law offices of Mona Movafaghi, which is representing four of the eight defendants.

"We look forward to a favorable decision in this matter," said attorney Randall Drew of the Movafaghi firm. "Hopefully, the judge's ruling in these hearings will prevent any additional unlawful arrests of undocumented aliens."

The cases will be heard 8:30 a.m. Friday at Jaffrey-Peterborough District Court and will be strictly limited to the motion to dismiss filed by Movafaghi and Drew â?? who are representing Margarito Jaramillio-Escobar, Sergio Robles-Ruiz, Marcos Vinicius S. Sousa and Jorge Mora Ramirez.

The motion to dismiss argues local police do not have the authority to enforce immigration law.

Hudson's criminal trespass cases against Frederico Barros-Batistele, Wellington Brustolin Da Silva, Luiz De Amorim, Mauro Sergio Farias and Bernarda Gallego will also be heard on Friday, Warecki said.

On July 12, Judge L. Phillips Runyon III of the Jaffery-Peterborough District Court heard the criminal trespass case dealing with Jorge Mora Ramirez. The judge, however, reserved judgment until he hears arguments from Hudson Police.

New Ipswich Police Chief W. Garrett Chamberlain gained national attention when he charged Ramirez, 21, with criminal trespassing in mid-April. Police found Ramirez with several false identification papers and a Mexican driver's license when his car broke down in New Ipswich.

Calling Chamberlain's interpretation of the law "pretty creative," Hudson Police Chief Richard Gendron adopted the practice of charging illegal aliens with criminal trespass.

And, on May 10, Sergio Robles-Ruiz, 21, and Margarito Jaramillio-Escobar, 23, were pulled over because their vehicle's headlight did not work and cited with criminal trespass after Hudson police determined they were illegal aliens from Mexico.

According to state law: "A person is guilty of criminal trespass if, knowing that he is not licensed or privileged to do so, he enters or remains in any place."

Citing post-9/11 security concerns and a lack of federal illegal immigration enforcement, the two local police chiefs said they are justified in citing illegal aliens with criminal trespass

[newgroweroldsmoker]

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save yourselves















while you still can ;)















NGOS;)

[root]

Criminal trespass! what a great way of taking care of the illegal aliens!
Give that police chief free coffee and donuts for life!!! :D

[XTC]

Immigration is one thing with the conservatives I agree with. I don't know why Bush isn't doing much about our boarder control. Rumor around the campfire is that immigrants will be drafted first, if there is a draft.

[F L E S H]

Immigration is one thing with the conservatives I agree with. I don't know why Bush isn't doing much about our boarder control. Rumor around the campfire is that immigrants will be drafted first, if there is a draft.
Bingo

[BlueCat]

Actually as of last July, 30, 2003 972 (its higher now) active military personnel were non-citizens, In the first days of the war in Iraq, rumors spread in Mexican communities on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border that undocumented immigrants who enlisted could get citizenship.

One of the first U.S. soldiers to die in Iraq, Jose Gutierrez, was an orphaned Guatemalan who at the time of his death was not even an American citizen.



What can we say of the young Latino men who sacrificed their lives in Iraq? That they fought without knowing their enemy, played their role as pawns in a geopolitical chess game devised by arrogant bureaucrats, and died simply trying to get an education; trying to have a fair shot at the American Dream that has eluded the vast majority of Latinos for over a century and a half.

Jorge Mariscal, a professor at the University of California, San Diego
As U.S. casualties in Iraq continue to mount, so does the worry in the country's Latino community that its children are dying in unusually high numbers and are being lured into dangerous service with targeted recruiting by the Armed Forces.

Hispanic Soldiers Die in Greater Numbers in Iraq.....

[BlueCat]

SO don't cross the border but you can have your ass blown away for us....thats ok.

[Nullific]

"Despicable behavior is now justified by media people so steeped in bone-headed ideology they literally can't think straight." - Bill O'Reilly

[F L E S H]

"Despicable behavior is now justified by media people so steeped in bone-headed ideology they literally can't think straight." - Bill O'Reilly
LOfuckinL

Definition of irony....

[newgroweroldsmoker]

it makes sense and explains a few things though;)




NGOS:)

[bhallg2k]

For all the complaining I hear about illegal aliens, no one ever seems to complain when the presence of those same people, due to corporate exploitation, make goods and services cheaper.

[Torog]

Actually as of last July, 30, 2003 972 (its higher now) active military personnel were non-citizens, In the first days of the war in Iraq, rumors spread in Mexican communities on both sides of the U.S.-Mexican border that undocumented immigrants who enlisted could get citizenship.

One of the first U.S. soldiers to die in Iraq, Jose Gutierrez, was an orphaned Guatemalan who at the time of his death was not even an American citizen.



What can we say of the young Latino men who sacrificed their lives in Iraq? That they fought without knowing their enemy, played their role as pawns in a geopolitical chess game devised by arrogant bureaucrats, and died simply trying to get an education; trying to have a fair shot at the American Dream that has eluded the vast majority of Latinos for over a century and a half.

Jorge Mariscal, a professor at the University of California, San Diego
As U.S. casualties in Iraq continue to mount, so does the worry in the country's Latino community that its children are dying in unusually high numbers and are being lured into dangerous service with targeted recruiting by the Armed Forces.

Hispanic Soldiers Die in Greater Numbers in Iraq.....
Howdy Blue Cat,

Your last claim:"Hispanic Soldiers Die in Greater Numbers in Iraq....",is similar to what leftists claimed during the Vietnam war,that black soldiers are dying in greater numbers..it's just another liberal tactic,one of their favorites..playin the race card,trying to convince hispanics that the Right is evil and targetting their youth for exploitation.

I think that it's great,that prospective new citizens,would be willing to fight for their new country..that is honorable..and I'd almost trust their loyalty,over natural-born citizens,from the Left. If there's a draft,I doubt seriously,if it will be based on race,but the Left will make it seem so..just like they have before.

It's pretty dang sad,when non-citizens are more willing to fight for Freedom,than our own miserable denizens of the Left..they at least understand,that one must fight for Freedom and be ever vigilant in that cause,they better understand the enemies of the Free World..than many of our own citizens,who take their freedoms for granted,and as long as they have their freedom,they see no reason for others to have the same..yup..pretty dang sad.

Have a good one....

[nicholasstanko]

SO don't cross the border but you can have your ass blown away for us....thats ok.


Bluecat are you saying that it's wrong to stop immigrants from crossing? i'm just wondering. your post is broad to me.

[nicholasstanko]

For all the complaining I hear about illegal aliens, no one ever seems to complain when the presence of those same people, due to corporate exploitation, make goods and services cheaper.


yeh that's true. but at what cost? it drives down the wages in order to balance. the illegals will work dirt cheap but what about the mom an' pop american worker?

see the catch? the chinese already get alot of jobs, and look how the americans are already suffering.


i went into target and kmart to buy a television and the one i wanted cost 200 bucks. when i went to wal-mart however, i got the same one for 178. i hate wal-mart...but the prices...so low...

what do you think will happen to kmart and target in the next few years?

[nicholasstanko]

Howdy Blue Cat,

Your last claim:"Hispanic Soldiers Die in Greater Numbers in Iraq....",is similar to what leftists claimed during the Vietnam war,that black soldiers are dying in greater numbers..it's just another liberal tactic,one of their favorites..playin the race card,trying to convince hispanics that the Right is evil and targetting their youth for exploitation.

I think that it's great,that prospective new citizens,would be willing to fight for their new country..that is honorable..and I'd almost trust their loyalty,over natural-born citizens,from the Left. If there's a draft,I doubt seriously,if it will be based on race,but the Left will make it seem so..just like they have before.

It's pretty dang sad,when non-citizens are more willing to fight for Freedom,than our own miserable denizens of the Left..they at least understand,that one must fight for Freedom and be ever vigilant in that cause,they better understand the enemies of the Free World..than many of our own citizens,who take their freedoms for granted,and as long as they have their freedom,they see no reason for others to have the same..yup..pretty dang sad.

Have a good one....


it's not a racial issue. it's a class issue. both sides of the political spectrum convince us it's because of race. ITS NOT!

Poor white people are recruited to fight in droves. They all serve as front line fire and the rich kids are back up just in case.


Being hispanic or black is irrelevant. It's because the majority they recruit happen to be poor. if wealth were equally distributed, we wouldnt have this bullshit topic about race. spanish and blacks would have been keeping their spoiled privileged kids home safe just like the elite upper class do now.

[BlueCat]

You know Torog your opinion does not mean a damn thing to me. You can spit your neocon bullshit all you want. It is just that bullshit.
You can't be happy letting me have my opinion and you yours. You can't be civil. Gentleman my ass. You always have some smart ass remark.

You are so clueless. You continually complain about liberals while supporting the Neoliberals and their wars. NEWSFLASH:They are both cut from the same cloth.

You think tacking a flag over your trailer door makes you are great American. You follow blindly without question. You don't know the corporations running our government or how they are tied into war. You have not even bothered to look have you? Do you even keep up with the lobbyist?
Have you read about Dyncorp, Unnocal, Halliburton, Lockheed, Brown and Root,Diebold?
DO you know who is running them or who benefits from their profit?
YOU can't possibly think that is not an important issue.

I am sick of trying to be civil to you. Every post I make you follow behind with the liberals are out to get us....well it is the neoliberals and you are helping them, so get it straight.

Facts are Bush does allow Hispanics to get their citizenship if they will fight for the USA. They are joining in large numbers and they are dying in large numbers. The immigration in this country is as high as it was during Ellis Island thanks to Bush. We don't have the resources to support them thanks to BUSH, and thanks to YOU.

Bush gives millions to start a head start program for 4 year olds in Iraq but cuts the funds for head start in his own country. I guess American 4 year old don't matter.
Do you loyalties lie with Iraq, Saudi, Israel or AMERICA? Its OK Americans don't matter.... all that matters is oil and selling arms.

You can call yourself a great American if it makes you feel better about yourself, but you are living in a fantasy world. Suffocate in that neoliberal box of yours Torog go ahead let them win. There's no fool like an old fool.

The fact that our country is run by a handful of corporations and the line between those corporations and our military gets more blurred each day alludes you.
As far as I am concerned if you support George Bush you are a traitor to your country and everything that it stands for.

You can't even admit when one of those assholes sells out his own countrymen, like Karl Rove...you said; "oh I think that is just a Dem plant story." The fucking traitor is caught, red handed in a lie even the CIA said he was told Plume was under cover. Keep kissing their ass, Torog, that's what a weak man would do. It takes a real man to stand up for his country. It takes a real man to go against the grain of the establishment. I think you have clearly established you are not up for the job.


You live in a paranoid state of mind, I have read you freeper posts..."oh no my uncle, cousin, whatever lives by a nuclear plant, I'm scared, how far will the fall out be" :eek:
You are so typical of the uneducated, paranoid hayseed, the rest of the world makes fun of. Your opinion really isn't worth much. If you are against one of my posts that is just a guarantee to me that I am on the right track.

I have tried to be patient with you in hopes you could step outside the box long enough to get a grip on what is happening to our country. I thought since you raised a level headed daughter you can't be all bad. I was going to one of hr websites even before I stated posting here.
I bet you did not raise her did you? That would explain a lot.

So you just wave your flag and pretend you are this great father and a great moral individual, while talking about controlling your children, and shooting immigrants that cross illegally. Continue to claim Christianity while calling all Saudi men weak individuals, or little men that can easily be beat up. You are such a fine example of a Christian aren't you? Hypocrites like you are why I stopped going to church.

You can call yourself a great American if it makes you feel better about yourself, but you are living in a fantasy world. Suffocate in that neoliberal box of yours Torog go ahead let them win. There's no fool like an old fool.


You are just mad because, your little worship Torog plan did not work. We give you a few compliments about being a man for apologizing and it goes to your head. It was almost comical watching you puff up..
You thought you would attack Hardon for his plant names and the women on the blog would all flock to you.

Help Help Torog save us from the nasty words

Torog------------------------------------------>white horse--------------------------------------------------->

Please Torog come save us poor weak women.

"There's no need to fear....Torog is here"!....
OH MY HERO...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
give me a break!

take some if that spare time of yours and instead of waiting by the mailbox for your welfare check go back to school.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4804.htm

http://www.reflector.com/news/content/shared/news/world/stories/0227_WAR_DEAD.html

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=1991

[BlueCat]

Bluecat are you saying that it's wrong to stop immigrants from crossing? i'm just wondering. your post is broad to me.

No Nic I am not saying it is wrong to guard our borders. I was just stating that some of those non-cits happen to be fighting for us.

I do think it is wrong to tie them up and leave them sitting in the sun with no water. I think it is wrong to hire illegals because it encourages whole families to cross the dessert and die. They just want to eat like any other family.
If we are going to hire them than let them cross at the gate where it is safe.

http://www.rtfcam.org/report/volume_21/No_3/article_4.htm

http://www.saxakali.com/immigration/dod1.htm

http://www.cpt.org/publications/sider.php <--------real Christains Torog take note.

[BlueCat]

For all the complaining I hear about illegal aliens, no one ever seems to complain when the presence of those same people, due to corporate exploitation, make goods and services cheaper.

You're exactly right! I wonder what would have happened if people had taken this same attitude when families were immigrating here from Europe...turn the boat around guys we don't want you....
I hardly think that is the American way.

[nicholasstanko]

No Nic I am not saying it is wrong to guard our borders. I was just stating that some of those non-cits happen to be fighting for us.

I do think it is wrong to tie them up and leave them sitting in the sun with no water. I think it is wrong to hire illegals because it encourages whole families to cross the dessert and die. They just want to eat like any other family.
If we are going to hire them than let them cross at the gate where it is safe.

http://www.rtfcam.org/report/volume_21/No_3/article_4.htm

http://www.saxakali.com/immigration/dod1.htm

http://www.cpt.org/publications/sider.php <--------real Christains Torog take note.

yeh thats the key. i dont have a problem with immigration...i have a problem with people willing to break the laws of the country before they even arrive.

[bhallg2k]

yeh that's true. but at what cost? it drives down the wages in order to balance. the illegals will work dirt cheap but what about the mom an' pop american worker?

My point wasn't to defend illegal aliens. Not at all.

I was just saying that really no one really cares about this issue, despite what they may say. It's a ridiculous right wing, oddly patriotic wedge-issue and nothing else. Companies get employees who will work for substantially less with no benefits and in terrible conditions. Then consumers get cheaper goods and services as a result. Sure, it's morally questionable but who's complaining about that?

Even the "security" arguments against the practice don't make sense. Last time I checked, the terrorists who got into America did so legally.

If Republicans, or Democrats for that matter, were serious about this "problem," they'd press their rich, corporate donors to stop hiring illegal aliens and this would stop. I guarantee that people wouldn't stream over the border illegally if there wasn't a paycheck involved. But we all know that ain't gonna happen.

I just think the whole thing is funny. High comedy in fact. And W's solution is the best of all. Amnesty: illegals get to stay and keep working on the cheap; a massively appeasable solution for his corporate cronies and an entirely new base of voters to lie to. It's just perfect.

[Psycho4Bud]

Is it completely up to the Government, we have power also. Read this:
http://apmp.berkeley.edu/APMP/pubs/i9news/newangle040302.html

Do you really care about the issue? Don't buy anything with the Tyson food label! Don't like a politician, vote em' out. Don't like a companies practices, don't give them your cash.

[nicholasstanko]

My point wasn't to defend illegal aliens. Not at all.

I was just saying that really no one really cares about this issue, despite what they may say. It's a ridiculous right wing, oddly patriotic wedge-issue and nothing else. Companies get employees who will work for substantially less with no benefits and in terrible conditions. Then consumers get cheaper goods and services as a result. Sure, it's morally questionable but who's complaining about that?

Even the "security" arguments against the practice don't make sense. Last time I checked, the terrorists who got into America did so legally.

If Republicans, or Democrats for that matter, were serious about this "problem," they'd press their rich, corporate donors to stop hiring illegal aliens and this would stop. I guarantee that people wouldn't stream over the border illegally if there wasn't a paycheck involved. But we all know that ain't gonna happen.

I just think the whole thing is funny. High comedy in fact. And W's solution is the best of all. Amnesty: illegals get to stay and keep working on the cheap; a massively appeasable solution for his corporate cronies and an entirely new base of voters to lie to. It's just perfect.



sad but true :(

[BlueCat]

Is it completely up to the Government, we have power also. Read this:
http://apmp.berkeley.edu/APMP/pubs/i9news/newangle040302.html

Do you really care about the issue? Don't buy anything with the Tyson food label! Don't like a politician, vote em' out. Don't like a companies practices, don't give them your cash.


Great post!

[Torog]

You know Torog your opinion does not mean a damn thing to me. You can spit your neocon bullshit all you want. It is just that bullshit.
You can't be happy letting me have my opinion and you yours. You can't be civil. Gentleman my ass. You always have some smart ass remark.

You are so clueless. You continually complain about liberals while supporting the Neoliberals and their wars. NEWSFLASH:They are both cut from the same cloth.

You think tacking a flag over your trailer door makes you are great American. You follow blindly without question. You don't know the corporations running our government or how they are tied into war. You have not even bothered to look have you? Do you even keep up with the lobbyist?
Have you read about Dyncorp, Unnocal, Halliburton, Lockheed, Brown and Root,Diebold?
DO you know who is running them or who benefits from their profit?
YOU can't possibly think that is not an important issue.

I am sick of trying to be civil to you. Every post I make you follow behind with the liberals are out to get us....well it is the neoliberals and you are helping them, so get it straight.

Facts are Bush does allow Hispanics to get their citizenship if they will fight for the USA. They are joining in large numbers and they are dying in large numbers. The immigration in this country is as high as it was during Ellis Island thanks to Bush. We don't have the resources to support them thanks to BUSH, and thanks to YOU.

Bush gives millions to start a head start program for 4 year olds in Iraq but cuts the funds for head start in his own country. I guess American 4 year old don't matter.
Do you loyalties lie with Iraq, Saudi, Israel or AMERICA? Its OK Americans don't matter.... all that matters is oil and selling arms.

You can call yourself a great American if it makes you feel better about yourself, but you are living in a fantasy world. Suffocate in that neoliberal box of yours Torog go ahead let them win. There's no fool like an old fool.

The fact that our country is run by a handful of corporations and the line between those corporations and our military gets more blurred each day alludes you.
As far as I am concerned if you support George Bush you are a traitor to your country and everything that it stands for.

You can't even admit when one of those assholes sells out his own countrymen, like Karl Rove...you said; "oh I think that is just a Dem plant story." The fucking traitor is caught, red handed in a lie even the CIA said he was told Plume was under cover. Keep kissing their ass, Torog, that's what a weak man would do. It takes a real man to stand up for his country. It takes a real man to go against the grain of the establishment. I think you have clearly established you are not up for the job.


You live in a paranoid state of mind, I have read you freeper posts..."oh no my uncle, cousin, whatever lives by a nuclear plant, I'm scared, how far will the fall out be" :eek:
You are so typical of the uneducated, paranoid hayseed, the rest of the world makes fun of. Your opinion really isn't worth much. If you are against one of my posts that is just a guarantee to me that I am on the right track.

I have tried to be patient with you in hopes you could step outside the box long enough to get a grip on what is happening to our country. I thought since you raised a level headed daughter you can't be all bad. I was going to one of hr websites even before I stated posting here.
I bet you did not raise her did you? That would explain a lot.

So you just wave your flag and pretend you are this great father and a great moral individual, while talking about controlling your children, and shooting immigrants that cross illegally. Continue to claim Christianity while calling all Saudi men weak individuals, or little men that can easily be beat up. You are such a fine example of a Christian aren't you? Hypocrites like you are why I stopped going to church.

You can call yourself a great American if it makes you feel better about yourself, but you are living in a fantasy world. Suffocate in that neoliberal box of yours Torog go ahead let them win. There's no fool like an old fool.


You are just mad because, your little worship Torog plan did not work. We give you a few compliments about being a man for apologizing and it goes to your head. It was almost comical watching you puff up..
You thought you would attack Hardon for his plant names and the women on the blog would all flock to you.

Help Help Torog save us from the nasty words

Torog------------------------------------------>white horse--------------------------------------------------->

Please Torog come save us poor weak women.

"There's no need to fear....Torog is here"!....
OH MY HERO...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
give me a break!

take some if that spare time of yours and instead of waiting by the mailbox for your welfare check go back to school.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4804.htm

http://www.reflector.com/news/content/shared/news/world/stories/0227_WAR_DEAD.html

http://www.unitedforpeace.org/article.php?id=1991
Howdy Blue Cat,

Well daggum..I'm glad that I know how ya really feel about me..lol.

You take the stands that you do,because it's all about hating Bush and the right-wing..now is not the time,when we are in the midst of a war,to try and bring down the country..but for some reason,you want to ..even if it means that the enemies of America and the Free World,succeed in killing many more innocent folks. I find your actions to be traitorous and contrary to American ideals of freedom and justice for all. I don't know about you..but 9/11/01,changed me..I'm sick and tired of excusing the actions of those opposed to freedom for all,I'm mad as hell and I don't think that America should take this crap anymore..it's time to teach all of our enemies a lesson..that they will never forget. Is it time to finally say..that this is about vengance ? I know that vengance is God's to mete out..but I also believe,that this is a just war,that Christians can fight..and if it be God's Will..we will win.

I'll have you know,that I did mostly raise my daughter by myself,her mother,was not very good at mothering,in fact,her mother was so bad at it,that I had to take my daughter and finish raising her,myself..I've been a single dad,for many years. It's my daughter,who lives near a nuclear plant and I'm not paranoid to worry about her safety,in that regard..that plant is vulnerable to hurricane and tornadic damage,and all nuclear plants,are potential terrorist targets.

I have absolutley no desire for anyone to 'worship' me..that ain't why I'm here,I'm here to counter the Left and I don't expect to make any friends because of that. I have changed since the posts that you read at FR,I try not to be so demeaning to other folks,I'd rather git them to open up and share their thought and opinions,than shut them down with insults,which is the path that you are taking in regards to me,as I expected that you would,because such,is the wont of a liberal mind-set.

You damage what credibility that you have,when you continue to call me an 'ignorant,uneducated,hay-seed'..I may not have as much education as you,but at least I got the common sense to respond to the attack on America,as a citizen/soldier..and not as a politically-correct drone of failed policies..which got us to where we are now,thanx to the pro-arab,anti-Israel stance,of the Clinton's.

The Democratic party,is where it's at today,because liberals like you,don't give a dang about anyone else's opinion..especially if they live in fly-over country. I wish that I could be on the front-lines in Iraq,but I can't..I'd rather be there,fighting the terrorists,than argueing with terrorist appeasers,such as yourself.

Have a good one ...

[BlueCat]

Not reading it, I skimmed the first few lines Torog...
Well daggum..I'm glad that I know how ya really feel about me..lol.

You take the stands that you do,because it's all about hating Bush and the right-wing

YOu are still making this a dem vs. gop thing it is not...you aren't smart enough to see that. same old crap,clinton,liberals,blablabla

I have seen your true colors. Read enough of your posts at the free republic to know what you are really about. You are a neoliberal.

You are not a good person.
You are a waste of good time....
You are the kind of creep I avoid....
I am not going to post your personal life but I have done some digging.
you lie....

I'll respect your rights and just not read a thread if I see it is yours.
My mother told me not to talk to creeps like you.
Have a good one...

[Torog]

Not reading it, I skimmed the first few lines Torog...
Well daggum..I'm glad that I know how ya really feel about me..lol.

You take the stands that you do,because it's all about hating Bush and the right-wing

YOu are still making this a dem vs. gop thing it is not...you aren't smart enough to see that. same old crap,clinton,liberals,blablabla

I have seen your true colors. Read enough of your posts at the free republic to know what you are really about. You are a neoliberal.

You are not a good person.
You are a waste of good time....
You are the kind of creep I avoid....
I am not going to post your personal life but I have done some digging.
you lie....

I'll respect your rights and just not read a thread if I see it is yours.
My mother told me not to talk to creeps like you.
Have a good one...
Howdy Blue Cat,

My mother told me not to marry a woman like you..so I reckon that makes us even.

I cannot count,the number of times that liberals have given up argueing with me and called me a liberal..lol. Quiting..is the sure sign of a liberal mind-set,and despite all of your objections to the contrary, that there is no such thing as a liberal mind-set and a conservative mind-set,as well as other types of mind-sets..it just so happens that liberal mind-sets are the greatest problem that America faces culturally..at this time.

Congratulations ! You've just made it to the very long list of liberals who have given up trying to defeat me..and whom never will..and as I told you earlier..you cannot judge me accurately based on my posts at FR,my attitude has changed alot since then,and I always knew that I was preaching to the 'choir'. I am somewhat curious,as to any other areas of my life,outside FR,that you've investigated..you could send me an email letting me know just what exactly,you've found out about me,that makes me a 'neo-liberal' .

Have a good one....

[amsterdam]

Liberalism: The haunting fear someone,somewhere,can help themselves.

[BlueCat]

not a liberal torog A NEOLIBERAL...maybe you should look it up. Maybe you both should look up the term...

this is a good thesis paper on it. I doubt seriously you will take the time to read it but I will provide it for you non the less.

http://www.econ.usyd.edu.au/wos/worksite/lafer.html

[amsterdam]

liberalism is dying in this country,its outdated.thats why liberals cant win an election.the majority of america view liberal dems as cowards with no ideas,no plans and no solutions.

[BlueCat]

hahahaha heres your hero....

Hours after Bill O'Reilly accused her of a multimillion dollar shakedown attempt, a female Fox News producer fired back at the TV star today, filing a lawsuit claiming that he subjected her to repeated instances of sexual harassment and spoke often, and explicitly, to her about phone sex, vibrators, threesomes, masturbation, the loss of his virginity, and sexual fantasies.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1013043mackris1.html


and then there is the soft porn he writes....but you have probably already read it...

Stripping off her bathing-suit, she walked into the huge shower. She pulled the lime green curtain across the entrance and then set the water for a tepid 75-degrees. The spray felt great against her skin as she ducked her head underneath the nozzle. Closing her eyes she concentrated on the tingling sensation of water flowing against her body. Suddenly another sensation entered, Ashley felt two large hands wrap themselves around her breasts and hot breathe on the back of her neck. She opened her eyes wide and giggled, "I thought you drowned out there snorkel man."

Tommy O'Malley was naked and at attention. "Drowning is not an option", he said, "unless of course you beg me to perform unnatural acts â?? right here in this shower."

Excerpt from: Those Who Trespass by Bill Oâ??Reilly

Wow those Neocons sure know how to respect women!
BIRDS OF A FEATHER flock together....

[amsterdam]

o'reilly is a registered independent?

i dont like that guy anyway.

its cute hearing a left winger talk about sexual escapades?can you say impeached?or the rape of hillary by billy to produce chelsea?

[BlueCat]

or the rape of hillary by billy to produce chelsea?

Hey Hamster shit how about a link to your lies? Don't have one do ya my little
gun-toting felon...

[amsterdam]

i didnt believe it either.its in the new book "The Truth About Hillary"

gun toting felons rock.

[BlueCat]

If you don't beleive it Amsterdam then why would you spread it around? Just to be cute? I just don't get you. :rolleyes:
but I do think you have potentcial....you just have to pull your nose out of Torog ass...